Thanks for your support, it is really appreciated.

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Yes, i replied to your PM.

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Regarding the BCH we already replied and said that it will be added to the crowdsale funds, for the rest, it always depends on each investor's strategy. For my side, i know the price will rise, we won't "pump" it, nor try to manipulate it as it would be dishonest to buy it when it is low. However, it will be listed on coinpayments, i just had a talk with the team. I am recruiting someone to make a small exchange on the new NVO website, NVST/BTC. Also, there will be a small marketing action regarding the release of the NVO multi wallet, which will bring more users to the platform.
I am not really woried about the price, there is a consensus with the team about not to buy tokens on the DEX at a low price.

It is always good to encourage people on developing different tools, even if it already exist (preev.com), different providers are always good, and it is good for education and exercise purposes.

Good idea, but it would be better to request the convertion rate from the server instead of requesting infos from a provider on user side, just a side note.

I agree with most of what you say, especially regarding tax collections to maintain the infrastructures, this is one of the most important points forgotten by most of the decentralization supporters, how will the infrastructures be maintained.
The US will crack down because somewhere, the crypto community failed in educating the new comers, who get scammed by ICO operators, this lack of education about cryptocurrencies and the basics of cryptocurrencies left a wide open door to manipulation.

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If it was a centralized operation, then i agree with you, but in this case, the operations are decentralized, which means that every operation is under the responsibility of the ordinator, the user or Peer. If they target project initiators then it is a real bad news for US citizens and decentralization convicted users. I just wonder how the US will try to regulate the decentralized projects.

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That's what we are doing, we sent the demands and won't waste more time and energy on it, if they agree, so be it, else, we have to wait.
Regarding the ownership of the cryptocurrency accounts, you shouldn't forget that it is not limited to exchanges only, but all the service providers and third party services have the same limitations, as long as you don't own the private key of an address, or the seed of a wallet, it is not yours.

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Wise words, especially the first paragraph, i appreciate your point of view as it matches my own.
You are right about communication, however, i already said multiple times that i don't like other social medias, i feel a lot better in Bitcointalk, writing interesting posts and keeping them for future reference. Yani and Ton are active on slack, Yani is always talking with people on slack providing support and guidance.
Regarding the possible delays, we said that we will wait for safenet, and as promised, we will wait, meanwhile we check the different alternative options. Also, we don't want to have a competitive clone of NVO at the release while we haven't even been listed, this is why we are wating for patenting the project, it will still be open source, the reproduction will be limited, it will also bring a market advantage to NVO.
It is easy to fork a project on github or any other platform, it have to be taken in count.

It is all about the purpose, and what you mean by a blockchain project.
There are tons of blockchains, think about them like "templates" choose the one who is as close as possible to what you want to realise, adapt it, do the required changes, push them to a repository and start talking about it.
These are the basic steps.

Now deeper steps :
- Identify your needs, purpose, basically answer this question : why do you need a blockchain ?
- Reply to the second question : Is a blockchain required ?

If a blockchain is not required, you should check the different smart contract platforms :
- Ethereum (and its forks)
- EOS
- NEO
- counterparty (soon) (i)
(I don't know all the blockchains who supports smart contracts, i am sure there are more)
(i) : not a blockchain, it is a layer on bitcoin blockchain

If you need a blockchain then :
- What do want it to do ?
- How do you want it to do it ?
- Do you need a strong community ?
- Does it have to be fully or partially decentralized ? (possible)
Once you have the answers, comes the fun part :
- What do you need to build it ?
- What blockchain will you fork ?
- Will you create your own blockchain from the ground ?
All the answers lead to these questions :
- What language to use ?
- Is it enough supported ?
- Is it popular ?
- Do you need static or dynamic language ?
- Does it needs to protect your code ? (at least pseudo protect it)
Once done with these, the hardest part :
- Do you have the required knowledge to do it ?
- How many people do you need in your team to realise it ?
- How and Where will you find them ?
- What would be the optimal team size you aim ?
From there, the real work can start, then comes the questions about the release plan, will you do a crowdsale ? will you release it directly and announce a new blockchain with new services ? it is all up to you.

