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January 03, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
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It has enough whales and corporate interest in it to stay the course.
The hard forks, the DOA have all happened quite early on so ETH may end up being tried and tested and still standing.


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January 04, 2017, 09:09:02 AM
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It has enough whales and corporate interest in it to stay the course.
The hard forks, the DOA have all happened quite early on so ETH may end up being tried and tested and still standing.


That is right. the Etheruem will move on.
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January 04, 2017, 09:12:27 AM
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It has enough whales and corporate interest in it to stay the course.
The hard forks, the DOA have all happened quite early on so ETH may end up being tried and tested and still standing.


That is right. the Etheruem will move on.
Currently onwards and upwards.

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January 04, 2017, 01:24:00 PM
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It has enough whales and corporate interest in it to stay the course.
The hard forks, the DOA have all happened quite early on so ETH may end up being tried and tested and still standing.


That is right. the Etheruem will move on.
Currently onwards and upwards.

I hope the rise can continue.

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January 04, 2017, 01:48:43 PM
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If everything is smooth as it should be, it should hit 15$ near metropolis release. It was between 11.5-12.5 before the btc pump and speculators went FOMO into it. Now, the more BTC is increasing in price, the more people will take profits and go back from where they left in the first place ( mostly ethereum ) , especially now that metropolis is close and ethereum will soon exit beta stage. In my own opinion, i expect 1-2 more unplanned hardforks after metropolis before we see serenity, since ethereum developers will walk into uncharted territory, since ethereum is quite unique in it's own way, something that wasn't done or even thought about, even more ambitious than what bitcoin was at it's release.
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January 04, 2017, 02:01:12 PM
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If everything is smooth as it should be, it should hit 15$ near metropolis release. It was between 11.5-12.5 before the btc pump and speculators went FOMO into it. Now, the more BTC is increasing in price, the more people will take profits and go back from where they left in the first place ( mostly ethereum ) , especially now that metropolis is close and ethereum will soon exit beta stage. In my own opinion, i expect 1-2 more unplanned hardforks after metropolis before we see serenity, since ethereum developers will walk into uncharted territory, since ethereum is quite unique in it's own way, something that wasn't done or even thought about, even more ambitious than what bitcoin was at it's release.
That's also my reading of the situation although I believe metropolise we will be nearer $20. I hope you took advantage of the low prices to bag some more ETH. Did you cash out of the ETC Criminal Coin in time?

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January 04, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
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If everything is smooth as it should be, it should hit 15$ near metropolis release. It was between 11.5-12.5 before the btc pump and speculators went FOMO into it. Now, the more BTC is increasing in price, the more people will take profits and go back from where they left in the first place ( mostly ethereum ) , especially now that metropolis is close and ethereum will soon exit beta stage. In my own opinion, i expect 1-2 more unplanned hardforks after metropolis before we see serenity, since ethereum developers will walk into uncharted territory, since ethereum is quite unique in it's own way, something that wasn't done or even thought about, even more ambitious than what bitcoin was at it's release.
That's also my reading of the situation although I believe metropolise we will be nearer $20. I hope you took advantage of the low prices to bag some more ETH. Did you cash out of the ETC Criminal Coin in time?

i have still some ETC which are already considered lost waiting for the first real attempt at pumping this idiot coin
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January 04, 2017, 02:35:32 PM
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If everything is smooth as it should be, it should hit 15$ near metropolis release. It was between 11.5-12.5 before the btc pump and speculators went FOMO into it. Now, the more BTC is increasing in price, the more people will take profits and go back from where they left in the first place ( mostly ethereum ) , especially now that metropolis is close and ethereum will soon exit beta stage. In my own opinion, i expect 1-2 more unplanned hardforks after metropolis before we see serenity, since ethereum developers will walk into uncharted territory, since ethereum is quite unique in it's own way, something that wasn't done or even thought about, even more ambitious than what bitcoin was at it's release.
That's also my reading of the situation although I believe metropolise we will be nearer $20. I hope you took advantage of the low prices to bag some more ETH. Did you cash out of the ETC Criminal Coin in time?

i have still some ETC which are already considered lost waiting for the first real attempt at pumping this idiot coin

Do you mean ETC is idiot coin?
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January 04, 2017, 02:36:46 PM
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ETC will most likely reach 2$ at some point thanks to pumping, but it's risky, it can aswell go back to 0.5$. I've sold it all around 1.5$ and bought more ETH. Soon metropolis, and the price will easily go to around 15$, if everything goes smoothly. If there'll be more positive news, we might even witness another ATH. I also own different coins from several projects, but neither comes even close to ETH project potential and development resource.
Keep in mind that most FUDers here may also own ETH, or not. You can't possibly know, but what's certain is that bitcoin maximalists are scared of it, LOL at this https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/5kyja1/bitcoiners_crying_because_institutions_prefer/
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January 04, 2017, 03:35:50 PM
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It has enough whales and corporate interest in it to stay the course.
The hard forks, the DOA have all happened quite early on so ETH may end up being tried and tested and still standing.


That is right. the Etheruem will move on.
Currently onwards and upwards.

