Welcome to the NVO thread, generally i like to ridiculise people like you, i don't know why you brought this here. Effectively Enjin is off topic in this thread. I said that Enjin is a scam, and i proved it different times. It have already been announced : Informational: BTC funds have been moved to a new address using the same setup as before. The new address is: 3QV4kZtdzE8S2XdYXMbYQrgaJYBfDnypCC.
The rest of the funds, ETH ETC DOGE XRP had been consolidated and they are been exchanged for bitcoin on exchanges, it have been announced. The Maidsafecoins (held by CPS) haven't been sold, it have been consolidated and kept by CPS as the coin is too fragile for now, it would dump it and it is not our objective. - 30% release at the end of the crowdsale.
- 30% at the delivery of the beta wallet and first API Cluster
- 30% At the delivery of the Beta Validator
- 10% At the delivery of the plugin system
The funds won't be released until the escrows
agree that a milestone has been reached
As you can see, the team was supposed to withdraw 30% at the end of the crowdsale, but only 9% have been withdrawn, to tell that the money isn't our main interest and we don't want to play with the investor's funds. Regarding the github account, yes, it will be empty untill the launch as some people are really interested with the technology and want to use it. I had a lot of contacts with people who wanted to use this technology, and as i said that NVO should keep its advantage, i decided to patent the technology, while keeping it open sourced. It is mostly to avoid doing scams using the project. Alex is in charge of finding the right lawyers for that, and as we partener with CPS, i can definitly tell you it will be decentralized with very interesting technologies, as we said during the crowdsale that we will deliver a plugin for CPS. CPS is already a very good payment processor, but it will be the best one. The target is to be better than paypal as they tax you a lot, and is centralized. Regarding the withdrawals, the escrows will be able to confirm soon. Do not insult NVO, Enjin is an ERC20 token, centralized, made to take advantage of the ethereum hype. I wonder what is the nature of your account, Thread pumping ? troling ? You write like Witek, even on your thread i noticed that Jakob(the bought accont) talks the first, then Witek, then Maxim, you spend your time creating new accounts ? I advise you to stop ridiculising yourself. |
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Here is part of what scared our entire team off from working with him:   His behavior on Skype video was rude, constant cursing at us while trying to force the project in his own direction. By chance, I was passing through the city which Ton (NVO founder) lives and I was planning to have an in-person meeting with him, but after our team did some background checks on NEMGUN we decided it was best to focus our resources elsewhere. Giving us some vague messages from a Skype chat with the sole reason of depicting someone as a bad person is just not enough. Things can easily be taken out of context. Especially if you had a lengthy conversation. The very action of burring posts that try to resolve some issues with your project instead of providing answers that would prove them wrong in front of your entire community indicated about the possible intentions of your CEO. https://enjincoin.io/enjincoin_whitepaper.pdfAlso you've got a book instead of whitepaper, where are the protocol, where are the details on how will your project work? So instead going personal, and fighting valued members of bitcointalk community, prove us you're having a technical team, and explain us how will you integrate ethereum tokens into a gaming platform? I trusted them because in the video call we had, the CTO told me that it was effectively idiot to use the ethereum hype and screw the reputation of enjin, and that maxim mistakenly choosed that path as he wanted to get the funds from it, he said he will talk with him about that idea knowing that it is as bad and dishonest behaviour. In my message you will notice that i have been asked for advises and ideas, i don't try to force anyone to do anything, the unique condition is not to act like a scam, and to provide a viable project. They offered to give me tokens, i refused, i don't do that for money, i do it for the community because i want cryptos to grow and be more accepted. Try not to accuse people without viable informations. This is the discussion in its real context :  I have been called around 3AM the day before, i was drunk, they started to talk about ethereum, i explained them that when someone releases an ICO without offering anything in return it is called a scam. What is the definition of a scam ? A scam is a result of a scheme made to gather funds from people by offering something in return, or by offering nothing. In the case of a return offer, the team may be honest, while been scaming people because of the weakness of the project itself, been unable to deliver, Or by endangering the community and the users. A scam doesn't means that you want to take money from people only, but that you created a scheme in order to gather as much as possible, and using these funds for different purposes. A scam is about dishonest behaviour of the team. The word scam means a lot of things, for example, in these screens you can see that their main concern is to protect the team, not the users :   I said that the best would be to provide a TOS who protects both the users and the team, as a concern for the users due to the rapid changes in the political scene of the cryptos. As i said, my main concern is about protecting the community while they don't seem to care about them, the crowdsale seems to be built to serve Enjin only. People like escrows, and old members of the community like Lauda and Cryptodevil are here to protect the community, as a proof, you haven't taken the time to understand the community and the mechanisms, you had to buy an account to post images, you are not even part of this community. So please, try to be more professional and respectfull when you express yourself. |
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Let me give you some details, some games gives you the ability to host your private servers. The actual architecture described in the whitepaper shows that you will need to integrate into their platform in order to run the contracts, you will need their public API platform as you won't need to use WEB3 extension. Which means the project is centralized, and this is why i say this project in his actual state cannot go really far.
