Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[coinlocket$]

They have the ok from the politics.

Serie A will continue with closed stadium, the show must go on.

[Chikito]

Serie A will continue with closed stadium, the show must go on.

Yes, I see on Internazionale official statement
https://www.inter.it/en/news/2020/02/24/official-statement-inter-ludogorets-inter-behind-closed-doors.html

The Europa League match on Thursday 27 February will be played behind closed doors at the Meazza
24/02/2020

Inter loss money from ticket home.

[tranthidung]

On a Milan fan's standpoint (my standpoint) I don't think we need to rush things just by qualifying into the Champions League next season. Because to be honest being a fourth, thirds, or even in the second spot of the Serie A table right now doesn't show any good competitive advantage when it comes to the Champions League. If Milan rush things just to be qualified their next transfer window would be a mess for them trying to overspend on everything just to somehow "improve" their chances of winning some games in the CL.

Overspend is an unavoidable and terrible issue for giant clubs when they try to come back as fast as possible, in rush things like you discussed. Look beyond the Italy, in Europe, recent seasons, we have Manchester United. They bought superstar (Pogba), youth talents (Bissaka, Daniel James, etc.), very normal, average defender (Harry Maguire) at very expensive transfer costs. It's unbelievable to see they bought those players at such overvalued prices. Milan should avoid this approach, I agree with you.

Aside from that there is still an issue about the future of their manager, Stefano Pioli, with both Ragnick and Allegri being suggested to be the next manager next season their will be a new system in place that majority of the players aren't aware of. In my opinion as a Milan fan I'll be more than happy to see them qualify in the Europa League and see if they are worthy enough to be in the Champions League.

Rather than focussing on stars, superstars, they would focus on finding a good manager. I don't know who is Ragnick but Allegri is a good manager. He had some good seasons in Milan before transfered to Juventus. He understood core values of Milan. It will be good for Milan if he accepts the Milan's coach position.

Serie A will continue with closed stadium, the show must go on.

Playing matches in closed stadiums don't protect players and clubs' staffs. If one of them infected with the virus, it will be spred out very fast over clubs, and over nations.

[coinlocket$]

Playing matches in closed stadiums don't protect players and clubs' staffs. If one of them infected with the virus, it will be spred out very fast over clubs, and over nations.

The virus is already all over the world, they are finding a lot here in Italy cause they are doing tests to everyone near the "patient 0-1".

80% or more of the cases are positive with no symptoms for now.

I bet it will be the same already in other countries or it will be soon when they will start with tests.

[Theb]

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Overspend is an unavoidable and terrible issue for giant clubs when they try to come back as fast as possible, in rush things like you discussed. Look beyond the Italy, in Europe, recent seasons, we have Manchester United. They bought superstar (Pogba), youth talents (Bissaka, Daniel James, etc.), very normal, average defender (Harry Maguire) at very expensive transfer costs. It's unbelievable to see they bought those players at such overvalued prices. Milan should avoid this approach, I agree with you.

Not all clubs especially outside from the EPL needs to spend money in order to be competitive next season. Look at clubs like RB Leipzig and Ajax they don't spend that much money in order to stay and remain competitive in the league or in European leagues. However what AC Milan is trying to achieve in chasing a UCL spot in the table is something they'll be overspending at since to be frank their players are not all Champions League quality and they might not even make it pass the group stages if they continue with what they have even if they replaced Pioli for another manager.

Rather than focussing on stars, superstars, they would focus on finding a good manager. I don't know who is Ragnick but Allegri is a good manager. He had some good seasons in Milan before transfered to Juventus. He understood core values of Milan. It will be good for Milan if he accepts the Milan's coach position.

Rangnick is currently the head of sport and development for Red Bull but he previously have managed several german teams including Schalke 04, 1899 Hoffenheim, and the most recent one which is RB Leipzig. Milan did hire a quality manager under Vicenzo Montella and to tell you the truth he didn't made that much difference for the team to move forward. Having the right manager is not the only key here for Milan to be relevant in European football again. They also need to overhaul their team next season if they want to do so.

[tokeweed]

Playing matches in closed stadiums don't protect players and clubs' staffs. If one of them infected with the virus, it will be spred out very fast over clubs, and over nations.

The virus is already all over the world, they are finding a lot here in Italy cause they are doing tests to everyone near the "patient 0-1".

80% or more of the cases are positive with no symptoms for now.

I bet it will be the same already in other countries or it will be soon when they will start with tests.

Wait wait...  So somebody could be positive without knowing they're positive?  How long til the symptoms start showing?  Pretty sure it should appear within two weeks of catching the virus.

And how did Italians get some many infections?  I'm hearing Spain is too.

[OcTradism]

IF they will play, for now the most probable situation is to play the game without people at the stadium.

