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641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: One seed, One casino game. Superstitious or Not? on: October 09, 2023, 07:58:34 PM
Recently, I've seen a gambler reply to the chat that he doesn't want to mess with his seed because it's only for the Plinko game.
Here's the story.

A RH (roll hunt) was about to happen that was funded by a big winner. The hunt requirement is hitting x3000 in Limbo and the payment on whoever hits it first is $2.
There's no required minimum bet because Original games can be played with 0 (zero) bet so anyone can join and if they hit it, share the winning result link and it will be verified.
He said, "I will not participate because I don't want to mess with my Plinko seed."

I was kind of curious about it so I want to ask the gamblers here.
Do you use the same method? One seed, one game?
Is this just some kind of a superstitious belief or is it really working?


Note: I am the type who jumps from one casino game to another using only one seed if I feel unlucky, that's why it somehow made me curious.
I would say that it is that something that do talks about on being superstitious because if there's a seed on which it could really make some good output or winning bets then expect that there would be seeds that would be giving out that sure loss. I dont see for it to be that could be done by any casinos out there and if there's one then there's no way on verifying those things whether its really there something shady behind it or not.
If there are people who do said about not touching up or changing up their seeds then it is really just that their own thinking and belief but there's no solid proof into that which it would really be that affecting your
gambling or roll results or whatever things you are involving into.The only thing that i do always appreciate is into those gamblers who do ran off with those kind of small time competitions which it doesnt really make some involvement with huge balance or completely free on hunting up something with those multipliers on which it is really just that giving up some chance into other small time gamblers who do have that ample time to spend up
their time with gambling with less or having no risks but having the chance on getting some peanut amounts. It is really that quite entertaining on hunting up something but of course dont expect something big though.
642  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are memecoins tarnishing the image of crypto? on: October 09, 2023, 06:51:07 PM
If those meme coins are scam coins, then they are clearly tarnishing the image of crypto. But we can’t tell that all meme coins are scams, some are even highly profitable than bitcoin but only for short term, as they are not advisable for long term hodling. However, with all the newbies coming in the market today, and majority of them are entering the market with greed, then it’s not really surprising for us that they will fall for these too good to be true meme coins and end up blaming the crypto market for their loss.
Not just meme coins, almost 99% of the crypto launched became scams or went to zero so it's not just limited to meme coin segment only but also NFT, BitcoinX, and tokens on various networks. But with meme coin especially Doge and Shiba lot of new people entered the market after the Bull run and Elon tweets which is the only thing that happened positively apart from people being taken advantage of by the shit coin projects as always.
honestly should differentiate between a true crypto and just some random shitcoin created out of thin air because otherwise it will just give unfair statistics like 99% of crypto are going to zero.
because if you judge from the fact that there are many innovative cryptocurrency out there like for example is the latest L2 also L0 its just really innovative that I don't think it will be hitting zero anytime soon.
moreover it will give clear definition between the difference of true crypto with shitcoins so that the image of crypto isn't tarnished.
regardless though the fact that there are so many shitcoin actively trying to find some greedy newbies to invest in their project is really making reputation of crypto in general bad its something we just know.
There would really be generalization when someone do have been able to experience that bitter things here on this space on which if ever they have stepped on a shitcoin and made out a devastation with their investment
then it would be normal that the blame would really be entirely be applied out on all coins in the market on which they would be having those thoughts that crypto is shit and its not a worth investment without even trying out to look deeper on how coins do really differentiate to each other which it would really be classified into those actual having utility coins/projects compared into those who do just simply mimic out or just trapping those newbie
investors on which it is really just that very common on here on this space. Tarnishing? Its been long time that it does create that kind of impression but doesnt mean that we would really be seeing on completely stop kind of production or creation of these shit projects. As long that money is really that circulating on this space then expect that there would really be that scam developers would really be continuing on making those shit projects and made out with those fake utilities on which hooking up those greedy investors to take in and invest with it and this is something that really be should look upon if you dont really like yourself on getting fucked up with your investment on which it is really that suggested or recommendable on always DYOR and dont rush up things when it comes to decision making.
643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you been threaten to stop gambling on: October 09, 2023, 05:57:09 PM

It's very crucial we don't get to the point where we have to be threatened to stop gambling before we stop the habit of unhealthy gambling, because it's only when it becomes unhealthy that their would be threats to stop if that's the only available means to explore and get you to stop, but then if you are gambling responsibly there will be no need to give you a threat so you could stop.

I have never been threatened to stop gambling because I don't make my gambling habit public and I aswell don't allow myself become addicted such that it becomes a problem for me or people around me, so I have never gotten to the point were I even had to stop or forced to but I do take break when ever I feel I'm already loosing so much so I don't have to chase losses.

It's really not a good thing to get to the point where you should be forced, basically try to control your habit and gamble responsibly for your good and that of people around you, don't spend more than 10% of your income on gambling so you don't get to become addicted while trying to make money off gambling and catch the fun and entertainment in the game.