Knowing the state of the gaming industry, 2 million gamers are nothing in a gaming platform, it is like for the exchange, originally people though they were decentralized while they used decentralized coins. It would have been more intelligent to create a blockchain with an API talking to a daemon instead of using an API who will communicate with a platform, who will then communicate with a daemon, which means that it is not decentralized. They used the ideas i spoke about, and used it with an ERC20 token, and i don't appreciate that.
Alright, finally we can talk about something interesting: The Platform API is there to provide small bits of semi-centralized functionality that enhance but don't override or diminish the decentralized nature of Enjin Coin -- those advantages of the blockchain that everyone here is familiar with. We come from a background of developing an online social network platform used by large numbers of people. We understand that for blockchain technology to really go mainstream, it needs to be extremely easy to use. The Platform API allows wallets to translate information between a centralized game and blockchain tokens. We can put the cryptographic hashes into the background and develop a user interface that meaningfully interacts with the video game. The users will be presented with a brilliantly simple and familiar experience, customized to the games they play. Since the popular games are centralized, they provide some of their human-readable data and notifications from a centralized source, but it doesn't affect the decentralized nature of Enjin Coin and all assets created with it. On your second point: The Platform API can be implemented in the game server daemon, it does not necessarily need to be a separate API. We are going to provide some reference APIs that can be adapted in either way. The powerful thing here is that you can choose to implement an API for your network of game servers, or serve it directly from 1 lone game server. Enjin will be hosting our own Platform API to cover our website network, but other gaming services & developers can serve and customize it however they like. Some cool features of the Platform API: - The "player" identity data format is very customizable, game developers can implement it in creative ways suited to their game. We've tried to anticipate many forms of strange game player types; ranging from single player/character names, to hive-mind AIs with collections of wallets and complex attributes and no singular identity (
 ). - Games and platforms that share character data types may come to a consensus on the official player data format, and allow players to sync their data across platforms.
- It will expose some useful blockchain data as JSON to be fed into websites (for example, showing your "guild bank account" in a web widget).
- Create true decentralized subscriptions, and notify the end-user (wallet) about the subscription terms to be accepted. These will then be enforced over time directly between the user wallet and smart contracts.
Finally, the games themselves will use our Enjin Coin SDK which can connect to Ethereum directly, but again the Platform API is used for certain operations like sending out push notifications. Like I said above, this can be hosted on the game server itself or in a central location used by related game servers (for example, like the Blizzard API or Mojang Minecraft API is structured). Witek, please answer Cryptodevil, you are the CTO (Chief Technical officer, lead developer, main developer ...) of Enjin not the CEO and not a promoter as I spoke about development and you replied with promotions. You are good at deriving from the main topic. I have been censored when i posted the same questions, and now it is interesting. Let's respect the OP, answer his questions, we will talk about development later as i don't want to ridiculise your explanation. let's get back to the OP's concerns. |
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@NewProject, i will be off topic for a moment, i would like to welcome you in bitcointalk, i like to greet the new members even if you are not that new. Yes i have different things to do like bringing technologies to the cryptocurrencies. From your point of view i am trolling, and i understand it, it may be due to your lack of experience. As you said, everything can stop, the cryptos can fail at the moment we let cryptos run for hypes only, using them as a mean to get money from people. Regarding the statements of Enjin, they are based in Singapor which means they are less bothered by laws and regulations which is not the case of their users. You should know that organisms like the SEC in USA wants to protect the investors, even my project was almost confronted. Do you know also that today, the SEC is regulating the Ethereum blockchain because of the excessive amount of ICOs on that blockchain, i hope that you understand that every member of the community have to protect it, cryptos born, rise, and die because of the community. Knowing this crowdsale wants to take advantage of the ethereum hype, shown on my preceeding posts, i prefer that cryptodevil does investigations, and reports scam projects like what he did regarding BTC-E, it is an exchange who owns KYC from many users in the community, it ended like a scam, a centralized company who was one of the oldest exchanges. The grand question is, does bitcoin, Ethereum, or Litecoin already scamed someone ? It is mathematically impossible to find a scam accusation towards these blockchains, while the ERC20 tokens are constantly accused of such behaviour as they are operated by unexperimented