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April 07, 2017, 02:09:53 PM
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McCain loves war so much he armed and funded ISIS just so we could have someone to fight.


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April 07, 2017, 03:08:50 PM
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Excellent work IMO ^^^^^  And the potential jury pool needs to know this official story is not realistic and why.  Thank you very much!

Glad to do it.

After yesterday's absurd Gulf-of-Tonkin and pro-ISIS military action I have no doubt that Trump will continue to use the same bullshit false-flag tactics that Bush and Obama used.  I guess his handlers convinced him that we are just a bunch of ignorant goyim that they control through their corporate media empire and that they can tell us what to think.  Fact is the only reason a lot of us supported him was because we did NOT have any confidence in the mainstream media.  When he lost Bannon he lost that sort of insight I guess.

Now we know that we are on our own and have to watch out for our own asses.  Trump is clearly not going to protect the common gentiles from abuse by agency psy-ops, foundation eugenicists, big pharma drug pushers, big ag with their GMOs, global warming fraudsters with their geo-engineering, corrupt government (medical system scams, police state, civil asset forfeiture,etc) etc.

Lots of well respected people in the alternate media had their hunches about the guy.  Corbett, Melton, and Soetoro come to mind.  To yesterday the only real solid thing they had were hunches.  Now we know, and it's better that way.

After lying to our faces about the sarin thing and insulting us by re-using Obama's very same scam Trump has one possible way to re-gain anything resembling trust in my mind.  That would be if Assad himself comes out and says 'Yeah, Trump and I arranged this for {insert some complex political reason here.}'  That is entirely unlikely.

I won't rule out that Trump might not be as bad as Clinton, but that's a very low bar since there was every reason to believe that her mission was to put the nail in the coffin that Obama had already layed us into.  Trump might sell us off to owners that we can beat, especially if enough disenchanted and patriotic whistleblowers come out of the woodwork.  Many candidates here must be every bit as pissed off as I am.


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April 07, 2017, 04:32:59 PM
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A sorry state of affairs indeed.  Can you smell the hypocrisy and double standards?  Also, way to go for pissing off Russia in the process and escalating tensions unnecessarily.  How's that ETA on the wall coming? 

Dupes gonna get duped.

 

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April 07, 2017, 07:57:25 PM
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Happy to see the people here waking up.

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April 09, 2017, 01:18:19 PM
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He did just launch a missile attack on Syria so he is putting a stern outlook on him to the entire world.

I dunno. This strike, though highly publicized (this dominated the news cycle) was largely ineffectual. Struck a largely empty airfield, after giving them an advanced notice. Essentially, it seems like we paid many millions of dolkars to give Assad some free construction work. This kind of feels like a misdirection, a media event with a feel good component to distract from Russia.



Obumbo was reluctant to ash her... for me, what new tactical nuke can be used on the palace? Nuremberg bs are too slow and cumbersome.

Flash it, next, done, bbq+beer sunset. Why waste time.

And it's called the munition shuffling doctrine... bombs are like eggs, fresher one may not fly away Smiley

LMAO, when the eggs cost a few million a piece, I'd at least make an omelette for the dog to enjoy, rather than simply throw them into the street.

Im more at, we should have been chill in this, or at least waited a little to act. Preempting the investigation (although I'm pretty sure our intelligence will know more about it than the investigators) seemed brash in the court of global public opinion. Passing this by Congress might have softened the optics on this, but, ultimately would not have changed the outcome, I think.
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April 09, 2017, 03:21:34 PM
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He did just launch a missile attack on Syria so he is putting a stern outlook on him to the entire world.

I dunno. This strike, though highly publicized (this dominated the news cycle) was largely ineffectual. Struck a largely empty airfield, after giving them an advanced notice. Essentially, it seems like we paid many millions of dolkars to give Assad some free construction work. This kind of feels like a misdirection, a media event with a feel good component to distract from Russia.



