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April 29, 2024, 01:35:24 PM
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Fiorentina crushed Sassuolo with a score of 5-1 and that was the biggest win for Fiorentina in the last 5 matches. In this match, it was clear that Fiorentina really dominated the game and Sassuolo's defense looked weak so they conceded very easily. On the other hand, Fiorentina also still wants to appear in European competition next season but they have a 5 point difference from Lazio if they want to be in this competition.

However, I am quite sure that Fiorentina can still penetrate that place considering that there are still 3 more matches left before Serie A ends. Currently, Fiorentina is also still fighting in the quarterfinals of the conference league and of course they will also target to win the title later. For Sassuolo, this defeat means they are still stuck in the red zone and it feels very difficult for them to escape the clutches of the red zone if they don't win in the remaining matches.

Florentina surprised me with such fire I saw in them, it is not an easy thing, I never expected such a number of goal in that match, if we put the past records into the lime light, we will understand that both teams are not more sophisticated than each other but the recent performance of sassuolo is not that encouraging despite that they are visiting team, I expected them to fight back no matter the situation, allowing florentina to win them with such a number of goal is not ideal.

As you said, their back was not what spectators expected from a team like that, florentina utilized their opportunities due to sassuolo lapses, the only record that was kept in that match by sassuolo was score atleast a goal in the game as for their performance and quest for goal i will say that it is zero.
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April 29, 2024, 01:36:27 PM
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The second match will be played at Atalanta's home ground and Atalanta is a bit behind that, now Atalanta is only 2 points behind and indeed this match will be decisive for both of them in the fight for 5th position.

If we look at Atalanta's overall performance now it has improved drastically compared to the start of the season and these two teams, Atalanta and Roma are also both focused on the semifinals of the Europa League and indeed their competition in the Serie A standings will be more interesting because both teams have quality. which is almost the same and also has the same focus.
Even though Atalanta is currently 2 points behind Roma who are in 5th place, Atalanta actually has a chance to reclaim 5th place. Because currently Atalanta has only played 33 matches. Meanwhile, Roma has played 34 matches. But the decision will probably take place when Atalanta will face Roma directly in Week 36.

And yes, both of them have almost the same quality at the moment. And both of them are also struggling in the European League. Namely in the Europa League semi-finals. It would be very interesting if in the end it turned out that Atalanta and Roma advanced to the Final in the Europa League.
Their focus is still divided with the Coppa Italia match so it is very difficult for Atalanta to catch up even though they are only two points from AS Roma, it seems there is no problem in catching up to maintain the Europa League zone, at least Atalanta can be able to end the season well and at least they are still a candidate European League even though Lazio and Fiorentia are still Atalanta's shadows to this day..

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April 29, 2024, 01:46:54 PM
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It's true, in the last 5 matches, Juventus were only able to win 1 time, and 1 defeat and the other 3 ended with a draw score which they got in a row. Meanwhile, As Roma has a better record, winning 2 times, losing 1 and ending in a draw. But the problem is that even though Juventus has a record that is not better, they are still Juventus, which is one of the good clubs this season.

Juventus will also definitely want to change their record of consecutive draws by winning this difficult match. They are also still threatened by Bologna, who are only 2 points behind in the standings, because if they lose this match, it is very likely that Bologna will be able to take over Juventus' position. The reason is that in the same week Bologna will also face Torino, who on paper are clearly superior to Torino.
Juventus will definitely retain their place in the Champions League zone, this has already become their main task long before the end of the season. Milan is out of reach for them, and Bologna is also losing a lot of points, but their task is the same as Juventus’s, just to stay in the top 5. Roma is in a difficult position, although they look very good now, but at the moment everything depends on Atalanta, since they have played one game less and can bypass Roma, the motivation is too high to miss this opportunity.