people. Regarding this point, blockchains a monetary development, while Enjin takes advantage of a montary speculation which is totally different. If you notice in the screen, i said to Witek "After that you will talk with your CEO and tell him that ...." have a closer look at the message, i permited myself to talk like that, to give orders, and they even wanted to come and meet my team as they knew that their original idea was a scam, and was about taking advantage of a hype like i said in the same message. Lauda and Cryptodevil replies to everyone, this is why they are trusted, these are the essence of decentralization because they act for decentralization and the welfare of everyone. As you lack knowledge in development, decentralization and after that in affairs, business, ask questions, no need to give judgements, you will learn a lot more. One of the founders of this forum was satoshi nakamoto, made it for developers. Investing is your sole right, warning is my sole right. Also, i wanted to specify that bitcointalk is shaded from their website since the begining.  Which is a censorship continuity while they launch a signature campaign and invest funds there. |
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@NewProject, I have nothing to do with gaming, i haven't looked for them nor tried to engage contact with them, NVO isn't related. I have been contacted to give advises on Enjin, the first question i asked was about ERC20, was it for the hype of ethereum ? or because they had an ethereum community. I always reply to anyone interested in cryptocurrencies, i love cryptos, bitcoin, and i use to be consulted. when ever i feel a scam attitude or project, i always warn not to go on that path. I didn't wanted to post the discussions, but as Enjin did, let me follow :  - On these messages you can see that i said to Witek that originally they made a project for money, while with that idea, it was going to be an excellent project. He wanted to meet me in Algeria and i told him that it wouldn't be easy because of Visa requirements, he then said that he will meet ton. we don't know what happened meanwhile, Ton waited for them, we were even worried about Witek thinking that something may hapened to him. No more contacts after that. After that, i saw them using the ideas we spoke about, with an ERC20 token while game developers doesn't need them to do it, a game developer will directly integrate with ethereum instead, releasing his own token without been bound to any platform. I don't feel ofended or anything like that, as a member of bitcointalk i wanted to protect my community and warn her about that. You can check my old posts, i use to help a lot of people on the development threads, i always acted like that with everyone. Again, i will always help any project providing something beneficial to the crypto community. Let me give you some details, some games gives you the ability to host your private servers. The actual architecture described in the whitepaper shows that you will need to integrate into their platform in order to run the contracts, you will need their public API platform as you won't need to use WEB3 extension. Which means the project is centralized, and this is why i say this project in his actual state cannot go really far. Knowing the state of the gaming industry, 2 million gamers are nothing in a gaming platform, it is like for the exchange, originally people though they were decentralized while they used decentralized coins. It would have been more intelligent to create a blockchain with an API talking to a daemon instead of using an API who will communicate with a platform, who will then communicate with a daemon, which means that it is not decentralized. They used the ideas i spoke about, and used it with an ERC20 token, and i don't appreciate that. And when you doubts about a project, you contact people like cryptodevil, one of the users who are helping to keep bitcointalk clean. Just check his signature, please take the time to understand bitcointalk before accusing anyone of been biased. |
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are you maybe talking about a polybius or the like, decentralized?
In my opinion, when NVO other projects will be announced you should do a new ico with a NVST ERC20 token,
exchanging old NVST for a fixed amount and selling also to new investors.
you'll get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Nice idea, but i am totally opposed to the abuse of ERC20 tokens and NVO is enough funded. Regarding Plybius, i think it is centralized as they ask for KYC. Decentralized means loosing controle, no server, P2P, possible new mining for decentralized banking. If the launch of NVO goes well, we will have enough from fees. |
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We processed the third distribution row, most of them are people of sent from exchanges. If you have been contacted by marto(Yani) please check your addresses, you will find your tokens.
If you want to have a better idea about the remaining amount of tokens, please visit : http://nvo.party
This website isn't affiliated to NVO, it have been create by community members.
97% of the tokens are distributed now.
Update for NVO : We added two secondary architectures to NVO, we are focusing on NVO. The result of the two other architectures is the decentralization of Coinpayments, which is a decentralized payment processor (maybe the first) and a real decentralized bank, i can't give the name of the project nor give more informations as it is a parallel team. this is why i focus so much on the technology of NVO as it will offer a lot of services in the future.
