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1401  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: August 03, 2016, 07:07:30 AM
   For now my plan is to save all coins I get, with occasional sport betting. I don't see anything else enough safe for my taste. People are losing money on gambling, trading, some scams. I think best for me is to just keep coins I earn on internet. Only saving on long run seems like good and safe plan to get rich one day, if price really grow high like many people here think it will. For now I trust them enough to save and earn from day to day, and to invest my time into bitcoins.
   Maybe I will change my mind one day about all this, I'm new with all this and I feel like some kid in shop for toys. I need tl learn much more about bitcoins.
1402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: August 02, 2016, 09:43:30 PM
   I place my first bet on sport with bitcoins. Until now I gambled at bet houses around the town, this is first time I`m doing it online. It was very interesting, I invested coins I gathered on faucets and some works that I found around the internet.
   Simple slip with 3 games, I think odds are great for this games and we will see how lucky I will be for the first time.

Celtic FC - FC Astana Match Winner: Celtic FC 1.63
Anderlecht - Rostov FK Match Winner: Anderlecht 1.97
Hapoel Be`er Sheva - Olympiacos Match Winner: Olympiacos 2.01

Total stake 2.00 To return 12.90
1403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Grow my Bitcoins. on: August 02, 2016, 07:53:49 PM
   I plan to save my coins, that is my way of investing. I will try to gather as much as I can, and earn with various jobs here on forum and internet site's. As I saw that is best way to earn some money with minimum risk. Everything else look like is made for losing our coin, I jus have plan to play sports book, that is what I do for years but with no more then 1 $ per slip, I'm not greedy and its plan for slowly growing coins with just risking small amounts of my coin stash.
1404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: LUCK!!! :) How does it feels? on: August 02, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
   I never won big money, but even for little ones I feel very happy. I thought about how does it feel when someone win huge money. Must be incredible feeling to win thousands and millions in couple hands of poker, or sportbetting. I cant even imagine how would I feel just to wait it to happen , and win after that.
   Probably feeling can't be described with words, and that is the feeling that make others to go in casino again and again, in tryingto feel same thing again.
1405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Danger when buying/selling BTC in person on: August 02, 2016, 01:27:01 PM
   Good thing that he could report it, and police arrested robbers. It's a good sign that government react on this kind of things, I'm not sure would police do something in my country.
   There is always risk when someone work with huge amounts. I think with 28 k he could pay someone to protect him, or he could pay for some extra protection on internet, but people wish to save lest cent. Sometimes its good to sacrifice some money, to not lose everything. People need to be careful, there will always be evil and bad people.
1406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Most Valuable Right Now? on: August 02, 2016, 10:17:12 AM
   As I know two Tesla car's were sold for bitcoins. That was most expensive and I think there is no other thing that can come close to that for now.
  Miner equipment is not cheap, I noticed miners are more expensive each year. You can find some lap tops and computers that cost more then 1000 $.
  That is how much I know about expensive things for bitcoins.
1407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite game (gambling) on: August 01, 2016, 08:34:17 PM
   From all this games, poker is the game I like to play. Its cause in poker there is everything needed for good game, thinking, planning, strategy, bravery, poker face. Its game where skills can play much bigger roll then luck, but also there is moments of luck. People who play poker knows about it, we all had same situation in poker winning from impossible hand, and losing with two aces.
   I like to play other games, but just for fun and mostly with minimum bet. I think other games ask for big money, so we can double bets often. I don't have that money, so its fun with funny low amounts.
1408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cyrpto vs Fiat on: August 01, 2016, 07:12:00 PM
   There is no good explanation for your question, simply cause bitcoin can not be used for paying many things in real life. On other hand with bitcoin is much easier to work online, send and receive money, pay for something, or be paid for some work.
   This struggle between currencies will always be around us, bitcoin is something new and many old conservative people will not accept all this. New generations are coming, bitcoin need to survive and maybe for 20, 30 years can stand against fiat.
1409  Other / Archival / Re: how to earn bitcoin fast? on: August 01, 2016, 02:58:15 PM
   I would also like to know how to earn bitcoins fast, looks like for that we need to earn fiat money and buy bitcoins, with that to invest in something and only then to earn from that investment if its possible.
   For now I`m not ready to invest my personal money into bitcoins, I just don't feel safe. Fast earning is full of risks, I`m planning to do it for long time and slow. Patience is the key of the success, that my grandpa told me many times.
   Gambling looks like something you ask, its fast! But I`m not so good in that, so I plan to invest my coins one day into something much better.
1410  Economy / Economics / Re: What percentage of people on Earth will own Bitcoin by 2020 on: August 01, 2016, 06:58:24 AM
   2 - 5 % if bitcoin have some luck in next 3 years. 7.125 billion (2013) people live in this world, 1 % from that number is 71.125 million people.
Searching on internet about bitcoin users, I found one nice article, this is one interesting part:

   "More than 25 million addresses have been referenced in those 31 million transactions. The total number of addresses, of course, gives an upper limit for the number of possible bitcoin users. Naturally, not every address ever referenced is still in use. In fact, it turns out that less than 10 percent actually have any bitcoins in – fewer than 2.5 million.
So that means an absolute maximum of around 2.5 million people own bitcoins right now. "

