What's your opinion of gun control?

[earceny]

For me it's all about freedom. The 2nd Amendment gives us the right to keep and bear arms. That right has been infringed upon enough. Gun control is a joke. How would you like to live in a society where only the police and criminals had guns ? Not me.

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[tvbcof]

I have leaved this thread for years but it's still alive lol. Too bad seems Wilikon is not online here anymore.

He's been around at least fairly recently as 'Robby Love' or something like that.  He claims that the mods kicked him out as Wilikon.  This does not align real well with _most_ of my experience with _most_ of the mods here...at least the ones who held onto their moderator bit, but I won't rule his story out.  He did seem to have a knack for starting never-ending threads, and on topics which I could imagine pissing people with particular political leanings off.  OTOH, I cannot remember anything by him being nearly as offensive as from certain others (such as myself.)

[Oxyartes]

Only slaves are not allowed to have guns

[jayce]

He's been around at least fairly recently as 'Robby Love' or something like that.  He claims that the mods kicked him out as Wilikon.  This does not align real well with _most_ of my experience with _most_ of the mods here...at least the ones who held onto their moderator bit, but I won't rule his story out.  He did seem to have a knack for starting never-ending threads, and on topics which I could imagine pissing people with particular political leanings off.  OTOH, I cannot remember anything by him being nearly as offensive as from certain others (such as myself.)

Ah I see, yeah I just found that name and seems he is not active since October. I remember in the past some people here wanted him to be moderator for this board because of his high activity opening new threads lol.

Anybody needs a gun in our society, only policeman must have it. People make our environment more dangerous than ever with guns.

Everyone needs to protect his life and family, and policemen cant handle all of criminal case in a city. Who will protect us then? As long as we dont have mental illness and never do something bad before, its reasonable for us to get a gun, especially with so many criminals out there who have illegal guns.

[tvbcof]

Only slaves are not allowed to have guns

God made goyim as a sort of cattle-like creatures to serve the Jews, and pressure for gun control in the United States is one of those things which seems to be strongly pushed by Jewish lawmakers in particular.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLLckyRpwr0

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zy227hN5B0

Don't believe me about the relationship between God's chosen and the goyim?  Look into the Talmud (aka, 'oral torah') and/or listen to the spiels of some of the Hasidim and Rabbis when they don't figure there will be any goyim paying attention.

[Oxyartes]

For me it's all about freedom. The 2nd Amendment gives us the right to keep and bear arms. That right has been infringed upon enough. Gun control is a joke. How would you like to live in a society where only the police and criminals had guns ? Not me.

You are right!!

[Bloody Mary]

I see gun control as disarming the law obeying people (and keep the criminals armed, as they don't care about gun control), for eliminating the ability of citizens to resist/challenge the state/tyranny.

[Cyberfox]

Different countries and different regions have different needs. In Texas where the distance between settlements is high you need something to defend. But in New York where people are close by the need of guns is not that important.

[BADecker]

Why Did it Have to be ... Guns?

People accuse me of being a single-issue writer, a single-issue thinker, and a single-issue voter, but it isn't true. What I've chosen, in a world where there's never enough time and energy, is to focus on the one political issue which most clearly and unmistakably demonstrates what any politician—or political philosophy—is made of, right down to the creamy liquid center.

Make no mistake: all politicians—even those ostensibly on the side of guns and gun ownership—hate the issue and anyone, like me, who insists on bringing it up. They hate it because it's an X-ray machine. It's a Vulcan mind-meld. It's the ultimate test to which any politician—or political philosophy—can be put.

If a politician isn't perfectly comfortable with the idea of his average constituent, any man, woman, or responsible child, walking into a hardware store and paying cash—for any rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything—without producing ID or signing one scrap of paper, he isn't your friend no matter what he tells you.

Read more at http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2018/tle957-20180121-02.html.

[Peperi]

Only policemen should have the authorization to wear a gun. The rest is just no-sens.

[Elain A.]

Our guns aren't going anywhere, the Govt. is not capable of taking them all. It's logistically not feasible.