Obumbo was reluctant to ash her... for me, what new tactical nuke can be used on the palace? Nuremberg bs are too slow and cumbersome.

Flash it, next, done, bbq+beer sunset. Why waste time.

And it's called the munition shuffling doctrine... bombs are like eggs, fresher one may not fly away Smiley

LMAO, when the eggs cost a few million a piece, I'd at least make an omelette for the dog to enjoy, rather than simply throw them into the street.

Im more at, we should have been chill in this, or at least waited a little to act. Preempting the investigation (although I'm pretty sure our intelligence will know more about it than the investigators) seemed brash in the court of global public opinion. Passing this by Congress might have softened the optics on this, but, ultimately would not have changed the outcome, I think.

A "largely ineffectual" military play? What's wrong with that?

Kind of like telling some punks to "watch out, or we'll come and stomp on you."

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April 09, 2017, 07:58:10 PM
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Uh-oh! Donald has a new toy.

We know the Trumps have blood-lust from their hunting fanaticism.

This is not good. 

He's gonna wanna play with more toys.

TAKE THE TOYS AWAY FROM THE BOYS!
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April 09, 2017, 08:11:03 PM
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LMAO, when the eggs cost a few million a piece, I'd at least make an omelette for the dog to enjoy, rather than simply throw them into the street.

Im more at, we should have been chill in this, or at least waited a little to act. Preempting the investigation (although I'm pretty sure our intelligence will know more about it than the investigators) seemed brash in the court of global public opinion. Passing this by Congress might have softened the optics on this, but, ultimately would not have changed the outcome, I think.

A "largely ineffectual" military play? What's wrong with that?

Kind of like telling some punks to "watch out, or we'll come and stomp on you."



Well, the punks didn't seem to be listening. There were subsequent gas attacks AFTER Trumps surgical strike, hours after, to be exact. Whoever perpetrated the gas attacks, they wanted to make sure they certainly finished the job.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/08/assad-trying-kill-everyone-survived-chemical-attack-says-resident/

I know you are all weird about mainstream media sources, so let me just pull content:


On Friday night and into Saturday morning, the northern rebel-held town was pummelled once again by Syrian warplanes.
The Sukhoi jets had taken off from al-Shayrat airbase, which just a matter of hours earlier was hit by 59 American Tomahawk cruise missiles, making apparent the limited nature of US President Donald Trump’s intervention.



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LMAO, when the eggs cost a few million a piece, I'd at least make an omelette for the dog to enjoy, rather than simply throw them into the street.

Im more at, we should have been chill in this, or at least waited a little to act. Preempting the investigation (although I'm pretty sure our intelligence will know more about it than the investigators) seemed brash in the court of global public opinion. Passing this by Congress might have softened the optics on this, but, ultimately would not have changed the outcome, I think.

A "largely ineffectual" military play? What's wrong with that?

Kind of like telling some punks to "watch out, or we'll come and stomp on you."



Well, the punks didn't seem to be listening. There were subsequent gas attacks AFTER Trumps surgical strike, hours after, to be exact. Whoever perpetrated the gas attacks, they wanted to make sure they certainly finished the job.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/08/assad-trying-kill-everyone-survived-chemical-attack-says-resident/

I know you are all weird about mainstream media sources, so let me just pull content:


On Friday night and into Saturday morning, the northern rebel-held town was pummelled once again by Syrian warplanes.
The Sukhoi jets had taken off from al-Shayrat airbase, which just a matter of hours earlier was hit by 59 American Tomahawk cruise missiles, making apparent the limited nature of US President Donald Trump’s intervention.





Ah...

Excuse me but I thought the point of the attack was a warning against using chemical munitions?

And the second attack did not use chemical munitions.
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April 09, 2017, 10:11:48 PM
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Ah...

Excuse me but I thought the point of the attack was a warning against using chemical munitions?

And the second attack did not use chemical munitions.

