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August 23, 2024, 09:54:02 AM
Last edit: August 23, 2024, 11:52:31 AM by Hirose UK
 #79181

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Arsenal's rumored €100 million offer is nothing to sneeze at. Napoli could use that money to rebuild and strengthen the squad. Holding onto Osimhen while he's mentally checked out is just gonna lead to more losses and a whole lot of headaches. Sometimes, the best deals are the ones you make, not the ones you avoid. Napoli needs to be smart about this, and right now, the smart move is to let Osimhen go. Its time to cut their losses and move on.
Actually, Osimhen is not in bad mental condition, he is still one of the great strikers for now and the decline in performance may be due to the injury he experienced and also Napoli support which is not really like two season ago when they won the Scudetto.
Just look after the recovery period from the injury he experienced, he still shows that he is sharp striker, Osimhen gave several goal for Napoli and it is not the right statement to say that his current condition is bad.
If he were player with bad condition, maybe Arsenal would not want to make big enough offer, besides Chelsea would not be able to try hard to still have the desire to bring in Osimhen.
I think all of that is just an exaggerated statement.

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August 23, 2024, 10:11:40 AM
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Ademola Lookman has been rumoured to be signed by a top team this summer. PSG and Liverpool are said to be interested. Is this why he didn't play on the first week of the season?  Huh

He is one of the most valuable players for Atalanta at the moment. His last season performance was really decent. But especially his amazing effort in the Europa League finale has drawn the attention to himself. Atalanta can consider selling him actually I think. While he is on fire, they can make quite much money on this sale. There are many other good strikers in the squad already. You have seen the way they started the season without him.  Smiley

The latest news I have heard regarding Ademola Lookman is the rumour that Arsenal are interested in this player as you said his performance last season attracted the attention of many elite clubs and reportedly Atalanta is ready to release this player for a price of around 50 million well this is more ideal than having to pay 100 million to get Osimhen, it's just that so far there has been no official confirmation or maybe we will hear the news at the end of the transfer window.

Atalanta would be a lucky club if they managed to let him go for 50 million because in 2022 Atalanta only spent around 10 million to bring him in imagine they recorded a profit of 40 million in 2 years Cheesy moreover, Atalanta is also one of the clubs that needs fresh funds so I wouldn't be surprised if this plan actually happens.

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August 23, 2024, 10:23:12 AM
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Ademola Lookman has been rumoured to be signed by a top team this summer. PSG and Liverpool are said to be interested. Is this why he didn't play on the first week of the season?  Huh

He is one of the most valuable players for Atalanta at the moment. His last season performance was really decent. But especially his amazing effort in the Europa League finale has drawn the attention to himself. Atalanta can consider selling him actually I think. While he is on fire, they can make quite much money on this sale. There are many other good strikers in the squad already. You have seen the way they started the season without him.  Smiley
It is very surprising how a goal machine has to leave and it seems that this information is quite accurate where Ademola Lookman will not be seen with Atalanta this season. Plettigoal said that the two teams competing to get him are PSG and Arsenal, for Liverpool it seems that it is not on his radar.

To be clear, PSG and Ademola Lookman have reached a verbal agreement and now all that remains is to complete the negotiation of the fee that will be spent by PSG to bring him in. Of course, Atalanta will be a little big-headed considering that Ademola Lookman is an important striker and it is not impossible that Atalanta will set an exorbitant fee to smooth this transfer. Arsenal have not moved fully and they are waiting for the right moment to launch their strategy.

Source: https://twitter.com/Plettigoal/status/1826720503635099735
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August 23, 2024, 10:58:14 AM
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Arsenal's rumored €100 million offer is nothing to sneeze at. Napoli could use that money to rebuild and strengthen the squad. Holding onto Osimhen while he's mentally checked out is just gonna lead to more losses and a whole lot of headaches. Sometimes, the best deals are the ones you make, not the ones you avoid. Napoli needs to be smart about this, and right now, the smart move is to let Osimhen go. Its time to cut their losses and move on.
Actually, Osimhen is not in bad mental condition, he is still one of the great strikers for now and the decline in performance may be due to the injury he experienced and also Napoli support which is not really like two season ago when they won the Scudetto.
Just look after the recovery period from the injury he experienced, he still shows that he is sharp striker, Osimhen gave several goal for Napoli and it is not the right statement to say that his current condition is bad.
If he were player with bad condition, maybe Arsenal would not want to make big enough offer, besides Chelsea would not be able to try hard to still have the desire to bring in Osimhen.
I think all of that is just an exaggerated statement.
Previously Chelsea and PSG had refused to meet the price request from Napoli who wanted to sell Osimhen for more than 100 million and in the end it actually left Osimhen fate hanging in the balance without any clarity about the future, we admit that Osimhen is a great striker and have a high scoring instinct but Napoli should realize that currently not many clubs are interested in bringing in Osimhen, so far we only keep hearing about 3 teams that are interested in Osimhen, namely PSG, Chelsea and Arsenal, so Napoli should be smart to making decisions now, because if they make the wrong move It is certain that they will experience big losses in the future.