-Will you be working with shapeshift? -Does your wallet which acts as entry point of DEX not already in a way behave as a decentralized bank? Hello, working with shapeshift ? It will depend of them. There is a huge difference between a DEX and DexBank, mostly about products, but it is not the time to talk about it.
Yet still i haven't received my tokens  Recheck, you received them.
I have invested 1 ETH in NVO ICO. When I was Logging in there was 1 ETH in Etherium section. NOW it's 0, can enyone tell me where my ETH is ...
The funds have been consolidated, which means they are stored in a single address instead of several separated addresses. The altcoins are on a pending for exchange state, once done, they will be sent to the escrow address. The team withdrawed 9% of the bitcoins, this is why the altcoin addresses are empty. In order to verify your tokens, please search for your personal bitcoin address in https://xchain.io
i cannot swipe the tokens through the xcp wallet im stuck at "mport token funds by "sweeping" them from an external address into an address in this wallet.
Preparing output for transactions chaining"
i need help please!
Hello, you can use an alternative : https://github.com/Jpja/Sweep-XCP-PaperwalletAlso have a look at this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYqIOKlyusThe most important is to : Token name: NVST Amount : have to be the exact amount of tokens (max creates issues sometimes) BTC mining fees : We advise to set it 0.0008BTC BTC dust : better leave it as is If you still experience issues, please join us on slack. Thank you so much. I see mine now. However, can I transfer them to a wallet once you are done with creating one? Thanks Yes, it is the objective. |
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Good job, just two profiles to prove and answer the rest of the questions, like the 14% who are realocated so quickly and the impact of that decision regarding the long term goals you had about the distribution, and if it affects the original vision or not.
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Maxime, you would have left Witek talking, he is better then you when it comes to avoid questions, while you, in two posts you proved the project is a scam. I will quote all your messages and show you that each one is close to a scam definition. That means the pictures you brough doesn't belongs to them, nor even the names.   Chris goes from a support to QA/community manager, you should have put Lilia at this position as she is the support manager.   This one is most coherent profile, yet he doesn't have a picture, i love the simpsons too, but even his name doesn't exist.   Lilia goes from Support manager to Marketing/operations, you are right, womens are better in marketing, that's right (conceived idea), sadly she doesn't exists in the social medias. As you said, they are pseudonames and fake pictures that you puted here (check the quote) as their real names are generally not used in public social medias. 1st Scam, stealing pictures from people who are real, identity theft. 7 years of support, they are just profiles. Usually the supports never stay for too long there, they use to be changed really often, which lets me thinking they are just profiles created by Enjin to assume a task, but as you puted them in crowdsale, it is a double scam as they are robots profiles. I also offered Cryptodevil an invite to a call with the team on voice or video multiple times and he ignored me regarding that. There is more simple, you could ask Lilia, Brad, Chris to say "Hello world" in a video and publish it. CryptoDevil, If you are genuine about this, then I'm more than happy to arrange a call with the team and yourself. Stop acting like Golum, asking for a private conference call. Even your supporters are asking for a public video and you are still asking for something private. Another note. I'm going to take on-board your criticism regarding the 66% offered to the crowd sale. We've discussed this with our team and advisors over the last few weeks and decided to change the crowdsale percentage to 80%. More details will be posted shortly regarding that.
We can also discuss the new changes we're making regarding % of tokens dedicated to the crowd sale as you had some relevant suggestions on that topic. What is that delirium, you go from 66% to 80% so easily, who is this crypto adviser ? You will loose credibility, and thanks cryptodevil for pointing to that. Conclusion triple scam, just for these histories of %, you want to play with people's money. You are worst than joffrey in game of thrones, you send Witek to reply, and then you post non sence behinde him to show your authority with what you posted, you confirmed the shady behaviour of Enjin. Neg bomb is coming. |
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Now, we are planning features for a number of new games, and we're working on some huge updates to the CMS platform, this includes Enjin Coin, a new frontend, and more updates to our mobile apps. We're here for the long game - we love gaming, and we are trying to innovate by bringing a blockchain item platform to gamers. Talking about blockchain again, exchanging items on your platform with tokens and smart contracts. You can't say that you are a blockchain item platform, you are a token who doesn't realise that functions. Regarding the traffic, i find it weired that you don't track your apps traffic, especially when you want to centralize a decentraliazed system. |
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So after painfully reading each user's long spiel (Do you guys really have to write whole page essays as responses?), there's three main points I've summed it down to.