Actually I don’t get any threaten in the gambling,because I don’t accept the words of my wife.But my friend had get big threaten by his wife like she will divorce,if he doesn’t stop the gambling.Because he had loss nearly 4000 dollars in a period of six months in the gambling,actually he doesn’t agree my point of the tactical gambling games.He try the many games with the random bet in the gambling.This was the biggest mistake made by my friend to get this bad situation.Actually he had quit the gambling because of their children and not for his wife.
Still the same whether you are quitting gambling for your kids or wife then it doesnt matter because in overall then this would really be for the sake of your family on which it would really be just that so normal that you would really be quitting for the better and you dont really like for your family to be broken on which it would really be just that a normal approach or sensible thing to be done. This is why it would really be just that important that you should really not make yourself comes into a point that you would really be threatened up by your wife on having some divorce because of your wrong decisions specially on dealing up with gambling.On the time that you are already compromising yourself when it comes to finances and then heavily affects your family with it then it would really be an another story because no women would really be lasting up if they would really be suffering those kind of problems specially if they do saw that her children is really that been affected due to lack of finances because of what you have done.

If you do really value your family then you should quit gambling for good because if you dont then you would really be losing everything not only your money but also your family and this is something that we dont really like to happen for the rest of our lives. In my case, then i dont really experience this kind of threat towards into my wife or family because i do play in moderation and never ever comes into a point that
im really that wasting all of my time and money towards gambling. Everything should be in balance and must be.
644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly on: October 07, 2023, 08:37:19 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Totally agree with this sentiment on which money would be always the driving force that will make you play gambling.It is very true that you might've that kind of thinking about playing for fun but we know that losing is never been entertaining or something that could make you happy on which it would rather make you feel that stressful at the same time on which you do really become that impulsive on which  I could say that it is really that a common reaction or on how you would really be dealing with gambling normally.We are just humans who do normally having that love on acquiring lots of money as easy as possible and this is why gambling do really check those check boxes about such thing.On the time that we do play gambling on first time then it is really that normal that you would be having those kind of intentions and impressions but once you do have that kind of experience specially it's inevitably bad the this is where self learning would kick in.

Somehow,there are indeed people who do really play just for fun despite of the spending or losses that they had committed out ad and it's just normal that those relative feelings could really be felt out along the way.The important thing here is just you do really know on when to stop and when to call it a day so that you won't really be making yourself on having no control and having no chance on being addicted through it.
645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is horse racing so unpopular here and a bit of extra feedback on: October 06, 2023, 01:43:08 AM
Let's keep this as simple as possible and let's not shitpost!

I see thousands of posts about football, a few hundred about other sports, and the rest are just almost non-existent. I'm a gambler myself but I stopped a while ago betting on soccer, all the Nxx in American sports and I'm just betting now and then on horse racing, from one penny at a time to some larger sums in case of a grade 1 event or festival.
But here it seems like there is little interest in this, is that because horse racing is just unpopular or is it because, well,.... the casinos that sponsor most signatures here are not promoting it? So no post quota to make?  Grin My old local gambling forum that covered this is also near death, I'm sitting in the sun 8 hours a day boring myself to death, so here comes feedback next part :

- Do you honestly think running a prediction game (run with my own funds) would attract genuine interest in this and not just shitposting quota?
- Would let's say 1-2 mbtc (per event, about one or two per month) be enough for people here to at least open a few links and take a look at what hoses are running and what their timeform is?
- Is anyone here actually gambling on horse racing?

I used to bet on horse racing before and it's really fun to watch and it's heart wrenching you actually see this horse run in front of you. Not really sure though, maybe it's the odds or the profit margin? Although in Middle East and Australia it's very popular, or maybe the notion that horse racing can be fix. After all, the jockey is the one controlling this magnificent animals and so if they will slack obviously the horse will not run faster.

I have to take a look at my PM as there was someone who also says that he wants to have this kind of prediction game.

Edit: the user that PM me is no longer active, and it's way back 2018.  Smiley

I never really had the opportunity to bet with horses, but I wanted to do it, when I studied at the U many did it, some won and were very lucky, other days they went and didn't win any, generally they gave it up. blame one of them for being a lump of salt, or a black cat, or all those references that help to highlight or characterize a person that they used to see who didn't have much luck, that's why they blamed him, something very funny indeed. , but they always did it, the truth is I don't know how many horses there are that participate, or rather how many riders, and what training the riders must receive, although it is not the other way around, because they are people who only have to resist the speed and that they hit the horse with a toy to make it go faster, I have never seen if there are many accidents of these, because if there are they are very dangerous, because it is very likely that they will kill themselves, because at that speed and falling to the ground can happen. It can be something deadly, so for the Jinittes it is usually something very dangerous, I think that for this de'prote you have to have a lot of concentration, a person who is afraid or whose concentration fails can make a mistake that cannot be forgiven.

I don't know how much animal abuse is given to one of these horses, but for these horses to perform in a race, they must have a special diet, a very good load of vitamins and they must have a very adequate diet so that Don't become very stupid and slow, this is what basically occurs to me, personally I like whatever has to do with animals, what I don't like is that they make them suffer or that they practically have to submit to acts that are not appropriate, as I have said, currently there are many rights that animals have, there are many and anything that is going to be done to an animal is denounceable and they will immediately be prosecuted and imprisoned.


I dont see any problems in regarding about horse racing or any other racing which it is really that involving animals unlike on that cockfighting which it is
really that fight to death and surprisingly there are people who do really make a bet on that. Making up some research about how many animals are really into sports or considered to
be that you could really be able to bet on and i found this.


