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861  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: T17/S17 Firmware on: September 24, 2021, 03:47:06 PM
Except when they are in violation of the license. Kano does have a point in that they are infringing somebody else's copyright, what i don't understand is why then he won't sue them instead of wasting time nagging in a forum.

Some of these modders feel above the law and simply don't care to abide by a contract or agreement, but the truth is they are infringing. I wonder why Kano won't take it to Theymos as well?



About a single payment:

The short answer to this is that the first sell is the last sell. Exactly how you sell Free Open Source Software, but without the express freedoms (ie. it will get copied into oblivion regardless of legality).

You can make Free and Open Source Software and sell it in this fashion, of course the price should be equivalent to the whole project, like a commission. Someone could develop a cgminer/bmminer full replacement from scratch and then they would not be infringing anymore.

We only know of a single project that did this, because its "too much work" to actually do things properly rather than taking somebody else's work, do some tweaks and collect a fortune in fees. And they don't want to obey the license and share their little tweaks because the others would copy them and charge less or nothing (again, 1 time sell).

That doesn't mean they are in the right for infringing the license of cgminer.
862  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lucky BTC Holder Activates Bitcoin Wallet with $17.4 Million After 8.8 Years Fac on: September 24, 2021, 02:34:12 PM
I guess i would move those coins to a modern cold wallet (ie. Segwit, etc). Maybe have a very small amount for daily use in a hot wallet.

Someone successfully got their retirement plan, for trusting a little anonymous cyberpunk when most people didn't. Congratulations!
863  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All crypto declared illegal in China!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 24, 2021, 02:29:12 PM
Yes, the difference is that they are finally closing the door, which is what everyone was expecting from their CBDC. Remember CBDCs are the same or worse than fiat money, well there are also the altcoins pegged to those...

But OF COURSE the State doesn't want people no longer depend from the State. Whats next, THEY becoming redundant?
864  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin could destroy economy on: September 24, 2021, 02:23:32 PM
Obsolete rules are obsolete. You cannot apply the rules for a national currency to a global currency. The money isn't moving, only you are. The money is in all the world at the same time, those old rules cannot be enforced anymore.

This is what the next generation of politicians need to grasp, because without a few exceptions like gold, there have not been true global currencies before. Sure, the old gold coins of another country were not technically valid everywhere, but you could at least melt it. Can't do that to modern fiat can you? Its just paper at best, digital zeroes at worst, backed purely by promises and nothing else.

So go after the individual and find where did the money came from, but leave the money itself alone. It is not your jurisdiction anymore, its not your country sovereign right to ruin it like in the past. Bitcoin is not yours or your little country, it belongs to the world.
865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin suitable to become legal tender? on: September 24, 2021, 02:02:20 PM
First off I don´t think that El Salvador or others have the necessary infrastructure present to support transactions in crypto.
Secondly I don´t think that most countries have the necessary financial education to support Bitcoin as legal tender.
Thirdly and related to second point is the fact that trading in Bitcoin can be more prone to scammers due to the fully digital nature of the currency

1 Is a slowdown, but in El Salvador they have installed hundreds of ATMs for this transition, besides Starlink seems to be finally becoming available so this point is becoming nil.

2 Is irrelevant to being a legal tender. Trading is not something common people need to do.
You don't need "financial education" to hold your money, all you need to learn is how to keep it safe (write down the seed words in a piece of paper, etc).

3 Scammers were not invented by Bitcoin or the Internet. If a stranger is asking you for money (under whatever excuse) and you give it, there is your problem.

These are low excuses with political motivation, rather than Bitcoin you want to attack the current politicians in power, without looking at the big picture. This goes way beyond Bukele and their party, if you have anything against them ask the other two parties why they didn't do it. It is too late now and when you oppose Bitcoin you can only make a fool of yourself.

By adopting Bitcoin El Salvador is removing their current and future politicians and banksters from ever being able to manipulate money again, it of course does this to the foreign politicians and bankers of the foreign fiat coin also currently in use there.

Why does the Frente want their own fiat? So they can repeat another bolivar (current worst hyperinflation on Earth). And Arena, probably the same thing. Funny how those two supposedly opposite parties converge against Bitcoin. Its good for them to be against it, it means its good.
866  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin.org hacked. on: September 24, 2021, 01:44:56 PM
Ah yes a good old fashioned doubler scam. This is a typical deface, with the deface being the scam itself. Its sad that so many people are foolish to send their money to such obvious scammers.



