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1261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple starts to conquer the world from China on: September 07, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
IT IS CLOSED SOURCE.  

Show me the LICENSE?

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That is the DEFINITION of closed source.

You have WRONG DEFINITION. Terms of use of any software are specified in software license upon the release. Ripple server WAS NOT RELEASED YET. Neither under opened nor under closed license. PERIOD.

YOU UNDERSTAND?
  
P.S. Does it make it more clear for you if I use a lot of capital letters and bold text?

1262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple starts to conquer the world from China on: September 07, 2013, 02:55:36 PM

Yet you admit in the next post that the transaction server IS closed source and only available to approved lackeys of OpenCoin. Replaced "owned" with "approved".  Nobody runs the closed source binaries with OpenCoins experess permission.  Permission which can be revoked at any point in the future for any reason.

Closed source and absolute central control of the network.   Ripple is PayPal 2.0.

It is not closed sourced, it is not released yet. Neither sources no binaries are available to public. Currently, it is a very unstable piece of software which is not ready for release. When it will be released, no permission will be necessary to use it. Ripple has nothing in common with PayPal. Ripple aims to be a distributed currency exchange.

1263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple starts to conquer the world from China on: September 07, 2013, 01:31:14 PM

Provide a link to the download.  

There is no link to download, neither sources nor binaries. The server was not released to public yet. Only limited number of testers (~100) have currently access to rippled. It will be released to public when it will be stable enough. It is a normal way of software development.

1264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple starts to conquer the world from China on: September 07, 2013, 01:27:15 PM
If the distribution of XRP and the conduct of OpenCoin is a problem, at least the world will have their technology.

No they won't the transaction server is closed source and only runs on OpenCoin owned hardware.   

Both statements are false.
1265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has the NSA already broken bitcoin? on: September 06, 2013, 02:39:07 PM
This would be pretty easy to test. Just get a bunch of friends to start exchanging encrypted messages about bombing an embassy or govt office. If these douche-bags can break it, they'd be on you like white on rice.

Yeahh! You can also test sharpness of knife by sticking it into your throat. Always works.
1266  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Ripple - XRP! on: September 06, 2013, 02:24:52 PM
Вот когда выложат... А пока их по факту в данный момент не выложили, следовательно опренсорса нет...

По факту и бинарники тоже не выложили, следовательно клоздсорса тоже нет.
1267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple starts to conquer the world from China on: September 05, 2013, 06:34:46 PM

Yeah you don't really believe that do you.  Everything else is an IOU and has counterparty risk.  If/when there are a billion of XRP in millions of users hands.  Why would you want to be paid in the less secure, less liquid IOUs when it is almost a guarantee the person you are doing business with has XRP?


If you want to accept XRP, no problem with that. You need to buy and sell XRP for fiat or other assets anyway, and this process involves issuing IOUs. Instead, you can accept IOUs of real world money, and if ripple finds that the easiest way to exchange between IOUs which payer has and IOUs which you accept is though XRP, it will do this automatically. IOUs are as secure as any other bonds.
1268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple starts to conquer the world from China on: September 05, 2013, 05:59:34 PM

Thirdly, there is no other place that takes XRP for anything except for ripple.


XRP are not supposed to be used as money, although they are used some times. It is a special token to pay for using a wallet. In ripple, you pay with whatever money you have to anybody who has a ripple wallet, and he receives whatever money he wants.
1269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple starts to conquer the world from China on: September 05, 2013, 02:22:13 PM
It is funny to watch how bitcoin fanatics blame ripple for being closed source and centralized and continue using MtGox with BTC-e. Ripple is more decentralized than any bitcoin exchange, potheads. And instead of forking dozen of shitcoins per week to resolve bitcoin flaws, you can use any existing currency in ripple "bitcoin style", or even issue your own currency if you have something to back it.


1270  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Ripple - XRP! on: September 03, 2013, 03:58:48 PM

Дать исходники по запросу и выложить в опенсорс это разные вещи. О чем они и пишут сами в своём вики: "The source code is not currently publicly available. Rippled will be open sourced soon." Т.е. они сами признают, что система в настоящий момент  не опресорс. А станет она таковой только тогда, когда исходники выложат свободно и без всяких запросов.

P.S. Ну не бывает "осетрины второй свежести" ...

