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1881  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB BTC or LTC for PPUSD need Suppliers! on: March 23, 2013, 03:52:49 AM
Bump

Any questions just ask.
1882  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling 1. Bitcoin for Dwolla on: March 23, 2013, 03:47:45 AM
I can do it for paypal mt gox spot price. You send first.
1883  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Catching Dead Cat Bounces With Current Wire-Delays? on: March 23, 2013, 02:56:49 AM
The only way to do what you are talking about is to use my service. I provide PP USD in exchange for BTC or LTC at spot price. It is the only way to be liquid between btc, ltc and USD.
1884  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I buy and Sell for PAYPAL !! Get over it. on: March 23, 2013, 02:54:26 AM
It is for paypal so I have to charge to off set loses from theft. .55 a litecoin is a good price though. Thanks for a smooth transaction. In the future prices will get closer to spot price.
1885  Economy / Currency exchange / WTB BTC or LTC for PPUSD need Suppliers! on: March 20, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
I have lots of good feedback all over the internet. Several good trades here and on facebook and thousands of good deals on ebay.
I could sell hundreds of coins right now just need a good supplier. Any amount of coin considered all offers welcome.
I am paying MtGox spot price you send first! 
1886  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I buy and Sell for PAYPAL !! Get over it. on: March 19, 2013, 08:08:42 PM
Ha that is funny. I can sell to you if you can verify. Right now I only have ltc but you can switch them over to btc at btc-e
1887  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Have verified PayPal, offer me your best rate on: March 19, 2013, 03:03:42 PM
Pretty sure this guy is tagged as a scammer.
1888  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Paypal not reversible for Bitcoins on: March 19, 2013, 03:02:26 PM
I use papal all the time. In fact every trade that I have done has been for paypal. It is my preferred way to pay and get paid. They do what they want at PP. So just dont sell to scammers.
 
1889  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best way to convert BTC,LTC to USD in America? on: March 19, 2013, 02:39:47 AM
The best way to go between ltc and btc and usd is to use my service at bitcoin friends. I make it quick and easy to go from btc or ltc to USD.
1890  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: unfair treatment to new members on: March 19, 2013, 02:37:36 AM
100 percent agreed guys here are a bunch of dicks. If you say things like that they will ban you.

@deathcode rules 12 and 5 are idiotic. I agree you should be diligent, but the real way to do well is to know who to trust not to trust no one. Every transaction begins with trust. 
1891  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I buy and Sell for PAYPAL !! Get over it. on: March 19, 2013, 02:24:37 AM
Ya Let me do as a wish i know the risk and accept them been selling for 6 months now with only 2 small charge backs.
1892  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: MASTER'S SCAMMER LIST on: March 17, 2013, 04:12:40 PM
I have been unable to reply to this bullshit slandering of my character. I have been banned for the last 7 days. I don't know why I was banned I guess I stepped on someones toes.
This is a list of all the comments from the holding the forums money thread.

 
Sure I will hold 500 btc in storage with out a full reserve requirement. I think you need 100% reserve but can be held in any accepted currencies in predetermined ratios. 
   
This is sarcasm I guess I should have indicated that. I only had like 10 post when this was written so it was more obvious at the time.

What if one of the members die? the funds are just lost?



Wrong buddy I gave all of my information up, you just though I was a Liar you were wrong. Everything I said was and is true. I told the investigation guy that I would have paid him to tell the community that i was legit, just so i didnt have to go through all of the games you guys play.

Now this is real busllshit. I cant find my post I believe that it was edit out, but cab find where people quoted what I said.

I think I might have a good suggestion on what to do with the forums funds. Why not set up a program where there is a communal pool of coins that members can borrow coins from with limits of course. Say you take the funds and do micro loans with a small interest rate available to all members of the community in good standing. Then have the limits raised for members with good credit. I say allow people to borrow the amount that they have contributed to the fund ,but let everyone in at a certain level. For example if you borrowed 10 and paid back 11 (or the equivalent in usd) then your limit would be raised to 11. The forums money can work for everyone. Before you trash my suggestion or say it is not possible ask yourself how it would be possible. Suggestions are welcome


No one like this? You are all talking about how much fees you will take ( this is donated right?) This would be the most decentralized solution and the fund would grow not shrink. If you are worried about trust this is the best way to hedge against lost and theft. With no risk. If you only lend what has been paid in if someone walks they can only take what they put in.
It's a really stupid idea, sublime.  Why would theymos want to loan out the forum's money to random people on the web?  I don't think donators would want that to be done with their money.

