All right please no more mention of this. It is your opinion, i absolutely refute touching anything made by them, and absolutely refuse to talk about them as this is an indirect promotion they absolutely don't deserve. You are simply telling people to use their fw and thats a big no.

If you use the sd install method with the older version, it can install to nand. Or you can leave the sd card always inserted. The rest does not exist, its an unnecessary risk and worse, it promotes their behavior as it acknowledges their existence and attitude. So even if you are saying you are not, you are in practice becoming their agent. You just linked their site, that is directly giving them google search results. I will remind you that they take a cut so its not something "free", and this by exploiting the works of others like Kano and ck.

This is not a vnish thread. And vnish is never the answer, quite the opposite. But i will not discuss this here anymore. Vnish is in my boycott list, both the person(s) and whatever they say they make or support. You can make a vnish thread stating how wonderful it is, and you will not see me there saying anything about it. But this is a thread with the word Braiins OS in it. He did the same provocation before, because that's what they do.

If you insist, just like i told vnish, you will leave me no choice but to add you to the ignore list. Yes; just after vnish himself went to troll and insult in one of our groups, he was given a chance and he did behave for a few months, then he did it again plus the threats via dm, and that was the last time.

If you think someone with this attitude could not do something wrong with firmware, that is your opinion, not mine, and like i said, this is not a vnish thread. No more vnish talk, you are essentially thread hijacking by bringing this here.

The owner of the miner can do and risk whatever they want, but i do not agree that it is a viable way to install Braiins OS and nobody from Braiins will ever tell anyone to use vnish to install Braiins OS, that's ridiculous.

The only supported install of Braiins OS is with the miner running FACTORY firmware and NOTHING else. When you uninstall Braiins OS it puts factory fw and you are free to do whatever after that. Because Braiins OS is not related to any other firmware, it is not a mod, you cannot use the same methods used to remove other fw. So the easiest and simplest way is just run it from the sd card. If you DO install to nand, to remove later, you need to use bos-toolbox uninstall.

Therefore my recommendation, especially to those using x17, is to run it directly from the SD card and only install it if they are absolutely sure they want it in the nand, it makes no difference to run it from SD or NAND except saving the micro sd card for something else.

PS: The reason the latest version is not installing to NAND is unrelated to signature checks. If you want to discuss more, come to my thread. We have derailed the OP question long enough.

Well said, censorship-resistant transactions, not censorship-resistant spam.

No one is talking about censoring transactions, the talk is about making non-transactions (aka. spam) more difficult/expensive.

Not transactions, not Bitcoin.

5 days and counting...

I am not forcing anyone anything. Vnish himself directed a personal threat against my person before i blocked them on telegram, with taserz joining the bullying, insults and threats some of which can be seen in this forum. This is why they are now permanently ignored as thankfully this forum has that function and they are also blocked from my telegram as well.

Vnish told me he was banned from this forum in 2017, and now i know why. This is why they resort to make fake accounts. It seems its not the first time they threat people and insult and ridicule others. So yes, they made it personal. They are poison. You can clearly see how taserz has insulted Kano for years when he demands they stop using cgminer (which they won't since they feel immune under the Russian sphere of influence).

This is a thread about Braiins OS. instead you are here promoting vnish. So who is forcing what?, you are outright shilling here. This is why i'm telling the OP to move to my own self-moderated thread, where i will NOT allow you to shill others, specially when said others abuse.

I don't care if you are their agent, best buddys or whatever. I didn't ask them to issue personal threats, and i never went to their group/thread to troll and insult, so they earned their reputation on their own. "We are no longer 3 guys in a basement" said taserz, but his attitude speaks for himself. If you are related to vnish, please do tell so i can add you as well to my ignore list. I don't need to take the vnish harassment anymore. I said enough is enough.

PS: Yes you can install Braiins OS from the SD card if the miner has the latest version of FACTORY firmware. You just need the older SD image.

