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8581  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Is Bitcoin Trading and Why It's risky? on: November 24, 2016, 11:49:41 AM
no risk - no profit  Wink 
Basiccaly risk and profit are directly proportional on trading and on trading we can manage the risk and we can manage the profit too,  everything depend on the system of trading that be made by the traders them selves. If the traders doesn't have it, the trading will become more high risk.
Yes, risk and profit are directly proportion, if you are taking much risk your percentage of profit increase, to me I think risk is involve in all kind of trading and there is not a sing  trading where no risk is involve.

If you want to make money you have to take risk, without facing it you cannot make money, in trading you can reduce your risk of making money if you have some good experience and skill of trading.
All investments do really have risk and trading is not excluded on that because its already an investment which you will definitely put up money to gain money because if you don't put risk on it  you will not earn something same as you mentioned too. Experience does really matter to be profitable on trading  and which really helps to lessen to risk compared on trading blindly.
8582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 23, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
One stops gambling when they don’t have money anymore. Me, I stop gambling when I realized it is not me. I am not the type of person who will risk my hard earned money just by luck. I tried it still, but on the second time I managed to stop because I realized it is not me. I realized there are still other ways to improve my life and to save money. If you don't have enough money in your pocket better to stop before your bet something that will ruin your life.
You will not know when to stop when you do not have a good plan to stop. You are right, you will only stop when you bankroll is wipe out and that's common to us gamblers who does not have enough bankroll to gamble. We mostly rely on our luck and we just set up a new bankroll on a daily basis if we play daily.

That is our mindset , we tend to keep on playing and gambling if we still have something in our pockets, wallets , bank accounts and even from our parents. But if you will experience to have nothing then for sure that is the best reason to know that you really must stop. Because how can you sustain your addiction if you don't have something.

That's why we have to learn our self control which many gamblers doesn't have that skills/attitude. Well for some of those people who experienced their downfall in gambling are the ones who learned to stop learn from them.

when to stop gambling? much better to stop as early as now. there's no such thing as  limits. don't wait till you run out of anything. I'd been there before. I even almost lost my family. so quit as early as now.  Smiley

There's no problem if you wanted to stop now it is just going to depend on how gambling really affects your life. So if that is severe and your life is being wrecked for the whole time by gambling because of your negligence and not capable of controlling your own emotion. And your situation is really that severe so you must really stop as early as today.
If you are a sensible person you would really not tend to let that thing happen to you and for sure you will stop eventually on gambling because you already know on what would happen on the long run. We could really sense it when we do play gambling if we keep losing at the first place then stop and don't intend to play again. This way would really save you up.
8583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Biggest Loss Ever. on: November 23, 2016, 02:20:57 PM
Mine is 0.1 bitcoin in a split second, I played in one dice site, i planned to bet 0.01 but accidentally press the max button and it directly bet all of my bankroll, the other time was, i bet 0.1 in sport betting during the match, and in the last minute i add my bet and in that same minute the opponent score a goal, then i lost all my bet
Sad to hear that kind of situation because I do know the feeling of this kind of scenario on which accidents on betting do really happen sometimes because of our carelessness which really leads to more lose.I do also bet on dice sites and  I accidentally press the max bet and didn't notice it and I realize already when it was already rolling and the set odds are 20x multiplier which is really a total lose.
8584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will ZECD and LSK goinf to pump again? on: November 23, 2016, 01:42:29 PM
i am going to leave you some advice, it is more like take it or leave it Smiley

- stop trading on Yobit, it is a bad exchange with bad support, dead wallets, no volume and fake volume which is worse. and many other problems.

- learn what stop loss means. and try to use it when you buy something.

- try to buy in a dip not when price is falling.

- and to be specific to your question, it is hard to say if ZECD or LISK will go up or not but my guess is that they are not because of two reasons: people are not interested in them to buy and also bitcoin price has been rising which creates a dump situation in altcoin markets.
This is the best advice and these things im also gonna say too. Trading on yobit is not bad at all as long you didn't choose the wrong altcoin because for sure you will lose those money you invest on that particular coin.If you bought a coin on decreasing state then for sure you will wait  a long time to recover your loss unless if the coin has a good potential to rise up on the future but if not then say goodbye to your money and hold those dead coins on your wallet.
8585  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 23, 2016, 12:26:35 PM
If a person is acquiring an exceptional skills on crypto or in cyberworld, 1 bitcoin is just a piece of crap to earn. The best example here is the ICO or crowdfunding, if you have some brilliant idea about crypto, then do some coin and present to all what is specification of it.  Then let people fund your works and earn some bucks easily. I hoped acquired that knowledge too. Grin

