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201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 15, 2014, 04:54:05 PM
Due to high demand, I have enabled payouts to run once every minute  Wink Open your wallet you might have a present waiting. Manual payout should be working every minute now.

5CUR after 2 days work.This coin should worth more. Angry

Patience, the coin is still only on small exchanges, it isn't even on coinmarketcap.com yet, it's only just launched and there's been no marketing yet.  It's doing great so far.  For such a young coin there are relatively large trades going on already, it's future looks very bright.

Yes, I agree, the coin is roughly 5 days old now, I would hold them ... Im holding.... ( hoddling  Cheesy )

Happy folding !

CygnusXI

I'm holding and buying. Smiley
202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 15, 2014, 02:00:31 PM
there is a Chinese character in the logo. Sad  i don't like Chinese coin, there are so many scam coins made in China.

And you're just ignorant and stupid.
203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 15, 2014, 07:28:47 AM
I dont see why mining pools couldnt give 80% of the coins to a centralized folding pool ?
I also wish that dev would bring more light to the whole premine thing - Starting with a blockexplorer, what sort of systems are in place to distribute the folding premine and ending with a audit from KPMG,PwC etc showing all the coins really are the property of CURECOIN LLC.


I am not trying to bash the coin but I cant see big exchanges adopting the coin or investors putting serious cash in it without some clarity on the matter.

Would you trust the pool op to do it?

If I were to solo mine with say 10th/s (which is possible by renting on betarigs or leaserig), I would have 1/10 of the network (100 th/s last I saw). What's to stop me from hoarding the coins and not passing them along to the folding pool?


Yeah, I dont know what happened to my brain there, realized it too a minute after the post Grin I guess there is no better way then.


No worries, it's good to have a discussion about this to find improvements in the system.
204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 15, 2014, 07:09:13 AM
I dont see why mining pools couldnt give 80% of the coins to a centralized folding pool ?
I also wish that dev would bring more light to the whole premine thing - Starting with a blockexplorer, what sort of systems are in place to distribute the folding premine and ending with a audit from KPMG,PwC etc showing all the coins really are the property of CURECOIN LLC.


I am not trying to bash the coin but I cant see big exchanges adopting the coin or investors putting serious cash in it without some clarity on the matter.

Would you trust the pool op to do it?

If I were to solo mine with say 10th/s (which is possible by renting on betarigs or leaserig), I would have 1/10 of the network (100 th/s last I saw). What's to stop me from hoarding the coins and not passing them along to the folding pool?
205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 15, 2014, 06:51:44 AM
I was wondering if anyone's considered hitting this thing from the third angle. We've got GPU's hitting the folding pretty hard. We've got SHA256 ASIC's hitting the mining end pretty hard. What about a multipool so the SCRYPT ASIC's can hit the value end of things? Then all mining hardware could be used to develop and support CureCoin. Just a thought.

We have nothing useful for scrypt asics to do and it would effectively require a hard fork for nothing.


Asics secure network
GPUs fold


Scrypt Asics would be worse at securing the network especially because their are a lot less.
Scrypt Asics can't fold.

No no, scrypt asics could mine at a MultiPool, like BlackCoin's or CinniCoin's multipool. Basically they would mine Scrypt Based altcoins, and the multipool would automatically trade them for CureCoins. It's a proven technique that allows Scrypt miners to apply buy pressure to coins that are otherwise unobtainable for them.

It wouldn't require any change to the wallet or network. The Scrypt Miners literally just buy coins in exchange for their hashpower.

Buy pressure created by these pools is almost none.... I think BCpool last time I looks was creating 7BTC of buy pressure... That is nothing. Those multipools are basically hype machines for people that do not do the math. Sounds like it would work though.



Totally agree. First of all these pools are always associated with sh*tcoins that are desperately looking to create some hype/ fake demand.
Copying an idea for the tenth time just doesnt work anyway. You need to be ahead of the curve just like this coin is to create some value  Cool



Can anyone elaborate on a few technical aspects of the coin ?