1) Due to a gradual decrease in the size of your userbase in the last three years, it is tiny compared to what it used to be.
- I can't really say anything here, and I have not looked into it. Minecraft was still pretty big in 2014, though.
2) Deleting negative posts in Ann threads
- I admit, this is bad, and I can see why thulis would be a cause for concern. But now if he's answering questions here, I don't think this is a worry as long as proper communication is made, not just accusations and insults.
3) Having team members with very small names online, if any.
- Witek seems to have addressed the problem by offering to do a call IRL.
I'll pause the campaign if this gets out of hand or is drawn too far out of hand.
Thanks for your reply, i will remove the untrust as soon as it is doable. I think that you just neglegted the fact that you should have the controle of the signature thread, as a bought account deleted messages you were supposed to manage.
Hi guys, CTO of Enjin Coin here. We are being open and thoughtful about our coin and I welcome productive criticism and feedback. You guys seem to care about the direction of the project, based on 30 days of constant posting on our threads. But we draw the line when there is clear trolling and toxic behavior. I would like to explain why NEMGUN is upset: I spoke to him over a couple of days on video chat, thinking NVO might help us do our crowdsale. After a few interactions, we noticed some disturbing behavior from him and decided it was best not to work with this person. I understand rejection is upsetting, and that NVO wanted to use Enjin Coin as an example for their own project, but it is difficult to understand NEMGUN's aggression. Here is part of what scared our entire team off from working with him: His behavior on Skype video was rude, constant cursing at us while trying to force the project in his own direction. By chance, I was passing through the city which Ton (NVO founder) lives and I was planning to have an in-person meeting with him, but after our team did some background checks on NEMGUN we decided it was best to focus our resources elsewhere. I understand that his feelings were perhaps hurt, however his present behaviour leaves us confident we made the correct choice. Now that this has been cleared up... I am perfectly clear about the direction and goals of our project. If you present clear, distilled arguments about why you believe this will fail, I'll be happy to respond. We are open minded and honestly want to build Enjin Coin to be a practical decentralized asset platform for gamers. I am currently designing the technical specifications for all our smart contracts and Platform API. We have a team of experienced blockchain developers and advisors working with us, who will help guide all concepts and audit all contracts. I'm 100% open to discuss logical, coherent arguments. If this devolves into trolling, then I'll remove myself from the thread. Until then, let's discuss. I don't understand your behaviour, first don't talk about NVO, it is not related. Then stop quoting messages from skype, i could start that game too and it could be hard, like how related to scam ver you are, or when maxime said he wanted to take advantage of the ethereum hype whom i said it was a scammy behaviour. We have a team of experienced blockchain developers and advisors working with us, who will help guide all concepts and audit all contracts. As you have this kind of specialits, why do you go for a Token instead of a blockchain ? that's the question i answered since the very begining. A 12 years old geek could create a smart contract. Instead of talking about me, you should answer the concerns risen by the OP directly, i am not supposed to be the cause of flaws/fails of your company. Also, i didn't felt upset because of rejection, not even upset at all, i have been a stress for you because i clearly stated that your strategy was a scamish strategy. Do you know how many persons consult me for their ICOs and projects ? Do you know how often a refuse because they use strategies like yours ? Please answer the questions, don't use me as a scapegoat. I also have another question, i never heard of any blockchain developer who doesn't have a bitcointalk account, you could have used his account to post the announcement instead of buying one. I have a history, most of it is in the development section of the forum. |
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First of all, thank you cryptodevil for your investigation, it is good to see BTCT community active to protect its members. They have been introduced to me on skype, maxime the CEO clearly told me he wants to take advantage of the ethereum hype as i told them that their decision is a no sence. Then they took my ideas to hide their scam, i though they will use stratis or elements or even create their own blockchain, sorry for that. This project sounds non logical, i don't imagine guys who args getting millions a month to integrate a token on their platform. That means they will have to stop using FIATS on their platform, and use their token instead, or its value will be low. Risking their users for a token ? it doesn't seems logical. Needless to talk about the frequentation of the platform, it is indeed sinking, they advertise 18 Million users while only 2 millions are active (over a month). This project is about creating a smart contract, getting money, selling the platform and leaving it. Instead of lying about the team members, they could have said, the tokens will go to the Enjin Team, no need to lie about that. As a result, they want to keep coins to play pump and dump. Saying they will distribute tokens to their partners (big companies as they said) is stupid, are