Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison

[uknohowwedo]

damn no parole thats some shit

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[JJB]

Amir Taaki talking about the multiple personas DPR moniker:

http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/

“Years ago, when I messaged the Silk Road, I had a conversation with the Dread Pirate Roberts – a very personal conversation where he was [talking] about how one day he hopes to be on the outside struggling for freedom together. You know, not having to hide his identity. One year [or] two years later when I messaged the guy — I’m pretty certain it was not the same guy. The tone was completely different. He had no recollection of the events that happened before, and his attitude to me was in stark contrast to the exuberant and wordy Dread Pirate Roberts of the early days. So, free Ross Ulbricht.”

I have no reason to believe this and at the end of the day it's just his opinion. Ross was caught red handed both in setting the site up and running it when he was caught do I don't really buy the different person excuse.

[TKeenan]

damn no parole thats some shit

Now that he has been waking up everyday in the same cell he is going to spend the rest of his life and it is all starting to sink in, I wonder how he feels about everything.  I'll bet it is now, for the very first time, that he is truly shitting bricks.  Somehow denial protects you in the beginning.  Not any more.

[dodgecharger]

Life in prison without parole.  He'll never set foot outside of prison again for the rest of his life.
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did

[gentlemand]

Life in prison without parole.  He'll never set foot outside of prison again for the rest of his life.
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did

Plenty of morons serving life thought they could outwit the system.

He was an object lesson in how not to do it - staying in the US, revealing his email address in the early days, keeping journals, running a centralised site.

It's impossible to be sure that you're uncatchable, but there's plenty there for others to learn from and do better.

[forevernoob]

Life in prison without parole.  He'll never set foot outside of prison again for the rest of his life.
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did

Tougher sentencing has never lowered crime rates AFAIK.

[kenbytes]

I do sort of feel bad for the guy. Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.

[Dajve]

Life in prison without parole.  He'll never set foot outside of prison again for the rest of his life.
I wonder if this will deter others, or do most people think they will never be caught, like he did

Tougher sentencing has never lowered crime rates AFAIK.

I think it will certainly deter some people from thinking about starting a darknet market, but for most it wont stop them and there will always be people willing to take the risk.

[MUFC]

One thing I know for sure is if you're going to start a market you need to make damn sure you've got everything covered and as a minimum I wouldn't reside in the united States or any country that has an extradition treaty with them. Go start it in some country in the middle of nowhere but personally I don't think the paranoia would be worth the risk even for multi millions and I bet if you ask Ross now he would certainly say it wasn't worth it.

I do sort of feel bad for the guy. Living every day for the rest of your life in those conditions could be a fate worse than death.

It's harsh for sure, but I think Ross will be clining to an appeal right now and that will be getting him through but it's not looking good that's for sure.

[S4VV4S]

One thing I know for sure is if you're going to start a market you need to make damn sure you've got everything covered and as a minimum I wouldn't reside in the united States or any country that has an extradition treaty with them. Go start it in some country in the middle of nowhere but personally I don't think the paranoia would be worth the risk even for multi millions and I bet if you ask Ross now he would certainly say it wasn't worth it.

And I bet that if you asked him while he was still free and running Silk Road he would say it was....
Let's be honest here

I do agree with all of you that life without parole is worse than death.
There is however an extremely small (more like almost non-existant) chance he might be able to get a possibility for parole on his appeal.

[QuestionAuthority]

Let's stop by Ross's place and see if he wants to go out for some wood fired pizza and a few beers. Oh wait, we can't, I forgot that he decided to go to prison for the rest of his life.

[funkenstein]

It is clearly to set a strong example, They don't want 10 others to do the same. If they give 20 years some people will take their chance

Well they got 100 others to do the same. 

http://qntra.net/2015/06/online-drug-trade-booming-despite-silk-road-shut-down-ulbrichts-subsequent-life-sentence/


Don't make the mistake of imagining a dying, insane, self-destructive monster to be making decisions for reasons.  Sentences like Ross's and indeed most of the well-named criminal justice system (and yes it goes on up but I'll stop there) actually have the following logic to them:

"Aaaarrrrghhh  life sucks nobody loves me I'm so afraid heelllllp  arrrrgghh  kill mee"

That's the real reasoning going on here behind this kind of decision.  Not "to set an example"  and most certainly not "to help society", though clearly nobody EVER has suggested the latter. 

[dserrano5]

I think it will certainly deter some people from thinking about starting a darknet market, but for most it wont stop them and there will always be people willing to take the risk.

It will deter some people from starting a darknet market and publishing their personal gmail account in relation to it.

[AGD]

I think it will certainly deter some people from thinking about starting a darknet market, but for most it wont stop them and there will always be people willing to take the risk.

It will deter some people from starting a darknet market and publishing their personal gmail account in relation to it.

I don't think so. Best example: Blake Benthall made the same error on Silkroad 2 and got busted.

