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August 24, 2015, 12:22:48 PM
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what i think an antminer s7 would be:
5.58THs to 4.68THs
power under 1500watts
price 825 to 975
just my two cents

nah, what you described is more like S8 or S7+

S7: 2300-2700 TH, 505-595W in a small form factor. It is much easier to dissipate that much heat vs 1500W

however, it would throw a wrench into plans of many if it would require three separate PCIe connectors with each more than 200W as per S5+ design.
It would mean that Corsair 750 workhorse is a no go.



I would agree more if the S5+ is or was the S6 makes sense that the S7 is for everyone would be more in line around 2.2 th or a tad higher  if it is 230 watts per TH  that's what maybe  500 watts tops or a tad hgiher as you said , at defaults then goes from there . it would make better sense to have it run on a 110 to 220 line depending on the PSU .


Price it at or like the S3 S5 etc ...that way every one stays happy including them .why would it be priced any higher just because of what that they do, i understand why S5 + is etc, unless they want to shut out the home miner which i kind of don't think they want to do after all were the ones that got them were they are now .

if it goes this way i some how see the S8 using less power and more speed if it is a  new chip by then .


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August 24, 2015, 12:41:59 PM
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what i think an antminer s7 would be:
5.58THs to 4.68THs
power under 1500watts
price 825 to 975
just my two cents

nah, what you described is more like S8 or S7+

S7: 2300-2700 TH, 505-595W in a small form factor. It is much easier to dissipate that much heat vs 1500W

however, it would throw a wrench into plans of many if it would require three separate PCIe connectors with each more than 200W as per S5+ design.
It would mean that Corsair 750 workhorse is a no go.



I would agree more if the S5+ is or was the S6 makes sense that the S7 is for everyone would be more in line around 2.2 th or a tad higher  if it is 230 watts per TH  that's what maybe  500 watts tops or a tad hgiher as you said , at defaults then goes from there . it would make better sense to have it run on a 110 to 220 line depending on the PSU .


Price it at or like the S3 S5 etc ...that way every one stays happy including them .

if it goes this way i some how see the S8 using less power and more speed if it's a  new chip by then .



this is what i hope, they would be unwise to make something that cant run off one psu and is fairly quiet..

not everyone wants to buy something that needs 4 or 5 large psus, and has 8 fans running 5000 rpms.
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August 24, 2015, 03:07:55 PM
Last edit: August 24, 2015, 03:48:36 PM by edonkey
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Last batch of s5+: SCAM LINK REMOVED

This is probably a scam!

Note that the text of the link above says "bitmaintech.com", but the actual domain is "bitmaintech.co". Looks like "bitmaintech.co" was registered on Friday August 21st, 2015.

The main bitmaintech.com site says nothing about batch 2.

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August 24, 2015, 03:17:14 PM
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S8 would be the BM1385 chip, if they get around to building one. If they had a "new chip by then" it would go into a S9 and S10, per their normal numbering scheme.

I suspect there are a LOT more S5 units running as pairs from the EVGA 1300G2 than there are running as singles from 750W power supplies, though the 750s offer more flexability they also eat more space.

 I suspect I'm a bit uncommon in running 3 S5s from a pair of Seasonic X1250s (I trust the longevity of most Seasonic units over anything EVGA, though the EVGA aren't BAD by any means), but that particular setup fits wonderfully well in my old 30"x12" metal storage racks (PS/S5/S5/S5/PS), there's an inch or so where the rack legs would get in the way but the PS are short enough I can work around that easily even laying them flat - just leave the exaust side pushed as far away from the "back legs" as possible.
 I'm also a firm believer in NOT pushing power supplies to their limits, both for better efficiency and better longevity (heat is THE ENEMY of anything electronic, the cooler it runs the longer it lasts on average).

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August 24, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
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Last batch of s5+: link removed

This is probably a scam!

Note that the text of the link above says "bitmaintech.com", but the actual domain is "bitmaintech.co". Looks like "bitmaintech.co" was registered on Friday August 21st, 2015.