Link

It is really just that among on the list Horse racing is really that quite known or really that popular compared to others.
Also its really that more interesting.It might not be heard that much on this forum but outside it does really have that
huge number of recognition.
646  Economy / Speculation / Re: $31450 proves too strong for Buyers, but Sellers may only dominate below $29400 on: October 06, 2023, 12:42:54 AM


For those of us who trade the trend of the market, Bitcoin has been so frustrating since the 23rd of June when it hit another year's ATH before the subsequent ones. That was the last time a viable bullish movement occurred, and it's almost a month now, but it continues to channel with no clear direction as many economic data, news and event updates affect it differently.

On a closer look at the market today, this might continue, but two important levels could change the narrative in support of either the buyers or the sellers. These two lines are the $31450 (the year's ATH established in June) and the $29400 (where the correction of June's bullish run ended). By principle, both levels have constituted strong barriers that need to be broken before a trend could be established.

However, more attention is on the $31450 as buyers seem to be gaining more traction compared to the lower level of $29400 which has not been threatened since the last day in June. Regardless, more sellers seem to be piling up around $31450, which could only explain why the market has not had a single close above the level in the last 24 days despite all the attempts of the buyers and some positive news.

For this, I believe a daily close above the level ($31450) will activate a strong bullish trend, while a break and daily close below $29400 might pressure the market.

I made similar projection in this thread where I gave two case scenarios of my expectations for Bitcoin. So far, the first scenario that suggested a downward move to the $26k region seem to be playing out. The zone is actually critical and expected to hold price for more upward moves. However, if that zone is eaten by the bears, then there is a high chances that prize will reach the $22k-$20k region. This will be a lot depressing to a lot of people but not the true believers because Bitcoin will always bounce back stronger and better.

In my submission, I actually stated that Bitcoin will rise to create new highs just like every other person is saying. The time it will rise and to what extent it will go deeper before rising is what no one know with certainty. The wise thing to do at this point is to try and hold reasonable amount of Bitcoin while preparing for the rise.

Being in this forum already mean you believe in Bitcoin and it will not be logical to be here and miss out on securing your future through Bitcoin because Bitcoin is indeed the future.
Now we are playing on prices which is really that below these price points on which we are talking now on 27-28k on which this had been known the strong support until the price hits up that 25k support. Good thing that
it didnt really have those breakouts on which it did really that resulted into some small scale recovery but at least the price is really gradually backing up to 30k. We are now focusing on breaking that 28k resistance before we would really be breaking that 30k then next would really be 34-35. For now there are no current positive sentiments or news that would really be pushing through the price.It might be that quite nonrelevant
but we know that news like this could really make neither an impact or not but most likely nowadays, it does!.

Here's the current chart;
647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have You Ever Made Such Mistake Before, But Won still? on: October 05, 2023, 09:38:44 PM
Hi guys,
Lucky me actually..

Something happened while I was playing QUICK PICK on L0tt0.com yesterday, normally, my maximum bet for each number picked is always the minimum which is $0.25 cent, and I always pick not more than two numbers which costs me $0.5 cent per round, but while playing the game yesterday, I did not know when my finger touched the "Select bet value" slide bar and increased my bet value to $1.75 dollars for each number picked, I then picked my usual two numbers and I was billed $3.50 dollars for that round, this was a total mistake which I didn't even take note of until i saw that I won $28.

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I was like wow 😍, with $0.5 cents for two numbers, what I normally won if one of those numbers played is $4, but if both numbers I choose plays, I win $8, but this time, I saw that I won $28, I was like how come? I began inspecting and discovered that my bet was not $0.5 cent, but $3.50 dollars, I was like what the heck, a mistake that turned sweet for me 😋😋.

So by this experience, I am moved to ask you guys if any one of you have ever made such a mistake, but it turned out in your favor? Please share with us.

So whats the concept or how to win up on Lotto on just choosing 2 numbers? Usually if we do speak or talk about lotto then it would really be on few number combinations on which it is really that something that a common requirement for you to win. I might check out Lotto.com later on and see on how you do be able to win up with having 2 number selection. Speaking about mistakes that resulted for a win then i did have those
experience wayback into those early years when im starting up on dealing with crypto is on which i had put up some max bet on 3x odds on slots on which on the time that i had pressed that roll button then
i have seen those base bet turned out to be max but luckily that roll end up on win and this is why it is really that something that pumps out my blood on extreme because it was my whole bankroll that had been set out
but i was lucky on having that win and bankroll had x3 which i had cashed out directly and never intend to play more and call it simply a day for me.
648  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading purely based on luck. on: October 05, 2023, 08:50:21 PM
I tried to trade without any analysis, relying only on luck, I was flipping a coin for each trade I entered.
During a three day period, I initiated three trades per day, each with a small profit target and a stop-loss order. Surprisingly, these results outperformed the trades I made based on speculation and trend analysis.
it is important to note that the long term outcome remains uncertain.
I considered this experiment a success mainly due to the fact that I was trading on a demo account with no emotional involvement, and the trades automatically closed when they reached their stop loss levels, and I did not make impulsive decisions to alter the stop loss orders.
In real trading scenarios, emotional factors, such as adjusting stop-loss levels and increasing leverage, often lead to losses.

