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April 29, 2024, 03:37:18 PM
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The second match will be played at Atalanta's home ground and Atalanta is a bit behind that, now Atalanta is only 2 points behind and indeed this match will be decisive for both of them in the fight for 5th position.

If we look at Atalanta's overall performance now it has improved drastically compared to the start of the season and these two teams, Atalanta and Roma are also both focused on the semifinals of the Europa League and indeed their competition in the Serie A standings will be more interesting because both teams have quality. which is almost the same and also has the same focus.
Even though Atalanta is currently 2 points behind Roma who are in 5th place, Atalanta actually has a chance to reclaim 5th place. Because currently Atalanta has only played 33 matches. Meanwhile, Roma has played 34 matches. But the decision will probably take place when Atalanta will face Roma directly in Week 36.

And yes, both of them have almost the same quality at the moment. And both of them are also struggling in the European League. Namely in the Europa League semi-finals. It would be very interesting if in the end it turned out that Atalanta and Roma advanced to the Final in the Europa League.
The match between Atlanta vs AS Roma will take place in Week 36 of Serie A, so there is still 1 more match before they actually meet. Well, here lies the advantage for Atalanta in my opinion, namely in week 35. The reason is that AS Roma will face Juventus and Atalanta will face an easier opponent by facing Salernitana. Facing Juventus is clearly not an easy thing for AS Roma, even though they are playing at their home ground, Juventus is a strong club, as evidenced by the 3rd position they currently occupy.

I'm not sure AS Roma can win that match even though their chances are still there and maybe they will only achieve a draw. Meanwhile, I think Atalanta will be able to win the match against Salernitana, because their opponent is clearly easier, who is at the bottom of the standings at the moment and has already confirmed that they will not be in Serie A next season. I think Atalanta has a very good chance of taking AS Roma's position.

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April 29, 2024, 03:50:57 PM
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Inter milano was a better side in their match with Torino, despite that Torino struggle to get a draw in the first half of the game, inter maintain an impressive play in the second half, it earned them the 3 Points in the match, Torino use to be be a good side and an obstacle to many big teams in the Italian serie A but I can tell you that this season has not been very smooth for them, though inter is not their match this season but generally Torino has flopped.
I somuch congratulate inter for this winning, I think with this singular act of theirs, the league will be theirs soon, a good team remains a good team any time any day.

It was really nice to see Torino players applauding the champion players while entering the pitch. We really need this kind of things especially instead of unwanted incidents among the players or supporters.  Smiley

Torino were like aimless by the way. I wasn't expecting them to make big difficulties for Inter which was what really happened. I liked Hakan Calhanoglu's performance a lot in this game with 2 goals.  Smiley  He is really one of the special players for Inter now. In addition to that he is having his most productive season in the Serie A in terms of scoring. With these goals the number has reached 13 goals. He already has 3 years to go on his contract and I think he would stay until the end of his contract as well.

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April 29, 2024, 04:07:57 PM
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Roma have risk to lose the fifth position even before a direct match with Atalanta. With any scenario, that direct match will be very important for both clubs to get a fifth position in Serie A. With their quality that is similar and with their performances recently, it is a risky match for both of them. In this competition, now Atalanta can control it and if they win their rest matches, and only need a draw in a match with Roma, they will beat Roma and take a fifth position in Serie A.

Their performances in Serie A will seriously be affected by their matches in Europa League because two semi final matches will require a lot of inputs from them.

It seems to me that Atalanta is already a favorite in the fight for 5th place (and a ticket to the Champions League) since they have a game in hand (although the opponent is not so simple - Fiorentina) and the remaining games are quite easy: Salernitana, Lecce, Torino. For Roma everything looks more complicated: Juvents, Genoa, Empoli. It seems to me that Atalanta will lose points in the game with Fiorentina, and Roma in the game with Juventus, and if Roma does not win against Atalanta in the head-to-head match, it will end the season in 6th place.

