Jeeeeeesus Christ! What did happen during the night?!?!?!? From 7400 to 10 350 on Bitstamp (10 540 on coinbase)!!! This is the greatest pump in less than 12 hours in the history of Bitcoin (at least for the last years). Back to bed now (fingers crossed for 15K after I wake up). LOL
EU/UK were missing in action (mostly). major factor? |
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Citation begins:
These people will never understand crypto. BTC feeds all the other cryptos, disconnecting from that would kill 99% of other cryptos.You can't eat BTC's gains and not take it's losses.
citation ends.
i dont'agree.
emancipation is not disconnection.
but who has said that different markets should be interconnected all the time being ?
that they emit synchronously crying and sobbing ?
why apple and general motors share prices do not vary strictly in parallel ?
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Waves continues to crash - no surprise! Sasha's attempt to pump the price by buying up coins clearly failed, but what does he care about such unethical market manipulation - he took millions of dollars off a mass of suckers, and, according to others, behaved in a very shady way in the past.
Whether Waves succeeds or fails, Sasha is a winner - this isn't how free markets are meant to work!
this explanation could be the correct one: https://www.coindesk.com/trump-administration-popped-2017-bitcoin-bubble-ex-cftc-chair-sayslogical conclusion for people is: emancipate from BTC. there is at least some tendancy for that presently. |
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Waves continues to crash - no surprise! Sasha's attempt to pump the price by buying up coins clearly failed, but what does he care about such unethical market manipulation - he took millions of dollars off a mass of suckers, and, according to others, behaved in a very shady way in the past.
Whether Waves succeeds or fails, Sasha is a winner - this isn't how free markets are meant to work!
this explanation could be the correct one: https://www.coindesk.com/trump-administration-popped-2017-bitcoin-bubble-ex-cftc-chair-says |
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tried for a small amount the usd-n (neutrino), the stablecoin of waves presently in alpha.
the market exists in DEX, but is not active presently.
beta begins on 25 october;
not so evident for the newbie, as generally the new experiences.
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what is new with the transfers ?
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In a way it's almost a relief...no more wondering. this declaration was made at G20: citation begins (last phrase): In the report requested by the G7 finance ministers and central bank governors, the task force confirmed that the group of the seven wealthiest nations would not allow any global stablecoin to launch without addressing related challenges and risks. citation ends. conclusion: the wealthiest nations will not let the less wealthy ones escape in such a process. |
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Why is waves so low?
what do you mean low prices if yes about the price it does not matter because as it sometimes goes up sometimes down and now the waves are below the price but for their volume is still good and many people are still investing here, just be patient one day I am sure if the waves prices will rise again The up and down movement is just normal in crypto trading. However, my main concern is that most of the waves assets are not doing good and almost all of them are not gaining any attention from the trading community. Is there any way to combat the dying waves assets? Honestly, only waves has decent value in the market while its assets created under their network has very little chance of making it good in crypto. Yes, I agree that their assets do look bad and I am worried about all of that because they are afraid it will affect the wave itself and I notice that there may be too many garbage assets here so maybe the team should be more aware of the coin makers because for the good of this project too Is there a place where one can see how much funds the dev team still have left? It should be a lot as the token sale was during the good old days. Or is the funding information kept a secret? waves is a private company.. |
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I have two calculations here:
1. 80 cents was original projected bottom before VST and inflation changes
2. Valuation with 1 billion VST that is merged with Waves in 2021 at 80 sents is 1.1 max supply x0.8 = $880 million
3. With new inflation changes most users will stake their waves and only trade with dividends, so of this 1.1 billion supply only 1.03 is active when dividends from stakes in waves are used for trading (4 million yearly inflation of tokens) instead of main supply
4. In this scenario, waves can go down to $0.08 inorder to account for VST 1 billion extra supply
Calculation two does not include VST and the reason for this is because there are two articles from waves team,1 with VST and Waves merger into 1 native token in 2021, and another article that says this will not happen
Scenario two, is much more bullish:
1. Because of new inflation changes the supply of waves has decreased from 100 million to 4 million if most users stake their share and only trade with dividends. This represents a 96% overnight supply deflation and will result in advance from $0.8 to $20 to adjust for this change on a year on year basis
2. Original bottom was projected at $0.8 at 100 million supply, so technically coin is now in - x30 overshoot due to inflation changes and the equivalent bottom at 4 million active supply is $20 so this is the first corrective target for waves
3. Because $0.8/$20 is the old and new equivalent bottom, whereas a x30 price increase was projected based on other valuation metrics that was conducted on waves, it means that price will go from $20 x30 which is $600.
4. The old projected wave 5 top was $68 and this is now $1800 ($6.8 billion valuation on 100m supply vs $1800 valuation on 4 million supply)
I think both calculations are measured in extremes and that the truth may be derived from a range between $0.1 to $1800. By factor, it is x10 from projected bottom and x2000 from projected top, so fair value may be at x100 and x200 which is $10 as of 2019-10-15.
so everything is open.. |
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thank you for response.
citation begins
"The $VST token is to be used in Waves Enterprise network"
citation ends.
VST still in freefall today at 0.11 usd.
so it should not be easy to sell new VST tokens to arriving enterprises.
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nobody speaks about VST price who is really sinking.
Now that you mentioned it, I just checked its chart with VST/WAVES trading pair and boy, oh boy, it plummeted down to a very very low price (very near to its lowest price point last July 26, 2019). I honestly don't know any real news about VST. Isn't this the one being airdropped to Waves holders last April 2019? After that, I can't find any useful information about it and there's a very high chance that this is the reason why its price is falling off the cliff. VST just became an airdropped coin that is being traded without any progress lined up for it. If someone can shed some light regarding this coin, feel free to chime in and provide some information.  Vostok brand has been sold. I recently saw the news, wasn't sure if it was posted here by Waves.support (didn't see any, so I'll share). Here's the Official FAQ for the complete details → Your questions about Waves Enterprise answered and they have their roadmap too ↓ ................. So I think, brand being sold and trading issues may have affected the price. OK vostok brand has been sold. it uses waves tech for private and public administrations' uses, so waves tech is not useful for these enterprises ?? such price ends hopes to sell more coins, as we are well under initial emission price. VST was supposed to be sold up to 1MM coins for other companies, is it finished by the brand sale? or waves enterprises replaces it completely? what was the reason to change completely the plans? what is sure, is that VST now looks "finished". and for me the "switch" has not been completely explained, was it only a change in a disparate pair of shoes? or a change in the colour of the shoes? |
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nobody speaks about VST price who is really sinking.
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how much time to get a transaction confirmed ?
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i hope that thriftyminnow will update his guide soon.
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