You can also use Bitgo (crazy about security) or coinpayments.net merchants integration.

If you want to go with your own integration, you will have to define the requirements, you have different ways to do it depending on the technologies and infrastructures of your service. You can either use your own bitcoin nodes, or create addresses and assign them using some tools (bitcoinjs-lib), you can also use electrum (python), or even use them all at the same time.

Some websites offer an API to create and manage wallets with reduced or 0 fees into the same wallet, like :
https://www.blockcypher.com/dev/bitcoin/#using-wallets

Depending on the size of your business, i think that you should check all these sollutions with your developer(s).

Bitcoinaverage is fine if you want to give a global rate, you can use different rates from different exchanges and let the users choose. It would be interesting to do a cron job to get an update of the price every minute and use it instead of sending a query on user side.
You should know that using bitcoin average means that in the case someone dumps bitcoin on a low volume exchange, you will get a fake rate, you should use the exchanges directly, here is a small list :

2    Bitfinex   BTC/USD    $246,667,000    $4033.70    6.54%    Recently
8    Bitstamp   BTC/USD    $95,266,300    $4029.13    2.53%    Recently
10    GDAX   BTC/USD    $88,622,400    $4047.97    2.35%    Recently
13    Gemini   BTC/USD    $68,539,600    $4054.49    1.82%    Recently
22    Kraken   BTC/USD    $41,966,200    $4065.99    1.11%    Recently
31    itBit   BTC/USD    $19,859,900    $4021.90    0.53%    Recently
34    BTCC   BTC/USD    $17,222,400    $4149.99    0.46%    Recently
52    CoinsBank   BTC/USD    $8,225,240    $3921.11    0.22%    Recently
61    HitBTC   BTC/USD    $6,678,150    $4036.67    0.18%    Recently
65    CEX.IO   BTC/USD    $6,003,540    $4192.98    0.16%    Recently
70    Gatecoin   BTC/USD    $5,597,830    $4100.10    0.15%    Recently
90    BTC-X   BTC/USD    $3,886,170    $4050.54    0.10%    Recently
98    xBTCe   BTC/USD    $3,540,630    $4023.40    0.09%    Recently
103    OkCoin Intl.   BTC/USD    $3,205,990    $4318.52    0.08%    Recently
118    BitBays   BTC/USD    $2,450,310    $4109.53    0.06%    Recently
133    Livecoin   BTC/USD    $2,081,400    $4050.00    0.06%    Recently
173    USD X   BTC/USD    $1,193,340    $3924.12    0.03%    Recently
181    BTC Alpha   BTC/USD    $1,070,170    $4035.00    0.03%    Recently
183    Exmo   BTC/USD    $1,058,320    $4015.00    0.03%    Recently
194    Gatehub   BTC/USD    $934,840    $3968.81    0.02%    Recently
210    DCExchange   BTC/USD    $688,478    $4057.30    0.02%    Recently
230    Bitstamp (Ripple Gateway)   BTC/USD    $591,542    $3852.28    0.02%    Recently
261    QuadrigaCX   BTC/USD    $450,369    $4149.99    0.01%    Recently
297    YoBit   BTC/USD    $276,304    $4080.52    0.01%    Recently
328    Lykke Exchange   BTC/USD    $215,453    $4178.93    0.01%    Recently
335    Bitex.la   BTC/USD    $200,568    $4050.00    0.01%    Recently
344    Fargobase   BTC/USD    $187,327    $4429.57    0.00%    Recently
380    LocalTrade   BTC/USD    $129,236    $4101.00    0.00%    Recently
390    BitMEX   BTC/USD    ** $365,317,000    $4050.60    0.00%    Recently
398    Quoine   BTC/USD    ** $277,953    $4061.68    0.00%    Recently

I got it from coinmarketcap, you can also directly use them to get an average rate.

Regarding the features, maybe you can add different currencies and widgets.

If it was just about paying to get listed, NVST would have already been listed in different exchanges. It is not about the fact of been listed, it is about the quality, the volume, the reputation, all these aspects have to be taken in count in order to provide the best access possible and a good protection agains manipulations. Even if exchanges like bittrex and poloniex doesn't really offers a protection against pump&dump, they are widely used which is a good counter weight.

