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December 20, 2023, 01:40:48 PM
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I would say Napoli should now focus only on Serie A matches. Their performances in Serie A have been poor. They have lost 3 of their last 5 matches. Even fourth or fifth in the table is now much more difficult for Napoli. Fiorentina, Atalanta and Roma teams are trying to climb the table. And so if the performance of Napoli is not good, we will see the Napoli team in the seventh or eighth place of the table in the future.

The defeat to Frosione 0 - 4 and it happened at home, was a very embarrassing result for Napoli. They don't have any other schedule, in the UCL maybe they can't do much. Indeed, Napoli should focus on playing in Serie A, they need to improve their ranking in the standings to be able to play in the UCL next season. But, is it possible that Mazzari will be able to change Napoli's condition in the second half of the season? I'm a bit pessimistic. Mazzari needs to change the mentality of the players who are currently down because the match results do not match the expectations. This may takes time and it's unlikely to be enough with half a season left.

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December 20, 2023, 01:41:09 PM
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This is a devastating result for Napoli, no one could believe Napoli could be Eliminated by a team sitting at No.13 of the Italian league table and not just eliminating them but also winning them with 4 goals margin with no reply is very disappointing. Despite bringing on the team’s best players they still couldn’t make any changes in the game.

It was a humiliating defeat for Napoli. But I think in that match Napoli only fielded second-string players and there were several main players. It seems that Napoli is focused on improving their ranking in the League and playing well in the Champions League. However, losing by 4 goals like this is still quite embarrassing. Because if the reason is for the Champions League then the next match schedule is still very long away. Is this bad performance because Napoli don't really care about this match?

That's right, generally that is the main reason for big teams having busy schedules so they have to skip competitions that are considered unimportant if Napoli force their squad there will be a risk of injury or fatigue, this is nothing new. Napoli will focus more on the Champions League and Italian League and I think it's the right choice, in the Italian league, Napoli is not yet safe, they have to compete with 5 other teams to win tickets to the Champions League or European League. unless Napoli loses the opportunity in this important competition then Coppa Italia could be an alternative.

This is not a question of whether the Coppa Italia League match is important or not, but Napoli's poor performance in yesterday's match is not a benchmark for making excuses as if the match was an unimportant match, just admit that the defeat of last night's match is that Napoli this season is not as good as last season, the reason is A busy schedule is not a reason for big clubs to suffer from the fact that the defeat experienced by Napoli was really painful, even Frosinone's class was able to make Napoli helpless. If we talk about the busy schedule, Inter Milan also experienced this, but they are consistent in all leagues, SerieA, Liga. Coppa Italia, Champions League, it is very clear that Napoli are unable to compete this season to defend their title as Defending Serie A Champions.

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December 20, 2023, 01:43:00 PM
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Salernitana has no good gameplay against atalanta. I think that if this is the result that must be accepted by salernitana. It doesn't even matter how hard salernitana tried to beat atalanta but i think that if we are comparing both of clubs and salernitana was far behind atalanta. As a club that is placing at the relegation zone and this is a very bad result. Salernitana keeps very consistent to lose more points. It will put the situation of salernitana will not able to change. Salernitana must have done win streak to leave from the relegation zone.
This is too good to be true to happen with one of worst team in the serie a. It seems like we can decide the future of this club. Salernita will be relegated. Salernitana is not playing so badly.

It was able getting 48% ball possessions but the attacking line seemed to be the main trouble owned by salernitana. Staying in serie a few a few years are good achievement by this club but salernitana is likely going back again to the lower division.
This is going to give a huge impact to the financial condition from the team. Salernitana will receive less money from playing in the lower league compared to the serie a. This is a set back for salernitana.
Congrats for atalanta by getting three points against weak team. People should not even do analysis to determine the winner.
Salernitana have the worst performance in the Serie A this season, the chances of them escaping relegation is very slim and for them to do that, a lot of hard work is supposed to be put in, which I don't see them doing, well the heavy lose at home  against Atlanta didn't come as a surprise to me cause of their poor performance this season whereas Atlanta is really trying to get into the top four.