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April 29, 2024, 02:16:15 PM
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Watch out for Atalanta; they may have a major edge over Roma for 5th. Success depends on momentum, and Atalanta's schedule helps. They're playing Salernitana next. Yikes. Simply enough, Salernitana had a horrible season. Atalanta has a fantastic opportunity to win three points. Roma is in a separate boat. They're playing Juventus, which is a different animal. Do not expect an easy win. Atalanta may win if the time is good before their match with Roma. Serie A drama shines when the table is on edge
Roma made a change by bringing in De Rossi to replace José Mourinho, and things have improved under their new manager. They're now just four points away from the top four, which is a big change. But Roma has faced tough opponents in the last couple of months, and their next match against Atalanta won't be any easier.
On the other hand, Atalanta is aiming to continue their good form and climb above Roma in the standings. They're looking back in the race for a Champions League spot after winning their next matches.
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April 29, 2024, 02:20:54 PM
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When Inter have won, then Salernitana seems to be the first team to drop to Serie B. Udinese and Sassuolo seem to continue to fight to survive because their gap with 17th place is very thin. So they have a chance of survival, but it's heavy. It seems that Parma are strong candidates for promotion to Serie A, they may be accompanied by Como and Venezia. For the others, it seems that Milan, Juventus and Bologna will be with Inter to the UCL. It seems that Bologna became a surprise team to make it into the top 4.

I think Salernitana are definitely going to be relegated because they're really behind and have no chance of getting out of the relegation zone. But the interesting thing about the Serie B team that will be promoted to Serie A nextseason is about Parma. Because anyway, as far as I remember that Parma was rumored to be almost bankrupt at that time and a lot of debt, so Parma was dropped furtherdown from Serie B. But at the moment, I'm surprised Parma are the top team in Serie B although it's not certain that Parma will be promoted to Serie A next season, but I hope Parma will succeed.

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April 29, 2024, 02:31:07 PM
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Inter milano was a better side in their match with Torino, despite that Torino struggle to get a draw in the first half of the game, inter maintain an impressive play in the second half, it earned them the 3 Points in the match, Torino use to be be a good side and an obstacle to many big teams in the Italian serie A but I can tell you that this season has not been very smooth for them, though inter is not their match this season but generally Torino has flopped.
I somuch congratulate inter for this winning, I think with this singular act of theirs, the league will be theirs soon, a good team remains a good team any time any day.
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April 29, 2024, 02:32:59 PM
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Roma made a change by bringing in De Rossi to replace José Mourinho, and things have improved under their new manager. They're now just four points away from the top four, which is a big change. But Roma has faced tough opponents in the last couple of months, and their next match against Atalanta won't be any easier.
On the other hand, Atalanta is aiming to continue their good form and climb above Roma in the standings. They're looking back in the race for a Champions League spot after winning their next matches.
De Rossi is currently faced with a difficult situation, the pressure they are under is quite heavy to break into the top four, and Roma also have to divide their focus to other matches in the Europa League. Being 4 points behind Bologna can still be reduced by appearing consistent, but this really depends on Bologna next opponent. Roma failed to compete with Bologna directly, and in the last match Napoli again hampered De Rossi efforts to bring his squad to finish in the Champions League zone. Apart from that, Roma position itself is actually quite threatened by Atalanta, this is the toughest test for De Rossi since taking over the club from Jose Mourinho.

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April 29, 2024, 02:40:31 PM
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I think Salernitana are definitely going to be relegated because they're really behind and have no chance of getting out of the relegation zone. But the interesting thing about the Serie B team that will be promoted to Serie A nextseason is about Parma. Because anyway, as far as I remember that Parma was rumored to be almost bankrupt at that time and a lot of debt, so Parma was dropped furtherdown from Serie B. But at the moment, I'm surprised Parma are the top team in Serie B although it's not certain that Parma will be promoted to Serie A next season, but I hope Parma will succeed.

It's true, Parma was declared bankrupt, at that time Parma tried to survive without an owner for several seasons. I didn't really follow Parma news/updates afterwards, but AFAIK, it is owned by a company from the United States. Returning to Serie A after falling to Serie D when it went bankrupt, i think this is amazing achievement. After all, Parma is a club that has a sweet history in the past and become one of the big four in Serie A. Lucky for them can survive few years without owner.