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It is not that easy, needless to talk about the different aspects to check, the aim and objectives of the project have to be taken in count regarding the decisions, even if the community have a great role to play there.

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It is one of the aspects that have to be taken in consideration. We are focused on what have to do, and follow the priorities. I believe that everything will come in time.

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It depends of what you understand from Decentralization, or are you talking about us physically, in person ?

Effectively counterparty is slow but at least it decentralized and that's what i appreciate in counterparty.
About all these questions related to exchanges, we don't want to list the token on a "shitex", and the big exchanges are too busy with BCH and the regulations.
I am thinking about making a small exchange for NVST/BTC on the website untill NVO is ready. Will talk about that will Yani and Ton.

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We have already announced that we will stick to our engagements, we said that we will wait to get a final decision about safenet as they still have 3 months. If safenet isn't ready, we will have to go with a different technology as we can't delay the investors, people invested in NVO, not safenet.

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As long as bitcoin is used in X country, NVO will be available, it works the same way.

The exchanges are actually on a weired situation, most of them are aware of the SEC and the different US regulations, remember what recently happened to BTC-E, even if it haven't started from the SEC at least, they reached them outside borders.
I believe this is why Bitfinex is now refusing US customers. There are more regulations every day, different countries are trying or starting to regulate bitcoin and cryptocurrencies markets, this is a serious limitation for exchange listing. Even the ethereum tokens are under regulation threat.

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Please send me a PM with your issue, i will guide you.

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For the updates, i made a small preview video about the wallet, expect more from next week.
https://youtu.be/Tgb5Z1Zb5OM

Still waiting for the exchanges to reply.

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Yes, the decentralized exchanges and more globally, decentralized infrastructures are good for the cryptos.
As of now, Bitshares is the most competitive one, they support about 30 Coins, with a lot more assets. NVO wants to provide trading for more cryptocurrencies.

Most of the other decentralized exchanges are like Waves DEX, which can be compared to counterparty, i mean internal exchanges using proxy tokens or other processes.

NVO won't create assets.

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There are so many different wallets, each one provides its own features and design.
The wallet will support many features, advanced and basic features for the different users.

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Happy to hear it.

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@knepala Thanks for helping cart, it is definitly what i love to see in the communities.
@cart sorry for not been available earlier.

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Counterparty and Etheredelta are similar, they both trade assets built on a blockchain. NVO wants to allow trading of assets (counterparty, waves, ethereum ...) and coins (BTC, ETH, WAVES ...).
I totally agree that, user experience have to be the most important point to consider, however, it is not that easy to provide a technology or software that is easy to use, functional, bug free.
Some users can exchange on counterparty DEX without any problem, some others can't, it depends on what you are used to. If you trade only on centralized exchanges you will be pissed off by the high latency of counterparty DEX. If you are a decentralization or crypto addict, you will handle it.

@witek I preferred to leave you at the weekend so that you can reflect on what is happening, and question yourself. To reply to your previous message, you still made the mistake of diluting information which is dishonest, you wanted to compare the traffic of enjin to that of bitcointalk, both platforms are entirely different. Bitcointalk is a forum, Enjin is a gaming platform. You could have also compared the traffic of a big bank to Enjin's traffic and see that even if Enjin has a better traffic, the bank generates real revenue, whereas you do not.

I preferred to compare Enjin to other game platforms, Enjin is almost twice lower in rank compared to others.

I have a question to ask you, you want to have the game developers use enjin in order to launch their games on the Enjin platform, tell me about a single profitable game that consulted you and that you launched and especially who is in the TOP 50 of the MMOs (I did not say the first 10). Because you say that game developers will consult Enjin in order to launch their product while you do not have enough traffic.

What investors will gain apart from a rapid devaluation of the price. Your company works with hypes, we understand that you have taken advantage of the hype of minecraft to gain in traffic and users, you want to do the same thing with ethereum to make you money, listing a token for 40-50 $ M is way too much, and it is your own token and your own platform.