Looks like even 1 % will be hard to achieve. Bitcoin need better promotion as I see, many people still don't know nothing about bitcoins, and other internet currencies.
1411  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to sell? Or to buy? on: July 31, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
   Its your money, do what you think its best for you. In the end, risk is yours, profit and loss are also yours. I know that I will keep my little stash and I will try to earn more. I don't think about selling or buying bitcoins in next 6 months, just gathering and gambling with micro amounts.
   After hours of reading what people said here on forum, I presume that keeping is best thing I can do. Longer period of waiting, means possible higher profit. I will try that way, trading is for people who are rich.
1412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: July 31, 2016, 12:39:55 PM
   Maybe you are right, people lose money in the long run. I gamble over 5 years, not active, I can say that I like to play on sport results every week, other games from time to time, and I`m not in loss. Gambling relaxes me, I stop to think about other things in life, so I like to place bets and wait results, its good thing for free time.
   I don't think I can earn big money on gambling, I don't invest enough for that. People who wish to earn they invest everything they have, for that risk is too big. That's why people lose money, too big hopes.
1413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: July 31, 2016, 09:17:46 AM
   Not bad strategy, I can say that you really play like someone who wish to play for long, and to cut loses as much as its possible. With that kind of game you can play longer and in the end to not earn much, but also you cant lose much. If I can guess you didn't made profit on gambling, you won same money you lost, you are around zero.
   For good profit in gambling you need to know to play aggressive. And that is only way to make some money, for that you need to sit to play with a lot. Or to have extremely big luck with betting on high odds with small bankroll. If you don't win, money you have will melt in minutes.
1414  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: July 31, 2016, 05:29:45 AM
   Bellow 10 %, or better to say 0 dollars. I saw threads about people who made money just with working and smart investments from earned coins. That is also my plan, to try to make money without putting my money into this.
   I have free time, some little knowledge and big wish to make something from this, for now I slowly gather coins on several places, and I'm satisfied with my start. I'm new in all this, and for now I don't have plans for investing, but that can change in the future if I see some good opportunity.
1415  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: July 31, 2016, 02:24:22 AM
   I don't have enough coins for spending, but when I gather coins onoy place where I can spend them is online. For now there any store or shop that accepts bitcoins in my country, I guess I will need to wait years to pass for that to happen.
   I thought about I to be first in that, but I don't have enough money to start any business. If I start something in the future, I will try to do more about promoting bitcoin currency around me. For now that is just a dream, without money I can't do much.
1416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Didn't know I can loss all without winning anything on: July 30, 2016, 09:45:24 PM
   You didn't lose much, a bit more then 10 bucks. I don't think you would win on some other game as you said, when you have a bad night nothing can help.
   I didn't play slots in bitcoin casinos, after reading your comments here I think I will definitely skip that game. For now I play dices and its interesting game, but even there I saw people lose big money in couple throws.
   Don't go back in that casino with more money, forget everything for today, and tomorrow try some other game and casino.
1417  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: July 30, 2016, 05:45:39 PM
   Governments & bitcoins, future will be interesting. Many countries still waiting with laws about bitcoins, probably they still don't know how to tax it, or to control it. We still didn't see any real moves in that direction, looks like they still investigating and monitoring situation.
   How they enter into bitcoins, that will define bitcoin in the future. Some will give support, some will try to ban it, in both ways people will use it as long as they have some profit from bitcoins.
   Can we expect governments to unite and make some new coin?
Honestly almost all people here dont want to involve in government because they want to be anonymous or they dont want to have a tax while they are transacting bitcoin to another wallet..

   Dear friend, nobody will ask as what we wish. That is government, nobody asked me do I wish ID, to pay tax for house, for car, for many other things. They will create a law and if someone doesn't listen they will arrest that person.
   People who doesn't obey are criminals, no matter if its good or bad law. Same will be with bitcoins, and cause of that I said future will be interesting, different governments will create different laws. Its not gonna be same for everyone, like its not now.
1418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: July 30, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
   Quitting gambling for good is only possible if you really wish to quit. If someone really wish something he will do it, he will find a way how to do it. Talking about this unnecessary, cause people who really wish doesn't talk about it, they just do it. Others who talk about it to everyone, deep inside they just wait to go to casino and put few bets.
   I wish luck to everyone who wish to quit gambling, be strong and don't think about gambling, find something else to think about it, something nicer and everything will be good.
1419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: July 30, 2016, 11:08:08 AM
   Hate is strong word, some people don't like bitcoin is more accurate. Why would anyone hate any currency? People have different tastes and people like different things, and that is like that from beginning of the world, and it will stay like that until the end of the world.
   This topic is more about human nature then about bitcoins. Cause every single thing in this world have people who like it, and people who dislike it. I learned to live with that, we just need to do what we feel its right and everything will be alright. There will always be two sides on the coin!
1420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: July 30, 2016, 10:23:05 AM
   I get a headache from reading all this comments. I don't know what most of you thinking about when we say word INVESTMENT. I didn't saw 100 % safe investment in my life, everything is a risk and I saw people lose big money on 99 % chance to win! What we can say after that?
   Don't be afraid to lose, that is all what is important. Cause even if you lose all your money that is school, and we need to pay for everything we learn. Smart people rise from ground and try again, other spent their life in desperation and regretting. Choice is on us, but if we don't try we have 0 chances to success.
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