Yes this skills would really give you decent amounts of money hence this kind of skills is really an edge to everybody. If you are a  developer or creator a certain coin which  do have unique features compared to other coins then maybe  you could able to get big investors then 1 to 2 btc is like a dust actually but sadly we dont have these kind of skills. We are hoping the same thing too. Smiley

Why not just work in real life if you do have those type of skills. I knew some people who are earning even as high as 5 bitcoins monthly converted to dollar. What they are doing is they do have their regular full time job mostly pays them 2 bitcoins monthly. And upon having some sidelines or part time jobs they are working also as freelance and that makes add to make it 5 bitcoins but that is only for project based.
If i do have kind of skills i will sure work offline and online  because i  know that earning bitcoin or fiat money will be decent enough.You are right salary would really be big compare to those ordinary jobs which is not related to programming and developing.Earning 2 bitcoins is really possible but for those people only have skills but for those people have only average skills we should not let our selves down because theres a lot of oppotunities to make money.

You just need proper time management for it. So if you are working for offline or in a company and you are able to earn decent fiat for your salary. Because working at the same time is not that an easy thing, but if you do have excellent time management skills then for every single hour that you work will help you to reach the goal of 2 bitcoins per month.
Proper time management would be really needed if you are intending to do both jobs in online and in offline.Yes,its not really an easy thing to handle both because it really requires time and effort in able to earn on both world.I agree to those who said that programming and developing skills have the edge amongst others. In my situation now 1 btc is hard to earn even on 3 months but if you work offline its possible to get on 2 months.
8586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you play Dice with Autobet? on: November 23, 2016, 06:08:35 AM
Yes i do used auto bet, because if i am not using auto bet it will be boring to keep on clicking the button, when i used autobet the most important is to pay attention to your bankroll, although i used auto bet to play but i always keep my eyes on the game so i can know when to stop my bet, because i know that if i keep on using autobet i will be lose no matter what strategy i used, so i need to make it stop at one point to make profit
i was a big fan of dice game few years ago , but not for nowadays.

i have a very bad experience gamble on dice , used autobet with bankroll 200mbtc at primedice i set a low base bet with martingale in there. guess how long i can survive play dice with that autobet setting? less than 20minutes , since that time i hate to play a dice game.
Sad to hear about your loss man regarding on playing on dice sites.We really cant rely to much on some strategies that we do know in the past on which most gamblers  say about that like martingale and others stuffs because they wont work after all. 0.2 btc is already big bankroll but still it would wipe out if you suffer  long losing streaks even on the lowest bet amount.
8587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you play Dice with Autobet? on: November 22, 2016, 04:12:18 PM
Do you play dice manually, using autobet or third party bot?
If you play using built in autobet what features options you consider most important?
Real gamblers play dice manually. It's quite hard to say that you're a good gambler if you just use autobet and leave it running on your computer. I play dice manually but I do multiply my bets most of the time and change the multiplier when I want to.

I would say that the most important part of the autobet system is the "amount increase at lose by x%" because that determines how quickly would your bet go from, for say, 20 sats to 20000 sats. The multiplier should be calculated by these. The return when you win should recover your past losses. My base bet always depend on how much bankroll I have.
Im not really fan of  playing dice on autobets unless if  im in front of the pc then I usually set the odds,multipliers and number of rolls its still fine as long im awared on the results compared on  leaving it blindly because if theres a losing streak I can manually stop it and lessen the  loss amount. I do agree with you most  gamblers  do manual playing  compared on autobets it quiet risky for me.
8588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your dice strategy? on: November 22, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
Again and again, a new thread for dice strategy that will only lead to more spams on this forum. Didn't you try to do a search for this kind of discussion? There are too many similar threads, go over there and you will find what strategies shared by most people on this forum.
Correct, there are many kind of threads like this and OP should really search off rather than creating another thread regarding on playing dice sites.Back to topic I do play dice on normal ways theres no strategies attached because im done on those so called techniques mentioned by other  ex. maringale, reversed martingale, dice bots and scripts. They don't  work for me at all that's why I don't  bother already. Just play casually with 2x multiplier.
8589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: November 22, 2016, 03:21:38 PM
Gambling is not that bad, relax.