 Before the match against Atlanta, Salernitana lost against Bologna and even conceded a red card, making them shot of one key starter for face Atlanta, they were the least favorite in that match and I even picked Atlanta to win but I didn't believe the score line would be that much, Salernitana has lost three straight matches and I think more are yet to come cause they'll be playing against Milan in their next fixture.
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December 20, 2023, 01:43:12 PM
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It was a humiliating defeat for Napoli. But I think in that match Napoli only fielded second-string players and there were several main players. It seems that Napoli is focused on improving their ranking in the League and playing well in the Champions League. However, losing by 4 goals like this is still quite embarrassing. Because if the reason is for the Champions League then the next match schedule is still very long away. Is this bad performance because Napoli don't really care about this match?
Yes, this can be said so because they lost without any reply to Napoli at home.
Almost most of the big Serie A teams when they play in the Coppa Italia they always lower these second layer players do not want to take excessive risks on players so that more are rested.
Even though the Champion League is still long with a time lag while Serie A still continues every week, Napoli may consider Serie A more important than the Coppa Italia.

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December 20, 2023, 01:49:30 PM
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I don't want to see football as any sort of movie, like how or why would Napoli lose to a club that's not even healthy in the league table? This is so embarrassing I must say because on a normal day Napoli would make life a living hell for the away team like why on earth did they have to lose, not 1nil but 4-nil?
Is it that they're experiencing fatigue or what? Still confused I must say.
If Napoli continue like this I don't see them advancing into the next round in the champions league and they might not even qualify in any Europe competitions next season. As it is, I can't tell if they're inform or not.

Maybe the coach took the match too lightly. The 3 main attackers who usually have a place in the lineup did not play from the start. maybe that was Napoli's first mistake.
Oshimhen, Politano, and Kvaratskhelia became substitutes. Napoli tried to catch up but the situation was quite difficult when the opponent had adopted a more closed game.
coaches must be wiser if they want to rotate their players. At least they have to work hard to be in the top 4 of the standings. it will keep them in European competition next season.
It was bad that he left Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia on the bench because they almost couldn't get into position. Frosinone ruined them. They took risks in the last minutes, but the difference increased even more. A bad experience, a bad match experience for Napoli. For Frosinone, it was a match in which they could gain morale, even in the league.
To be honest, this was not the result that Napoli wanted and they underestimated Frosinone in the Coppa Italia competition. As a result, Napoli suffered a heavy defeat at home and they were finally eliminated from this competition. Even though Napoli really controlled the game, Frosinone made good use of every opportunity in this match. Even though Napoli included Kvaratskhelia and Osimhen in the second half, the problem emerged from then on because Frosinone scored 4 goals in a row against Napoli.

Even though Napoli is trying to catch up, it seems impossible to catch up with the 4 goal deficit and they have to give up the Coppa Italia this season. A very good performance from Frosinone, even though they were not seeded at all, they managed to send Napoli home in the round of 16 of the Coppa Italia and they advanced to the quarterfinals. I think the performance in the Coppa Italia will not affect Napoli's performance in Serie A because the competition is different and Napoli's current focus will only be on Serie A and the Champions League completely.
I'm sure that Napoli lost this game on purpose. They are not in the best position in the Serie A standings and they need to keep playing in the Champions League. The Italian Cup is not important for them and they will not waste strength on it. The main thing for them is to improve their position in Serie A and try their luck in the Champions League.
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December 20, 2023, 02:00:15 PM
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It was a humbling and an embarrassing result. I didn't expect Napoli to lose that game with such a score line. They couldn't even score a single goal. The fans will be disappointed with the manager. After the change of manager the fans were really hoping that their results will improve but now who are they going to blame for the bad season results they have been registering.

Oh, that's tough for Napoli and their fans. It's always disappointing when a team you support doesn't perform well, especially after a change in management. Do you think the players need more time to adjust, or is there something else affecting their performance?"

That proves that if rudi may not the main problem that makes napoli hard to get the win in the previous matches before he has been replaced by mazzarri. It's quite strange to see that napoli was using secondary line up for the this easy match against frosinone.
I would like to call that if there was mafia played from behind. It doesn't even make sense to see napoli used that line up.

Look at this



Does it make sense? kvarat, osimhan and many of the main players were starting from the bench.

Please watch the highlight. Look at the defensive line of napoli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s5A6MCJllA&ab_channel=SerieA

It was showing suspicious actions during the game. Fak there are so many mafia in serie a.

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December 20, 2023, 02:21:14 PM
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I'm sure that Napoli lost this game on purpose. They are not in the best position in the Serie A standings and they need to keep playing in the Champions League. The Italian Cup is not important for them and they will not waste strength on it. The main thing for them is to improve their position in Serie A and try their luck in the Champions League.

This is by far the most hilarious post I have read here in a long time. Did you know that Kevin De Bruyne injured his upper leg so he can rest until the European Championship 2024? He did it on purpose and now he can take all the time to prepare for the EURO games. Smart move, isn't it?