Another instance where I was edited out of the feed huh... I wonder why?
Really, I am the one looking scammy. I dont want the coins, others have been drooling over the idea. I dont care. Why wouldnt he want to lend the coins out to the people who donated the coin in the first place. Why wouldnt he want to make money off the fund not lose it to you crooks. Trying to charge fees to hold the peoples donated money and i am the crook.

You're probably the guy who posted the more in that thread and you really, really don't fit the profile theymos is looking for. What are you looking to gain here?

Nothing I am not in this for me. I just want the money used properly not given to people who happen to have coins under their name. The money should be used for the improvement of the community. I was thinking of donating, but not if that is where it is going to friends the forum host. If I donate it is to grow the community not to line the pockets of an insiders club.  

Let the people who donated the coins hold their excess donations, you have a list of the transactions just send them back the coins when you need them ask for them. Nice and f@#$ simple no need to scam on it, no need to pay fees, no need for complicated key systems, no risk of theft,no trust issues, no people begging to hold the coins.  My suggestion is the only one that makes sense.   I will not donate to the fund if these funds are given to insiders.     

I'm still writing the contract. I don't have a lot of time to work on it.

Give the excess coins back to the people who donated them. Have them pledge the coins for forum use when needed. I am very interested to see what happens with this issue it will determine how much (if any) that I donate to the forum. 

Put their real names up if they are going to hold communal funds. From where I sit this agreement is shit.  I will give my donations to the forum some other way. Somewhere I know where they are going.

Let me ask this. BCB just got 2,000 dollars stole from him. What if it was 20,000? what would prevent him from taking the donations to cover his losses?

This is a good ol boys club, A bunch of insiders looking after themselves with donated money. Let me ask how people would react if the salvation army.
Started holding all the funds in the personal accounts of the board members?

This all looks like a scam in the making to me. 

Here's the first draft of the treasurer contract that I came up with. I'm trying to make a contract without using laws. Therefore, "The Forum" can't exist as a corporate entity and its existence needs to be defined in the contract. We'll see if this sort of structure ends up working well. If it does, maybe other Bitcoin organizations can use it as a model.

What defects does this agreement have?

This includes a list of "community council" members, but note that I didn't actually ask these people if they want to be members yet. I'll do that before this contract is actually used.

Are community council members treasurers?

The agreement is without law? Without law or force? So if a treasurer takes the money... we will ask them nicely to do the right thing?

If this is where you are going with the agreement, just send it out as you wish. If there are no legal responsibilities on either side, why an "agreement" Just tell them what rules they can abide by if they wish, and if they don't want to it's cool.

Sounds a little silly to me.

+1000 

"Salvation Army is a charity. The money they receive is not their profits, and is not theirs to keep. This forum is a privately owned business of sorts. Whatever donations the owners of the forum get are their to keep and do whatever they want with, "gool ol boys" or not. You are also free to whine and not participate, or to join that club yourself."

Then dont call them donations call them dues or fees.

Make it decentralized give every hero member a share, give it back to the people who donated it, set up a loan service and give it all out. Just a few idea to socialize the risk.

If you change it to fees or dues I will shut my mouth. 

If these truly are donations then they are for the improvement of this community. If they are fees, dues, or revenue that it is your money spend it on what ever you like, just dont do around calling fees donations.   

I bet this is what got me banned.
This IS a good old boys club. This "contract" has ZERO force of law. Legally they could all just walk away with the forum donations. Just because you want to handle it in the community doesn't mean you should write a contract with no teeth and eliminate your OPTION for legal action. Also they get paid monthly fees, WTF is that? Plenty of people are willing to do it without charge. This looks to me like a jerking of the circular variety.

+1 really I think that theymos and the rest need to be added to the pending scammer list. I think I might put a poll about this and see how others feel.

they are on drugs xtc is my guess. I understand what you are saying, but at the same time looks like a scam to me. Giving donated money to your friends is sketch

This is in responce to steamboat spreading FUD
way to take me out of context what kind of bullshit is that? 