Fixed for you : "Gambling isn't that bad until you lose everything, betrayed/hated by your loved ones and become poor, so just relax." Roll Eyes

It is not even relaxing when we are experiencing these type of problems as we gamble. And besides before these incidents happen, let's just be serious to it that we need to stop the root cause for the sake of our love ones. There are a lot of families that quarreling because of one member of the family who are addicted in gambling.
Many would really got affected especially when you are the ones get addicted into gambling. YOur family loves you and they wont let that problems would gone worst in into you. If you love them  then its better  to leave gambling or quit it for the sake of  your family because if you continue such addiction may  unpleasant things that will surely happen  into you. If you don't like that to experience then its better to  quit gambling for good.
A family is called a family when they love each other, meaning they care for each other and they will advise to correct once mistake. If your problem is known to your family, for sure they will help you to quit.

You have to sacrifice something to them also that you will do your best for the good of all.

Yes that is what you call a true family. Especially when they really knew that gambling is your weakness and you can't help yourself but to keep on gambling. For you don't have a capacity to help yourself to quit for real. But if that is really too much and you are not even appreciating their help. And maybe they are the ones who will quit and give up for helping you and they will stop advising you.
When you do have  gambling addictions for sure you will keep this  problem into yourself only and  don't intend to tell anyone regarding on your  problem unless if you are  an  open person to your family then you will surely tell them  but if you are a secretive person you will keep that problem into yourself only and  don't intend to tell them but if  problem will arise then you have no choice but to tell them regarding your problem because your family would really help you.
8590  Economy / Gambling / Re: THE EASIEST BITCOIN GAMBLING SITE IN ALL TIME :) on: November 22, 2016, 02:42:00 PM
wtf?

are you a spin off of girlbtc?
Just a  pure copy of girlbtc.com and its a pure scam site which uses a free domain which really shows a total scam. As you backread you could able to see the owner of  girlbtc.com which he said  that site is a total scam and just trying to clone to scam someone. So better stay away from this.
8591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: November 22, 2016, 01:06:17 PM
Latest Picture of BTC Transactions Queue  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Should be sorted by next Thursday , maybe.  Tongue


 Cool

FYI:
BTC new advertising motto.
BTC , when you don't really give a shit if it gets there or not.
 Cheesy
I do agree with this  picture regarding on pending bitcoin  transactions which really shows that bitcoin is gaining popularity now we could already see it on that transactions itself because if bitcoin is dead theres no single transaction that you could able to see on blockchain. We can also see that bitcoins price is gradually increasing as of now it may even reach to $800 on year end and its possible. Bitcoin is not dead as of now infact its increasing its adoption.
8592  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 21, 2016, 05:39:13 PM
very strange question. but you have no even the minimum investment? participation in new ICO is good way for doubling your money. but you need at least some money, try it, i think it is interesting. a lot of good ico were at this mounth, also some new will soon.

ICO's are good way to earn but you may need to look for ICO's that has good developments and road map. So mostly, you will full time to join ICO's that are coming out in able to earn 1 bitcoin monthly. BUt I would say, that not all the time ICO's are good way to earn bitcoins. Because there are ICO's also that are just scams.

ICO can be a really fast way of investment and earning but unfortunate you wont find many legal ICO and most of the time your investment will end up in losing. but if you find the Good ICO, it will be best thing u have.
Finding Good ICO's is not an easy thing to do  because  there are  lots of  coins to choose from and  its hard to know  if its a  potential coin or not and some are just show offs  just to get  big investors. On my  side I wont  bother  to put money on  any ICO since ive been scammed  previously which is really a sad thing happened to me and I lost huge amounts of bitcoin  and that's was my mistake and ive learned from it. Better to focus on your skills and services.
8593  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud mining with Hashflare still profitable on: November 21, 2016, 05:16:47 PM
Still, Hashflare cloud mining ROI is not even close to profits users can achieve with other types of bitcoin investment methods.
I am talking about casino bankroll investments, they seem to be far more better option: after 3 months you can achieve return of 43% in the best case (BetKing investment)