I don't know how much you know about football, but the national cups are quite important in most leagues and the Coppa Italia is one of them. Thinking that a team like Napoli loses a game on purpose there is fluffy at best.

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December 20, 2023, 02:25:18 PM
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It was a humiliating defeat for Napoli. But I think in that match Napoli only fielded second-string players and there were several main players. It seems that Napoli is focused on improving their ranking in the League and playing well in the Champions League. However, losing by 4 goals like this is still quite embarrassing. Because if the reason is for the Champions League then the next match schedule is still very long away. Is this bad performance because Napoli don't really care about this match?
Yes, this can be said so because they lost without any reply to Napoli at home.
Almost most of the big Serie A teams when they play in the Coppa Italia they always lower these second layer players do not want to take excessive risks on players so that more are rested.
Even though the Champion League is still long with a time lag while Serie A still continues every week, Napoli may consider Serie A more important than the Coppa Italia.

If Napoli chooses to focus more on Serie A than the Coppa Italia, perhaps because they want to catch or maintain their position in the league standings, maybe this could be the reason, but if they lose 0-4 at home, we all need to do it. questioned the quality of Napoli's second tier team
Yes, even with a busy schedule, especially when the team is involved in many competitions such as the Champions League and domestic league, managers often have to make strategic decisions to prioritize which competitions are considered more important.
and we all know that big teams often use reserve players or second-string players when playing in domestic cup competitions such as the Coppa Italia, especially when facing opponents who are considered weaker. However, for other teams, the difference between the first and second tier teams is not that striking, so crushing defeats can be avoided, especially from weak teams in the league.
So whatever the reason, losing 0-4 at home is very embarrassing for a team as big as Napoli
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December 20, 2023, 02:46:21 PM
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It was a humiliating defeat for Napoli. But I think in that match Napoli only fielded second-string players and there were several main players. It seems that Napoli is focused on improving their ranking in the League and playing well in the Champions League. However, losing by 4 goals like this is still quite embarrassing. Because if the reason is for the Champions League then the next match schedule is still very long away. Is this bad performance because Napoli don't really care about this match?
Yes, this can be said so because they lost without any reply to Napoli at home.
Almost most of the big Serie A teams when they play in the Coppa Italia they always lower these second layer players do not want to take excessive risks on players so that more are rested.
Even though the Champion League is still long with a time lag while Serie A still continues every week, Napoli may consider Serie A more important than the Coppa Italia.

As far as I'm concerned, when they play in the Coppa Italia these top teams are more likely to get bad results. Although in the end only the top teams managed to win the trophy, but those teams are also the ones that really have good stability also in Serie A at least . Therefore, despite Napoli have big loss by Frosinone but ya, I personally wasn't surprised by that result because it's a common occurrence for events like this.

Ofcourse, it would be a different judgment if a top Serie A team lost big like that for a match in Serie A and if the result is like that, then of course it would be a very bad judgment . But ya,as long as the top teams are still losing within a normal score, then atleast their considerations will also remain fine and will probably still be on track as well.

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December 20, 2023, 03:07:19 PM
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This is a devastating result for Napoli, no one could believe Napoli could be Eliminated by a team sitting at No.13 of the Italian league table and not just eliminating them but also winning them with 4 goals margin with no reply is very disappointing. Despite bringing on the team’s best players they still couldn’t make any changes in the game.

It was a humiliating defeat for Napoli. But I think in that match Napoli only fielded second-string players and there were several main players. It seems that Napoli is focused on improving their ranking in the League and playing well in the Champions League. However, losing by 4 goals like this is still quite embarrassing. Because if the reason is for the Champions League then the next match schedule is still very long away. Is this bad performance because Napoli don't really care about this match?
Regardless of whether they prioritized this match or not, the result they achieved in this match was disappointing. They played at home and with a fairly strong opponent, but they had to lose with a score of 0-4.
It should be to improve their mentality, Napoli must take advantage of every match to win. Because in Serie A itself they have experienced a lot of decline, in the Champions League they can qualify for the last 16, but overall their game is not satisfying and it is helped by their opponents who are also not good, especially Union Berlin.

A team that was literally fighting to stay out of the religion zone was actually be able to beat Napoli without too much problems!!

That is definitely something to worry about.