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April 29, 2024, 02:56:43 PM
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When Inter have won, then Salernitana seems to be the first team to drop to Serie B. Udinese and Sassuolo seem to continue to fight to survive because their gap with 17th place is very thin. So they have a chance of survival, but it's heavy. It seems that Parma are strong candidates for promotion to Serie A, they may be accompanied by Como and Venezia. For the others, it seems that Milan, Juventus and Bologna will be with Inter to the UCL. It seems that Bologna became a surprise team to make it into the top 4.

I think Salernitana are definitely going to be relegated because they're really behind and have no chance of getting out of the relegation zone. But the interesting thing about the Serie B team that will be promoted to Serie A nextseason is about Parma. Because anyway, as far as I remember that Parma was rumored to be almost bankrupt at that time and a lot of debt, so Parma was dropped furtherdown from Serie B. But at the moment, I'm surprised Parma are the top team in Serie B although it's not certain that Parma will be promoted to Serie A next season, but I hope Parma will succeed.



It's obvious that Salernitana will be relegated from serie A this season. Salernitana acquires only 15 points from 34 matches which is very small compared to the its competitors that have been surpassing 30 points like empoli and other clubs above it. The difficult situation is also occurring with Sassuolo, which is also getting very minimum points this season after it was also passting. Sassuolo has suffered a poor result after missing three points against Fiorentina and it makes sassuolo has no chance anymore to leave from the relegation zone, it's really disappointed result delivered by sassuolo. This time, the gap between Sassuolo and the Empoli is growing wider. I strongly believe sassuolo has no chance anymore to leave from the relegation zone with remaining matches owned by the club. it looks impossible for sassuolo to surpass empoli with the current performance, it may be missing more points as the opposite result from sassuolo.

There are fewer matches remaining, but I doubt Sassuolo will be relegated this season after consistently missing three points. I strongly believe the snow ball impact is gonna happen with sassuolo. IMO, two teams will be relegated. Sassuolo and Salernitana have emerged as potential candidates for the Serie B.
It is a shameful performance from Sassuolo because the club has performed so poorly this season far from my expectation to see sassuolo to stay at the mid table, losing a large number of matches and got zero points in almost everygame has forced sassuolo to be relegated after this club was always able staying at the . Sassuolo has experienced significant declines since the middle of season and it's not stopping yet.

This club must address numerous issues owned by the club, it can go back to the serie a after next season.


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April 29, 2024, 03:37:18 PM
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The second match will be played at Atalanta's home ground and Atalanta is a bit behind that, now Atalanta is only 2 points behind and indeed this match will be decisive for both of them in the fight for 5th position.

If we look at Atalanta's overall performance now it has improved drastically compared to the start of the season and these two teams, Atalanta and Roma are also both focused on the semifinals of the Europa League and indeed their competition in the Serie A standings will be more interesting because both teams have quality. which is almost the same and also has the same focus.
Even though Atalanta is currently 2 points behind Roma who are in 5th place, Atalanta actually has a chance to reclaim 5th place. Because currently Atalanta has only played 33 matches. Meanwhile, Roma has played 34 matches. But the decision will probably take place when Atalanta will face Roma directly in Week 36.

And yes, both of them have almost the same quality at the moment. And both of them are also struggling in the European League. Namely in the Europa League semi-finals. It would be very interesting if in the end it turned out that Atalanta and Roma advanced to the Final in the Europa League.
The match between Atlanta vs AS Roma will take place in Week 36 of Serie A, so there is still 1 more match before they actually meet. Well, here lies the advantage for Atalanta in my opinion, namely in week 35. The reason is that AS Roma will face Juventus and Atalanta will face an easier opponent by facing Salernitana. Facing Juventus is clearly not an easy thing for AS Roma, even though they are playing at their home ground, Juventus is a strong club, as evidenced by the 3rd position they currently occupy.

