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August 15, 2016, 09:55:48 AM
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I found on Facebook an answer regarding the McDonald's contract. Maybe another lie... who knows...  Huh

Hello,

The deal with the Dutch McDonald's is a cooperation with one of our partners that is having the direct agreement with McDonald's. We are subcontractors. More details will be published soon.

Best regards,

Stella, Customer Support Specialist


Bullshit. They went from signing an agreement "with the Dutch Department of McDonalds", to signing an agreement "not with McDonald's the corporation but with some independent restaurants", to "well actually it wasn't us it was someone else and we'll totally have proof to show you soon".

Let me explain once more, McDonald's would never allow their multi-billion-dollar global brand to be associated with what is clearly a crappy little plastics recycling company running a global ponzi 'investment' scheme.

If you think that the main source of income is this scheme, it is wrong you think, the main source of business is plastic recycling!
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August 15, 2016, 10:28:04 AM
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If you think that the main source of income is this scheme, it is wrong you think, the main source of business is plastic recycling!

I've already provided information which shows there is barely any profit to be had in plastics recycling, if any, due to the collapse in oil prices over the past few years. The 'profit' they claim to be offering their 'investors' is simply beyond the reach of most businesses, let alone those in recycling.

We're more than aware, however, of your desperate need to shill for this ponzi scam even in the face of the known facts.


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August 16, 2016, 01:06:37 PM
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Just wanted to respond to this FB post on the subject:
Quote from: Recyclix Facebook page

I'd like to know why you consider me to not be thorough with my information gathering only to offer up the fact I haven't referenced these 'open days' as though they provide for some kind of revelatory proof that I am ignoring.

Whether they are paying a recycling centre to plaster their logo in photo-friendly places while they show a bunch of people wandering around in hard-hats, or that they do actually own a plastics recycling centre, the fact is these 'open days' are irrelevant to organised scammers who stand to make steal millions of dollars through putting up a façade of legitimacy by way of spending a tiny tiny fraction of their deposits on an 'open day' or having a stand at a trade conference.

The bullet-proof evidence, irrespective of whether there is a genuine recycling centre involved or not, that you can always use to cut through the bullshit is the simple truth that Recyclix is offering returns which FAR EXCEED most legitimate businesses in ANY INDUSTRY, let alone the plastics recycling industry which has seen a massive slump during these past few years owing to the crash in oil prices.

They simply cannot be making the degree of profit necessary to cover the return they are claiming to offer 'investors'.

That is how you know, without doubt, they are running a fraudulent investment operation.



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August 16, 2016, 10:31:19 PM
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http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/
check company validality.
Enter state: Polonia
Enter number of VAT: 5272725464
Good luck!
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August 16, 2016, 11:01:30 PM
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what does valid VATIN have to do with this? you can totally run a ponzi with one just like many others have done before. cryptodevil just told you what its called: facade of legitimacy

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August 17, 2016, 03:48:11 AM
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http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/
check company validality.
Enter state: Polonia
Enter number of VAT: 5272725464
Good luck!

So you're saying they can pay VAT? How does that prevent them from being a ponzi?
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http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/
check company validality.
Enter state: Polonia
Enter number of VAT: 5272725464
Good luck!

So you're saying they can pay VAT? How does that prevent them from being a ponzi?

Forget! They try to use kind of low, but that have nothing with real world.. Too much to explain. Anyway they have nothing to do with real low in Poland. If you will need that .. in short time we will get confirmations. Everything is correct!

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August 18, 2016, 11:44:27 AM
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The aspect of this which frustrates me the most is the fact Recyclix have clearly become driven to open up offices in very poor countries, particularly countries which have very lax oversight and financial supervision.

Now these offices aren't anything to do with recycling plastic, they exist solely to convince people to give them money.

Most of us didn't give too much of a fuck when Bernie Madoff predominantly ripped off very wealthy, greedy people. But Recyclix are deliberately targeting the kind of people who work exceedingly hard for whatever little money they have and who dream of an opportunity which might help them turn it into something a little more substantial to build on for their family's future.

Once these slimebags start getting into these people's heads about 'compounding profit' and 'passive income' they aren't dreaming of hookers and blow, they are dreaming of being able to lift themselves out of poverty.

These are real people. When this precarious ponzi topples, and it will as mathematics proves it will, they will become real victims.

Perversely enough the only way to help right now, if you have any money in this scam, is to cause a run on withdrawals and bring down the house of cards as soon as possible in order to stop them being able to recruit any more of the impoverished and desperate. I urge anyone reading this who has money 'invested' with this ponzi scam to withdraw it all and encourage anyone else you know to do so as well.