I absolutely agree that this was obviously a devastating loss for them. After all, they are the defending champions. People were expecting them to start performing better. But somehow they got beaten by a team that was somehow staying out of the relegation zone before this match. And now that team is almost on their way toward the mid table. And Napoli got beaten by them 4-0. They were unable to even score a single goal. I don't know if Napoli actually took this match easily or not. If they did that was definitely a very big mistake.

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December 20, 2023, 03:13:44 PM
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Napoli are performing very poorly in the Italian league which is why they must focus more on Serie A even though they are already far behind.  Inter, Juventus and Milan are many points ahead of them.  So it will be quite difficult for them to bridge this point gap and hope to be in a good position again. But since they have a record of doing well in the past, they can come back to a good position if they try.  So they should pay more attention to their performance
The draw back of Napoli currently, I think it's just a temporary one and they will definitely get over it especially if they don't suffer injuries again or been limited by internal crisis around the team. They were the winners last season, they recently changed their coach so I think it's a little set back they will be going through for awhile.

After awhile when they must have totally gotten used to their new Coach I'm sure they will be doing much better but I doubt if they will be able to defend their title this season because their performance isn't as good as it was last season. Juventus and inter Milan are definitely the most liable to win the title this season, especially inter Milan who has performed really well this season and Juventus aswell has been been at their best too and have been at the top a few times this season, it's mostly between Juventus and inter Milan to win the trophy this season.

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December 20, 2023, 04:15:38 PM
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I'm sure that Napoli lost this game on purpose. They are not in the best position in the Serie A standings and they need to keep playing in the Champions League.

What you say doesn't make sense, it's impossible for a team to deliberately lose a match, let alone a big loss against a weak team in front of its own supporters, which is quite embarrassing.
Indeed, basically Napoli's performance is very bad and inconsistent at the moment so they suffered this embarrassing defeat.
There is no other way for Napoli other than to recover and start improving, but with their current new coach and the few matches they have played, it appears that the possibility of them being able to compete at the top of Serie A this season is very small.

fzkto, It is literally out of the question and absurd what you are saying. Italian people are crazy about football and no club in the world would willingly lose a match just to reduce the pressure. Napoli doesn't have much going for them in the Serie A this season and I think they would consider it a win if they get to play Champions League next season. They got paired up against Barcelona which I think would be a 50-50 between them. Even if they win they got some strong teams coming up. Thinking logically, the only tournament they can win is the Italian cup. So what you just said is impossible.

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December 20, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
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I'm sure that Napoli lost this game on purpose. They are not in the best position in the Serie A standings and they need to keep playing in the Champions League. The Italian Cup is not important for them and they will not waste strength on it. The main thing for them is to improve their position in Serie A and try their luck in the Champions League.
If Napoli is still trying to improve its position in the Serie A standings, of course Napoli must always consider winning and it would be very unreasonable if Napoli deliberately lost the Coppa Italia to a team lower than them. Apart from that, Napoli also cannot give an excuse if they deliberately lost just because they are still in the Champions League this season, because their fans will certainly be very disappointed if Napoli admits that they deliberately lost a certain match even though it was outside of the Champions League competition.
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December 20, 2023, 04:21:07 PM
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I meant Coppa Italia.

Napoli lost by 4-0, Incredible result


This is a devastating result for Napoli, no one could believe Napoli could be Eliminated by a team sitting at No.13 of the Italian league table and not just eliminating them but also winning them with 4 goals margin with no reply is very disappointing. Despite bringing on the team?s best players they still couldn?t make any changes in the game.

The resignation of the former coach is still having effect on the entire team and the new coach is still yet to blend the team together perfectly as last season and it?s why their performance have dropped far too much.

I hope that these totally humiliating results for the Italian champion team are a warning both for the president and for the other presidents who believe they are God on earth when in fact with stupid decisions they only do damage to themselves.
Nobody`s blaming the president, I see.

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December 20, 2023, 05:04:28 PM
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I meant Coppa Italia.

Napoli lost by 4-0, Incredible result


This is a devastating result for Napoli, no one could believe Napoli could be Eliminated by a team sitting at No.13 of the Italian league table and not just eliminating them but also winning them with 4 goals margin with no reply is very disappointing. Despite bringing on the team?s best players they still couldn?t make any changes in the game.

The resignation of the former coach is still having effect on the entire team and the new coach is still yet to blend the team together perfectly as last season and it?s why their performance have dropped far too much.

I hope that these totally humiliating results for the Italian champion team are a warning both for the president and for the other presidents who believe they are God on earth when in fact with stupid decisions they only do damage to themselves.
Nobody`s blaming the president, I see.