0) Like i said, it won't hash. It leaves the red led on, and the log shows the error "0 < 1 fans... blah blah" What more warnings you need?
1) For S9 it doesn't matter much, The S19 chips are much more sensitive to temperature fluctuations. DPS is optional but you should keep the target temperature (or less) at all times. Of course it should trigger if you fail to keep the miner cool, that's its purpose. The S9 family does not scale back up on its own even if temperature improves, it needs a bosminer restart (can be scheduled).
2) Its saved and reused as long as chips perform properly, chip performance is monitored 24/7. Sometimes a power fluctuation will make them misbehave and a full autotuning process may be invoked again.
3) Of course, that's the whole point of setting the power target. Each hashboard gets 1/3 of this value.
4) The autotuning will find it according to the power target specified. Each miner is unique and will give slightly different results.
5) Best user shared result was at 825W (set to 900) 60°C chip temp. Next best 1142W (set to 1150) 89°C. S9j 14.5 and S9i 14 gives the best results.

With S17 i have seen results as low as 29 J/T, S19 pro 25 J/T and S19j pro as low as 20 J/T (measured at the wall).
Note: S9 = 16nm, S17, S19 Pro 7nm, S19j Pro 5nm.

Rough average is 20% efficiency increase (meaning, use 20% less power at factory hashrates), usually more efficiency with lower power targets but it depends in the specific miner itself and chip temperature. No two hash boards have identical chips and only Braiins OS+ can find the most efficient result which is why its autotuning process is so involved unlike other wannabe imitations that not only use shortcuts that are suboptimal for the specific miner, they just "tune" and forget; without any care if the miner breaks later...

The default values are correct. Bitmain changed the way S9 reports temperatures around 2017, basically subtracting 15°. The oldest firmware reports temperatures exactly the same as Braiins OS: as the sensors send it.

What warning? If it reaches hot fans go 100%, if it reaches Dangerous hashing stops. You can change them if you wish.

In the Bitmain specs the max chip temp is written as 135°C. Someone mentioned that factory fw stops hashing at 130°C. Braiins OS is far more conservative by default.

The default requires 1 fan plugged, if won't hash until you enable "Immersion mode" which means minimum fans required: 0, and nothing else.

I can also imagine countries, foundations, etc keeping bitcoin reserves (in cold wallets), not moved in decades just like they did with gold.

And the spammers will do as well. Guess who will win?

No, its not about "using blockchain", its about Bitcoin transactions.

The irony is that its the "newb" that would pay the high transactions, since the wallets will by default estimate the fee and use high one so it doesn't take "too long", which is where most "newb" complains comes from about Bitcoin being both expensive and slow.

Get the spam out of Bitcoin, and boycott anyone involved in producing and pushing this spam.

The "minimum wage" in Venezuela is currently the equivalent of $5 (five USD) a month, most private companies pay at least about $40. Many fled the country and are sending money back from abroad for their families, those who don't know Bitcoin would pay the likes of Western Union 15~30 dollars per 100 sent... This is THE reason El Salvador adopted Bitcoin.

Oh yes, i forgot to mention blackouts are frequent in most parts of the country. Guess how well that plays for running a lightning node?

1 satoshi es una fracción de bitcoin... si no les molesta dividirlo en cien millones de partes

Es igual acá pero en el foro español están relajados... En realidad hay varios hilos que no pertenecen aquí pero los moderadores miran para otro lado. En inglés si se cumple, cero altcoins para eso está el área de altcoins.

Está ese tema y también el encarecimiento de las transacciones Bitcoin, como se ha visto desde el 6 de febrero. En cualquier momento se cruzará lo que solían ser situaciones temporales (como cuando los exchange mueven monedas desde/hacia cold wallets) que aumentaban el costo de la transacción, con este spam que ya lo está haciendo por si solo, junto al que se le irán añadiendo por ejemplo los de "bored ape" anunciaron algo similar a Ordinals involucrando a Bitcoin...

Ese mercado de "lo que sea" está dispuesto a pagar mas que las transacciones normales de Bitcoin, y por eso tienen el potencial de sabotear.

Mi primera transacción post Ordinals de 1 sat/b se tomó 7 días, cuando lo normal eran entre 2 a 12 horas. Mi segunda transacción lleva 4 días y contando...