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April 29, 2024, 04:14:08 PM
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It was really nice to see Torino players applauding the champion players while entering the pitch. We really need this kind of things especially instead of unwanted incidents among the players or supporters.  Smiley

Torino were like aimless by the way. I wasn't expecting them to make big difficulties for Inter which was what really happened. I liked Hakan Calhanoglu's performance a lot in this game with 2 goals.  Smiley  He is really one of the special players for Inter now. In addition to that he is having his most productive season in the Serie A in terms of scoring. With these goals the number has reached 13 goals. He already has 3 years to go on his contract and I think he would stay until the end of his contract as well.
Players applauding the opponent winning the league is something common in football nowadays. Almost all professional football leagues in the world have this gesture. Unwanted incidents just sometime happen in the intense games between big rivals in important matches, Those never happen in a meaningless game like Torino vs Inter.

This game was played flawlessly because the result of the game won't mean anything for both team, therefore the players played freely without any pressure to win the game. Maybe each players had interest in scoring goal because it would be a positive thing for their statistisc history, which can be a good mark for their career.

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April 29, 2024, 04:28:00 PM
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It seems to me that Atalanta is already a favorite in the fight for 5th place (and a ticket to the Champions League) since they have a game in hand (although the opponent is not so simple - Fiorentina) and the remaining games are quite easy: Salernitana, Lecce, Torino. For Roma everything looks more complicated: Juvents, Genoa, Empoli. It seems to me that Atalanta will lose points in the game with Fiorentina, and Roma in the game with Juventus, and if Roma does not win against Atalanta in the head-to-head match, it will end the season in 6th place.
To some extent I had underrated Atalanta but, that changed a lot after I saw them play Liverpool in the Europa. They made Liverpool seem like a total different team, especially in the first league. I knew they would come with a more reserve style of play in the second leg and they did, had there schemes, archived it and held on to secure there place with aggregates.

Looking on to there place in the top 5 of serie A, they are a much better team than I can say for Fiorentina.

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April 29, 2024, 04:54:12 PM
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To some extent I had underrated Atalanta but, that changed a lot after I saw them play Liverpool in the Europa. They made Liverpool seem like a total different team, especially in the first league. I knew they would come with a more reserve style of play in the second leg and they did, had there schemes, archived it and held on to secure there place with aggregates.

Looking on to there place in the top 5 of serie A, they are a much better team than I can say for Fiorentina.
Atlanta victory over Liverpool in the European League seemed to be the beginning of their resurgence this season, previously many underestimated they could beat Liverpool at that time but in fact we can see how Liverpool was humiliated by Atlanta at Anfield at that time, the victory over Liverpool made their motivation to play in the league increased and even Atlanta which was previously far below the European competition zone was slowly able to rise and continue Their positive trend until now, Atlanta is now only 2 points away from Roma who are in the Europa League zone and I think it will not be difficult for Atlanta to be able to take 5th place from Roma because indeed next week Roma will face a difficult match against Juventus.

Compared to Fiorentina and Lazio, of course, Atlanta has a better chance of being able to win Europa League tickets next season, now even Atlanta has a chance to end the season with the Coppa Italia trophy if they are able to beat Juventus in the final match later, besides that Atlanta even surprised us all with their ability to reach the semi-finals,  So if they are lucky, of course they can get the Europa League trophy and at the same time get a place in the Champions League next season through the path of winning the Europa League this season.

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April 29, 2024, 04:54:24 PM
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I think Inter really doesn't have the ambition to win. I saw Simone Inzaghi rotate players several times in previous matches. They have already lost once so they no longer have an unbeaten record so there is nothing they want to achieve in the remaining matches.

I understand your point but I doubt because Inter Milan major goal on this season is to win the league and with there performance this season right from day one of the season till now they have been doing very well and they have the best record so far on this league and because of how good they are they have been able to use there performance to outperform every other team and secure the kind of point they have now, so actually if you check the amount of points they have now you will realize that even if they lose three matches it will not affect them from there chance of wining the league so perhaps I believe that if there is any change on there performance lately is because they are already certain that the league belongs to them so perhaps that's why they are no longer showing much seriousness again.
Inter Milan have confirmed the Serie A title this season even though there are still several matches left for this season, but their points can no longer be overtaken and Inter Milan has confirmed the champions when they win the Milan Derby match.
No one can deny that Inter Milan's performance this season is quite impressive, they are quite strong and consistent, but because there is no longer any motivation for the remaining Serie A matches this season, I no longer believe in betting on Inter Milan's victory, it is quite risky because of the possibility Most coaches will rotate players a lot and that makes it possible for Inter Milan not to be able to play their best match.
Currently Inter Milan is playing against Torina and the first half result is still a draw, even though they are playing at home, I am a little hesitant to bet on Inter Milan winning.