they bounty hunters ? are they serious about that ? It is like offering tokens to trusted members of bitcointalk to promote a project, most of the time they refuse. I let you read my two other posts, for fun and memmory : First, you are not game devs, you are a service platform. I risk to bring you down on the intellectual level if you keep ongoing. Are you Minecraft ? are you DOTA ? are you CSGO ? to say that Enjin Coin could be implemented into games, i think that what you are saying is that the future game developers who have an interest into Altcoins and cryptocurrencies would come and use your token and your platform while they could simply create their own token, providing their own ressources. Why would they use Enjin instead of going for a custom sollution ? You don't have the required weight in the gaming industry, you are a service provider. Creating skins, using them with a smart contract or a token, rise did something similar a year ago, they have been well financed but the project died. Skin coin isn't worth to mention. These are mostly a hype because any intelligent developer would ask himself first "can i develope my smart contract (or token) the way i want ?", as you are scraping the surface about the token, let me response in a development side, and i already told you about it, you responded saying that the token is for money only (which annoyed me). Once you put a smart contract on the blockchain you are limited, have a look at this link : https://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2404/upgradeable-smart-contractsWhy skincoin isn't worth talking about (so does enjin) ? Because nothing will ever guanrantee that a deal will be respected by the seller side, unless a blockchain can upload graphics (which will be soon totally impossible because 4K) your system will be centralized. The other thing is that people doesn't need enjin to create a smart contract, you could have talked about a new protocole (like XCP) instead of a smart contract, it would have provided more integration sollutions, by the way we are still two talking here, that's why i ask you to lock the thread. Maybe Enjin have financial issues and that's the reason why you do a crowdsale. As i said, it is ridiculous and you hsould lock this thread as you would get your name dirty after that. Stop looking for money like Gollum. I know that crowdsales are exciting for many people, with the return expectations, but you hsould think about the return you are going to provide, in this case, the project is simply dead because of the ERC20 token. Ethereum did smart contracts to enhance the services and rely on the blockchain's immutability,in this case, you talk about development while you are in services. Next time please, get more documentation before launching a project, because as far as i can see, there is no research here. And you act like scamers pushing people towards investing everything in the first day in order to close it early. Give time to people, they need to think, to consider every aspect, to do their own researches. It is not because you saw a lot of crowdsales closing after a bunch of hours that it is really something good to do, you hsouldn't compare yourself to them, these guys started talking about their projects months before starting the crowdsale, and they have highly well made and though project, with months of sleepless nights, while you come in and talk about been expects since X years, empty barrels make more noise than full barrels, your whitepaper is empty. Seriosuly, lock the thread, it is shame to launch a thread like this one. If you made a fork, it would have attracted a lot of people, and we would have all waited for yobit listing to dump it, that's sad. With the actual structure, the crowdsale reminds me of :  s ucky, sucky, 5 dollars, crowdsale ends in 8 hours !
Ming Lee, CartmanOh c'mon, you copied my personality or what ? NVOsaid that it will support MaidSafe, and now you say that you will probably support Raiden. There is only one difference, Dirvine has confirmed that we contacted them and are willing to work together. No Raiden contributor confirmed about what you stated. I told you about Stratis and Blockstream (NVO uses CounterParty) , which is maybe the only interesting point into your reply, for the rest, it is only blabla. Cryptocurrencies are moving towards decentralization, and you talk about a smart contract (which is decentralized) linked to a centralized authority, that's amazing, why don't you just deal with the FIATS as they are already centralized, why don't you keep them ? Do not be hypocritical. Don't worry Witek, i will teach you a small lesson soon. However, i still believe that enjin is a scam, this is why i tell you to delay it for the next year and think about a really good idea, not something to scam people. I made a pretty long post on the (not yet active) subreddit, but I'll put down a few of my major concerns here, too: How could you possibly integrate EnjinCoin, a cryptocurrency asset on the Ethereum blockchain, to your community, which are largely children? How will you see adoption when, beyond this, the people investing in this coin are not the same people who will be using it. (Minecraft gamers and crypto investors don't mix much. Look at all the failed Minecraft Crypto servers). Why are you paying the team with 18% (yikes!) of ENJ supply, as well as paying them through ICO sales? Double paying? IF ENJ is widely adopted by your millions of users, who is paying the ETH transaction? Kids would be wanting to send a few dollars back and forth all the time. That doesn't work with current fees.
Most importantly, why make your own currency? Why not partner with GameCredits, who is already seeking to achieve just this?