Их выложат в открытый дуступ в ближайшем будущем. Т.е. никаких секретов из исходников не делают.
1271  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Ripple - XRP! on: August 23, 2013, 05:10:29 PM
Этот клиент выложен полгода как, если не больше и интереса представляет ничуть не больше, чем любая скрипт-обертка на JS или PHP для bitcoind. Толку от нее - ноль. Кошелек и весь алгоритм обработки транзакций, генерации адресов и монет на сервере,  а сервер они, похоже, выкладывать не собираются. Так что все их утверждения по-поводу оперсорса - скам.

Они сейчас дают исходники сервера третьим лицам, но только по запросу. Email просто написать надо. Примерно 90 человек на данный момент имеют исходники на руках.

Из ripple wiki:

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Rippled is the server component of the Ripple network. The source code is not currently publicly available. Rippled will be open sourced soon.

Early access to the source code is available to select business partners. If you are planning a Ripple based business and are interested in early access, please contact partners@ripple.com
1272  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Ripple as a service (not coin) on: August 05, 2013, 06:04:45 PM
Ripple can be a service and coin and exchange, that is what they are trying to do, but they make it so complicated that it will not be easy for the typical consumer to use it.   Also the development seems painfully slow, we are still looking at their close Beta!

It is not easy to understand how ripple work, but it is very easy to use it. Just fund your wallet with whatever currency you have through appropriate gateway, then make payments to any ripple address with the currency which receiver needs. It takes few clicks to setup yourself for using ripple.
1273  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2013-07-29 Bitcoin Illegal in Thailand on: July 29, 2013, 05:35:35 PM
Funny how such a beautiful country can have such draconian laws like that

Well, in countries like this, toughness of draconian laws is often compensated by inability of government to enforce them. So, in practice, they may have even more freedom than people from "everything is legal unless it is prohibited" type countries Smiley

1274  Economy / Economics / Re: How does a country fully adopt Bitcoin? on: July 25, 2013, 02:47:42 PM
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How does a country fully adopt Bitcoin?

First, they should get a mentally deranged government.
1275  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Ripple on: July 23, 2013, 02:14:34 PM
Второй день наблюдаю в Network feed на https://ripple.com/graph/ бесконечную картинку

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...
10:47:30   rbvFfuUysurzPHq5kgs53A16j5svbFxgv   0.000001 XRP   for   0.00000001 USD
10:47:30   rbvFfuUysurzPHq5kgs53A16j5svbFxgv   0.000001 XRP   for   0.00000001 USD
10:47:30   rbvFfuUysurzPHq5kgs53A16j5svbFxgv   0.000001 XRP   for   0.00000001 USD
...

но в History https://ripple.com/graph/#rbvFfuUysurzPHq5kgs53A16j5svbFxgv нет ничего

Huh

У меня картинка меняется. Просто трансзакции идут с такой скоростью, что иногда список виснет.

А что за адрес такой странный?
1276  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Ripple on: July 22, 2013, 04:25:09 PM

Поток сознания?  Smiley

У тебя? Соболезную.

Да я собственно согласен что XRP != Riplle, но пока сеть шлюзов не развита, ценность Ripple заключается в движении курса XRP.
Проблемы с чувством юмора? Пардон, не буду больше беспокоить.
 

Да никаких проблем.

Что касается курса XRP, то чем он ниже, тем лучше для пользователей. Кошелёк дешевле. Будет расти, конечно, если пользователей будет прибавляться.
1277  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Ripple on: July 22, 2013, 03:36:06 PM

Поток сознания?  Smiley

У тебя? Соболезную.
1278  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Ripple on: July 22, 2013, 02:39:34 PM
XRP это не Ripple.

Ripple это не XRP.

1279  Local / Бизнес / Re: Кредиты в биткоинах on: July 18, 2013, 03:49:49 PM

Уговорили можете не заходить на сайт.

Я его видел ещё пол-года назад. И что? От этого что-то должно поменяться?
1280  Local / Бизнес / Re: Кредиты в биткоинах on: July 18, 2013, 03:45:11 PM
Вы на сайт хотя бы зашли? Smiley
 Хотите можете привязывать к курсу на гоксе.

Хорошо, привязали. А он взял и к моменту выплаты взлетел в 10 раз. Кредитор на займе потерял свои деньги. Если бы он просто держал свои биткойны в своём кошельке, он был бы в 10 раз богаче. А если не привязать курс, то в заднице оказывается заёмщик.

Когда курс колеблется в разы в течении недели, никакие кредиты не имеют смысла.
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