I think, Napoli's mistake is to change the coach with a very short time, of course, this factor also has a bad impact on the team's performance this season. After all, the fact is that with the previous Garcia also at least Napoli can still compete well at least in the top five. Although indeed, it does not guarantee to defend the title but at least, Napoli can still compete in the upper zone in the Serie A standings and I think that's still good.

Currently, Napoli must accept the results by firing Garcia and appointing Mazzarri to become Napoli's head coach. Unfortunately, with Mazzarri it looks like Napoli are getting even worse results and with that, then of course there is no good hope for Napoli this season, maybe also for all competitions, not just in Serie A.

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December 20, 2023, 05:08:43 PM
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I'm sure that Napoli lost this game on purpose. They are not in the best position in the Serie A standings and they need to keep playing in the Champions League. The Italian Cup is not important for them and they will not waste strength on it. The main thing for them is to improve their position in Serie A and try their luck in the Champions League.
If Napoli is still trying to improve its position in the Serie A standings, of course Napoli must always consider winning and it would be very unreasonable if Napoli deliberately lost the Coppa Italia to a team lower than them. Apart from that, Napoli also cannot give an excuse if they deliberately lost just because they are still in the Champions League this season, because their fans will certainly be very disappointed if Napoli admits that they deliberately lost a certain match even though it was outside of the Champions League competition.
I think a team will always want to win, even if they are competing in a competition that is not their main target. But the problem is that they lost to a weak team, even though when comparing strengths, they have better strengths than the team that beat them in this match.
I think they should realize that winning is important in every match, no matter if it's in a big competition or a competition that is not the favorite. They are not in a good situation right now, in Serie A alone they are struggling to maintain their form. And if I relate it to their overall performance this season, then I'd say they're in a downward spiral that they're losing.

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December 20, 2023, 05:23:58 PM
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Currently, Napoli must accept the results by firing Garcia and appointing Mazzarri to become Napoli's head coach. Unfortunately, with Mazzarri it looks like Napoli are getting even worse results and with that, then of course there is no good hope for Napoli this season, maybe also for all competitions, not just in Serie A.

this situation may impact several players who will leave the team. However, Napoli has players who last season were highly sought after by European clubs. and a performance like this might also cause dissatisfaction from the players on the team.
Mazzarri will need time to build this team to at least get better. they had high expectations for a new coach, and Garcia didn't deliver. and another mistake was when Garcia was substituted again after a short time. and it is possible that if Mazzarri does not make good progress at the end of the season, maybe they will get another new coach.
Don't they see how big teams grow strong and dominate in Europe? no coach is like a magician.

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December 20, 2023, 05:32:14 PM
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I hope that these totally humiliating results for the Italian champion team are a warning both for the president and for the other presidents who believe they are God on earth when in fact with stupid decisions they only do damage to themselves.
Nobody`s blaming the president, I see.
The president of Napoli always takes steps that are too firm, but this is very fatal and has big impact on the development of the team, it has been proven that what the president of Napoli has really done has made the team feel significant setback this season.
Aurelio De Laurentiis was not satisfied with Rudi Garcia performance so he decided to fire him.
Even though it can be seen that Rudi Garcia has had poor performance only this season and even though it is still at the start of the season, Aurelio De Laurentiis doesn't trust him anymore.
The replacement of Rudi Garcia with Mazzarri was decisive action that was too early and excessive because Mazzarri apparently was also unable to bring about change for Napoli.
If conditions like this continue then it is very likely that Napoli will not regain the title in the future.

The Napoli president must be able to think about who should replace Mazzarri in the next season to be able to change Napoli for the better.
A good coach will be very influential, rather than prioritizing players who cannot necessarily contribute and perform better, the coach is the brain of team success because the strategy and composition of players depends on the greatness of the coach.

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December 20, 2023, 05:33:07 PM
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Regardless of whether they prioritized this match or not, the result they achieved in this match was disappointing. They played at home and with a fairly strong opponent, but they had to lose with a score of 0-4.
It should be to improve their mentality, Napoli must take advantage of every match to win. Because in Serie A itself they have experienced a lot of decline, in the Champions League they can qualify for the last 16, but overall their game is not satisfying and it is helped by their opponents who are also not good, especially Union Berlin.

exactly, I totally agree with what you say, the point is not to lose but to lose in this way with such a humiliating result
it is no coincidence that Mazzarri apologized to the fans, I understand, he took on a team that was totally in pieces, it cant be easy
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