Of course that was the point I was trying to make because unlike season ago when Inter Milan was a bit poor in terms of there performance they decided to change there method on this season by improving so much that there performance has gotten above every other clubs on this season, so like you said they have actually gotten so far that in terms of there points they have already win the league but however they would need to step up there performance more against there next season because there performance this season cannot determine how they will perform on there next season because I think it may not going to be easy on them performing the way they did on this season.

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April 29, 2024, 05:02:48 PM
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Players applauding the opponent winning the league is something common in football nowadays. Almost all professional football leagues in the world have this gesture. Unwanted incidents just sometime happen in the intense games between big rivals in important matches, Those never happen in a meaningless game like Torino vs Inter.

This game was played flawlessly because the result of the game won't mean anything for both team, therefore the players played freely without any pressure to win the game. Maybe each players had interest in scoring goal because it would be a positive thing for their statistisc history, which can be a good mark for their career.
Torino is not a match for Inter Milan this season so I was not surprised when I saw the results of their match, especially since it happened at Inter Milan's home ground, which at this time actually no longer needs to win the match because Inter is already the champion team this season. But the victory will still not be in vain because it can also reflect that Inter Milan is truly strong and serious in building its performance this season from the start to the end of the season.

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April 29, 2024, 05:12:57 PM
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To some extent I had underrated Atalanta but, that changed a lot after I saw them play Liverpool in the Europa. They made Liverpool seem like a total different team, especially in the first league. I knew they would come with a more reserve style of play in the second leg and they did, had there schemes, archived it and held on to secure there place with aggregates.

Looking on to there place in the top 5 of serie A, they are a much better team than I can say for Fiorentina.

For Atalanta, I don't think they will push themselves too hard when playing the remaining matches in Serie A especially hunting for European league tickets clearly that would be a risk to the condition of their players. As we know, Atalanta is currently taking part in 2 other competitions that are no less important 2 matches in the Europa League and 1 match in the final Coppa, of course this is more important than matches in Serie A because there is the potential to win a trophy.

I'm not saying Atalanta look better, it's just that sometimes they are unpredictable I mean they lose against weak teams but win against stronger teams, from this we can conclude that Atalanta is a team that cannot be predicted. So if you want to bet on Atalanta, you should avoid betting on Serie A matches because they will prioritize matches in other competitions.

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April 29, 2024, 05:14:54 PM
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It seems to me that Atalanta is already a favorite in the fight for 5th place (and a ticket to the Champions League) since they have a game in hand (although the opponent is not so simple - Fiorentina) and the remaining games are quite easy: Salernitana, Lecce, Torino. For Roma everything looks more complicated: Juvents, Genoa, Empoli. It seems to me that Atalanta will lose points in the game with Fiorentina, and Roma in the game with Juventus, and if Roma does not win against Atalanta in the head-to-head match, it will end the season in 6th place.

I agree with what you said. But I think AS Roma has a better chance even though in the rankings Roma is 1 point behind Atalanta if they win against Fiorentina. After that they will face several matches and the two will meet next month. I think it is a match to determine who will stay in 5th place and get a ticket to the European league next season. Statistically, I prefer AS Roma because after being with De Rossi I see AS Roma as a solid team.

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April 29, 2024, 05:58:37 PM
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It's true, Parma was declared bankrupt, at that time Parma tried to survive without an owner for several seasons. I didn't really follow Parma news/updates afterwards, but AFAIK, it is owned by a company from the United States. Returning to Serie A after falling to Serie D when it went bankrupt, i think this is amazing achievement. After all, Parma is a club that has a sweet history in the past and become one of the big four in Serie A. Lucky for them can survive few years without owner.
true. It was.
But now, it's being much more better.
As what I read from this news, Pharm was owned by the Krause Group, US Frim since February 2021. they also hoped to redesign the stadium, and it is now progressing. So, when Pharma returns to Serie A, the project of stadium redesign is also progressing and also almost finished.

It looks like they are indeed trying to rebuild it, not only in their facilities but also in their capabilities, especially as they are given the opportunity to return to Serie A. Their managing director, Luca Martines, said:
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“I believe that the best thing, if it goes as we all hope, is for Parma to play the next championship at the Tardini,”

With this, they will be probably more ready again. But once again, Serie A is also not an easy league. Pharma must be more ready to enter the Serie A after qualifying from Serie B. They must struggle more in order to keep it up at the Serie A much longer, not being in relegation zone anymore.