Osimhen has stated that he wants to leave and Napoli also need money to get Lukaku or another striker at this time, so if Osimhen fails to leave then their not only will suffer financially but their squad will also suffer because napoli doesn't have a main striker at the moment, although Osimhen is still a Napoli player, but I think maybe he would prefer not to play in Conte squad because Conte has previously said that they don't need Osimhen and is leaning towards hoping Lukaku will be the main striker this season, even if maybe he will play again for Napoli, of course he will only be forced to and will not bring out his best abilities like in previous seasons.

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August 23, 2024, 11:00:06 AM
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It is very surprising how a goal machine has to leave and it seems that this information is quite accurate where Ademola Lookman will not be seen with Atalanta this season.
Lookman scored three goals for Atalanta in a final match in Europa League last season and it's impressive but in general he is not a goal machine for them last season. You can see his stats.

He scored 17 goals for Atalanta last season, with 11 goals after 31 matches in Serie A, 5 goals in 11 matches in Europa League includes his hat trick in the final match, and 1 goal in 3 matches in Coppa Italy.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/ademola-lookman/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/406040

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To be clear, PSG and Ademola Lookman have reached a verbal agreement and now all that remains is to complete the negotiation of the fee that will be spent by PSG to bring him in. Of course, Atalanta will be a little big-headed considering that Ademola Lookman is an important striker and it is not impossible that Atalanta will set an exorbitant fee to smooth this transfer. Arsenal have not moved fully and they are waiting for the right moment to launch their strategy.
PSG really want to find a replacement for Mbappe and they fail to buy Osimhen from Napoli. Meanwhile Lookman will be their alternative replacement for Mbappe and if their negotiation with Napoli fails.

Lookman is not able to score many goals like Osimhen and Mbappe but he can provide many things for attacking system of PSG. He will not create internal problems because of his high ego like Mbappe. This transfer if completed, will be another transfer that marks a strategic change in PSG on transfer market.

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August 23, 2024, 11:21:13 AM
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To be clear, PSG and Ademola Lookman have reached a verbal agreement and now all that remains is to complete the negotiation of the fee that will be spent by PSG to bring him in. Of course, Atalanta will be a little big-headed considering that Ademola Lookman is an important striker and it is not impossible that Atalanta will set an exorbitant fee to smooth this transfer. Arsenal have not moved fully and they are waiting for the right moment to launch their strategy.

Source: https://twitter.com/Plettigoal/status/1826720503635099735
PSG must immediately complete the recruitment of this player officially because he can be quite an important figure and can make a real contribution on the field. I like Lookman style of play, he can always be the difference between other Atalanta players, one of the creative attackers so far at Atalanta. In terms of price, Atalanta must certainly set a little higher, considering that they also need to find another replacement that is comparable if they want to stay competitive in Serie A this season. With a record of 23/24 season at Atalanta he contributed 11 goals which means losing Lookman means there is no guarantee that Atalanta can reach the same position at the end of the season.

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In my opinion, there is no right word with the price that Napoli wants, that's why Napoli has not released Osimhen to the club he is interested in. Well, that's the problem with the Osimhen transfer case at this time, the complicated requirements are an obstacle to Osimhen's development this season, if he continues to be held back by Napoli, then most likely there will be no significant development and of course he will continue to get bad results in every match, of course not only that, this will even hinder Napoli's game this season with the problems of Osimhen and the management.
Napoli must be able to make decisions for their own good and also for Osimhen's good if Napoli wants to improve their own team this season. Because when there is a problem within the team, of course the results that the team will get will not be optimal throughout the season because the team still needs to solve the problem so that there are more satisfying results at the end of the season. So there is no other choice but to release Osimhen at a more reasonable price and also buy other players whose prices are also more logical for Napoli itself to accept.