Exactly. According to Italian SKY, the Serie A President has sent a letter to the Italian government asking that matches shouldn't be postponed because of the tight schedule. Instead he suggests that they should be played with empty stands.

https://www.facebook.com/AroundTurin/posts/2869337359820847 

And this will be applied to all matches in Champions League and Europa League for Italian clubs, for next days?

If the Covid-19 pandemic won't be controlled next weeks and keep spreading in Europe, soon we will see all matches in Europe through our televisions or smartphones. All of matches from now on have been under high risks of will be played in closed stadiums.

[Naida_BR]

Playing matches in closed stadiums don't protect players and clubs' staffs. If one of them infected with the virus, it will be spred out very fast over clubs, and over nations.

The virus is already all over the world, they are finding a lot here in Italy cause they are doing tests to everyone near the "patient 0-1".

80% or more of the cases are positive with no symptoms for now.

I bet it will be the same already in other countries or it will be soon when they will start with tests.

I hope that Corona virus is not going to destroy this amazing Serie A league that we are experiencing this year.
We had a lot of seasons to watch such a competitive championship and it will be so sad to see the top 3 teams being affected by the Corona virus epidemia

[BitSat19]

Playing matches in closed stadiums don't protect players and clubs' staffs. If one of them infected with the virus, it will be spred out very fast over clubs, and over nations.

The virus is already all over the world, they are finding a lot here in Italy cause they are doing tests to everyone near the "patient 0-1".

80% or more of the cases are positive with no symptoms for now.

I bet it will be the same already in other countries or it will be soon when they will start with tests.

I hope that Corona virus is not going to destroy this amazing Serie A league that we are experiencing this year.
We had a lot of seasons to watch such a competitive championship and it will be so sad to see the top 3 teams being affected by the Corona virus epidemia

Currently world is facing some very quick effects of this Coronavirus because today I read its already spreading very quickly in India, Iran, Afghanistan, Korea and Pakistan so authorities fail to control this look like we have to pay for this something big because too many peoples and deaths happening in very quick session.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Wait wait...  So somebody could be positive without knowing they're positive?  How long til the symptoms start showing?  Pretty sure it should appear within two weeks of catching the virus.

And how did Italians get some many infections?  I'm hearing Spain is too.

Yeah. It's airborne and it's earliest signs and symptoms are like for a common cold and could be ignored. Therefore, before the infected person realizes that the infection is serious, s/he will have spread it already to other people who will also be having no idea that they have already contracted it.

It's very hard to contain than the likes of Ebola

It's so sad that the Footballing world will feel the pinch very soon due to the masses that attend the matches

[Theb]

Wait wait...  So somebody could be positive without knowing they're positive?  How long til the symptoms start showing?  Pretty sure it should appear within two weeks of catching the virus.

And how did Italians get some many infections?  I'm hearing Spain is too.

Yeah they already confirmed this last two days ago. Due to it's complexity even if there are no symptoms showing the person can already start infecting other people even if they look healthy. What the Serie A president suggested is already the best alternative we have aside from cancelling the games entirely, this is the only option we have for Italy not to spread the virus due to crowded matches. A lot of conferences and events worldwide are being cancelled already so it's really understandable for sporting events and leagues have these precautionary measures not to worsen the outbreak. At least if this proposal gets approve we could still watch the games online

[Bitcoin_Arena]

At least if this proposal gets approve we could still watch the games online

Which professional footballer will go out there to play knowing that the virus is on the loose 
I personally think everything may come to a standstill if there is a pandemic which will be quite sad

[hd49728]

The virus is already all over the world, they are finding a lot here in Italy cause they are doing tests to everyone near the "patient 0-1".

The term of patient 0-1 for outbreak and the identified of specific patient 0-1 for specific outbreak is only relatively. Identified patients 0-1 are not completely exact in some cases.

80% or more of the cases are positive with no symptoms for now.

Not correct. Around 81% ^[1] of confirmed cases through NAT (nucleid acid test) have mild symptoms but no one knows how many percent those confirmed cases account for in real total infected cases. There are so many infected cases (with or without symptoms in communities).

I bet it will be the same already in other countries or it will be soon when they will start with tests.

Sure. We have come closer to a pandemic. WHO only has tried to delay announce an official pandemic Covid-19 to avoid over-paranoid globally.

[1] Chinese CDC's report: https://github.com/cmrivers/ncov/blob/master/COVID-19.pdf
[2] https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468

[Naida_BR]

At least if this proposal gets approve we could still watch the games online

Which professional footballer will go out there to play knowing that the virus is on the loose 
I personally think everything may come to a standstill if there is a pandemic which will be quite sad

Every professional player who get paid is going to go out and play - otherwise, he should not be called professional.
If the game happens, measurements from the institutions are going to take place in order to secure that the players are going to leave healthy after the end of the game.