The main bitmaintech.com site says nothing about batch 2.


Good catch. This is nasty.
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August 24, 2015, 03:23:20 PM
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Last batch of s5+:

This is probably a scam!

Note that the text of the link above says "bitmaintech.com", but the actual domain is "bitmaintech.co". Looks like "bitmaintech.co" was registered on Friday August 21st, 2015.

The main bitmaintech.com site says nothing about batch 2.

Nice catch, I didn't see that there, hopefully nobody gets duped by this I will go ahead and snip it out of my previous quote.

Definitely a scam, I tried putting a totally made up user and pass on the sign in page after it takes you to and it lets you right through to pay for your order. Probably catching your Bitmain user and pass info also. If anybody clicked through I would definitely change your logon info.

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August 24, 2015, 03:24:21 PM
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fishing link for sure

I reported to the mods and marked the guy as a scammer.


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August 24, 2015, 03:29:25 PM
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going from here
https://bitmaintech.co/user/orderConfirm.php
to here
https://bitmaintech.co/user/orderDelivery.php

we can see the wallet changing! nice shit Grin or just hit refresh on the delivery page Cheesy
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August 24, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
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Last batch of s5+: <snip link>

This is probably a scam!

Note that the text of the link above says "bitmaintech.com", but the actual domain is "bitmaintech.co". Looks like "bitmaintech.co" was registered on Friday August 21st, 2015.

The main bitmaintech.com site says nothing about batch 2.


Very well spotted, I had no intention of buying one but did click for a look and never noticed.

Entered all fake info and the payment address was
15fzSz7bErfNd9j8pvv9iqdJcnaXbUpcx1

Probably the same for all orders, maybe someone else can check. strike that mavericklm beat me to it Smiley

PS. Always wise to delete these links when quoting, saves the mods having to delete multiple posts.

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This is probably a scam!

Note that the text of the link above says "bitmaintech.com", but the actual domain is "bitmaintech.co". Looks like "bitmaintech.co" was registered on Friday August 21st, 2015.

The main bitmaintech.com site says nothing about batch 2.

Nice catch, I didn't see that there, hopefully nobody gets duped by this I will go ahead and snip it out of my previous quote.

Well, at first there were 27 available and now its 21. I suspect someone might have sent coins. :/ Leaving - trust too.

The wallet address I see is completely different: 12ipiQ56RfzAtWxvyCu3zMa2qdudVqR6D3

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Well, at first there were 27 available and now its 21. I suspect someone might have sent coins. :/ Leaving - trust too.

Hopefully it's just us sticking them in the basket, and not unfortunate people getting scammed.

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August 24, 2015, 04:38:06 PM
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We should make a bot to request paying address repeatedly to CPU-abuse their VPS... shouldn't be that hard, and that would cost'em money or banning

EDIT: Already tried, it is a fixed set of addresses, shouldn't be hard to track.

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August 24, 2015, 06:12:18 PM
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We should make a bot to request paying address repeatedly to CPU-abuse their VPS... shouldn't be that hard, and that would cost'em money or banning

EDIT: Already tried, it is a fixed set of addresses, shouldn't be hard to track.
Good on you, we definitely need to report the website to the host as they will likely take it down and that will be the end of that.

Now back on subject, does anyone know if the antistatic fans by corsair that a lot use for the S5 with a push and pull method would work if the dimensions were shifted a bit more one way? (A height increase or depth increase) I ask as the only think I could see changing on the design is a bit added in a direction.

I still wonder what the actual dB is from a meter. Looking at the stats, 6 fans running over 4500 rpm should sound like a Ferrari. What corsair fans are you referring to? As my experience with them are not that bright in s5, I simply couldn't use any other fan without underclocking. What I came up with the latest update was to set the stock fan to the lowest rate and put a corsair fan (or whatever with over 2000 rpm, 90 cmf and silent) as pull.

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We should make a bot to request paying address repeatedly to CPU-abuse their VPS... shouldn't be that hard, and that would cost'em money or banning

EDIT: Already tried, it is a fixed set of addresses, shouldn't be hard to track.
Good on you, we definitely need to report the website to the host as they will likely take it down and that will be the end of that.