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* Parma - AC Milan => AC Milan
 * Inter Milan - Lecce => Inter Milan
 * Fiorentina - Venezia => Fiorentina
 * AS Roma - Empoli => AS Roma
 * Napoli - Bologna => Napoli
 * Hellas Verona - Juventus => Juventus

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and we start again with the championship and with my usual hot bets, here is the first of this season

And here's my parlay.



The only different bet from us is on Napoli vs Bologna's bet. You seem to take the low risk by betting on Napoli. I was thinking the same, and i almost bet on Napoli to win its home game against Bologna. But, their last game made me change my bet to BTTS(Bologna or Draw). But i was not putting Roma vs Empoli on parlay cuz roma's gameplay is not really convincing me to pick it, and I pass it.

Juventus, Inter, and Fiorentina are gonna have ez games against their opponents in the 2nd week of Serie a, but AC Milan is gonna struggle to beat Parma.

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August 23, 2024, 01:45:34 PM
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Napoli must be able to make decisions for their own good and also for Osimhen's good if Napoli wants to improve their own team this season. Because when there is a problem within the team, of course the results that the team will get will not be optimal throughout the season because the team still needs to solve the problem so that there are more satisfying results at the end of the season. So there is no other choice but to release Osimhen at a more reasonable price and also buy other players whose prices are also more logical for Napoli itself to accept.
Antonio Conte knows what needs to be done to improve his squad, he really wants Lukaku in his squad and Napoli are trying to sign him. Selling Osimhen would benefit Napoli and Chelsea are desperate for him, Napoli could get Lukaku plus some cash, while Chelsea could ease the burden as Lukaku is not in Enzo Maresca plans. The heavy defeat in the first game made Conte debut with Napoli less than impressive, of course he will try to organize his squad to improve the quality in the next match.

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August 23, 2024, 01:56:05 PM
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Since Motta joined Juventus and he took the place of Allegri in this team he made some changes in the team and he tried to make the improvements by these changes however one change he made was interesting and wried because he decided to stop working with Federico Chiesa while he was one the good players in this team and he was effective enough to Juventus but Federico Chiesa had to leave and Motta is about to hire Nicolás González the current player of Fiorentina to fill the pacle of Chiesa in this team.



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August 23, 2024, 02:00:02 PM
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Napoli must be able to make decisions for their own good and also for Osimhen's good if Napoli wants to improve their own team this season. Because when there is a problem within the team, of course the results that the team will get will not be optimal throughout the season because the team still needs to solve the problem so that there are more satisfying results at the end of the season. So there is no other choice but to release Osimhen at a more reasonable price and also buy other players whose prices are also more logical for Napoli itself to accept.

Napoli should make a decision fast because whatever decision they make now might be the product of the result they will get, and it's not looking as if Napoli does not want to let Victor Osimhen go, and I don't blame them. They have to consider the options to know exactly the kind of decision they are going to make because they let letting Osimhen go and they don't have another option It might just lead them to a very dangerous spot which might affect their performance throughout the season.  I noticed that Chelsea also have there eyes on Victor and I'm very sure that if Napoli is supposed to sell Victor to Chelsea, they are going to sell on a very high amount of money that might even discourage Chelsea from buying Victor so they need to finalize their decision. They are making they should make it fast to avoid more complications, when the season is ongoing, and I thought Napoli was bringing in Lukaku in replacement of Victor in my own suggestion whatever decision they will make they should make it early

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August 23, 2024, 02:59:16 PM
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Napoli must be able to make decisions for their own good and also for Osimhen's good if Napoli wants to improve their own team this season. Because when there is a problem within the team, of course the results that the team will get will not be optimal throughout the season because the team still needs to solve the problem so that there are more satisfying results at the end of the season. So there is no other choice but to release Osimhen at a more reasonable price and also buy other players whose prices are also more logical for Napoli itself to accept.
Antonio Conte knows what needs to be done to improve his squad, he really wants Lukaku in his squad and Napoli are trying to sign him. Selling Osimhen would benefit Napoli and Chelsea are desperate for him, Napoli could get Lukaku plus some cash, while Chelsea could ease the burden as Lukaku is not in Enzo Maresca plans. The heavy defeat in the first game made Conte debut with Napoli less than impressive, of course he will try to organize his squad to improve the quality in the next match.