I'm not sure AS Roma can win that match even though their chances are still there and maybe they will only achieve a draw. Meanwhile, I think Atalanta will be able to win the match against Salernitana, because their opponent is clearly easier, who is at the bottom of the standings at the moment and has already confirmed that they will not be in Serie A next season. I think Atalanta has a very good chance of taking AS Roma's position.

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April 29, 2024, 03:50:57 PM
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Inter milano was a better side in their match with Torino, despite that Torino struggle to get a draw in the first half of the game, inter maintain an impressive play in the second half, it earned them the 3 Points in the match, Torino use to be be a good side and an obstacle to many big teams in the Italian serie A but I can tell you that this season has not been very smooth for them, though inter is not their match this season but generally Torino has flopped.
I somuch congratulate inter for this winning, I think with this singular act of theirs, the league will be theirs soon, a good team remains a good team any time any day.

It was really nice to see Torino players applauding the champion players while entering the pitch. We really need this kind of things especially instead of unwanted incidents among the players or supporters.  Smiley

Torino were like aimless by the way. I wasn't expecting them to make big difficulties for Inter which was what really happened. I liked Hakan Calhanoglu's performance a lot in this game with 2 goals.  Smiley  He is really one of the special players for Inter now. In addition to that he is having his most productive season in the Serie A in terms of scoring. With these goals the number has reached 13 goals. He already has 3 years to go on his contract and I think he would stay until the end of his contract as well.

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April 29, 2024, 04:07:57 PM
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Roma have risk to lose the fifth position even before a direct match with Atalanta. With any scenario, that direct match will be very important for both clubs to get a fifth position in Serie A. With their quality that is similar and with their performances recently, it is a risky match for both of them. In this competition, now Atalanta can control it and if they win their rest matches, and only need a draw in a match with Roma, they will beat Roma and take a fifth position in Serie A.

Their performances in Serie A will seriously be affected by their matches in Europa League because two semi final matches will require a lot of inputs from them.

It seems to me that Atalanta is already a favorite in the fight for 5th place (and a ticket to the Champions League) since they have a game in hand (although the opponent is not so simple - Fiorentina) and the remaining games are quite easy: Salernitana, Lecce, Torino. For Roma everything looks more complicated: Juvents, Genoa, Empoli. It seems to me that Atalanta will lose points in the game with Fiorentina, and Roma in the game with Juventus, and if Roma does not win against Atalanta in the head-to-head match, it will end the season in 6th place.

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April 29, 2024, 04:14:08 PM
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It was really nice to see Torino players applauding the champion players while entering the pitch. We really need this kind of things especially instead of unwanted incidents among the players or supporters.  Smiley

Torino were like aimless by the way. I wasn't expecting them to make big difficulties for Inter which was what really happened. I liked Hakan Calhanoglu's performance a lot in this game with 2 goals.  Smiley  He is really one of the special players for Inter now. In addition to that he is having his most productive season in the Serie A in terms of scoring. With these goals the number has reached 13 goals. He already has 3 years to go on his contract and I think he would stay until the end of his contract as well.
Players applauding the opponent winning the league is something common in football nowadays. Almost all professional football leagues in the world have this gesture. Unwanted incidents just sometime happen in the intense games between big rivals in important matches, Those never happen in a meaningless game like Torino vs Inter.

This game was played flawlessly because the result of the game won't mean anything for both team, therefore the players played freely without any pressure to win the game. Maybe each players had interest in scoring goal because it would be a positive thing for their statistisc history, which can be a good mark for their career.