# If there is no hard cap for the coins how was the 5% premine done ? 5% of ∞ is ? Huh
# How does the " Network balancing" mentioned in the OP work ? How does an increase in SHA256 difficulty affect folders ?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvPoRrj3QF5sdGlxUzdKVVgyaWZvZGlaT195OEFKZmc&usp=sharing



Ok, fact that the coins for the folders were all premined doesnt look so good Undecided  I wonder why couldnt that just be divided between the miners and folders as the coins are minted ?
So essentially one person is in control of ~80% of the coins ? Paying folders is done manually ?
What happens if the developer dies in a plane crash etc and takes the private keys with him ?


Just trying to get some clarity here.

Yeah, that is literally my only concern. I'd very much like to see a hardfork that releases the coins to the folding pool as the blocks are minted, instead of having them premined. I have not a single doubt that the Dev's intentions are honorable, and that, quite frankly, this is his baby and he would never do anything to harm it. But what happens if this coin outlives him? Can we trust the people that follow? Wouldn't it be easier to make the necessary changes to ensure the coin's survival while it's still young?

I'm on board either way. I think this project is too important not to take part. But the premine is an issue, and one that does concern me.

You have to also understand that F@H is not under the dev's control. It's under Stanford University and it has been going on since 2000.

Since folding is not mining and vice versa, you can't just depend on the miners solving blocks and the mining pools giving the coins to the folding pool so that they can payout to the folders.

I can't think of a better system that the dev has already implemented except maybe increasing payouts to twice a day instead of once.
206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 15, 2014, 06:16:34 AM
I was wondering if anyone's considered hitting this thing from the third angle. We've got GPU's hitting the folding pretty hard. We've got SHA256 ASIC's hitting the mining end pretty hard. What about a multipool so the SCRYPT ASIC's can hit the value end of things? Then all mining hardware could be used to develop and support CureCoin. Just a thought.

We have nothing useful for scrypt asics to do and it would effectively require a hard fork for nothing.


Asics secure network
GPUs fold


Scrypt Asics would be worse at securing the network especially because their are a lot less.
Scrypt Asics can't fold.

No no, scrypt asics could mine at a MultiPool, like BlackCoin's or CinniCoin's multipool. Basically they would mine Scrypt Based altcoins, and the multipool would automatically trade them for CureCoins. It's a proven technique that allows Scrypt miners to apply buy pressure to coins that are otherwise unobtainable for them.

It wouldn't require any change to the wallet or network. The Scrypt Miners literally just buy coins in exchange for their hashpower.

Buy pressure created by these pools is almost none.... I think BCpool last time I looks was creating 7BTC of buy pressure... That is nothing. Those multipools are basically hype machines for people that do not do the math. Sounds like it would work though.



Totally agree. First of all these pools are always associated with sh*tcoins that are desperately looking to create some hype/ fake demand.
Copying an idea for the tenth time just doesnt work anyway. You need to be ahead of the curve just like this coin is to create some value  Cool



Can anyone elaborate on a few technical aspects of the coin ?

# If there is no hard cap for the coins how was the 5% premine done ? 5% of ∞ is ? Huh
# How does the " Network balancing" mentioned in the OP work ? How does an increase in SHA256 difficulty affect folders ?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvPoRrj3QF5sdGlxUzdKVVgyaWZvZGlaT195OEFKZmc&usp=sharing
207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 15, 2014, 06:02:42 AM
I was wondering if anyone's considered hitting this thing from the third angle. We've got GPU's hitting the folding pretty hard. We've got SHA256 ASIC's hitting the mining end pretty hard. What about a multipool so the SCRYPT ASIC's can hit the value end of things? Then all mining hardware could be used to develop and support CureCoin. Just a thought.

We have nothing useful for scrypt asics to do and it would effectively require a hard fork for nothing.


Asics secure network
GPUs fold


Scrypt Asics would be worse at securing the network especially because their are a lot less.
Scrypt Asics can't fold.

No no, scrypt asics could mine at a MultiPool, like BlackCoin's or CinniCoin's multipool. Basically they would mine Scrypt Based altcoins, and the multipool would automatically trade them for CureCoins. It's a proven technique that allows Scrypt miners to apply buy pressure to coins that are otherwise unobtainable for them.

It wouldn't require any change to the wallet or network. The Scrypt Miners literally just buy coins in exchange for their hashpower.

I guess what you're trying to say is,

SHA256 ASICs - Keep the blockchain going
GPUs - Folding the proteins
Scrypt ASICs - Multi-pool for earning curecoins

It sounds good, but we would have to remind miners it would be better to fold on their GPUs compared to mining scrypt on a multi-pool which they may direct to as they might not understand what is folding.
208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 15, 2014, 01:05:56 AM
Anyone with GTX 750 TI folding?
What are your results per card?