Ya veremos si los desarrolladores deciden hacer algo o no, porque propuestas hay, incluso a nivel de los nodos.

Lo de Satoshi tiene poca importancia. Aun si entran al mercado no haría mas que retrasar lo inevitable. Puedes ver el paralelo cuando el creador de Litecoin vendió todos sus Litecoin.

O si lo quieres ver de otra forma son 20 y no 21 millones. Pero igual si son 19 no va detenerse el proceso de que, el resto (fiat, altcoins), es ilimitado.

En telegram no hay ignore, si en un grupo alguien decide acosarte y los moderadores no toman acción, no te queda mas remedio que irte. Acá no, afortunadamente como muchos medios tradicionales, tiene la función de ignore y esa gente con su veneno puede perfectamente pasar al olvido.

En IRC también hay ignore, es increíble que esas herramientas sociales actuales carezcan de una función tan básica, parece que sus creadores son masoquistas; como si los troll o peor fueran a desaparecer. Hay gente mala allá afuera y es necesario bloquearla.

No se cual es el tema de la apariencia, con Stylish yo le puse Nex Dark Theme hace años y se ve perfectamente bien para mi.

No se olviden que este foro lo hizo Satoshi, y salvo el canal de IRC que ahora está en libera.chat, el resto es mas que secundario. Es aquí donde nacieron y murieron proyectos, no en reddit, ni twitter o tik tok.

So we have a collection of entities interested in spamming Bitcoin, that are now observing how its possible to do so in a sustainable way... Since there is a market willing to pay for the spam in detriment of genuine transactions...

I'm more interested in the sauna, have you ever been in the "hot room" of a mining farm with +500 miners exhausting the air in such a room? Yup, sauna (needs earplugs tho).

Well the unfortunate thing is that with factory fw it has to go very high and you cannot control it. It would be best if it didn't need to reach 130 to stop...

The fan sense is a double edge sword. Sometimes a fan fails but its still registering RPM (can't turn on its own but is being pushed/pulled by the others), and you will notice higher temps, and sometimes lower RPM from that fan.

Unstoppable money or unstoppable spam? Who is willing to pay more to dominate the mempool?

Well RBF has been a thing for years, it just has been enabled by default when it was opt in before. But, having to redo the transaction with a higher fee should be an exception, and not a norm.

I want to see how long this second (post Ordinals) 1 sat/b transaction takes, first one took a whole week.

Yeah, the powers that be are sabotaging Bitcoin to make you flee to a parallel blockchain or a more centralized "workaround", rather than genuine Bitcoin. Their plan seems to be going fine, they found a vulnerability and are exploiting it...

tbct_mt2 when you say "people join the fee rate", you seem to skip the fact that its the wallets doing it automatically. If some exchange wants to move coins around from a cold wallet or whatever, a domino effect spreads "automatically" thanks to this "guess the network fee" algorithm. Rarely people know to disable the guessing and go with a manually set tx fee, they will just blame it on Bitcoin being "expensive/useless".

So now that spam is pegging the mempool to the max, what will happen the next time such event occurs? What when the next Ordinals comes and joins the spamming because its more lucrative for them to sell spam than do Bitcoin transactions? Of course recommending "other" methods of payment, soon the Bitcoin blockchain will be dedicated to this since they are willing to pay more than mere transactions would.

No doubt to the benefit of altcoiners, etc; that want to bury Bitcoin.

DO NOT do what BitMaxz said, Stay away from ANY vnish poison.
Please go to my thread were we can continue in peace without being insulted or harassed.

I'm on my 3rd day waiting thanks to the Ordinals spam.

50 may not be "much", but its still 50 times more than before this spam attack. It would be fine if the congestion was because of actual Bitcoin transactions, but this is abuse of foreign entities against the Bitcoin blockchain.

I at the very least, will boycott those involved in it.

I have seen people successfully using the 140mm 3k "industrial" Noctua with 3d printed adapters, but 200mm?

The 140mm is 158CFM, while the 200mm is just 88CFM. The factory fans are usually 210CFM...