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August 19, 2016, 12:22:30 AM
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Hello guys. I have read this topic and understood that recyclix.com are advanced Ponzi. But I have already sent to them 100 EUR (2016-08-16). So I have 120 EUR on my deposit and 600 kg of waste Grin I'm just asking what I can do?  Huh Better sell waste after 1 cycle (35 days) (Selling price € 90.00 + Gross profit € 16.80 = 106.80) and lose money, or after 3 cycle (105 days) (Selling price € 90.00 + Gross profit € 50.40 = 140.40) with profit. What do you think? And how long they will pay money before they will escape? Thank you  Wink   
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August 19, 2016, 01:59:14 AM
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Hello guys. I have read this topic and understood that recyclix.com are advanced Ponzi. But I have already sent to them 100 EUR (2016-08-16). So I have 120 EUR on my deposit and 600 kg of waste Grin I'm just asking what I can do?  Huh Better sell waste after 1 cycle (35 days) (Selling price € 90.00 + Gross profit € 16.80 = 106.80) and lose money, or after 3 cycle (105 days) (Selling price € 90.00 + Gross profit € 50.40 = 140.40) with profit. What do you think? And how long they will pay money before they will escape? Thank you  Wink   

Why are you saying "lose money" if you put 100 EUR in and can get 106.80 EUR out? Don't look at the 120 EUR number, it's fake, it doesn't exist, it depends on other people bringing new money and thinking like you are now: "if I just wait a little bit more...". Guess what, someone will be left holding the bag and you don't want to be that person.
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Hello guys. I have read this topic and understood that recyclix.com are advanced Ponzi. But I have already sent to them 100 EUR (2016-08-16). So I have 120 EUR on my deposit and 600 kg of waste Grin I'm just asking what I can do?  Huh Better sell waste after 1 cycle (35 days) (Selling price € 90.00 + Gross profit € 16.80 = 106.80) and lose money, or after 3 cycle (105 days) (Selling price € 90.00 + Gross profit € 50.40 = 140.40) with profit. What do you think? And how long they will pay money before they will escape? Thank you  Wink   
You don't need to use SELL function, if you dont need your money back, Sorry, but you did not understood how recyclix works. If you sent 100€ after 1 cycle you can return back only 75% of your capital with 3 weeks profit. It's 106€ - 25% = you got 79,5€, so, you need to calculate how much cycles you need to restart,  recyclix is long-time-term system is not HYIP, and not REVSHARE. 1 recycling cycle process 35 days. After 1 cycle you got + 14€ profit. If you wanna return your money you need to complete almost 4 cycles (it's 107,64€ - that you can withdraw) .  So if you don't like that recyclix conditions, take back your 79,5€ and go where you can grow up your money faster.
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Why are you saying "lose money" if you put 100 EUR in and can get 106.80 EUR out? Don't look at the 120 EUR number, it's fake, it doesn't exist, it depends on other people bringing new money and thinking like you are now: "if I just wait a little bit more...". Guess what, someone will be left holding the bag and you don't want to be that person.
Read this first! https://recyclix.com/paymentPolicy/
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Why are you saying "lose money" if you put 100 EUR in and can get 106.80 EUR out? Don't look at the 120 EUR number, it's fake, it doesn't exist, it depends on other people bringing new money and thinking like you are now: "if I just wait a little bit more...". Guess what, someone will be left holding the bag and you don't want to be that person.
Read this first! https://recyclix.com/paymentPolicy/

Actually I've read this and a lot of other bullshit on their website when I first came across this thread.

Again, how is all that tripe preventing them from being a ponzi?
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Why are you saying "lose money" if you put 100 EUR in and can get 106.80 EUR out? Don't look at the 120 EUR number, it's fake, it doesn't exist, it depends on other people bringing new money and thinking like you are now: "if I just wait a little bit more...". Guess what, someone will be left holding the bag and you don't want to be that person.
Read this first! https://recyclix.com/paymentPolicy/

Actually I've read this and a lot of other bullshit on their website when I first came across this thread.

Again, how is all that tripe preventing them from being a ponzi?
You will still find a reason that it is a Ponzi why you do not look for a number of reasons that this is not a Ponzi?
Basic functions on that system IS SELL AND BUY, like forex trading system.
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You will still find a reason that it is a Ponzi why you do not look for a number of reasons that this is not a Ponzi?
Basic functions on that system IS SELL AND BUY, like forex trading system.

The reasons why it's a ponzi have been eloquently laid out by cryptodevil, I don't have to look for that.

So far I haven't seen anything proving otherwise. T&Cs from their own site mean jack shit. Garza had gawesome T&Cs and ran a ponzi just the same. Replace hashlets with "waste" or whatever bullshit Recyclix is selling and there you have it.

And no, it's not "like forex trading system". You are not trading on an open market. You can't pack your shit up and go to another broker or exchange. There is one entity that controls everything. Even the link you provided clearly states "The User may not transfer the rights over waste, recycling materials or granules, as well as funds on the Account of his or her, to any third parties.". Pretty much the opposite of Forex or stock market or any other legitimate market you would like to compare it to.