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https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2024/02/23/parma-calcio-eyes-2025-start-date-for-new-tardini/

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April 29, 2024, 06:13:15 PM
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I agree with what you said. But I think AS Roma has a better chance even though in the rankings Roma is 1 point behind Atalanta if they win against Fiorentina. After that they will face several matches and the two will meet next month. I think it is a match to determine who will stay in 5th place and get a ticket to the European league next season. Statistically, I prefer AS Roma because after being with De Rossi I see AS Roma as a solid team.
They're in the Europa League and facing one of the fierce opposition ought to be huge challenge for them. AS Roma will continue to strive for important winnings and their new coach, they can surf in for incredible results this season. I know it's not going to be easy one but they're one of the cooperative team in Seria A and accomplishing their goal shouldn't be an issue for them. AS Roma have always been decisive when it comes to consistency in winning matches. It's really difficult for Roma but they have good odds of winning tough matches.

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April 29, 2024, 06:39:52 PM
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To be fair Roma got a tie as well so Bologna getting a tie wasn't really a big deal for them. If Roma won then they would be just within one game and that could be a risk but because Roma managed to get only a tie as well we end up with basically nothing serious there. I am sure that Bologna will manage to keep their fourth place, which I think was unexpected at the start of the season if you asked anyone.

In fact, if you switched 9th place Napoli with 4th place Bologna and just showed people at the start of the season, people would say that makes sense. But as we know now, Napoli had a terrible terrible season coming off a title, which is a big shocker and Bologna had a season unlike any season they had and managed to reach fourth place which is a great achievement for them.

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April 29, 2024, 07:53:42 PM
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When Inter have won, then Salernitana seems to be the first team to drop to Serie B. Udinese and Sassuolo seem to continue to fight to survive because their gap with 17th place is very thin. So they have a chance of survival, but it's heavy. It seems that Parma are strong candidates for promotion to Serie A, they may be accompanied by Como and Venezia. For the others, it seems that Milan, Juventus and Bologna will be with Inter to the UCL. It seems that Bologna became a surprise team to make it into the top 4.
Inter Milan really tried to maintain a consistent form till they were able to win the serie A title . It's obvious for Salernitana that they have been relegated they need to learn more when they go back to serie B so that when they have the opportunity to come to serie A again they will be more serious with matches. Between Sassuolo and Udinese, Udinese have more possibility of coming out from the relegation zone because they have 29 points whereas Sassuolo have 26 and Hellas Verona, Frosinone and Empoli have 31 points each of which any of them that loses a match and Udinese wins, automatically Udinese will be out of relegation.

Parma is likely to be promoted considering the fact that they are 5 points above Como who occupy the second position in the league table and it's just about 3 matches left but as for Como their promotion may not be certain because Venezia might come out second if Como drops points before the end of the season because Como has 68 points why Venezia has 67 points just a point difference and Venezia scores more goals than Como although they also concedes a lot of goals but if a team can score then possibility of winning will be there.
About the Four teams you predicted to make it to the UEFA Champions league next season, it will work according to your predictions because all of them will want to utilize their opportunity well and for club like Bologna they will do everything necessary to have a Champions league experience next season.

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April 29, 2024, 09:05:05 PM
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To be fair Roma got a tie as well so Bologna getting a tie wasn't really a big deal for them. If Roma won then they would be just within one game and that could be a risk but because Roma managed to get only a tie as well we end up with basically nothing serious there. I am sure that Bologna will manage to keep their fourth place, which I think was unexpected at the start of the season if you asked anyone.

In fact, if you switched 9th place Napoli with 4th place Bologna and just showed people at the start of the season, people would say that makes sense. But as we know now, Napoli had a terrible terrible season coming off a title, which is a big shocker and Bologna had a season unlike any season they had and managed to reach fourth place which is a great achievement for them.

You say "to be fair". There are two things to consider about Roma: they have been doing amazing recently ever since Mourinho was gone and De Rossi took over. It will always be hard to dismiss Mourinho because he has had so much success as a coach, but being honest about Mourinho is part of the game. He failed big time and I am ok with saying that he sucked in the last few years.