Now back on subject, does anyone know if the antistatic fans by corsair that a lot use for the S5 with a push and pull method would work if the dimensions were shifted a bit more one way? (A height increase or depth increase) I ask as the only think I could see changing on the design is a bit added in a direction.

I still wonder what the actual dB is from a meter. Looking at the stats, 6 fans running over 4500 rpm should sound like a Ferrari. What corsair fans are you referring to? As my experience with them are not that bright in s5, I simply couldn't use any other fan without underclocking. What I came up with the latest update was to set the stock fan to the lowest rate and put a corsair fan (or whatever with over 2000 rpm, 90 cmf and silent) as pull.

I think i remember seeing they were 70dB fans. So with the added noise of air turbulence and 6 of them, it would not be surprised for 80dB.

I don't think you should use a sp120 here, i don't think it can pull enough Static pressure to make a difference vs the huge pressure from the stock push. However it could add a bit of airflow to the external end chips.
Personally the best way i did this was just the stock fan at lower% with a box fan blowing air on it. Temps are tight together, 57/58 for example. And its much cheaper, support multiple S5 and is quiet.


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We should make a bot to request paying address repeatedly to CPU-abuse their VPS... shouldn't be that hard, and that would cost'em money or banning

EDIT: Already tried, it is a fixed set of addresses, shouldn't be hard to track.
Good on you, we definitely need to report the website to the host as they will likely take it down and that will be the end of that.

Now back on subject, does anyone know if the antistatic fans by corsair that a lot use for the S5 with a push and pull method would work if the dimensions were shifted a bit more one way? (A height increase or depth increase) I ask as the only think I could see changing on the design is a bit added in a direction.

I still wonder what the actual dB is from a meter. Looking at the stats, 6 fans running over 4500 rpm should sound like a Ferrari. What corsair fans are you referring to? As my experience with them are not that bright in s5, I simply couldn't use any other fan without underclocking. What I came up with the latest update was to set the stock fan to the lowest rate and put a corsair fan (or whatever with over 2000 rpm, 90 cmf and silent) as pull.

I think i remember seeing they were 70dB fans. So with the added noise of air turbulence and 6 of them, it would not be surprised for 80dB.

I don't think you should use a sp120 here, i don't think it can pull enough Static pressure to make a difference vs the huge pressure from the stock push. However it could add a bit of airflow to the external end chips.
Personally the best way i did this was just the stock fan at lower% with a box fan blowing air on it. Temps are tight together, 57/58 for example. And its much cheaper, support multiple S5 and is quiet.

Hmm, thats another idea I am willing to try. What you mean by box fan is something like this, right?

http://www.rowell.com.tr/dosyalar/rowell-ayakli-vantilator-metal04-202.png

At what % you run the stock fan and at what mhz? (with getting those temps)

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We should make a bot to request paying address repeatedly to CPU-abuse their VPS... shouldn't be that hard, and that would cost'em money or banning

EDIT: Already tried, it is a fixed set of addresses, shouldn't be hard to track.
Good on you, we definitely need to report the website to the host as they will likely take it down and that will be the end of that.

Now back on subject, does anyone know if the antistatic fans by corsair that a lot use for the S5 with a push and pull method would work if the dimensions were shifted a bit more one way? (A height increase or depth increase) I ask as the only think I could see changing on the design is a bit added in a direction.

I still wonder what the actual dB is from a meter. Looking at the stats, 6 fans running over 4500 rpm should sound like a Ferrari. What corsair fans are you referring to? As my experience with them are not that bright in s5, I simply couldn't use any other fan without underclocking. What I came up with the latest update was to set the stock fan to the lowest rate and put a corsair fan (or whatever with over 2000 rpm, 90 cmf and silent) as pull.

I think i remember seeing they were 70dB fans. So with the added noise of air turbulence and 6 of them, it would not be surprised for 80dB.