Reference: http://bitcoingamblingreviews.com/bitcoin-gambling-investments-312/

We all know that there is no legit cloudmining. I learned from my mistakes on the past. Just dump it. It is better to gamble rather than invest on cloud mining site that run byy anonymous group of person that you didn't even know if they really have mining farm Grin
Yeah, my most precious lesson about cloud mining is that they can turn into a scam in anytime. I used to believe in Hashocean and after they ran away, I lost about 0.1BTC. Keep your head cold, be wise and deeply consider before you start making any investment in Cloud mining
I agree with you guys that  most cloud mining  are  just total  scams. Same here I don't have trsut  anymore on this kind of investments but  as we all know that hash nest  is  owned by bitmain which is a company do sell off  asic miners  and they would surely not intent to make a scam  with hashnest because if they do so the reputation  of  bitmain would be affected  . FOr OP, mining  on hashnest would really reach you  long  months to achieve ROI. Its  not profitable already.
8594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much time to 30 losses on a roll on: November 21, 2016, 05:08:23 PM
Losing 30 coinflips in a row is not 1 to a million,it is one to a much more bigger number.
Even if you will gamble your whole life, 24/7, and you will keep flipping the coin all over the day,I dont believe that you will ever hit the 30 losing streak or even hit the 25.

If it happend to you on a site,you are either the unluckiest person on earth,or the site is rigged.

2^10 is 1024, and lets us round it off to 1000. So 2^30 is about 1000^3 = roughly about 1billion. If you save that $1 for 1billion times, you can become one of the richest person in the world.
Everything can happen and we have our own luck, but to have 30 losing streak is like losing your whole amount of savings if you are really into it and you will not accept the defeat, unless you are just gambling a little satoshis.

I would only use martingale in sports betting if given a chance to use it because I feel to have more chance compared to dice.
And actually I have never seen anyone loosing huge number of bets on 50% and neither have I seen anyone posting any thread here about this. I think the only way this is possible is if you are betting on autoplay at very high speed almost like 100 bets per second and then playing it for weeks.
If you do play dice on 50% chance then 30x losing streak is unbelievable already because the longest streak I did know from my friend is only 20x, if you do suffer such streaks then you are the most  unlucky guys and for sure most people who will experience this  are those  who  have huge amounts  on their bankroll. If you  set  on high multiplier then 30x lose is a piece of cake.
8595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is the future of crypto, bitcoin is not. on: November 21, 2016, 04:53:10 PM
it is funny how nobody is talking about Ethereum these days, there are zero topics anywhere. most probably because of the constant decline that has caused a 23% fall in the past week and a 35% fall in the last month. and price is still going down.

this so called future of crypto is falling down while bitcoin has been rising consistently.

That is right. Most people are talking about the ZCash. It is more expensive than the bitcoin at present.

lol, you are making the same mistake again. and again and again.
this is the same as thousands of other altcoins before it and also thousands of other altcoins that will come after this.

none of them had anything to say and it is unlikely that we can see anything good out of altcoin market unless the altcoin developers start thinking about other things than money.

Even when it reach 7btc = 1zcash, I'm still now really seeing some interest to that coin. It would be a good thing to have some and then dump though but never had i had an interested to buy and keep them for life. Maybe because I always see it too good to be true. I still keep my faith to BTC.

The ZCash price is 0.39 bitcoin now. But the trading volume is very large. It is one of the top 3 volume.

The ZCash price is below 0.1 bitcoin now. It is around 0.085 or $75 at the moment. It might drop further.

very bad is down price from 0.39 donwn to until 0.085 bitcoin
i think this trading altcoin with price over 0.1bitcoin is very danger
because community not strong, and majority not accepted direct to exchange fiat money must need bitcoin
Its current price as of now is 0.07 on  poloniex which is already expected to be happen.I agree with you trading or investing on altcoins on 0.1 btc  each  is  very risky because  lots of people  usually do the same thing after a new coins is being launched which is  selling and  dumping all they can. Back to topic I don't think that ETH will surpass BTC  in  any way. No once could beat bitcoin hence its the father of all cryptos.
8596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: November 21, 2016, 04:35:53 PM
Gambling is not that bad, relax.