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April 29, 2024, 09:14:16 PM
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Players applauding the opponent winning the league is something common in football nowadays. Almost all professional football leagues in the world have this gesture. Unwanted incidents just sometime happen in the intense games between big rivals in important matches, Those never happen in a meaningless game like Torino vs Inter.

This game was played flawlessly because the result of the game won't mean anything for both team, therefore the players played freely without any pressure to win the game. Maybe each players had interest in scoring goal because it would be a positive thing for their statistisc history, which can be a good mark for their career.
Torino is not a match for Inter Milan this season so I was not surprised when I saw the results of their match, especially since it happened at Inter Milan's home ground, which at this time actually no longer needs to win the match because Inter is already the champion team this season. But the victory will still not be in vain because it can also reflect that Inter Milan is truly strong and serious in building its performance this season from the start to the end of the season.

It was foreseeable that Inter would win against Torino in this match, even if they had fielded the reserve team they would have won because everything was ready to party, given the recent Scudetto win. I'm not saying it was a combination match, but Torino had nothing more to ask of this championship and Inter were already champions of Italy. They practically did a catwalk. To be applauded instead was the pasillo de Honor by the Torino club who welcomed the Inter players as they entered the field

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April 29, 2024, 09:16:30 PM
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It seems to me that Atalanta is already a favorite in the fight for 5th place (and a ticket to the Champions League) since they have a game in hand (although the opponent is not so simple - Fiorentina) and the remaining games are quite easy: Salernitana, Lecce, Torino. For Roma everything looks more complicated: Juvents, Genoa, Empoli. It seems to me that Atalanta will lose points in the game with Fiorentina, and Roma in the game with Juventus, and if Roma does not win against Atalanta in the head-to-head match, it will end the season in 6th place.
Atalanta does have a postponed match which could allow them to gain some additional points and shift Roma from their current position. But this will happen if Atalanta can use all the remaining matches this season to win for them. But if Atalanta fails even in one match then I think AS Roma will still have the advantage of being in their current ranking, namely 5th. But the problem is that Roma also cannot lose in the remaining matches this season. And this is the most difficult task for Rome. Because that means Roma also have to beat Juventus and Atalanta. It will be very interesting and quite exciting to see who ultimately secures a ticket to the European League. for UCL tickets, I think the teams currently ranked in the top 4 will remain the same until the end.

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It's true, Parma was declared bankrupt, at that time Parma tried to survive without an owner for several seasons. I didn't really follow Parma news/updates afterwards, but AFAIK, it is owned by a company from the United States. Returning to Serie A after falling to Serie D when it went bankrupt, i think this is amazing achievement. After all, Parma is a club that has a sweet history in the past and become one of the big four in Serie A. Lucky for them can survive few years without owner.

At that time Parma was saved by the Krause group.

Parma is a very strong team in series B, they are predicted to return to league 1 because their performance is so impressive.

Fiorentina won 5-1 against Sassuolo, Gonzalez scored 2 goals in this match, Fiorentian is getting stronger in 8th position while Sassuolo remains in the relegation zone.



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April 29, 2024, 09:44:55 PM
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Atalanta does have a postponed match which could allow them to gain some additional points and shift Roma from their current position. But this will happen if Atalanta can use all the remaining matches this season to win for them.

Atalanta could put Roma aside and take their spot but this will not happen if Roma could continue winning although Atalanta have the advantage to overtake them since Atalanta aren't that consisting and easily lose points.
There will be also a game between Roma and Atalanta in Bergamo and that match will have a huge impact if both teams will remain close to each other.

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April 29, 2024, 10:09:34 PM
 #73720

Atalanta could put Roma aside and take their spot but this will not happen if Roma could continue winning although Atalanta have the advantage to overtake them since Atalanta aren't that consisting and easily lose points.
There will be also a game between Roma and Atalanta in Bergamo and that match will have a huge impact if both teams will remain close to each other.
AS Roma are not in form but they seem promising outside their domestic Serie A league. Daniele De Rossi will always deliver his best performance, keen on improvement towards his players and their style of performing on the pitch. Atalanta are inform and facing AS Roma would be a little bit headache for Nerazzurri headcoach, Gian Piero Gasperini. He's effortlessly making huge plans to extend his glorious momentum with his current team. It have never been easy for them but they keep pushing for brilliant performance against opponents.



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