Trading is not the gambling,So how you claim the trading was based on the luck.The analytical skills help one to earn good money from the trading,because the trader should take one coin for the investment.Then he shoiud analysis the complete from the origin of the coin to the current point.So the trader will make their accurate time for the pump and dump in the price of that coin.So the analysis was the key factor for the trading,So using the ideology one trader can find the accurate buying price of that coin.In all the way trading is not based on the luck.
You would find it sooner or later on the time that you do step your foot into this market then it would really be just that so normal that you would really be that having those impressions that trading is risky on which it would really be that similar to gambling but sooner or later you would be able to realize that it wont really be just that as risky if you do really know on what you are doing.Plus we could already differentiate on whats a leisure thing and whats an investment or venture that you are dealing in speaking with trading. Somewhat it is really that true that there's a little bit mix of luck on which we do really need if we do speak about success
on trading because no matter how good your analysis is but if things turns out to be salty then you would definitely be having that issue on failing up with your trades.

It is typical of newcomers to think that by some means of luck they could be successful traders but trading doesn't work that way, trading success doesn't rely on luck but strictly on skills, anyone could be lucky with a trade they open but in that luck 99% is dependent on your applied skills and strategy to that very trade.

If this was gambling I could more or less agree about luck but same doesn't apply with trading that's why it's advisable for traders to keep learning different trading skills and strategy till they discover the very one that works best for them and pitch your tent there stead of sitting on luck.

This is true on which on which if you are still a complete noob then you would really be having this kind of intent or belief in mind that it is really that something that similar to gambling
on which it would really be normal that you would be having that gambler like kind of approach until you would realize that this isnt something that really needs to have that kind of dealing
but rather you should go to that serious part on analyzing and studying more rather than on being careless and easy go lucky kind of behavior.
649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Credit card gambling fuels gambling addiction on: October 05, 2023, 07:51:07 PM
I don't know how deep the debt on credit card gambling is today until I do my own research and mehn, and it's very sad, many people are in debt because they keep using their credit cards to fund their gambling hunger.
That is the most stupid thing that we can find in gambling , when a gambler uses Money in which not his own (meaning borrowed from credit card)
because this will add confidence that you have a complete pack of money to gamble when the truth is? you are only relying on your luck to pay that debit and once you completely lose then the problem started.
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Imagine someone you know telling you that it will take him 12 years to pay off his debt, I now know why few countries don't want their citizens to gamble using their credit cards,  betting on credit cards has left too many people in thousands of debt.


That's it , let us not become one of those to be in debt all their life just because of wrong decision in gambling.

Gambling is specifically listed in the fine print of some credit card agreements as a form of a cash advance or cash equivalent. That's bad. Here's why. Cash advance fee: This is a one-time fee charged when you take your advance, usually 3% to 5% of the amount.

Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=why+we+must+not+use+credit+card+in+gambling&sca_esv=570874343&ei=2jEeZcCxKbGm2roPlpmImAo&ved=0ahUKEwjAhtzh_92BAxUxk1YBHZYMAqMQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=why+we+must+not+use+credit+card+in+gambling&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiK3doeSB3ZSBtdXN0IG5vdCB1c2UgY3JlZGl0IGNhcmQgaW4gZ2FtYmxpbmcyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyCBAhGBYYHhgdSJyJAVDEI1jKggFwAXgAkAEDmAGyAaABxTWqAQU1MS4yMrgBA8gBAPgBAagCCsICCBAAGKIEGLADwgIWEAAYAxiPARjlAhjqAhi0AhiMA9gBAcICFhAuGAMYjwEY5QIY6gIYtAIYjAPYAQHCAg4QABiKBRixAxiDARiRAsICCBAAGIoFGJECwgIHEC4YigUYQ8ICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgILEAAYigUYsQMYgwHCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYigUYQ8ICDRAAGIoF
GLEDGIMBGEPCAhEQLhiDARivARjHARixAxiABMICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIIEC4YsQMYgATCAgUQLhiABMI CCBAAGIoFGIYDwgIGEAAYFhgewgIEECEYFcICBxAhGKABGAriAwQYASBBiAYBkAYEugYECAEYCg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

actually this is one of the main reason in legality
Usually it would be playing around 2-3%
Cash advance fee: This is the fee charged every time you withdraw cash using your Credit Card. Typically, it ranges from 2.5% to 3% of the transaction amount
https://www.hdfcbank.com/personal/resources/learning-centre/pay/credit-card-cash-withdrawal-dos-and-donts

Which means that the amount of money you would really be recieving does already have that kind of deduction and you would really be double killed on the time that due date comes on which you would really be
then it would really be just that the same it would really be playing around 2-3% on which means that in overall you had already needing to pay that 4-6% in just a month and this is something that you should
instill into your mind that its never been that ideal on making use of these cards considering those deductions then you would definitely be putting up yourself on great  trouble.

Somewhat making use of CC's arent that bad as long you are really that a responsible card holder. Even myself does have some couple of CC"s but never intended to make use of it on gambling
because its never been worth and just a waste of money on spending it out. If you have decided on making use of it then be responsible on repaying it on time so that
you wont really be experiencing those deep debts on which most people do really encounter or able to experience even if we do speak with those casual
spending but ending up on not repaying on the right time.
650  Economy / Economics / Re: What would you do in this situation? Invest or save? on: October 05, 2023, 06:49:59 PM
If you have plans to start a dream business that requires a capital of  $20,000 and you were able to make a savings of $15,000 which obviously isn't enough to start up the business, what would be your decision or advice?

1. Invest the $15,000 into a smaller business hoping that the returns will yield the remaining $15,000 in a short period. Note that this has the potential of failing and wasting the already-saved  $15,000.

2. Keep the $15,000 while doing other work that will yield the remaining money over a long period.

Would love to see your input or a better suggestion apart from the ones I pointed out above.

