1002 $ right now! New topics about reaching 1k finally are just popping up on the forum, people are very excited, this is what we have been waiting for. The ones who have patience are always rewarded in the end, and all bitcoin workers are now a little richer (and some much more then little).
   I see people already have next target, my recommendations are to stay patience, that will eventually come, let's hold this for a while first.

"crazyivan from bitcointalk described genesis-mining best:

    Its not a scam in a classic way where they will run away with your money, no, they re 100% legit and they will provide everything they state. The only problem is one cannot make money, their products re simply that bad. By investing in genesis-mining all you do is provide them an interest free loan for them to expand their farms and that is all."

   CrazyIvan from bitcointalk gave us good explanation what is going on in genesis mining company. I never tried investing in online mining sites, after I saw here what kind of experience people from here have on this sites, I said to myself that I will not try that ever.
   More I read about them, more sure I`m in my decision about them. I will not give them my hard earned money just like that, and to wait all my life them to return that same money too me. CrazyIvan described them, they cannot make money, they are just collecting money from everyone. I dont understand how they survived so much, who are the people that invest in this sites and wait for ROI that will never come.
   

   Pooya87 made a good point here, why people are greedy? And why people are anxious to get to 1000 so fast?
   You are right about glass metaphor, this is not that situation cause we dont know is it a glass, bottle, or some barrel. We dont know where is half, when will be full. Waiting is only way we to find out possibilities of bitcoin.
  

   First I couldnt believe, then I have read all the comments, and I still cant believe in this fees. This must be some kind of manipulation like Cjmols mentioned on the beginning of this discussion.


   I`m glad that some miners are good people, and if they can return this accidental fees its good explanation for couple cases, but what is with other similar cases? Can they manipulate system in that way? If they can that is very serious matter. I didnt see any logical answer why fees are so high for this people.

   Can this happen to anyone? I mean is there some wallet where this is impossible to happen?

   This is the most important part, cheaper then with dollars and automatically that means cheaper then on most other places. I like to buy quality stuff, and cause I dont have big salary I need to save and wait for shopping nights, sales to buy something cheaper.
   You have a great idea here, this can popularize bitcoin as currency. People will convert fiat into bitcoins if they can save money in that process.
   You need to draw up a realistic business plan, remember that profit is what youre left with after paying for everything.

   Another conspiracy theory if you ask me, what will happen if big players enter in bitcoin (if they didnt already). Why everyone assume that big fiat players wish to destroy bitcoin, they can also earn from bitcoin and have other advantages.
   To not go off topic, nothing is strong enough to withstand coordinated and well planed attack!!! That is it, you can talk more if you wish but there is no point for that.
   

   We just speculating here, I wish everyone to take a look at this topic:
"We got hacked" coming!  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1732340.0
   I see connection here, hacks are reason why price is dropping. In topic above you can find out that after first big rise MtGox was hacked, and after other spikes that bitcoin price had same thing happened. Interesting fact for me is how many bitcoins were stolen in every hack. Mt Gox lost 744,408 BTC,  119,756 BTC stolen from Bitfinex, big difference in amount of coins and in price in dollars. Looks like drop depends from amount of stolen bitcoins. Exchanges now doesnt have so many coins in wallets like MtGox had.
   To be short, if there is no hack maybe price can stay high. If exchange sites are better protected now, and if they have some kind insurance (bitfinex recovered fast after hack) maybe there will be no drop.

   I dont gamble with my profit, that is greediness, when ever I made a profit and continue to gamble for even more I lost all in the end. Thats why I like sports, I place always minimal bet on that, I make one slip or two and that is my gambling now, I`m enjoy in watching games and this just makes watching more interesting.
   Who gamble with profit will likely lose all in the end, its the nature of gambling. Bankroll starts to go up, like a line, but in one moment that drops hard on zero. In moments like that one I always think how the game is rigged, and I`m just one person in the sea of others who had same destiny with some gambling games.
   Now I dont play lucky based games, I learned my lesson and I hope this topic can help others to avoid big loses on lucky based games.

  
   I can find a logic, when bitcoin is going up people are very active on exchanges, and in this times there is a lot of bitcoins circulating on their trading platform. I save my bitcoins, but in case I wish to trade with them I need to deposit, its how its working. When Mt.gox happened I didnt know about bitcoins (btc price was going up), this year we had Bitfinex ( price went almost double from last year), and looks like every now and then when price is going up hackers rob some exchange site.