Wow,,, I used to think such people actually did not exist but now I found one. So you actually use bitcointalk and use Bitcoin and yet never used Bitcoin.org in your life ever? How did you learn about Bitcoin and what was your source? People have argued with me soon Bitcoin.org will never even be known and I thought that is ridiculous.

I barely ever use that site, i have no need for it. I think i went once to download the whitepaper or something, or to do a quick glimpse at other wallets available. As for your question, about where to learn about Bitcoin, the answer is obvious: Bitcointalk Smiley

You see, actual newbies will sadly land into bitcoin.com, if they aren't savvy enough to distinguish a legit site from a deface, they are even less to notice .com to .org

It takes a minimal level of understanding that .org meant non-profit organization and .com is the opposite, a commercial site. But even those old customs seem to be fading away so. In the end, the only place with some trust is here, and this may be attacked as well so you have to be wary, the internet is never a safe place.
867  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All crypto declared illegal in China!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 24, 2021, 01:40:20 PM
Of course it is, that is what socialism is all about: The State is supreme. Bitcoin circumvents the State, so this is the natural reaction. The central bank is the natural enemy of Bitcoin, because Bitcoin makes banks and central banks obsolete. However it is a technology, so its like banning electricity because it may end the job of the gas lamp industry.

In this case it is very clear: Bitcoin removes the State and Banks power over money. Let it be, the wealth they reject will flow elsewhere, in the end they cannot stop it, no matter what.
868  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Estatua en Hungría - Todos somos Satoshi on: September 20, 2021, 04:32:18 PM
Ah, Hungría, el país del infame pengo. Venezuela pronto te va superar como la peor hiperinflación de la historia, vamos por buen camino...



Egymilliard es un millón de millones, es decir, un billón en la escala larga.

El pengo perdió 29 ceros en 1 año. El bolivar va por 14 ceros en 13 años, y el marco alemán tras la primera guerra 12 ceros en 10 años.


Puedes optar salirte de esto: compra bitcoin y guardalo en tu propia wallet, sin banqueros ni políticos, nunca mas.

Quote
No tienes porqué morir luchando por
cambiar el sistema.
Sal del sistema y morirá por si
solo.
La política monetaria de un gobierno es
la piedra angular que
les otorga poder sobre su
pueblo para hacer lo que les plazca con cero
consecuencias.

Salte.
Usa Bitcoin.
869  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: will Paraguay be the next to make Bitcoin ‘official currency’ on: September 20, 2021, 04:26:27 PM
Well i hope they do, if they want to bring even more investors beyond mining, which is a good idea for the long term as mining won't be profitable forever.

They have their own fiat coin, they can have both as legal tender during the transition, until people stops bothering with fiat on their own.

If they do it, they will seize an opportunity that isn't coming back again. So they could have in South America a big advantage, simply by adopting first. But time is of the essence, all we wonder now is which country will be the second, then the third, fourth...

The first ones get more wealth early. The world market isn't going to wait for the politicians.
870  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool on: September 20, 2021, 03:51:37 PM
Still no blocks. Congratulations in operating the fastest and better connected pool that nobody uses. Its not 2015 anymore...

Small pools can exist all they want, but who is going to wait a year for a block? That is why ckpool stopped. Funny how you keep bad mouthing CK instead of delivering actual code, i guess its more fun criticize others than working yourself.

When mining shrinks back down in the future, who knows. You are welcome to operate the last pplns pool forever.
871  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Can't mine on NH with Avalons on: September 20, 2021, 03:35:03 PM
The old miners don't work with asicboost
The new miners don't work without asicboost

Canaan added asicboost with the 10xx series if i recall correctly.

No #xnsub should work with degraded hashrate. You just cannot switch coins fast enough without this, it is what it is.
872  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Legalizacion de mineria en Venezuela on: September 17, 2021, 02:41:20 AM
Puede que los Turcos, pero tanto Rusia como Irán tienen mejores condiciones en sus propios países. En Rusia está la zona de Siberia que el propio Putin da ventajas atractivas a los mineros (a diferencia de Venezuela) y en Irán la situación energética está mejor que en Venezuela, pero los grandes mineros se instalan su propia generación eléctrica (gas natural, por ejemplo) y les sale aun mas barato y mas rentable.