The 750 doesn't work properly with f@h at the moment. You'll have to wait for the next f@h update.
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 14, 2014, 03:18:43 PM
If anyone can answer me this.

I am up and running about 2 days now. I think I registered on CryptoBullionPools correctly.

I see no stats on my stats page though. Does that mean I did something wrong? I also show no valid team points or 24 hour folding points. Or no payouts.

Is your username on the f@h team curecoin page?
edit: nvm, read above....
210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 14, 2014, 05:21:32 AM
Please restart your CPU slot, set it to finish so it not get a new WU if you don't want. But please doing harm the science in not finishing WU. It will also harm you passkey, keep in mind the required 80% success rate.

To make it more secure you can configure the CPU slot with an advanced option "pause-on-start" set true. Will not start the slot after reboot.

But please: finish work started.


It starts automatically when the program first starts yet we are told to pause the CPU slot because of bottleneck risks...

Well it really depends on your system isn't it? I have 2 gpus in a decently fast quadcore system so I don't need to disable anything.

So what you should do if you are indeed have bottlenecking issues, set it to finish first. Then when the WU is finished, go to the configure menu -> slots -> remove cpu.
211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 14, 2014, 04:15:27 AM
How many coins have been created so far?

I calculated 740 blocks * 65/block = 48,100. Is that correct?

on the mining pools? if it's at 740 blocks, it would be 740 x 13 = 9620
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 14, 2014, 03:31:39 AM
For anyone wondering about the payout delays and such, I'll tell you how mine worked for an example.

I started folding on May 10th and my work units usually take about 15 hours so probably completed some time May 11th (I was not home for the weekend so wasn't monitoring and don't remember exact time I started folding or ETA).

Yesterday, May 12th, during the afternoon (~19:00 UTC), on cryptobullionpools, I was seeing my PPD (120k) and expected payout (~24.7 CURE), and had an account balance of 0.000...CUR.

At 23:00 UTC last night (May 12th) my account was credited with the exact amount expected (24.67...), and I performed a cash out.

I just received my cash-out to my wallet at 18:00 UTC today (May 13th). Also, cryptobullionpools is showing 100k PPD for the day and an expected payout of ~11 coins. Account balance is 0.

So it seems accounts are credited at 23:00 UTC for work completed >24 hours earlier, and cashouts are handled at 18:00 UTC.

This is disheartening. I've been folding since May 10th at about 5PM PST at 300k PPD and only have 18 coins.

I love this idea and it's clear that it's worthwhile given that the CureCoin team is the #1 folding team in only three days. There needs to be more information provided for the payouts though.

Isn't 18 coins a big profit compared to other coins right now with the exchanges prices?

I havent run those numbers. The point is that I'm getting paid less at 300k PPD compared to someone with 120k PPD.

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=224497&username=nonny12

Well given that this coin is so different from previous coins, there can be some teething issues.

But your 18coins at 0.00666667 (last buy at ccex) is about 0.12btc which is not too bad.
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 14, 2014, 03:23:31 AM
For anyone wondering about the payout delays and such, I'll tell you how mine worked for an example.

I started folding on May 10th and my work units usually take about 15 hours so probably completed some time May 11th (I was not home for the weekend so wasn't monitoring and don't remember exact time I started folding or ETA).

Yesterday, May 12th, during the afternoon (~19:00 UTC), on cryptobullionpools, I was seeing my PPD (120k) and expected payout (~24.7 CURE), and had an account balance of 0.000...CUR.

At 23:00 UTC last night (May 12th) my account was credited with the exact amount expected (24.67...), and I performed a cash out.

I just received my cash-out to my wallet at 18:00 UTC today (May 13th). Also, cryptobullionpools is showing 100k PPD for the day and an expected payout of ~11 coins. Account balance is 0.

So it seems accounts are credited at 23:00 UTC for work completed >24 hours earlier, and cashouts are handled at 18:00 UTC.

This is disheartening. I've been folding since May 10th at about 5PM PST at 300k PPD and only have 18 coins.

I love this idea and it's clear that it's worthwhile given that the CureCoin team is the #1 folding team in only three days. There needs to be more information provided for the payouts though.