[Theb]

At least if this proposal gets approve we could still watch the games online

Which professional footballer will go out there to play knowing that the virus is on the loose 
I personally think everything may come to a standstill if there is a pandemic which will be quite sad

Oh they'll be playing trust me. I don't think they have that choice when things worsened aside from playing on an empty field there will be suspensions, penalties, and even bans when they refused to play even if the league will somehow adjust for their safety. Plus they'll be facing each other and these footballers gets medicals at least almost every week just to see their playing conditions so I know they'll be confident on having any kind of contact against each other. Yeah I do have to agree with you that once things will get worst a lot of postponements and cancellations of events will happen since this is the right thing to do, any unnecessary events on times like this could just help spread the virus.

[Coyster]

Which professional footballer will go out there to play knowing that the virus is on the loose 
I personally think everything may come to a standstill if there is a pandemic which will be quite sad

I think when the league and maybe also the government are certain that things are now fully out of control and they cannot guarantee the safety of the players, then games will be postponed till further notice. But as long as games are still ongoing,(though in an empty stadium)then it's is still very much safe for the players to go out there and do their job and no doubt they will.

This virus is taking out some of the fun this league has had since the beginning, it's sad that things have to get to this stage, but we can hope that very soon all this will end and the beautiful game continue without anything to worry about.

[Indymoney]

Which professional footballer will go out there to play knowing that the virus is on the loose 
I personally think everything may come to a standstill if there is a pandemic which will be quite sad

I think when the league and maybe also the government are certain that things are now fully out of control and they cannot guarantee the safety of the players, then games will be postponed till further notice. But as long as games are still ongoing,(though in an empty stadium)then it's is still very much safe for the players to go out there and do their job and no doubt they will.

This virus is taking out some of the fun this league has had since the beginning, it's sad that things have to get to this stage, but we can hope that very soon all this will end and the beautiful game continue without anything to worry about.

As this virus is spreading its really shocking because today I was reading Italy is now in top five countires those are infected with this Iran is also in some serious trouble as few high profile peoples also diagnost with this virus so if authorties sure then can handle things then surely they can allow teams to play if they feel its not good then there is no panic with suspend games.

[tranthidung]

I think when the league and maybe also the government are certain that things are now fully out of control and they cannot guarantee the safety of the players, then games will be postponed till further notice. But as long as games are still ongoing,(though in an empty stadium)then it's is still very much safe for the players to go out there and do their job and no doubt they will.

This virus is taking out some of the fun this league has had since the beginning, it's sad that things have to get to this stage, but we can hope that very soon all this will end and the beautiful game continue without anything to worry about.

With the open borders between Italy and other nations in Europe I believe sooner or later the virus will spread out over all European nations. The severity of outbreak locally will depend on government reactions (fast or slow, seriously or mildly) with outbreaks and how they trace suspected cases, people who have close contacts with confirmed cases and prevent massive spread in communities. The bad news is weather still cold in Europe, that is good condition for the survival of virus.

As this virus is spreading its really shocking because today I was reading Italy is now in top five countires those are infected with this Iran is also in some serious trouble as few high profile peoples also diagnost with this virus so if authorties sure then can handle things then surely they can allow teams to play if they feel its not good then there is no panic with suspend games.

If Italy can not control the outbreak at the north and let it spreads over the nation, Serie A will be postponed because there is no barriers and guarentee that players won't be infected by the virus. The worst scenario is when not only Serie A but also most or all soccer leagues in Europe will request all matches in closed stadiums or suspende all matches till the endemic (or pandemic) halts or reduces its severity.

[kolonel_x]

As this virus is spreading its really shocking because today I was reading Italy is now in top five countires those are infected with this Iran is also in some serious trouble as few high profile peoples also diagnost with this virus so if authorties sure then can handle things then surely they can allow teams to play if they feel its not good then there is no panic with suspend games.

If Italy can not control the outbreak at the north and let it spreads over the nation, Serie A will be postponed because there is no barriers and guarentee that players won't be infected by the virus. The worst scenario is when not only Serie A but also most or all soccer leagues in Europe will request all matches in closed stadiums or suspende all matches till the endemic (or pandemic) halts or reduces its severity.

The virus really harms many people, especially to other countries that continue to spread rapidly, and Italy is currently affected by the top position of course if this continues it will hamper the match in Serie A and supporters will not be there because of fear of contagious faster to players.
I am sure this will be a big polemic in Europe because this problem is really serious if one player will be exposed it will spread to the other.

[coinlocket$]

Not is official Juventus-Inter will be played with closed doors and the "limitation" in Turin will expire 2 hours later, what a classical italian joke.