Why don't you implement ethereum directly as you will have to do it regardless of the token as you will need node communications with Ethereum, it would have been more interesting for you to implement cryptos directly and bring them on your platform, and then, develop your smart contracts and token, it would have been more professional and adapted. While you go directly for a crowdsale and token, which shows the wish for easy gains which is verifiable.

The loss will be covered by the tokens distribution to your partners in order to help with the token adoption.

I will give you the example of a smart person, have a look at bitdice.me They are excellent, very fluid, you may find 50-100 people connected simultaneously, and yet they have a current profit of 2300 BTC, they have a Reputation on the forum. After gradually adding the cryptos to the platform they decided to launch an ICO to transform the platform and evolve to a new form, but they have a long experience in cryptos.

In the end, this ICO serves only to your team without any real counterpart to the investors.

Thanks

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Thanks, but counterparty isn't a DEX only, it is a superb project, i know you don't mean to be bad. They open a wide world of development, plus thanks to the decentralization, they are the only ones who supports trading of NVST #satoshinakamoto

Some guys wanted to insult NVO saying that we are not working, doing nothing, and that i spend my time on Bitcointalk and that i do nothing during my days. Just to show that we are moving, i decided to release a "Preview" video, i don't want to unveil everything right now, as the project will be open sourced, it have to be protected first in order to keep the advantage and to avoid possible scam attempts by forking the repo.

Preview video :

https://youtu.be/Tgb5Z1Zb5OM

I forgot to mention, i though about Stratis because of your c# dev, it have nothing to do with Solidity (ethereum). Once again, i never needed your developer for NVO, maybe you understand now why i said Stratis, regarding bitcoin, it is in C++, most of the c# devs know about c++.

You are insulting by pretending that i pay people, lauda, cryptodevil, even this guy, i never heard about. As a community member everyone checks for the different project, it is the proff of everyone's experience on the forum, for enjin you had to buy an account who was supposed to post images, and now you play the different accounts, it is ridiculous, and disordered.
Lauda and Cryptodevil are some of the forum's pioneers, Lauda is in D2, it is not that easy to get that rank in bitcointalk, and have been a moderator in this forum, Lauda have a long experience of the crypto world, he is one of the operators of the IRC channel #bitcoin to let you have an idea about his importance in the crypto world.

Regarding your developers, i never asked for your help for NVO, we don't need it and NVO is going well, you want to compare our projects ? even the most famous exchanges wants to be decentralized because of the regulation and all the problems brought with it. NVO works the same way, a fully decentralized project, like Bitcoin. While Enjin is an ERC20 token working for a centralized company, we spoke about the price of the TOS, I gave an approximation as it is not my domain, and you corrected me on that point and i agreed with you. On my side, on a decentralized point of view, you don't need a TOS when you download a decentralized client, as you don't need TOS when you download the Bitcoin client.

I asked to know the languages used by your developer in order to give guidances about the right technology to use, to fork, libraries, daemons communications ... I was even ready to support financially this developer with my personal funds as long as it is for a good decentralized project. As everyone in this forum, or people who know well the cryptos will tell you that it is far better to work with a fully decentralized platform instead of a token, or a semi-centralized process.

Have a look at NVO : https://youtu.be/Tgb5Z1Zb5OM

I made this video for you, we are far above in the technology and advancement, you want to list an ERC20 token on your centralized platform, so you ask people to help you list your token, on your platform, it is totally banal. Even compared to your competitors, other gaming platforms.

Faceit : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/faceit.com
Enjin : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/enjin.com

You can check the difference, i am not talking about steam, in this case, enjin is looking for the game developers, and the reverse. Enjin said that it took advantage of the Minecraft hype which explains the growth, but at the same time, you have a lot of games with about 2M users, which means that it is not reliable for the game developers, they will better sign with platforms who can bring 20M users to their game.
You had 2M unique visitors over a month, the question is, how many simultaneous gamers are using your platform, or, do you have enough simultaneous players in order to attract the interest of the next game developers.

The coin who have to be used to buy items and other stuff have a too high price. You can check faceit who already have experience with that, gloves worth 5$ are sold for 10k face, which sets the price around 0.0005$. And as i said, they have a better experience in that field, needless to mention that your users will need ethereum in their wallet which complicates it more.
Since you decided to move from 66% to 80%, it rises the collected amount to around 32M, your 20% are not included in the calculation i think you should list it on yobit and forget about it, it is the most expencive token listing i ever seen in my life.