Isn't 18 coins a big profit compared to other coins right now with the exchanges prices?
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 13, 2014, 05:54:36 PM


No one really cares about devcoin. You do know that right?

And its not a significant pre-mine. Do you follow alts?

Btw, my 30k ppd got me 10 curecoins. I'm kicking your ass. Smiley

Devcoin still has a pretty decent market cap, but that's beside the point -- I'm talking about one aspect of devcoin that I think is handled correctly, not the overall coin.  They got their coin balance wrong, but the split mining idea is solid.

If you're getting that many curecoins, it just goes to show that the process needs to be more transparent.  Why the hell is there not a PPD/curecoin conversion shown for each payout on the pool?  This would be simple to do, and would make it easy to verify that it's being done correctly.

If you want to be that idealistic from looking at your previous posts, it would be better for you to start your own crypto.
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 13, 2014, 05:41:48 PM
What kind of bullshit red herring is this?  Who said anything about "stealing"?  He paid himself a huge portion of the coins.  When the time is right he will dump it and crash the coin, and walk off with the cash.  No "stealing" is necessary.

Well if that's what you believe, then don't fold for it if you don't want to, no one is forcing you to. You were pointed to the relevant post explaining who the dev is and what the dev coins are for, etc. and completely dismiss it, yet you're trolling and spreading FUD about the dev's future actions as if it is fact with nothing to back up what you're saying. Do you know the dev? Is he a pathological liar? Repeat offender of criminal theft? What is the basis for your conclusion? Just your perception of human nature?

The latter one.  Name me a coin that has a significant premine and hasn't seen a massive dump that killed the value, and maybe I'll change my mind.

I'm not calling the dev a thief, or even a scammer.  I'm saying that at some point he will see the value dropping, think about his mortgage, and panic sell.  He can do that, it's his coins - 3% of all the coins that will ever be created in the 10 years or whatever that this is planned to pay out.  

That's why I call for the devcoin approach.  I don't mind if he gets 3% of the coins.  Hell, I'd rather he have 10% of the coins, but only have them paid out as they're mined.  

This is not a terrible project, I'm just disappointed that there was so much thought put into the concept, and so little in the implementation.

No one really cares about devcoin. You do know that right?

And its not a significant pre-mine. Do you follow alts?

Btw, my 30k ppd got me 10 curecoins. I'm kicking your ass. Smiley
216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 13, 2014, 03:53:12 PM
For the record as of 13.5.2014 there is no working exchange for curecoin.

Bittrex listed wrongly (no cure there)
Scifiexchange down (bad code)
and the last one have zero in it.


Are people just keeping it ?

https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CURE

217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 13, 2014, 11:15:15 AM
Am I the only one using cryptobullionpools.com?  I've pressed the "cash out" button to claim my curecoins, but 24hrs later it still hasn't been deposited to my wallet.  When i logged back in this morning the curecoin balance is still in the pool?  Seems like the pool is broken...I contacted the dev of the pool last night and am waiting for a response, but in the meantime, id rather not fold if the pool is not working!!

hi - can i ask how long did it take to show you had coins on cryptobullionpools.com?  I have had '0.0 KH' for 3 days but it did show you coins it just won't payout?  I had no response from support either

Does your name at f@h and the cryptobullion match exactly? Meaning upper and lower case also?

What is your username at F@H?
218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 13, 2014, 11:11:36 AM
Am I the only one using cryptobullionpools.com?  I've pressed the "cash out" button to claim my curecoins, but 24hrs later it still hasn't been deposited to my wallet.  When i logged back in this morning the curecoin balance is still in the pool?  Seems like the pool is broken...I contacted the dev of the pool last night and am waiting for a response, but in the meantime, id rather not fold if the pool is not working!!

No issues. Cashed out earlier today.

And everyone uses cryptobullionpools for the folding pool. There's no other folding pool and to be fair, it's not really a pool either.
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 13, 2014, 11:10:23 AM
How are the payouts per MH/s for the folding pool?

there aren't any. if you thought you wanted coins, apparently you have to understand its 'bigger than that' lol.

My coins were credited after 2 days of folding. Not sure what's wrong with your setup.
220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 13, 2014, 11:09:11 AM
How are the payouts per MH/s for the folding pool?

That's not how this coin works.
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