As of the development side, i think that they are already down. However, your feedback about the Ethereum transactions is really interresting, i am really pleased to see real legendaries in bitcointalk, it starts to be rare. I can't imagine a young user demanding his father for a bittrex account (or poloniex) to buy Ethereum which will have to be withdrawed to another exchange to buy this non-sence coin in order to withdraw it again (while paying fees for each step) to finally send it to the Enjin platform, and loose on fees again. All this process should happen in about 20 minutes minimum which is far enough for his friends to finish a game and leave it before than he is able to arrive. As they are scaming young people on their platform, they think they can scam people on BTCt too, by the way, they are based in Singapor which is the reason why they don't gime much interest to the legal sides. And i have a hwole discusion about that from skype, they better focus on TOS to protect themselfs instead of the users. Also, i don't understand why someone making 1Million$/month would run a crowdsale for a token, especially into the same platform, you could have sold shares of the company instead as it would have been a lot more interesting for the investors. Ah ! i forgot that you don't care about the legal sides, you are the kind of letting your investors selling their tokens to young users, really, the project is really nice, rushing the crowdsale to get funds. I wonder what the volume will be, the best skin is usually sold for 14$, i can't image a whale negociating with a child for 14$. Totally awkwarkd. conclusion, i imagine the investors :  Homer: hey son, i found a way to get money, i invested all the money saved by your mom for your sister's studies.
Bart: really Homer ? we are going to be rich ? i don't care for studies !
Homer: I bought Enjin coins, you will be able to sell them to your friends !
Bart : You are so stupid Homer !
Second investor profile :  Dora's mom : Hi honey, i missed you today, haven't you seen my 200$ ?
Dora: Hi momy, i used them to buy Enjin coins, they promised that i could use them to buy charts for my next adventures ! Enjin is a Scam, rerouting the discussion, you reply with marketing. Originally BTCT is a dev forum, don't come into the territory of developers. These are from the original thread, the one closed. These posts are funny, but they are more to provide a better vision on the project. |
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Is this project aiming at being 100% decentralized or are there -as often times- any backdoors for centralization tendencies?
We don't want to be centralized and will try not to leave any backdoor for that, NVST itself will be used for voting too, for example, if NVST holders wants to fire me, they could do it. The architecture aims at loosing controle, and allowing updates only.
Update for NVO : We added two secondary architectures to NVO, we are focusing on NVO. The result of the
two other architectures is the decentralization of Coinpayments, which is a decentralized
payment processor (maybe the first) and a real decentralized bank, i can't give the name of the project nor give more
informations as it is a parallel team. this is why i focus so much on the technology of NVO as it will offer a lot of services in the future.
A W E S O M E i see a bright future for NVO, IMHO we'll see NVST explode in the upcoming months Thanks for your support, it is good that someone can understand the vision of the future of NVO.
I have invested 1 ETH in NVO ICO. When I was Logging in there was 1 ETH in Etherium section. NOW it's 0, can enyone tell me where my ETH is ...
All funds were send to new escrow adresses by Lauda. API still looks at the old adresses, which currently are empty. Enter the BTC addres you registered into xchain.io, you should see your NVST. I have entered my counterwallet BTC address in "personal bitcoin address" column still no sign of tokens. Where exactly should I be able to see them? Please join us on slack. |
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I have invested 1 ETH in NVO ICO. When I was Logging in there was 1 ETH in Etherium section. NOW it's 0, can enyone tell me where my ETH is ...
The funds have been consolidated, which means they are stored in a single address instead of several separated addresses. The altcoins are on a pending for exchange state, once done, they will be sent to the escrow address. The team withdrawed 9% of the bitcoins, this is why the altcoin addresses are empty. In order to verify your tokens, please search for your personal bitcoin address in https://xchain.io
i cannot swipe the tokens through the xcp wallet im stuck at "mport token funds by "sweeping" them from an external address into an address in this wallet.
Preparing output for transactions chaining"
i need help please!
Hello, you can use an alternative : https://github.com/Jpja/Sweep-XCP-PaperwalletAlso have a look at this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYqIOKlyusThe most important is to : Token name: NVST Amount : have to be the exact amount of tokens (max creates issues sometimes) BTC mining fees : We advise to set it 0.0008BTC BTC dust : better leave it as is If you still experience issues, please join us on slack. |
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Tonbi said on slack they are having a whole new website made. They aren't bothering with the old one because it will be completely replaced.