N/B
This is the typical situation a friend finds himself and we are just brainstorming in what best to do.

To me it's best you save!
It's the person's dream business we are talking about here and out of $20,000 you got $15,000.a tendency your dream business achievement is becoming a realistic form.

Just so you know you might as well invest and mind you your returns might be for a longer period but as pertaining when you need the remaining it's preferably advice you  save up and find other means to raise the complete figures to go about the business.
Saving would really be the less risky part rather than on investing it but it would really be that be slow compared if you are trying out to put it up on some investment but if you do saw that the saving pace isnt really that
slow because you do know on how to save up and reach out that another 5k then it would really be that ideal that it would be better that you should really wait for things to be intact. We do know investing or
making some business would really be that so risky and its not something that would really be that recommended considering about the risks but if you do want to fasten things up and could possibly be able to
make money or profit which is more than on what you do need then business or investment could really give out that kind of opportunity.

If I had the capital of 20k dollars,the first thing was invest of the 10k in the bitcoin.Because at the mature period now,nearly five years up to the old pump.So many old trader in the forum was mention of the new all time high.So it had huge value,the bitcoin will give the good profit next year.The balance 10k dollars can be filled with the Ethereum for the 5k dollars.The Ethereum also reach the 3k dollars at the time of bitcoin all time high.Balance 5k can be split in the BNB,Solana,Ripple,ADA and Matic.
If you are in a rush phase then this one isnt really that something that applicable yet knowing that $10k investments which making up some gain even on 10% movement
isnt something that we could really easily see today considering about the price movement on which it would really be just testing out your patience and wont really be
that able to see it as a good option for you to take because lets say it is really that quite so slow.
651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ban from a Casino for Nothing Other Than Winning Too Much Money on: October 04, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
The problem is most of the casino is connected to each other so they share information about certain customers that gives them a hard time then later on him too. The person we are talking about here is a high roller with a very good analysis skills which means this person is a threat to casino industry.

Not only physical casino but also online casino is banning user or limiting their bets if they are winning too much. No business will allow someone to continuously drain their bankroll while they have a lot of customers contributing to the profit which they can focus on.
Yes, that information will be shared with other casinos to be careful of people with such high luck. Every casino owner will protect his business and limit the bets of people who usually win a lot of money. And if casinos can limit those people's bets, they can still gain an advantage over other gamblers who will lose more often.

Well, it's okay for people who are limited in their gambling and it might be an opportunity for that person to reduce their gambling activities. Think of it as a way to prevent a gambling addiction that the person may already have.
Exactly. We are not just seeing here the welfare of the casino, but even with the gambler as well. If these players will be limited from betting, the advantage is that they can prevent a lot of losses so they can save more from their funds, and most importantly they will avoid gambling additiction. Although it's an initial act for casinos to protect their bankroll, but it's also a way to prevent theirselves from consistent losing.
Avoiding on getting addicted or something that could save up some funds because of being restricted, then yes its good but you would really be having that kind of frustration when you are in that kind of boost state or condition specially when you do know that you are winning and then suddenly they do decide on restricting you on your gambling session which we do know that it doesnt really give out that good feeling on this case.
If a certain casino is really that afraid in terms of getting bankrupt then it would really be just that normal that they should really be setting out those max bet for possible max win so that they wont really be that
totally get zeroed on the time that a huge win happen or those big wins. Its true that this is the nightmare or the risks of this gambling site business or venture on which into those people who do make out those
huge wins despite on making use of small money or bets because we know that in gambling then everything does have that chance on hitting those jackpots or something that it is really significant. If they would really be blocking out a certain user then it should be fine as long they arent owing something like locking up their winnings and as a user or player then its impossible that you wont really be able to assess such condition
which its obviously that they dont really want nor like you on playing into their site.
652  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is there still hope for the price of BTC to hit back $69k this year? on: October 04, 2023, 08:41:31 PM
This, pretty much. Its bit too late to hit anything above 30-35k in Bitcoin. We are too much into bear market. Normally there would be reaction to dumps if we were going down from 60k to 40k etc But we are going down even from 30k levels to 20ks. Its best to spend this year accumulating Bitcoin at lowest prices we can ever hit. I would honestly buy a lot Bitcoin from 22-23k levels. I believe it will hit 80k at least in next bull run.
A favorable entry point indeed. In the coming months, a slight bearish trend may guide us all towards a support level at $25,500, and should Bitcoin dip below $25,000, we may re-enter the realm of $22,000 to $23,000 thereafter.

Before a bullish run typically ensues, a period of bearishness usually precedes it, followed by a sharp price rebound. Traders often refer to this as an opportunity to accumulate more assets and maximize profits when prices turn bullish in the near future.
This is what I am expecting as well, while a great deal of people are expecting that as soon as the halving happens we get a bullish movement, I think it is way more likely that things will remain roughly the same and then we could see a decrease on the price as people begin to sell disappointed they are not obtaining the immediate profits they were looking for, however this is the perfect opportunity to accumulate even more bitcoin, as the bull run seems to be inevitable to me.

Our common opinion is that the bull run is the future. We have ideas about when it will come, but we all say we need to be careful. I think it is positive that we approach the market in this way.