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April 29, 2024, 04:28:00 PM
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It seems to me that Atalanta is already a favorite in the fight for 5th place (and a ticket to the Champions League) since they have a game in hand (although the opponent is not so simple - Fiorentina) and the remaining games are quite easy: Salernitana, Lecce, Torino. For Roma everything looks more complicated: Juvents, Genoa, Empoli. It seems to me that Atalanta will lose points in the game with Fiorentina, and Roma in the game with Juventus, and if Roma does not win against Atalanta in the head-to-head match, it will end the season in 6th place.
To some extent I had underrated Atalanta but, that changed a lot after I saw them play Liverpool in the Europa. They made Liverpool seem like a total different team, especially in the first league. I knew they would come with a more reserve style of play in the second leg and they did, had there schemes, archived it and held on to secure there place with aggregates.

Looking on to there place in the top 5 of serie A, they are a much better team than I can say for Fiorentina.
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April 29, 2024, 04:54:12 PM
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To some extent I had underrated Atalanta but, that changed a lot after I saw them play Liverpool in the Europa. They made Liverpool seem like a total different team, especially in the first league. I knew they would come with a more reserve style of play in the second leg and they did, had there schemes, archived it and held on to secure there place with aggregates.

Looking on to there place in the top 5 of serie A, they are a much better team than I can say for Fiorentina.
Atlanta victory over Liverpool in the European League seemed to be the beginning of their resurgence this season, previously many underestimated they could beat Liverpool at that time but in fact we can see how Liverpool was humiliated by Atlanta at Anfield at that time, the victory over Liverpool made their motivation to play in the league increased and even Atlanta which was previously far below the European competition zone was slowly able to rise and continue Their positive trend until now, Atlanta is now only 2 points away from Roma who are in the Europa League zone and I think it will not be difficult for Atlanta to be able to take 5th place from Roma because indeed next week Roma will face a difficult match against Juventus.

Compared to Fiorentina and Lazio, of course, Atlanta has a better chance of being able to win Europa League tickets next season, now even Atlanta has a chance to end the season with the Coppa Italia trophy if they are able to beat Juventus in the final match later, besides that Atlanta even surprised us all with their ability to reach the semi-finals,  So if they are lucky, of course they can get the Europa League trophy and at the same time get a place in the Champions League next season through the path of winning the Europa League this season.

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April 29, 2024, 04:54:24 PM
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I think Inter really doesn't have the ambition to win. I saw Simone Inzaghi rotate players several times in previous matches. They have already lost once so they no longer have an unbeaten record so there is nothing they want to achieve in the remaining matches.

I understand your point but I doubt because Inter Milan major goal on this season is to win the league and with there performance this season right from day one of the season till now they have been doing very well and they have the best record so far on this league and because of how good they are they have been able to use there performance to outperform every other team and secure the kind of point they have now, so actually if you check the amount of points they have now you will realize that even if they lose three matches it will not affect them from there chance of wining the league so perhaps I believe that if there is any change on there performance lately is because they are already certain that the league belongs to them so perhaps that's why they are no longer showing much seriousness again.
Inter Milan have confirmed the Serie A title this season even though there are still several matches left for this season, but their points can no longer be overtaken and Inter Milan has confirmed the champions when they win the Milan Derby match.
No one can deny that Inter Milan's performance this season is quite impressive, they are quite strong and consistent, but because there is no longer any motivation for the remaining Serie A matches this season, I no longer believe in betting on Inter Milan's victory, it is quite risky because of the possibility Most coaches will rotate players a lot and that makes it possible for Inter Milan not to be able to play their best match.
Currently Inter Milan is playing against Torina and the first half result is still a draw, even though they are playing at home, I am a little hesitant to bet on Inter Milan winning.

Of course that was the point I was trying to make because unlike season ago when Inter Milan was a bit poor in terms of there performance they decided to change there method on this season by improving so much that there performance has gotten above every other clubs on this season, so like you said they have actually gotten so far that in terms of there points they have already win the league but however they would need to step up there performance more against there next season because there performance this season cannot determine how they will perform on there next season because I think it may not going to be easy on them performing the way they did on this season.

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April 29, 2024, 05:02:48 PM
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Players applauding the opponent winning the league is something common in football nowadays. Almost all professional football leagues in the world have this gesture. Unwanted incidents just sometime happen in the intense games between big rivals in important matches, Those never happen in a meaningless game like Torino vs Inter.