[BADecker]

Only policemen should have the authorization to wear a gun. The rest is just no-sens.

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[DukeCrypt]

Most firearms of all kinds are already widely available in the United States. No doubt any criminal can choose the gun to his liking but I don't consider this a weighty argument for making gun even more accessible.

[tvbcof]

Most firearms of all kinds are already widely available in the United States. No doubt any criminal can choose the gun to his liking but I don't consider this a weighty argument for making gun even more accessible.

The FBI concluded that criminals with 'grade up' if their preferred weapon is not available.  That is, they will tend to choose a weapon which is more lethal rather than less.

They also concluded that criminal require weapons for protection against their own peers so going without is a non-option no matter what the law says...and as a reminder to the not-so-bright, these people are classified as 'criminals' because of their interaction with laws.  This self-protection against their own is one of their primary incentive for carrying weapons while using them for criminal endeavors tends to be more secondary.

When confronted with these facts most 'progressives' will probably argue that if guns were made illegal then criminals will drop their criminal ways and go to med school.  Especially if it's free.  My belief is that most 2018 vintage progressives are border-line retarded.  Particularly when it comes to system analysis.

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In real life, a few weeks ago a neighbor of mine who's husband died a few years ago was burglarized while she was away on travel.  A sharp-eyed neighbor saw the criminals leaving her driveway, investigate, and called the cops.  The perps were caught after a car and foot chase.

The perps were meth heads as is usual for my area.  They made the mistake of stealing a few guns.  Had they not, they would have spend a few weeks in the county jail.  Since the crime did involve guns, they will be going to the federally operated big-house for some number of years.

I point this out because the FBI report I mentioned suggested increasing penalties for gun related crimes.  Very common-sense and it has worked;  gun related crimes plateaued after this action was put into place a few decades ago and have been declining ever since.  Basically criminals are pretty aware of how the law works and take pains to avoid performing crimes with or relating to guns.  People who constantly say 'we need laws' don't know their asses from their elbows.  We've got plenty of laws, and they work remarkably well.

[huanzhong644306]

Attempts to tighten gun control has never led to anything. In the world where you have freedom people have the right to arms. Protect your family and life can only be man himself.

So in my opinion, we don't need to control guns, because even if we make laws about gun control, bad people don't follow the rules.

[maann23]

I'm pro gun control. If the selling and usage of gun is regulated to people who only is fit to have one, then it can be really helpful to avoid bad incidents.

[agus_sna]

I think that gun control is necessary, because if the weapon is not controlled then the result of the war is a failure, so controlling the weapons is necessary, but not just the controlled weapons but also the controllers,
thank you

[Gotumoot]

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

It use by protection if risk or something bad happen , now a days people with gun think theyre cool. So to be honest learn the basic gun control first is whether you are angry on something at dont use your gun just to release your anger or stress. Next is always secure your gun daily , keep them away from the children and always put your gun on the safe mode thats all. And its like a power though so be responsible.

[yutakeo]

Gun 'control' affects the law abiding people.  It also affects those who are not law abiding.  So, gun control does create a barrier to owning this kind of lethal weapon.  Sure one can find a merchant who will sell a gun illegally but you need to find such a person.

The drive to own a gun is similar to the "arms race" between nations.  The house robber down the street has a knife.  I had better get a sword.  Now that I have the sword, the house robber decides he needs a hand gun.  It should be easier to obtain legally than illegally.  At least that will make it a deterrent for robbing rather than a tool for robbing.

Gun control slows down the arms race between individuals in society.  There are other defensive ways you can protect your home.  One is to have multiple locks on the door.  An alarm system so the robber doesn't have the element of surprise.  Avoid indicating that you are not home.  Don't announce to the whole world when you are going on vacation.

sdp

I agreed with you.

[cryptokitty]

In a place where there are some criminalities that are happening,  it is better to have a gun as a protectwfor yourself if ever there are someone are trying to hari you. For me,  everyone that has the skill and very responsible person should have it.