Perhaps you should do some reading yourself. But then again, that would cut into your precious shilling time (was going to say "beer time" but I doubt that you make enough off your referrals to afford beer). Get a job. Seriously.
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Interesting topic. I haven't 'invested' in Recyclix and probably won't. Nobody knows for sure whether they're a scam or not but it sure looks like a real company. I even found that they're attending some fair this year - http://www.easyfairs.com/de/events_216/schuettgut-basel-2016_77984/schuettgut-basel-2016_77991/aussteller-produkte_78856/ausstellerkatalog_78863/stand/613046/ - Schüttgut basel 2016
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Interesting topic. I haven't 'invested' in Recyclix and probably won't. Nobody knows for sure whether they're a scam or not but it sure looks like a real company. I even found that they're attending some fair this year - http://www.easyfairs.com/de/events_216/schuettgut-basel-2016_77984/schuettgut-basel-2016_77991/aussteller-produkte_78856/ausstellerkatalog_78863/stand/613046/ - Schüttgut basel 2016
This company initiators is - Germany, who purchased domain from 2001 year, then they transfered domain and company to Poland in 2015...
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Interesting topic. I haven't 'invested' in Recyclix and probably won't. Nobody knows for sure whether they're a scam or not but it sure looks like a real company. I even found that they're attending some fair this year - http://www.easyfairs.com/de/events_216/schuettgut-basel-2016_77984/schuettgut-basel-2016_77991/aussteller-produkte_78856/ausstellerkatalog_78863/stand/613046/ - Schüttgut basel 2016

It isn't scam, it is mostly a ponzi. And yes, they try to look like a real company. But what proof this link? That they ordered a place on a fair trade. Does it make this company legit or give a hint to this? No.

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Interesting topic. I haven't 'invested' in Recyclix and probably won't. Nobody knows for sure whether they're a scam or not but it sure looks like a real company. I even found that they're attending some fair this year - http://www.easyfairs.com/de/events_216/schuettgut-basel-2016_77984/schuettgut-basel-2016_77991/aussteller-produkte_78856/ausstellerkatalog_78863/stand/613046/ - Schüttgut basel 2016

Is ultimately irrelevant whether they attend trade shows or even have a plastics recycling operation somewhere in their ponzi setup:

Whether they are paying a recycling centre to plaster their logo in photo-friendly places while they show a bunch of people wandering around in hard-hats, or that they do actually own a plastics recycling centre, the fact is these 'open days' are irrelevant to organised scammers who stand to make steal millions of dollars through putting up a façade of legitimacy by way of spending a tiny tiny fraction of their deposits on an 'open day' or having a stand at a trade conference.

The bullet-proof evidence, irrespective of whether there is a genuine recycling centre involved or not, that you can always use to cut through the bullshit is the simple truth that Recyclix is offering returns which FAR EXCEED most legitimate businesses in ANY INDUSTRY, let alone the plastics recycling industry which has seen a massive slump during these past few years owing to the crash in oil prices.

They simply cannot be making the degree of profit necessary to cover the return they are claiming to offer 'investors'.

That is how you know, without doubt, they are running a fraudulent investment operation.





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Update:

Recyclix has still not offered up any evidence of their claimed partnership-through-association-with-an-unnamed-third-party-company 'deal' with McDonald's Netherlands, which went from being 'The Netherlands' to 'Well, not The Netherlands, we actually meant some independent restaurants', to 'Wait, we didn't actually say it was us! No, silly, it is another company we're not naming that we have a deal with who has a deal with . . .'

What they have made sure to do, of course, is talk about how they've sent a group of their shills to another dirt-poor country and done a presentation to convince people to send them money:
Quote from: Recyclix Facebook
RECYCLIX NEWS

Less than two years ago Recyclix was only present in Eastern Europe. However, thanks to daily hard work and recognition by thousands of people around the world, Recyclix managed to go global during such a short period of time.

Today we’d like to share excellent news from our promotion and expansion department in Africa. On August 9 to 16 staff members of Recyclix Africa traveled to Lomé, Togo, to have a series of business meeting with investors and hold a conference about working with Recyclix on August 14 at Agora Senghor conference hall.

The conference proved to be a success and attracted numerous participants who enjoyed an exciting discussion about Recyclix workflow and benefits as well as an enlightening Q&A session. The Recyclix activities were covered by the national and private Togolese TV channels, TVT and LCF.

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Is Togo a poor country?
Poverty in Togo. LOMÉ, Togo — One of the smallest countries in Africa, Togo is bordered by Ghana to the west, Benin to the East and Burkina Faso to the North. Togo has a population of around 6.6 million people. Togo is one of the poorest countries in the world.

Remember, none of these promotions involves actual plastics recycling, the sole aim of these trips to impoverished nations with lack of financial oversight and enforcement is to convince more people to deposit money into their scheme and may well actually be part of the creation of a more effective means to disperse their European-based funds into far-flung opaque banking systems to prevent recovery when this ponzi scam collapses, which it will because of basic mathematics.





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