This game was played flawlessly because the result of the game won't mean anything for both team, therefore the players played freely without any pressure to win the game. Maybe each players had interest in scoring goal because it would be a positive thing for their statistisc history, which can be a good mark for their career.
Torino is not a match for Inter Milan this season so I was not surprised when I saw the results of their match, especially since it happened at Inter Milan's home ground, which at this time actually no longer needs to win the match because Inter is already the champion team this season. But the victory will still not be in vain because it can also reflect that Inter Milan is truly strong and serious in building its performance this season from the start to the end of the season.

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April 29, 2024, 05:12:57 PM
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To some extent I had underrated Atalanta but, that changed a lot after I saw them play Liverpool in the Europa. They made Liverpool seem like a total different team, especially in the first league. I knew they would come with a more reserve style of play in the second leg and they did, had there schemes, archived it and held on to secure there place with aggregates.

Looking on to there place in the top 5 of serie A, they are a much better team than I can say for Fiorentina.

For Atalanta, I don't think they will push themselves too hard when playing the remaining matches in Serie A especially hunting for European league tickets clearly that would be a risk to the condition of their players. As we know, Atalanta is currently taking part in 2 other competitions that are no less important 2 matches in the Europa League and 1 match in the final Coppa, of course this is more important than matches in Serie A because there is the potential to win a trophy.

I'm not saying Atalanta look better, it's just that sometimes they are unpredictable I mean they lose against weak teams but win against stronger teams, from this we can conclude that Atalanta is a team that cannot be predicted. So if you want to bet on Atalanta, you should avoid betting on Serie A matches because they will prioritize matches in other competitions.

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April 29, 2024, 05:14:54 PM
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It seems to me that Atalanta is already a favorite in the fight for 5th place (and a ticket to the Champions League) since they have a game in hand (although the opponent is not so simple - Fiorentina) and the remaining games are quite easy: Salernitana, Lecce, Torino. For Roma everything looks more complicated: Juvents, Genoa, Empoli. It seems to me that Atalanta will lose points in the game with Fiorentina, and Roma in the game with Juventus, and if Roma does not win against Atalanta in the head-to-head match, it will end the season in 6th place.

I agree with what you said. But I think AS Roma has a better chance even though in the rankings Roma is 1 point behind Atalanta if they win against Fiorentina. After that they will face several matches and the two will meet next month. I think it is a match to determine who will stay in 5th place and get a ticket to the European league next season. Statistically, I prefer AS Roma because after being with De Rossi I see AS Roma as a solid team.

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April 29, 2024, 05:58:37 PM
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It's true, Parma was declared bankrupt, at that time Parma tried to survive without an owner for several seasons. I didn't really follow Parma news/updates afterwards, but AFAIK, it is owned by a company from the United States. Returning to Serie A after falling to Serie D when it went bankrupt, i think this is amazing achievement. After all, Parma is a club that has a sweet history in the past and become one of the big four in Serie A. Lucky for them can survive few years without owner.
true. It was.
But now, it's being much more better.
As what I read from this news, Pharm was owned by the Krause Group, US Frim since February 2021. they also hoped to redesign the stadium, and it is now progressing. So, when Pharma returns to Serie A, the project of stadium redesign is also progressing and also almost finished.

It looks like they are indeed trying to rebuild it, not only in their facilities but also in their capabilities, especially as they are given the opportunity to return to Serie A. Their managing director, Luca Martines, said:
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“I believe that the best thing, if it goes as we all hope, is for Parma to play the next championship at the Tardini,”

With this, they will be probably more ready again. But once again, Serie A is also not an easy league. Pharma must be more ready to enter the Serie A after qualifying from Serie B. They must struggle more in order to keep it up at the Serie A much longer, not being in relegation zone anymore.

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https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2024/02/23/parma-calcio-eyes-2025-start-date-for-new-tardini/

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