Some thought the point of the attack was something altogether different:

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The strike [was] the act of a weakened politician who needed to flex his muscles. In an analysis, Xinhua also said Mr. Trump had ordered the strike to distance himself from Syria’s backers in Moscow, to overcome accusations that he was “pro-Russia.”

I mean, the last few weeks haven't exactly been great for Trump and, as distractions go, this is kind of a big "look over here now and ignore all that other stuff that isn't flattering my ego".   Roll Eyes

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April 09, 2017, 10:42:35 PM
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Exactly so.  Trump is the Master of Deflection.
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April 10, 2017, 02:51:26 AM
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On Friday night and into Saturday morning, the northern rebel-held town was pummelled once again by Syrian warplanes.
The Sukhoi jets had taken off from al-Shayrat airbase, which just a matter of hours earlier was hit by 59 American Tomahawk cruise missiles, making apparent the limited nature of US President Donald Trump’s intervention.

Close to 15 fighter and bomber jets were destroyed during the American missile attacks. The base apparently had more than two dozen aircraft. Also, some of the damaged aircraft were quickly repaired by the ground staff.

 
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Through this all, even as I significantly supported Trump's election, I never gave it much more than a 50/50 chance that he was 'for real'.  After the Syria thing I think that he should be considered likely quite dangerous to most Americans (even if he doesn't get us into a nuclear war or allow the generals to do it.)  As one-time Dem candidate Jim Webb said a year ago when people were trying to figure the guy out, 'a Trump presidency could go either very good or very bad.'  We have to seriously contemplate the 'very bad' as a distinct possibility.  Or at least I'll be doing so.

I'm sure I mentioned it somewhere in this or similar threads, but one of the reasons for the intensive data collections by everyone, but especial the corp parts of corp/gov is to feed what are known as 'rational agents'.  These are programs (for lack of a better description) which act as likenesses of an individual.  Simulations can be run on groups of them and messages can be tuned based on the output.  Currently they are used mostly to market consumer shit.  When someone says to many of the right things it's possible that they have access to this technology.  My rational agent could probably tell the operator that I took negative stories about Trump as a positive thing since I would take it as an indication that he 'was not with them.'  I knew that it was possible that the game was this deep but there were so many amateurish mishaps and close calls that i hoped it were not.

The thing about a rational agent is that while time goes by and features are developed, older data can be re-run.  The data probably goes back to the tests one took in kindergarden and it will be around forever.  I suspect that someone running a typical individual's rational agent will be able to better predict a person's behavior than the person themselves could.

Snowden and/or Greenwald commented once that they were surprised that the nobody took much interest in the news that raw intelligence data was being sent straight to Israel.  (And it surprised me that nobody put that together with the info that Obama/Clinton achieved on Trump and his folks)  The MOU kindly requested that the Israelis delete data on our politicians if it were found but showed no concern for average citizens.  (I'm sure they got right on that request.)  I expected that the data was going into making lists and that we would see it again in this reduced form.

In the later parts of Obama's last term Lynch told us about the game.  The U.N.'s 'Strong Cities Network' would work with info provided through the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center) to hunt down 'domestic extremists'.  This is what I was expecting to see and suspect it is a reduction of the same raw data the U.S. govt 'outsourced'.  Basically the lists would be those who needed 're-education'...and eventually possibly worse...

One of the reasons I worked so hard against Clinton is that several decades of observing her tells me that she is a true psychopath who would not only be willing but would be delighted to move into fully operational mode.  I think it only prudent to consider Trump to be capable of selling us out in more or less exactly the same way.  For-warned is for-armed.  You will not be able to cheat the machine (e.g., 'clean up your act') because you cannot edit the older data.

It's also worth note that lists like this are common through history.  More common then not in fact, and there are mass graves left as artifacts.  Also, normal intuition will not produce a good sense of who might be considered a threat or an enemy.  Yuri Bezmenov gave an outstanding example of this phenomenon when describing the lists the Soviets had drawn up for India.  In fact it was these lists and the people who's names surprisingly appeared for termination which finally caused him to defect.