Mas tendría sentido atraer a los Europeos, que tienen la electricidad mas cara y suelen tener mas dinero, aunque las sanciones probablemente no ayuden. Irán con las mismas sanciones mantienen su sistema eléctrico nacional funcionando, con centrales nucleares, una de ellas la permanente causa de la discordia internacional, pero también con fuentes hidroeléctricas, etc.

Venezuela perdió muchos ingresos económicos, gracias a las políticas erradas de gastar mas de lo que se tiene. Supongo que por eso ahora reabrieron los casinos luego de una década de prohibición...
873  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Chivo Wallet una realidad | El Salvador on: September 17, 2021, 02:28:17 AM

2.-Incluir en el discurso oficial o Informar sobre las opciones de otras Wallet. Explicar que son las centralizadas y las que no lo son, el anonimato, etc.

En otras palabras eliminar el paternalismo* y enseñar a "Ser Tu Propio Banco"  Smiley

Eso sería genial pero no podemos esperar que sea el propio Estado quien enseñe a la gente a no depender del Estado, si los "opositores" entendieran Bitcoin, no estarían actuando contra Bitcoin mas bien lo abrazarían porque eso los independiza de Bukele que tanto odian, siempre y cuando no usen Chivo. Pero considerando que la oposición son un partido "Nacionalista" fundado por un General en los 80 y el otro una coalición de los comunistas/socialistas (pro Estado todo poderoso anti-libre mercado) del siglo pasado, pues no puede esperarse otra cosa.

Que dirán los anarquistas al ver esta gente grafiteando consignas anti Bitcoin e incendiando cajeros... Bueno lo segundo se entiende porque es del Estado, ¿pero lo primero? Absurdo totalmente. Sin embargo este par de partidos ya decidieron que Bitcoin es Bukele, así es su nivel intelectual.
874  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Cointelegraph - 10 Juegos Blockchain on: September 17, 2021, 02:04:05 AM
En su momento en un post como el tuyo LUCKYMCFLY nos dejaba un post con:

 Crypto Juego Axie Infinity
....//...:

Para la fecha que èl público ese post creo que los Axies estaban en $22 algo así, en días pasados alguien me pregunto por estos bichitos y por supuesto que recordé el post, justo ahora andan por los $66 bueno hace días que los consulte, a mí en realidad me da igual pues no es mi "radar" o al menos no lo era pero actualmente algo estoy mirando, pero vale decir que a la persona le afecto bastante  Smiley y con razón pues cada bichito no costaba menos de $300.

Por ese motivo llegó al techo, el costo de ingreso es demasiado alto para su público objetivo, el juego exige 3 para empezar así que son 900 dólares. Es muy parecido a los viejos token, combinado un poco con los esquemas multinivel, en la medida que va entrando dinero infla e infla pero llega un punto que solo los que ya están adentro pueden seguir.

Hay algunos trader especulando como es natural con los token del juego, pero ya eso es igual a los token tradicionales, con el añadido de que mientras el juego crecía, la demanda también. Pero ahora que está en el techo, solo los que siguen adentro demandan. Puede que aun le quede algo pero ya dio la mayoría, quien entró al principio y salió ya pues hizo lo que podía hacer.

Ahora hay otro tema que es que a nivel mundial hay sobre-saturación de NFTs y "jueguitos" por el estilo, que tienen poco de juego y mucho de trabajo casi esclavo para los pobres "asalariados" que le trabajan a los que entraron primero y abrieron cuentas para que otros las manejen.

Pienso que al igual que la locura de los token en 2017, este tema de los NFT (los token no fungibles) también pasarán de moda, sencillamente son demasiados y el mercado no da para todos.

Mira que gastar 900 dólares por un juego tan aburrido y hasta tedioso, con eso cualquiera compra video consola nueva y varios juegos AAA. Lo otro es verlo como "minería" y eso es trabajo no entretenimiento, y a diferencia de bitcoin, esto es tanto o mas efímero que las altcoins.
875  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: what asic miners did you choose? on: September 16, 2021, 06:39:32 PM
Useless? I think you have a LOT to learn... But you can always sell it, its your loss (in the future you will cry for having sold).

How much you have isn't as important as how much the electricity will cost. That's what matters in the end. Europe is too expensive, unless you find opportunity with renewable sources or wasted energy such as from a refinery or oil rig.
876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Germany have too many Bitcoin Nodes. on: September 16, 2021, 06:18:47 PM
Starting a node is painful when your internet is garbage, as in my country where it takes months so sync. It can't be helped, it is what it is. From that you can also guess the amount of people here using core...