Understand that this community have a brain. I don't advise you to insult reputable members of the community, you bought an account, you are new, it is not a problem, but don't insult people.

The website have been updated a long time ago regarding the address, when it have been announced.

Have fun newbie enjin team scam supporter.

Blazed and Minerjones are excellent escrows, you can't say that Lauda is easily manipulated, never bring him down again. It is just that Lauda unveiled a lot of scam projects, this is why many people doesn't appreciate him.

The address is updated on the website. But as we haven't finished exchanging the other coins, we wait to get the final result to announce it publicly.

Feel free to verify it : 354jirex7gkFxMiNmN45SxyMxSUsdGcrsf

For the rest, i came from bitcointalk, i am a bitcointalk member, i was a bitcointalk member a long time before been engaged into NVO, i am feeling home here, i know that many projects came to bitcointalk, made money, and went out.

Also, when i work, i use a computer, bitcointalk is constantly open so it doesn't bother with my time. I also have friends on the forum with whom we exchange about different issues using PMs, so i have to check it often.

I said the escrows will confirm the information later. However, you will excuse me if i ignore you, you don't know what you are talking about, maybe you are maxim, because you think like him, a newbie in the cryptoworld who doesn't know what he is talking about.

@NewProject

Hopefuly you posted the question on the NVO thread, i replied there.

Regarding the second part, i will ignore your posts as you constantly go off topic. You are a newbie, you don't know much even if you act like you know more, no problem.


@WitekRadomski

Ethereum is huge, vast, and i know the technology is really strong, a lot of features. You want ot use a small shard of it, an ERC20 token, with smart contracts. A side chain is a blockchain who can generate coins and smart contracts with different features.

Blockstream is Bitcoin, it is the best technology you will find around, 455 collaborators on github.

Let me resume what you offer in term of development with Enjin.

You want to list a token on your centralized platform for several millions of dollars. This is what i can't understand, it is your token and you imagine he have many functions while it is more limited compared to what you describe, without your false imagination you need the help of several investors to list your token on your platform, who is centralized.

No need to talk about the API or SDK development, the documentations are already done and provided by the ethereum community, you can also find cheatsheets on the decentralized ethereum exchanges.

The thing is that i don't see why does you required this amount while nothing you bring nothing, i know the reply, both you and maxim told me that it is to take advantage of the Ethereum hype.

You say that you are working on the specs of the smart contract, you can't go too far into its development as there are many limitations, you can't weigh the blockchain, it won't be usable, after a moment, you could reach hash collusion points. A smart contract is a tiny shard of the blockchain. However, in your whitepaper, you give blockchain features, thows we spoke about, while you use a tiny shard of what the blockchain have to offer which is impossible to realise.

Which resumes it to, several millions, to list your token on your platform.

Simply because everyone is on slack, Ton and Yani are constantly connected and available there, and me i am constantly on Bitcointalk with my lovely community.
They haven't blocked me, they asked me for advises, and i told since the very begining they were going to scam people, read carefully the posts.
Don't try to dillute the informations, at the first contact, when we spoke at 3am i told them they were scamers, the second day they came telling me yes, we checked the blockchains, they said they contacted the stratis team. This is why i decided to reply again.

Witek was in a plain when i spoke to him, he was very excited by the ideas we spoke about, he was supposed to meet Ton, but after that they dissapeared, dilluted the ideas i gave using an ERC20 token.
Can you understand when someone tells you, yes i want to take advantage of the ethereum hype.

When you ask if it is to develop something, he don't know what to say, this is why i said that Enjin is a scam, as on the development  side, the responses have been poor. I know that Ethereum is a huge technology, they took a tiny shard of it, just the ERC20 feature, the original objective was 50M$, to do what ? To list a token on their platform, saying that they won't bother with the decentralized nature of the token while providing a semi-centralized solution to use it is a poor explanation.

Listing a token on an exchange isn't expencive, but to list their token on their platform costs millions of dollars, is it normal ? Enjin is a scam because of this behaviour.