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April 10, 2017, 02:40:53 PM
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Trump is having his weakness exploited ...He did not know US backed or did the bombing in Russia nor the chem attacks.  Syria did not have chems the rebels did...  Then he was shown pictures of children suffering and was presented with options...He acted


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Trump is having his weakness exploited ...He did not know US backed or did the bombing in Russia nor the chem attacks.  Syria did not have chems the rebels did...  Then he was shown pictures of children suffering and was presented with options...He acted


No presidents personally are convinced of these or other issues. Always trusted or competent people do it. Therefore, if the intelligence reported and checked this information, then he had to react. But how else would it have happened otherwise?
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Oh man did we get chumped by the Trump!  The decent first two months was a nice little touch.

I don't want to hear from the scads of people saying 'told you so' based on their 'feelings.'  People should have produced a plausible description of the mechanics backed up by some observations.  Ironically, from day one I warned of a particular theoretical possibility and continued to try (unsuccessfully) to sus out observations which could lend strength or weakness to the idea of this danger.

TruthStreamMedia just did an outstanding piece on the very mechanism I theorized about.  It also relates to my last post where I made some predictions and warnings.  They uncovered the Mercer connection which, in other recent news, is important to consider with respect to Bannon's future undertakings.

I highly recommend that politically sophisticated and computer literate viewers to pay attention to what they are saying here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQmIPK7DQh8


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Oh man did we get chumped by the Trump!  The decent first two months was a nice little touch.

I don't want to hear from the scads of people saying 'told you so' based on their 'feelings.'  People should have produced a plausible description of the mechanics backed up by some observations.  Ironically, from day one I warned of a particular theoretical possibility and continued to try (unsuccessfully) to sus out observations which could lend strength or weakness to the idea of this danger.

TruthStreamMedia just did an outstanding piece on the very mechanism I theorized about.  It also relates to my last post where I made some predictions and warnings.  They uncovered the Mercer connection which, in other recent news, is important to consider with respect to Bannon's future undertakings.

I highly recommend that politically sophisticated and computer literate viewers to pay attention to what they are saying here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQmIPK7DQh8


Great stuff, thanks @tvbcof
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which is important not to disturb my profession.

what about trump 'how all of you comment?
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Wow.  Trump has done such a 'shock and awe' 180 degree turn-around from the platform he ran on that even CiaNN's jaws are on the floor.

If I were Trump believed an ounce of what I claimed to have when campaigning, I would think about just going all the way.  I would go through the Obama or 'progressive' agenda and release one element of 'my new plan' every day.

 - Cashless society, and if any technology for embedded microchips has been developed, mandate it's use.

 - Public/private health 'insurance' funded by coercing property owners to sell their property and confiscating profits from fanny/freddy.

 - Eco-friendly human habitats consisting of 240 square feet apartments near mass transportation systems.  Places of work in the same complex as housing when possible.

 - 180 new vaccinations under development and many on the current schedule.  Children AND adults need to be 'caught up'.  At gunpoint if necessary.

 - Free education for as long as anyone wants and guaranteed wages.

 - At least one free gender reversal surgery for everyone.

 - Driverless cars which can not be privately owned.  Only used as taxi.

 - Common Core education with biometric feedback from students sent to central computers in real time.

 - All land upon which rain falls at least once every two years under management of the EPA in order for the people to have 'clean water'.

 - Drills-gone-live to demonstrate the folly of citizens with weapons.  

 - U.N. run 'Strong Cities Network' using input from SPLC and ADL and internationally staffed swat equipped police forces to round up 'domestic extremists' and re-educate them.

 - Massive geo-engineering to save the world from global warming and manipulate weather for a variety of citizen friendly

 - Carbon taxes on everything with proceeds funding the United Nations.

 - Many many more such ideas.  Flip through the Atlantic or National Geographic or the Economist for leads.


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Reading is not Trump's forte.   Wink
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