Since the predicted high prices did not materialize, we are now considering the price to fall and collect Bitcoin. I'm really curious about what will happen during the halving. I wonder if the price increase will occur before or after the halving.
Putting up into our minds that a market cant really just having that single path to take on which means that if we are moving downwards and sideways for too long then its really that impossible for the market on having

no upward movement or would really be having that recovery on which it would really be just that so normal that you would anticipate that it could happen anytime soon specially now that we are fast approaching
on halving event which we know that a its a huge catalyst for the price to pump but no one really knows on when it would happen. Now we are on the talks about recovering on 69k for this year?
It is really just that too far off basing on the movement that we do have now on which we do even have a hard time on breaking 30k again then let alone that previous ATH that we are talking on here.

This is why it would really be that important that you should not really that anticipate or expect much with those numbers so that you wont really be finding  yourself that getting disappointed when the time comes that
it didnt really happen. We are dealing with a speculative market on which it would really be just that normal that you would really be dealing up with something that unpredictable.
So it does need that speculative approach at the same time you would really be needing to take up the risks.
The key on here is that you should not expect much on seeing those numbers because we are basically speaking or pertaining about breaking that all-time-high which we know that it cant be so easy.
Bare in mind that we do even struggle in the past on breaking that 19-20k all time high on previous bull run but it did really eventually be reaching out those numbers and we didnt really expect
that it did really be able to push through 69k. Now that we are already fast approaching with the halving event then expect bull run would usually be kicking in after some couple of months or lets say
6-7 months basing up on the previous but this time then we dont really know on when it would happen. Speaking about breaking its previous ATH for this year would really be that impossible,
we cant really be that so sure for it to happen until that halving event would happen. Any event on post-halving event is something that the entire community would really be looking upon which we do know
that there would really be always having those chances that price might sky rocket anytime on this timeframe.
653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will the Gambling Sportybet (Company) Refund the Money? on: October 04, 2023, 07:34:37 PM
This is actually one of the lamest questions I've ever read in here... It's obvious that the funds cannot be refunded for any reason; the casino said that for more clarity already...so what's the point of asking insensible questions ?? To me, this post has no quality at all and should be put down. if you were really keen about writing on this, then there'd have been a better way to do so...

gambling shouldn't be presumed a way to make money; only a few have made it through that route randomly...so I feel it's not worth the time, stress and anticipation... To y'all out there still below the age of 18, avoid gambling away your funds!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Weekly quota posters are here again. Your vast knowledge in the society is narrow. Let me tell you a story, which was told by an elderly man in a Moonlight story time. "A biological father of a daughter impregnated her and his wife took him to the law court, and in practical, the man bought a new suit and torn it in the courtroom and told the court that he own the suit and used it the way he wants and he won the case". What is the moral lesson, when you take a case to the law court, it is the capability of the lawyer will tell you whether you will win or not. If the boy took the case to court and he has sound lawyers he might win the case and all depends on the angle the lawyers will look at the case. Yes we all know that the boy violated the Terms and Conditions of the casino but if he want to take it to the court, then he has the freedom to do so, and I also believed this is a good discussion thread so that when it happened again , this might be a reference thread to solve issues so I don't see why you said the post is low quality, yet you contribute. Can you define low quality post? So I can learn. I don't want to exchange words.

I also believe it is worth discussing even if the answer is obvious, the scenario is still possible or there could be people who out of curiosity will check a discussion online to see the possibility of a minor asking for a refund because he gambled it wrongly.

There are thousands of discussions that could happen in gambling we have millions of people gamble, and if members think it's not worth discussing then he or she is free not to participate and let others who want to participate in a discussion do it.
Totally true that no one should be stopped on creating topics or discussion something like this even though it isnt really that something having no sense because if you do really check out the situation then it would be obviously that boy wont really be getting his money no matter what because the money that you had spent out on making bets would really be just that final and doesnt matter what those funds real usage would be attached into it then its none of others business or on platforms concern because once you had place out the bet then its considered final and dont make yourself that being that too desperate on asking for some refund.
It would really be just that normal that this boy would be ignored and if things becomes that too noisy and affecting a certain platforms reputation the they might be reconsidering on taking it back but in overall
gambling rules and regulations then its most likely people around do already knows on what would happen.

It would be taken normally that boy having that costly lesson learned into his life and would really make him that realized that gambling is never been that a safe thing. Yes, it could make money
on instant manner but doesnt mean that you would really be out from that risky situation or very dangerous on which you might be losing those funds that you do have in your pocket.
Its not bad to play as long you do make use of the amount which you can afford to lose.
654  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading can ruin you on: October 04, 2023, 06:51:41 PM
Trading is most times profitable and sometimes challenging to traders, but it can ruin you just as gambling if you don't know how before venturing into it,  I have had a handful of terrible experience while trading and I discovered that it can return you to square one in terms of your finances if precautions is not taken.

Though am a better trader now, but I still thred with caution,  the best way for newbie to navigate their way in the market is to buy and hold, then sell when the price goes up.
When it comes to future market, newbie should stay off because it's for experience traders, even if you run a poll of people to tell of their experience in trading in this forum, %80 of people will rule out trading as a no go area based on their terrible experience while trading.

So newbie, stay of trading futures if you know nothing about technical analysis or fundamental analysis for not to be ruined.
Trading is always profitable only if one is able to analyze market strategies. Moreover, many times when market volatility occurs, successful traders also face great challenges and risk losing their money. Of course one should never trade without acquiring knowledge about trading but surely all money will be lost like gambling. Just like many people lose their money in gambling, trading without understanding is the fear of losing money and getting into huge challenges.