   Good advice, I quoted just in case. We never know when will it happen, therefore caution is strongly advised.


Edit: Nice explanation Frenky. I like to read your comments, you have good observation and your comments are simple for understanding, even for me .

   Please refrain from using bad words! Law made by whom? You dont see the point apparently, and I feel sid cause you are blind, you simply cant connect few dots and make whole picture. Yea I`m the monkey that live in third world country and you are civilized person from some nice country, I`m sure you would vote for Hitler, and for Trump (if you are from US).
   Learn a bit around people, talk with them. Not just with your own class, try to expand your conscience. If this is too hard for you to understand all this, try to make it simple: "Shit is the shit, no matter how will you packe that shit, in the end taste in the mouth is the same, shitty!"


   
   What you can smell is one thing, but what you wrote here is not nice. Instead of providing decent explanation, with arguments, you just continue to insult other people. What is making you so nervous, tell us, maybe we can help you.

Edit:  Conditions where this "illegals" live are under any dignity. Why its like that, think about it. I dont understand how you people dont have sympathy and compassion, while some people live in luxury others doesnt have water. Can you understand that?

   Names on voting list are there for a reason, someone put them there, corporations, illuminates, masons. They are making profit on us, and we are slaves for them.
   

   Trump talked about immigrants and building a wall on Mexican border, Hitler talked about Jewish people. Give people something to hate and they will unite in that hate, will we unite for something good?

   Read the manual when ever there is one around, here there is for everything. Its hard to find it in all this mess that spammers are creating, but I like challenges.
    I didnt have any problems, I'm very carful person and I'm trying to pay attention on tthingsngs around. I hope I will not have problems in future, problems always cause pain and I dont like that, I work on prevent.

   Therefore bitcoin is universal tool, and we can use bitcoin for different purposes. I also hold my bitcoins, many of us think it will rise, its just a question how much. Big whales are holders, they have bitcoins for trading, cashing out, but most of the coins will sit and wait couple thousand dollars mark, like I wait that just with my little amount.
    Sometimes most obvious answer is the right answer, there is no conspiracy theory behind every story.

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Edit: I'm withdrawing my application, while I was waiting for an answer from you I got accepted in another campaign. Keep up with good work Yahoo, I hope I will have opportunity to work with you again. Good luck and all the best.

   Anyone can become target, hackers can make big problems. Great that this exchanger plans to refund all stolen money, building trust is most important thing, I doubt this will have impact directly on bitcoin. We need to be feel safe, before every installation check twice where its from, dont instal everything on computer. Good antivirus, anti malware, check your computer from time to time and everything will be ok.

   I`m sure someone posted same article, cause I saw thread about this. http://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmourdoukoutas/2016/12/09/is-bitcoin-better-than-gold/#19664a357c14  "Bitcoin has been beating gold by a big margin so far this year." This is the best answer on this question, there is no doubt about that, even forbes confirm that in their article.
   Holding bitcoins is better then holding gold, with current potential bitcoin can touch the sky, gold will be where it was always on same on peoples bodies like finery, where it should be.

   There is no gambling without losing, the ones who win all the time are cheaters and scammers probably. I know personally people who live from sports betting, they are in sports everyday, almost like daily job without specific work time, they risk a lot and they hit couple slips where they get back invested and plus profit. I make couple bet slips per week, they have 15 each day, and every bet slip is + 10 euros, and some of those slips have 4 digits payout.

   What is with this topics about bitcoin death, this us third thread I see in couple days, and before that I didn't notice hem for months.
   Looks like when ever price is going up fast people start to tal about huge drop. I reject to believe in this kind of stories.

   You chosen lucky based games and in this games you need a lot of money if you plan to win and make profit.
   I suggest you sports, you can find a lot of informations about teams and games, that should make your choice easier.
   Poker is also good, cause there you can win with you skills and knowledge.
   This two games are better then lucky ones, you can start with small amount and if you are skilled you can make a lot.

   Yes I remember that article, look at them now, looks like they are one happy family. I think they will not have problems to explain their children what is bitcoin, that is their life. People have habits and that is why its hard for some people to give up on fiat, same is with kids they learn about fiat from start, bitcoin sounds strange even to older people. I have friends that thinks that they know everything, but when I mentioned bitcoin to them they didnt have a clue that something like that exist in this world.
   Now internet is making miracles, kids are more informed then I was in their age, they will find it on internet before someone tells them.