However personally I don't see the harm in taking just a little time to at least update the roadmap.
i agree. if they cant update the current one with minuscule details for so long i dont see why new investors would bother.... looking at the website now at this time, it makes it look like NVO actually IS a scam, since nothing has been done since ICO ended. this is unacceptable behavior and shows lack of respect to this project by the devs themselves. either hire someone who will keep this stuff in order, or forget about it all together. Please find a link to the preview for the website. The contents are just placeholders, definitions and timelines are for placeholding only. I had a blood pressure problem which delayed the work for 4 days, the team panicked. I am not looking for excuses, it was real, i can send you pictures if you want, i had to follow it constantly. I feel better and back to work. http://imgur.com/8fqbXAS |
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By the way, NVO have a nice architecture now, i am back. Sorry for not replying before, i had some issues now it is solved. I am smiling now, really confident, the plan we have is really exciting ... i can't say more for now.
Glad to have you back! thanks, i had some health issue, now it is solved. Please, anyone know when will we see NVO in exchanges? It's been so long the crowd sale has ended, but still NVO is not available in high volume exchanges.
NVO as a DEX; I guess must be having a talented team, including web developers. Having such a team, NVO's website looks cluttered as seen in day_1 (plus very minimal modifications). May be it is only my concerns that how NVO handle the challenges of a DEX if there is such a delay even in face lifting their web site.
Anyway, since Nemgun and Lauda are always active here, irrespective of the look & feel of website ATM or timelines in listing NVO in exchanges, hope we will see NVO team will come up with a great DEX.
We already sent demands to different exchanges, they are all focused on BCH now, however, coinpayments will list NVST. Thanks for your support Tonbi said on slack they are having a whole new website made. They aren't bothering with the old one because it will be completely replaced.
However personally I don't see the harm in taking just a little time to at least update the roadmap.
Yes the website will be changed, we are coding it, but we also have different things to work on, we organise our work schedule depending on the different tasks, each one having a set amount of hours/day and then go to a different one, this way we can progress everywhere, even if it is slow, at least it is moving. Update for NVO : We added two secondary architectures to NVO, we are focusing on NVO. The result of the two other architectures is the decentralization of Coinpayments, which is a decentralized payment processor (maybe the first) and a real decentralized bank, i can't give the name of the project nor give more informations as it is a parallel team. this is why i focus so much on the technology of NVO as it will offer a lot of services in the future. |
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Can someone tell me, what's the difference/unique value that NVO brings to the table other than other decentralized exchange, like OpenANX and others?  NVO will bring a plugin system to bridge more cryptocurrencies, crypto service providers, non crypto service providers and much more. We can't talk about it for now but there already several interesting candidates who are interested. Hello, I just logged onto the https://nvo.io/dashboard.php site to check in on my deposit.. but Now there is a zero balance in the alt coin that I submitted my ICO investment thingy too... I sent ETH.. but my ETH altcoin wallet on the dashboard shows zero now... it didnt show zero a few weeks ago.. Have you received your tokens ? By the way, NVO have a nice architecture now, i am back. Sorry for not replying before, i had some issues now it is solved. I am smiling now, really confident, the plan we have is really exciting ... i can't say more for now. |
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Makes no difference if you trust it or not.Just split the coins off the bitcoin address and dump the shitcoin and raise more money.The coins exist on the bitcoin address holding bitcoin at the time of the fork.
Official announcement about BCH/BCC:Yanni Bragui/Marto in slack "Hi guys, I wanted to clear the state of the BCH from the crowdsale. The BCH/BCC (result of chain split) belongs to the project. The team won't benefit from these funds, they are not considered as an exceptional "extra". These coins will be converted to Bitcoin as soon as it is possible, the escrows will handle the process and add the funds to the escrow address. These coins are considered as exceptional extra funds for the project." Exactly, the funds belongs to the project, and not an exceptional personal benefit to the team. However, we are still unable to change them for now. The escrows will take care of that. |
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About the chain split, technically you could have NVST on both chains (haven't tested yet). However, as the chains are different you can't use them on the main chain (Bitcoin (BTC)).
If you have bitcoins on your counterwallet, you can split them using the private key of the address holding them and an external tool (ie: coinb.in, bitcoin-qt ...)
Nemgun would you mind testing so we know? I don't trust BCH (bad cash hack) enough to risk a machine. |
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About the chain split, technically you could have NVST on both chains (haven't tested yet). However, as the chains are different you can't use them on the main chain (Bitcoin (BTC)).
If you have bitcoins on your counterwallet, you can split them using the private key of the address holding them and an external tool (ie: coinb.in, bitcoin-qt ...)
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