I have never offered to hold the forums money. I dont want it and anyone that does is suspect.

There is a couple more but you get the idea. I dont want the forums money and think that the hero members are acting like scammers.
1893  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: MASTER'S SCAMMER LIST on: March 08, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
okay so what I am hearing is this guy is a particularly large piece of shit. I am at the doctor with my wife when I get home i will post it to the list. 
1894  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: March 08, 2013, 07:03:01 PM
sublime5447 damn! This is one of the most complex projects I have seen about btc

It is going to get much more complex, it is mostly for ltc. I am hoping to fit 10 rigs in the cabinet and enclose the sides with plexiglass and a large floor fan blowing up through it. My dad owns a software company that manages data centers, like billion dollar data centers, so i have access to cheap/free equipment and management software.

I dont like tech stuff and didn't want to build one but got sick of trying to convince people to sell me some GD coins. The main reason that i did it is to prove who I am and what I am about. I am sick of people calling me a scammer when they are the ones who operate in darkness and don't have coins or money. 
1895  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: March 08, 2013, 06:43:37 PM
^^What is it?

How did you get the gpus to run with only 1 pcie power connector ?! wtf lol

I didnt. I had to change out the power supply.

I wound up using a 850w with 4 6 pin connectors

I was thinking i was going to use 3 cheap power supplies but used 2 good ones
1896  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: MASTER'S SCAMMER LIST on: March 08, 2013, 06:39:46 PM
I would probably add Luceo here as well.  He has been running these "charities" for the past 9 months? or so.  I participated in a Christmas charity raffle, Christmas came and gone, still no raffle.  I messaged him that I would like my btc back, because it didn't look like it was going anywhere. In an irc conversation he said he would refund everybody's btc in the current raffle after about a month, "to see how it goes".  This was January 23rd.  A month later, I ask for my btc.  He was completely resistant to the idea at that point.  To me, this has scammer written all over it.

Now I have to ask myself, is the btc even going to its final intended recipients.  My vote is no, its probably not.  At this point I think its a scam unless Luceo and those whom he works with running these charities can provide:

Real names, real phone numbers, a clear trace from the actual charity recipients to Luceo himself.

As a person who runs a charity and takes advantage of people who like to give money to charity, I hold this type of person to an even higher standard of ethics and actions than a normal bitcoin user.

Quantam

Please link to his bitcoin forums profile, and the post about the charity for review. I am only interested in members of this forum. I am banned from otc and consider everyone there to have a high probability of  being a scammer.
Thanks
1897  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer Trade Fortress on: March 08, 2013, 06:36:41 PM
^^ sheep

That's priceless, coming from a family that believes in gods.   Cheesy

Anyway, regarding this thread - MoneypakTrader.com, you make FAR too many assumptions in your posts.  Try writing smaller rants, stick to a couple key points per post, and move forward once those facts have been confirmed.  You'll never get anywhere with your "apparently, obviously, assuming, etc." talk...

Man you guys are relentless. Where do you get "a family that believes in god" I said my dad was a deacon in the church. I didn't say what I believe in.

I am agnostic. fyi
1898  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: MASTER'S SCAMMER LIST on: March 08, 2013, 06:31:37 PM
I thought you would at least like the spelling. I am going to be posting Qweedo=Dick a lot more. I dont like you. You know because Qweedo=Dick
1899  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: March 08, 2013, 05:31:35 PM
^^What is it?
1900  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: MASTER'S SCAMMER LIST on: March 08, 2013, 04:38:15 PM
"In MPT and TF's case, it is clear that the case belongs to the 2) realm. However, to make it clear and unbiased, both parties have to be under scrutiny, which is not in this case where only TF's name is in the 'list'. "

The burden of proof lies with the person who is providing the goods or services. MPT has been on the scammer list in the past and has been removed, because he proved to be trust worthy.

TF is the one who has the ability to quickly and easily resolve this issue and has chosen to pretend that he is beyond reproach. 



Burden of proof is on the accuser.

You obviously have never owned a business or been involved in a legal dispute about services or undelivered/ unusable products.
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