I don't think you should use a sp120 here, i don't think it can pull enough Static pressure to make a difference vs the huge pressure from the stock push. However it could add a bit of airflow to the external end chips.
Personally the best way i did this was just the stock fan at lower% with a box fan blowing air on it. Temps are tight together, 57/58 for example. And its much cheaper, support multiple S5 and is quiet.

Hmm, thats another idea I am willing to try. What you mean by box fan is something like this, right?

http://www.rowell.com.tr/dosyalar/rowell-ayakli-vantilator-metal04-202.png

At what % you run the stock fan and at what mhz? (with getting those temps)

this is a box fan



http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lasko-20-in-3-Speed-Box-Fan-3733/100405665?cm_mmc=shopping-_-bingpa-_-29-_-100405665&ci_src=328768002&ci_sku=100405665

your link is a tower fan

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We should make a bot to request paying address repeatedly to CPU-abuse their VPS... shouldn't be that hard, and that would cost'em money or banning

EDIT: Already tried, it is a fixed set of addresses, shouldn't be hard to track.
Good on you, we definitely need to report the website to the host as they will likely take it down and that will be the end of that.

Now back on subject, does anyone know if the antistatic fans by corsair that a lot use for the S5 with a push and pull method would work if the dimensions were shifted a bit more one way? (A height increase or depth increase) I ask as the only think I could see changing on the design is a bit added in a direction.

I still wonder what the actual dB is from a meter. Looking at the stats, 6 fans running over 4500 rpm should sound like a Ferrari. What corsair fans are you referring to? As my experience with them are not that bright in s5, I simply couldn't use any other fan without underclocking. What I came up with the latest update was to set the stock fan to the lowest rate and put a corsair fan (or whatever with over 2000 rpm, 90 cmf and silent) as pull.

I think i remember seeing they were 70dB fans. So with the added noise of air turbulence and 6 of them, it would not be surprised for 80dB.

I don't think you should use a sp120 here, i don't think it can pull enough Static pressure to make a difference vs the huge pressure from the stock push. However it could add a bit of airflow to the external end chips.
Personally the best way i did this was just the stock fan at lower% with a box fan blowing air on it. Temps are tight together, 57/58 for example. And its much cheaper, support multiple S5 and is quiet.

Hmm, thats another idea I am willing to try. What you mean by box fan is something like this, right?

http://www.rowell.com.tr/dosyalar/rowell-ayakli-vantilator-metal04-202.png

At what % you run the stock fan and at what mhz? (with getting those temps)

Naw not a fan on a stand, a box fan.

Personally my box fans are in the window and push in fresh air and i use plastic to direct air directly to the sides of the S5 toward the exhaust, but some users just put the S5 on the box fan. I'd probably do that if i wasnt dumping air strait outside with ducts. That plan would probably work if generating heat inside the room was not a problem.

My fan still run at 50% its still summer here, temp does from 55 to 63 when its 28C outside. I think i'll be able to drop them very low during winter.


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August 24, 2015, 07:48:52 PM
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Thank you for your replies, I have them both in my house, ready to use. Im living on a crowded street and I fear the fan infront of the window might push a lot of dust.

@VirosaGITS at what clock you are running your miner(s)?

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August 24, 2015, 08:12:41 PM
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Thank you for your replies, I have them both in my house, ready to use. Im living on a crowded street and I fear the fan infront of the window might push a lot of dust.

@VirosaGITS at what clock you are running your miner(s)?

Right i forgot. Freq = 387.5.

Its the second best hashrate for W freq for me but virtually 0 HW, seem a good compromise until winter where i may use the optimal setting which is 393.75. Maybe even try 400 when its winter cooled.

For the dust i recommend getting a box fan filter pack. Its just some kind of net you put over the fan. There's the cheap throw away one or there's high quality cleanable pad that are more expensive.


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August 25, 2015, 02:02:48 AM
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Thanks Bitmain for creating a next-gen product for home miners!

Sorry, I haven't read this whole thread, but is there an ETA yet for when the S7 will be available?

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