Fixed for you : "Gambling isn't that bad until you lose everything, betrayed/hated by your loved ones and become poor, so just relax." Roll Eyes

It is not even relaxing when we are experiencing these type of problems as we gamble. And besides before these incidents happen, let's just be serious to it that we need to stop the root cause for the sake of our love ones. There are a lot of families that quarreling because of one member of the family who are addicted in gambling.
Many would really got affected especially when you are the ones get addicted into gambling. YOur family loves you and they wont let that problems would gone worst in into you. If you love them  then its better  to leave gambling or quit it for the sake of  your family because if you continue such addiction may  unpleasant things that will surely happen  into you. If you don't like that to experience then its better to  quit gambling for good.
8597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: November 21, 2016, 04:04:15 PM
How can it be sin?

because gambling can lead to addiction, and when you have an addiction, you can do things that are bad such as being greedy, arrogant, and can justify any means in order to gamble like stealing, cheating etc. Gambling can lead to bad things.

I agree with you, gambling could only be called a sin when you already got addicted into it, as you said many bad things that would surely happen if you got addicted to it. Gambling game is just for entertainment but if you let it control you then its really hard to  get out that's why we should remember when we do gambling we must aware on the risk might happen, just be on yourself and control your greediness and have must strong self awareness.
8598  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What would be your recommendations when trading crypto? on: November 21, 2016, 03:32:20 PM
The only people that succeed in trading are skillful and professional trader...



An amateur becomes skillful with regular practice. You make mistakes, learn from them and keep trading till you make very few mistakes (if ever) then you will be called a professional.
That's true because we all started from newbie but because of the fact that we want to learn we work our way to learn trading..And for me, it's important that along the way you have to make sure that you correct your errors and not doing it again and again. By adjusting we are making ourselves matured in trading which could give us a good chance of success.

I agree, we are all started as a newbie back then and yet I am still a newbie when it comes to trading lol.  I think to be able to learn and master trading, we need to exert effort and put a lot of time in learning how to trade, there are some guide articles on how to trade but we cannot know how it works until we try them and observed.
Failing at the  first time is just normal especially when we are trading because all of us do start from  newbie on a certain thing which means we really commit loss and mistakes but we should really treat those as a stepping stone in order to learn and developed even more on the long run we should really exert effort because without it  then its all useless and you will suffer  loss always.
8599  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Have a Question Buy&sell BTC/ Paypal on: November 21, 2016, 02:18:48 PM
Hello.
I'm new member and l newbie in bitcoin trading.
I want to know about trading bitcoin with paypal .
Because I'm thinking I will selling bitcoin with paypal.
But Someone say

"It was banned by paypal"
"Buyer can pull money back."
"Can be traded"

I was not sure I wanted to ask.

Term of paypal , Purchase bitcoin By paying a paypal Is that correct or not?

Thank

Actually you could able to  trade  bitcoin  with  paypal   and  theres  no  restriction  on doing   it  but  the  big  problem  here  about these  kind of transactions  is the cashback feature  of  paypal  on  which   theres a  high  chance  that  you are being  scammed   by that  user , you already mentioned that. Better not to  trade  bitcoins  with  paypal  because  scammers are everywhere.
8600  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What kind of service/business would you create if you had funding and.... on: November 21, 2016, 01:04:04 PM
I think creating an exchanger online, or a trading platform could be profitable for the long run, i would create such programs if i have enough funds , but it need really good budget to start with

A casino is not a bad idea either  Grin
it was not a fresh idea, building a business such as a casino an exchange service etc it was fusty idea.
how about to build a department store/mall which there bitcoin only accepted as payment no fiat.
it could be a weapon to fight fiat Cheesy and make bitcoin become more popular.
In fact, there wasn't a business like that for now. It can become an excellent idea. But we must have realized the demand for Bitcoin, for now, it is impossible in my mind.
The exchange and casino ideas have become mainstream business idea right now.
 

The idea will maybe good but how could you sustain it and grab some success? Fundings is there but actually there so many business like that who's existing first and thats the reason why i can't truly trust to build up some business since we can lose money in instance if we fail, but if we look up for advisor and other great mind guys well maybe that can help us to gather success for the said business, and im pretty sure that many money will be thrown before success will achieved.
Well, people  do  have  aims and  choices  regarding  on what things  he  must supposed to  do  like  building a  business. I do agree with you   exchanges and gambling sites  are really  lots  as  of now  which  means if   you intend to  build  one then the competition  is  a lot  more  harder for you  because   people  would really  go to the  most reputable sites  rather  than goin on a new one but still if you  have ideas that  make your site  unique compare to others  then maybe  it could somehow   get  potential players  it really depends on  your  ideas  and strategies to  get people  on your site.
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