There is no such a thing as "too many" nodes in a country, there is however a lack of nodes in too many places.
877  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dollar supporters destroy Bitcoin ATM in El Salvador on: September 16, 2021, 06:02:59 PM
Astounded by the amazing success of Bitcoin implementation in El Salvador, anti-social elements sponsored by the USD lobby have started vandalizing and destroying the Bitcoin ATMs installed by the government. The Bitcoin implementation has proceeded relatively smoothly and this has angered those who were expecting it to fail. I don't expect them to stop with this. The next step may be rioters beating up anyone who is using Bitcoin and vandalizing shops that accept BTC as a payment mode.

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As i said in another thread, here is the kind of people protesting "against Bitcoin" in El Salvador:



Her argument? "There is no price fixing".

The cap she is wearing is important, it is the symbol of the current ruling power in Venezuela. You know, THE people who made the current world's worst fiat. So she wants the same thing in El Salvador, a coin that has lost 14 zeroes in 13 years, a coin that had its price "fixed" by decree in 2004 (a peg), to 1600 Bs per USD. Today, even with the USD losing value, you need 402036337000 per USD, but because they slashed 3 zeroes in 2008, and 5 zeroes in 2018, it is currently expressed as 4020363.37. BUT, next month they slashed 6 zeroes so it would be 4, more likely 5 by October. How long until they slash zeroes again? I give it a year at most. They think they have "defeated capitalism" and won with the infinite money making machine...

Who is exactly Arena and FMLN? The traditional parties that have ensured eternal poverty in El Salvador? The first calls themselves "Nationalist Republic" a "right wing" party founded by a General in 1981, the second is a joint of "left wing" communist and socialist parties typical of the of the 20th century.

And BOTH are marching against Bitcoin, but only because the current president is independent of these two. They probably don't know and don't care about Bitcoin, just that Bukele won the popular vote and now they "claim" that people don't want Bitcoin. Is it any surprise that those would resort to violence? That says A LOT of the kind of people this opposition is.

Opposition to freedom, from the very same State they claim is imposing on them, how ironic, it is because they don't REALLY know Bitcoin.

I don't care about Bukele but attacking Bitcoin is absolute ignorance or worse, people getting manipulated for the ulterior motive of them trying to regain power. Hopefully the vast majority knows the truth.
878  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Chivo Wallet una realidad | El Salvador on: September 15, 2021, 08:25:03 PM
Esta bien y es hasta normal que durante la transición existan procesadores de pago, y banca etc interesados en mediar. Pero con el tiempo en lo que la gente entienda tendrán menos y menos relevancia. Las billeteras "custodial" son, una opción. No una necesidad. La banca va a encogerse, sencillamente el nuevo mundo no la necesita, ese proceso ya no tiene marcha atrás, incluso si abrazan las criptomonedas.

He dicho en otras ocasiones que no es de extrañar que algunos bancos se vuelvan exchange o tengan la función de ambos. Aquí lo peculiar es que hay un Estado volcado al servicio del procesamiento de pagos, usando la gente de Athena etc.

Independientemente de este hecho, o de que existan opositores a Bitcoin, sin duda que esto está moviendo al mundo entero. Ahora la pregunta es ¿quien va seguir a El Salvador?. Muchos países aceptan Bitcoin como valor, pero no lo consideran moneda de curso legal como ya lo hace El Salvador, hito histórico mundial que nunca nadie les podrá arrebatar.
879  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Legalizacion de mineria en Venezuela on: September 15, 2021, 08:17:42 PM
Yo diría latitud y longitud, es una cosa muy específica de este país. Sin embargo, acá sabemos muy bien para lo que valen las leyes y decretos a la hora de la verdad...

Sigue siendo un país demasiado hostil para minería. Y la extorsión por funcionarios lleva años, incluyendo la parte de que se les va castigar pero siguen haciéndolo. Así son las cosas aquí.
880  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool on: September 15, 2021, 07:59:49 PM
What makes you think i was even answering to the previous poster? The fact remains: Con Kolivas did the right thing. In comparison, 2021 is almost gone, no blocks in a certain pplns pool. The people who didn't left in the previous block, cannot leave now without incurring in heavy losses, so pretty much the next one should be the last. At least a responsible operator had the decency to close the pool when the exact same thing happened, unlike certain someone.

Of course this is just my personal opinion, everyone is free to use the pool they wish.
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