[funkenstein]

Amir Taaki talking about the multiple personas DPR moniker:

http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/

“Years ago, when I messaged the Silk Road, I had a conversation with the Dread Pirate Roberts – a very personal conversation where he was [talking] about how one day he hopes to be on the outside struggling for freedom together. You know, not having to hide his identity. One year [or] two years later when I messaged the guy — I’m pretty certain it was not the same guy. The tone was completely different. He had no recollection of the events that happened before, and his attitude to me was in stark contrast to the exuberant and wordy Dread Pirate Roberts of the early days. So, free Ross Ulbricht.”

I have no reason to believe this and at the end of the day it's just his opinion. Ross was caught red handed both in setting the site up and running it when he was caught do I don't really buy the different person excuse.

See what you wrote here?  He was caught red handed "setting the site up" and "running it".

A website.  Voluntary participation for willing participants, none of whom are even in the court with complaints.  

For this: we are to pay his hotel bill for decades.  

The most shocking part about it is how primed you people are to just accept this idiocy.  

You really want to pay 100 BTC a year to correctional facility managers because "he published his email" ?  

[MUFC]

I think it will certainly deter some people from thinking about starting a darknet market, but for most it wont stop them and there will always be people willing to take the risk.

It will deter some people from starting a darknet market and publishing their personal gmail account in relation to it.

No matter how careful you have been it is very very difficult to become an untraceable ghost on the internet or even the darknet. It only takes one tiny slip up and you're done and your life is over. I couldn't even imagine the stress or paranoia it would cause being in charge of one of these markets. Hopefully decentralized ones will get rid of the issue of their owner fucking up and taking your coins with it.

I think it will certainly deter some people from thinking about starting a darknet market, but for most it wont stop them and there will always be people willing to take the risk.

It will deter some people from starting a darknet market and publishing their personal gmail account in relation to it.

I don't think so. Best example: Blake Benthall made the same error on Silkroad 2 and got busted.

He said some. There will always be fools and people who fuck up. I think satoshi is probably one of the only people who is qualified to set up one of these sites and remain anon. Maybe the powers that be could track him down if he did something like this, though.

[S4VV4S]

I think it will certainly deter some people from thinking about starting a darknet market, but for most it wont stop them and there will always be people willing to take the risk.

It will deter some people from starting a darknet market and publishing their personal gmail account in relation to it.

I don't think so. Best example: Blake Benthall made the same error on Silkroad 2 and got busted.

What was his sentence btw?
Did he get life without parole?

Eveyone is talking about Ross and I haven't heard about him.
How did he get busted btw?

[gentlemand]

What was his sentence btw?
Did he get life without parole?

Eveyone is talking about Ross and I haven't heard about him.
How did he get busted btw?

It all seems a little bit murky at present.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1136505.0

[AGD]

Amir Taaki talking about the multiple personas DPR moniker:

http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/

“Years ago, when I messaged the Silk Road, I had a conversation with the Dread Pirate Roberts – a very personal conversation where he was [talking] about how one day he hopes to be on the outside struggling for freedom together. You know, not having to hide his identity. One year [or] two years later when I messaged the guy — I’m pretty certain it was not the same guy. The tone was completely different. He had no recollection of the events that happened before, and his attitude to me was in stark contrast to the exuberant and wordy Dread Pirate Roberts of the early days. So, free Ross Ulbricht.”

I have no reason to believe this and at the end of the day it's just his opinion. Ross was caught red handed both in setting the site up and running it when he was caught do I don't really buy the different person excuse.

See what you wrote here?  He was caught red handed "setting the site up" and "running it".

A website.  Voluntary participation for willing participants, none of whom are even in the court with complaints.  

For this: we are to pay his hotel bill for decades.  

The most shocking part about it is how primed you people are to just accept this idiocy.  

You really want to pay 100 BTC a year to correctional facility managers because "he published his email" ?  

I never said that. Learn reading quotes.

[AGD]

I think it will certainly deter some people from thinking about starting a darknet market, but for most it wont stop them and there will always be people willing to take the risk.

It will deter some people from starting a darknet market and publishing their personal gmail account in relation to it.

No matter how careful you have been it is very very difficult to become an untraceable ghost on the internet or even the darknet. It only takes one tiny slip up and you're done and your life is over. I couldn't even imagine the stress or paranoia it would cause being in charge of one of these markets. Hopefully decentralized ones will get rid of the issue of their owner fucking up and taking your coins with it.

I think it will certainly deter some people from thinking about starting a darknet market, but for most it wont stop them and there will always be people willing to take the risk.

It will deter some people from starting a darknet market and publishing their personal gmail account in relation to it.

I don't think so. Best example: Blake Benthall made the same error on Silkroad 2 and got busted.

He said some. There will always be fools and people who fuck up. I think satoshi is probably one of the only people who is qualified to set up one of these sites and remain anon. Maybe the powers that be could track him down if he did something like this, though.

You are right. Some people will avoid to use their real name email address when commiting crime, but people can make a lot of other errors. What about the legion of Tor users? They feel safe, but some of them - depending on their configuration - are still showing their real IP through a DNS leak.
Even Satoshi can't be aware about every 0-day around.