I hope the rise can continue.

i don't think it is a rise, etheruem was overdumped and now the price is pumped again to remain around 0.01 bitcoin, i think with the enw miners policy etheruem might see another increase in the future, but if will shift to pos completely it is bound to die, pos coin are not good i don't understand while vitalik is so stabborn to continue with this route

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January 04, 2017, 03:45:18 PM
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Because he is smarter than you ? POS, if well done, is much better than POW. No pos projects have been attacked so far, and they were first gen. Look, i am a small miner and for me ofcourse POW would be better, but not for the project. To attack pow all you have to do is rent hashing power, to attack POS you need to buy alot of coins and that alone would drive the price through the roof. And, as i've read, they will make it so that the incentive will be to play fair, otherwise stakers will lose money.
Bitcoin will never move away from POW because the whales that bought equipment for milions and that OWN most bitcoins and all the hashing power want it that way, to milk it for years to come. After the milking is done, when the halvings will make it unprofitable to mine since there gonna be very few idiots that'll buy bitcoin for 3-10k $ just to make it profitable for the whales, they'll just move on. Won't matter, their bitcoin will be long dumped by then.
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January 04, 2017, 04:03:43 PM
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Because he is smarter than you ? POS, if well done, is much better than POW. No pos projects have been attacked so far, and they were first gen. Look, i am a small miner and for me ofcourse POW would be better, but not for the project. To attack pow all you have to do is rent hashing power, to attack POS you need to buy alot of coins and that alone would drive the price through the roof. And, as i've read, they will make it so that the incentive will be to play fair, otherwise stakers will lose money.
Bitcoin will never move away from POW because the whales that bought equipment for milions and that OWN most bitcoins and all the hashing power want it that way, to milk it for years to come. After the milking is done, when the halvings will make it unprofitable to mine since there gonna be very few idiots that'll buy bitcoin for 3-10k $ just to make it profitable for the whales, they'll just move on. Won't matter, their bitcoin will be long dumped by then.

That's the key.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4a46ai/how_is_pos_better_than_pow/
https://www.ethnews.com/proof-of-work-vs-proof-of-stake-explained

It has enough whales and corporate interest in it to stay the course.
The hard forks, the DOA have all happened quite early on so ETH may end up being tried and tested and still standing.


That is right. the Etheruem will move on.
Currently onwards and upwards.

I hope the rise can continue.

i don't think it is a rise, etheruem was overdumped and now the price is pumped again to remain around 0.01 bitcoin, i think with the enw miners policy etheruem might see another increase in the future, but if will shift to pos completely it is bound to die, pos coin are not good i don't understand while vitalik is so stabborn to continue with this route

LOL, the hater of ethereum.


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January 04, 2017, 08:38:12 PM
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Because he is smarter than you ? POS, if well done, is much better than POW. No pos projects have been attacked so far, and they were first gen. Look, i am a small miner and for me ofcourse POW would be better, but not for the project. To attack pow all you have to do is rent hashing power, to attack POS you need to buy alot of coins and that alone would drive the price through the roof. And, as i've read, they will make it so that the incentive will be to play fair, otherwise stakers will lose money.
Bitcoin will never move away from POW because the whales that bought equipment for milions and that OWN most bitcoins and all the hashing power want it that way, to milk it for years to come. After the milking is done, when the halvings will make it unprofitable to mine since there gonna be very few idiots that'll buy bitcoin for 3-10k $ just to make it profitable for the whales, they'll just move on. Won't matter, their bitcoin will be long dumped by then.

PoS can be done only after it has a big community and usage, otherwise the price will go lower and lower.

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January 04, 2017, 09:42:56 PM
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Lol, stupid argument. Why would the price go lower, just because ? The inflation would be much lower, therefore the supply would be lower which would translate in higher price. It would go up, not lower, jesus. It would have an effect similar to bitcoin halving, but not as drastic.
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January 05, 2017, 08:22:16 AM
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Lol, stupid argument. Why would the price go lower, just because ? The inflation would be much lower, therefore the supply would be lower which would translate in higher price. It would go up, not lower, jesus. It would have an effect similar to bitcoin halving, but not as drastic.

There is a discussion about reducing the block reward to 2.
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January 09, 2017, 09:14:21 PM
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It has enough whales and corporate interest in it to stay the course.
The hard forks, the DOA have all happened quite early on so ETH may end up being tried and tested and still standing.


That is right. the Etheruem will move on.
Currently onwards and upwards.

Exactly. Everyone who followed the story of bitcoin knows that it sometimes just takes a little patience until you get rewarded... ETH still has a huge potential to rise, I'm sure of that.
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January 10, 2017, 12:23:28 AM
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It has enough whales and corporate interest in it to stay the course.
The hard forks, the DOA have all happened quite early on so ETH may end up being tried and tested and still standing.


That is right. the Etheruem will move on.
Currently onwards and upwards.

Exactly. Everyone who followed the story of bitcoin knows that it sometimes just takes a little patience until you get rewarded... ETH still has a huge potential to rise, I'm sure of that.


i'm cautiously optimistic on Ethereum.

However, this "I'm sure of that" talk is baloney.

Ethereum has a LOT of work to do yet.

Meeting and exceeding Bitcoin's market cap is just the first milestone. Long way to go yet.
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January 10, 2017, 10:44:59 AM
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Ethereum needs to resolve its development problems. Let's wait and see how the team will address them.
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January 13, 2017, 07:40:45 AM
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Its been a miles away before Ethereum can surpass for what the bitcoin price have now. Though I believe ethereum has a good future of crypto, but not  to overcome the Bitcoin. Maybe in some other ways, and bitcoin is the no.1 digital currency and Eth is not, and which of these two are strong enough and getting more stronger in reality happen now..I guess everybody here know the answer.
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January 13, 2017, 01:25:53 PM
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I can't go along with that. These two cryptos in general has different purposes and applications. Bitcoin is a peer to peer payment system but ethereum is not. Ethereum sometimes called a world computer that is a decentralized software platform in order to facilite smart contracts and distributed applications using its own currency as vehicle. Besides that, looking strictly the future of these two coins according to network effect where the network’s value is dependent on the number of others using it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect the bitcoin has an extensive user base compared with the corresponding of ethereum.
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