Even if you are a successful trader, you still need to trade with sufficient amount of caution. Many times successful traders get caught while trading and their money is at risk, so everyone should trade with caution. Newbies are very raw in this matter for which many times they face huge challenges, so they need to acquire knowledge and skills about trading well before participating in trading. But if the new traders buy from the low market and sell in the high market, they will gradually gain experience and profit from it. Moreover, if trading is done according to the advice of experienced people, the chances of facing losses are less, yet many times newbies face terrible markets. Moreover, I have seen many experienced traders face terrible challenges at times, so all small and big traders need to trade carefully. But I think sport trading is best for beginners as they will easily lose their money if they go for futures trading.
Always profitable? No its not! because even if you do call yourself that an experienced trader but still it wont really be making out guarantees that you would really be able to make money and this is something that you should really be needing to realize on because if you do anticipate that much on having that profitable trades most of the time but the market had opposed on what you had anticipated then for sure it would really be bringing out with that big frustration and this is something that you must avoid. Why? It would really be making out that kind of impulsive kind of reaction on which it is really that something that will come out since we are really just that human beings on which reactions would be made would really be just that typical. Dont make yourself that too optimistic because if you do find yourself that too much expecting with those positive
results then when the time that markets volatility did goes to the opposite way then disappointement would be there and the worst on which on the time that you do become impulsive then
alterations of earlier analysis might be made out.
655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Educate yourself to be a frugal gambler on: October 03, 2023, 09:56:05 PM
Play for fun. If you are not playing for fun, you are doing it wrong. Gambling should be done to entertain yourself only, and always remember that gambling is not a sound financial investment. I have witnessed the horrors of people who blow their kids college funds and life savings on gambling at a Casino. Don't be one of these people. Have a daily or weekly gambling budget and learn which games you like and how to play them so that you can actually have much more fun playing them than just winging any game.

With honesty, when last did you gamble with this thought? Huhnn  Grin I'm just kidding. If you give a survey and ask people around this board to help you feel all the form with good feedback, they will say it's for entertainment, this and that but if we are to exceed and intrude their privacy, you will be shock how addicted they have all become with gambling but even most of them don't know that they are in addition with the way they bet and throw money into casinos, they are all chasing the bag instead of the fun and the money that comes with it.

Daily, weekly and monthly budget helps cure unnecessary spending but without self descipline, it's an effort that will lead to nothing, because when you lose all the budget, you will be tempted to go back but if you obey your own code, standard practice, nothing is going to move you a bit, you will strive through any hard times will never yield to pressure of losses, the pain of losing will not make you make any drastic decisions.

It's hard to teach people how to be frugal, let alone teach themselves that thing. It's like asking a candle to light itself without giving it any light source at all. I know that there are people who are really getting the fun in gambling and are not degenerates, but there are still a lot of people that are looking into gambling as the next big opportunity to improve their income. It's hard to sway their mindset if that's what they continue to believe, although it's never too late for them to change their ways if they really want to. They have to have some kind of support though, because initiating something isn't as easy as it sounds, especially if it contradicts whatever you've been doing for the longest of time.

It's a natural phenomenon, you can't even convince people the other way when they want something and when money is involved, you will only waste your time telling them the opposite of what they do. Gambling will remain an alternative to a place where they can tossed a dice and make something for the pocket, thought sometimes I don't play them because of people that manage to win display wealth as evidenced and if that is shown to any one that is eager to make money, what do you have as evidence to show them that gambling is not for money only but fun? It's a going to be a lengthy explanation that will end in nothing.
We can give advises as much as we could into other people but only a few would really be minding on hearing out and applying those ideas into their real life scenarios or situation but majority of people would really be just simply ignoring those words and would really be living accordingly with their own decisions in life on which its not really that something wrong because we do really that different motives and targets in life and on the things that we are dealing with .Its our money to be used not theirs - which its a primary line on where those people does have in mind. Even myself on which on the time that i do gamble then i dont really let other people do influence on what the things i do want to but there are really moments on which you might be that considering on hearing out and this might really that good for you.

There are really just those people who are close minded and doesnt really accept others advises and suggestions and this is why they do really end up on a disaster. We do know that gambling is really just
that for fun but on the time that you are already crossing those limit lines then for sure it would really be ending up on a disaster if things becomes severe. This is why
you should really be that careful on this one.
656  Economy / Economics / Re: How do you deal with financial stress? on: October 03, 2023, 08:55:40 PM
Actually, many have been mentioned on this thread like the following;

  • Real estate
  • Business

And it's not just about having those investments or assets. You can also have employment that's good paying or if not, as long as it brings food to your family's table. That's what matters on these days when everyone is struggling and having a hard time beating up the inflation and are just in the recovery period of their life statuses.

Well, I think financial security is also very necessary in investing, especially in the world of digital currencies, for example BTC, along with various other aspects of financial planning, as @Antotena said, because we are also just ordinary people who do not have the power to see the future.

What you are saying is that fulfillment is the main thing and it is natural for you to say that because what must come first is fulfilling the minimum basic needs in the family, food must be prioritized regardless of whatever conditions are occurring. We can still endure hunger for 1 day without food and only consume water, but our children may not be able to.
Been there and done that, it's a real situation that many are dealing with. Like we can survive and that's true since we're adults but we can't attain this survival the same goes for the younger ones that we have, especially toddlers. It's understandable that someone can't invest with those when he's focusing on providing food for his family. Many are in that situation but, there can also be some ways of doing things on your own if you want to invest. There is no need in sacrificing the budgeting part but, what you need to sacrifice is to add extra effort for you to earn more with another source of income.
A must thing to be done but this isnt something that you could really be able to attain so easily. It might really that sounds easy but the truth is that due to competition and lack of opportunities then for sure it would really
be just that so hard on getting some extra jobs or having those extra income on which you could really be able to get. If it was easy on the first place then tons of people or most of us wouldnt really be facing
any tough challenges in our life but we are totally seeing the different thing. For those who do struggle then for sure they are really that thinking on having those additional income source but since to those common
factors then it isnt something that so easy on doing so and this is why we do really need to have those sacrifices.Yes, its not really that something that we do like to happen but since we dont really have no choice
then it would really be just that so sad that we would really be needing to do it for us to survive. If we do really need up to survive then adjustments should really be made.
657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Getting paid on gambling accounts on: October 03, 2023, 07:23:57 PM
You would really be ending up on having that kind of regret on the time that you do spend up those campaign payments with gambling activity specially if its credited out on a gambling account.
It was a really bad experience. One time, I got two weeks' worth of money in my gambling account, but I lost it all in just 10 seconds. So, if anyone else gets money in their gambling account,
I suggest you stop doing that and use a different kind of wallet.
Also, if you're thinking about making small bets to save a little money on fees, don't do it. Trying to save a little money could end up costing you everything.
And this ends up on banging up your head into the wall and would really be murmuring that you shouldn't have done that. Money that you had saved up on your gambling account could really be blown out in a matter of
seconds or simply being that instant and no matter how small or big it is then it would really be just that prone into that kind of probability on which it would really be just that wise if you do really just simply pull those
balance after you have recieved into your own personal wallet or something a wallet which are intended for your savings. Usually it is really that basing up on your intentions because if you do have that gambling
urge then you would be playing with those balances and dont mind on where those funds came from as long you do able to cater yourself towards your leisure or needing up this one
without realizing that you are putting yourself on big trouble.
658  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Spot trading or future trading which trading is best for beginers? on: October 03, 2023, 06:31:59 PM
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Better to start with spot and this is something more simple because you arent making use of higher leverage because the higher it would be the higher the risks that you would really be needing to face
up and this isnt something newbie-friendly and this is why it would really be that better on taking up such decision.
Spot trading will seem slower for those who are impatient, and Beginners who have not gained full knowledge of crypto trading will choose Futures trading with high leverage to get more profits, but they don't know that the decision will make them lose instantly or get liquidated due to the use of high leverage.

The use of leverage must be very wise and one must think about the risks that will be experienced when the price prediction is wrong.
and backup funds are also important to have.

Basic knowledge in any trade is very important to learn to avoid the risk of loss so as not to create a negative stigma about crypto.
Totally true and this is really just that based up on real experience on which if you do find yourself that being in a rush on making up some money then spot trading would really be just that giving out that so slow kind of
showing those outcomes or results on which it would really be resulting that you might be ending up on being impatient and being impulsive in towards your trading position on which it might causes for you to rush up
your decisions and make out alterations not on the right time on which it would definitely be resulting on messing up your trading analysis that had been made earlier on which we know that its not something that recommendable. When you are just that trying out to touch up this kind of career then it would really be just that ideal that you should be sticking on something that less risky and comparing out spot to futures then it would really be just that so normal that dealing with spot would be the best choice. Come to think that even on veterans or older ones which futures isnt something that so easy to be handled out because dealing
up with higher leverage does really impose bigger risks and this is something that they should really be avoiding.
659  Economy / Gambling / Re: Restricted on casino bonuses on: October 02, 2023, 09:47:37 PM
Are you trying to hide the name of the casino, OP? Why is that? Are you afraid of being targeted by their staff?
We can do honest reviews here, but I understand if you want to keep playing there despite these restrictions and don't want to reveal the name for that reason.

Is coins.game the site we're talking about here?

IMO it's very strange for a casino to not accuse a player of illicit behavior and restrict him without any reason.
Better to tell the name of the platform so that at least the community does know on which site does have that kind of behavior and must be avoided but its true that it is really that unlikely
for a casino to make out restrictions on someone or into their players unless if there would be some issues or violations then most likely this one would be applied but if there's none then its
odd on taking up such decision. It would really be that  good if the casino name would really be that mentioned so that the community would be wary that this is what their standard is
on the time that you do have some good winning rate and able to take advantage with their bonuses.
660  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin October Month Performance on: October 02, 2023, 08:48:37 PM
I believe October will runup much like it did in 2015. That was a 33% jump which would mean we would be close to 35-40k by months end.

On march 31  2023 or April 15 2023 the ½ ing happens. At current difficulty price needs to be over 48k by then or a mining collapse will happen.

I am pretty sure we will mirror 2015-2016 runup leading into the ½ ing

so a 33% jump in Oct 2023 seems to be a good guess.
So what are your basis on trying to mimic out or having those similarities on 2015'ish kind of situation on trying out to mirror on what would happen for this month?

We know that market cant really be that read out even if there would really be those sentiments around on which we could see and tell that it is really that relevant
specially on fundamentals which might really be that could greatly affect. The only thing that i do accept or having that relevance on which price should hit
48k and tying it up with miners then it is really that something a good approach or convincing.

33% jump for this month is something that too much basing up on Sept. movements which we are really that moving sideways. Wont be shocking if we do
still stay below 30k for this month of OCT.
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