The talk about Napoli is getting bigger after they failed in the first match because they had to lose to Verona with a fairly big score too. That makes Napoli have to work even harder to get their first point, at least in the second week. Now they are trying to bring in a player they have been eyeing for a long time, namely Lukaku. From the latest news they have heard, they have submitted another proposal to Chelsea to get Lukaku. They want to be quick in completing the deal. And maybe this time they will succeed in getting him.

Since Motta joined Juventus and he took the place of Allegri in this team he made some changes in the team and he tried to make the improvements by these changes however one change he made was interesting and wried because he decided to stop working with Federico Chiesa while he was one the good players in this team and he was effective enough to Juventus but Federico Chiesa had to leave and Motta is about to hire Nicolás González the current player of Fiorentina to fill the pacle of Chiesa in this team.



Each coach has criteria for players that he will include in the squad, so changes like this will also be followed by some players who will not be part of the squad. Some people regret this, but some others will support this kind of action. But the most important thing is that the player who will replace the previous player can play well, I think that's what I want to see. In addition, when the player who is brought in cannot replace his role well, then be prepared for the coach to receive all criticism because he will be considered to have failed to see the player's potential. There will be risks behind all decisions taken.

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August 23, 2024, 03:10:58 PM
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Antonio Conte knows what needs to be done to improve his squad, he really wants Lukaku in his squad and Napoli are trying to sign him. Selling Osimhen would benefit Napoli and Chelsea are desperate for him, Napoli could get Lukaku plus some cash, while Chelsea could ease the burden as Lukaku is not in Enzo Maresca plans. The heavy defeat in the first game made Conte debut with Napoli less than impressive, of course he will try to organize his squad to improve the quality in the next match.

It is because of such a difficult start that there are doubts that Conte knows what to do to make Napoli better. And they lost not to some strong team, but to a potential mid-table team in the league, and the team looked somehow helpless. Could Osimhen's absence really have such an impact on the team's attack, he is not the only striker, there is also Kvaratskhelia. Perhaps Lukaku is not worse than Osimhen, and for Conte he is even better, but he is not in the team and with such a start, Conte may be limited with new transfers.

 
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August 23, 2024, 03:21:06 PM
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Conte is still the best of several coaches in Serie A, but it seems that here he made a mistake by accepting Napoli's offer which did not fulfill his desire to make this club glorious again, Conte had asked for Lukaku a few months ago until now there has been no official contract to bring Lukaku, this is a difficult thing for him in Napoli, but I will not doubt if Napoli fulfills what he wants, it feels like they can still reach the top four, Conte is a typical coach who is hungry for trophies and he certainly wants to help Napoli but I don't think Napoli wants to help Conte.

Thus there is no other way but to play the existing players and the embarrassing defeat in the first half I think Napoli management is sensitive to losing three early points, because the lack of integrity in the front line makes them unable to do anything and they lose early points, now they must immediately end Lukaku to join in order to sharpen their attack line in scoring goals but if not this is difficult for Conte with Napoli.

Antonio Conte is certainly one of the best coaches around, of those who have won. However, Jose Mourinho was also like him and now he is struggling a little to make his strategy work. Many have understood his schemes and play in a way that invalidates his playing style. It could happen to him too, we'll see if he can do well with Napoli.

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August 23, 2024, 03:29:57 PM
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And here's my parlay.



The only different bet from us is on Napoli vs Bologna's bet. You seem to take the low risk by betting on Napoli. I was thinking the same, and i almost bet on Napoli to win its home game against Bologna. But, their last game made me change my bet to BTTS(Bologna or Draw). But i was not putting Roma vs Empoli on parlay cuz roma's gameplay is not really convincing me to pick it, and I pass it.

Juventus, Inter, and Fiorentina are gonna have ez games against their opponents in the 2nd week of Serie a, but AC Milan is gonna struggle to beat Parma.
Wait a minute, it seems like your choice is not BTTS but double chance. And it seems like you put Roma vs Empoli in your parlay slip.

Everyone has their own analysis but I just want to say a little about my analysis that betting on BTTS (draw or Bologna) seems too risky because this is the second match that could be a trap. I mean many are still confused about the results of these two teams and they have to take risks on the under or over options to avoid uncertain results. Under 2.25 with odds @2.07 is the best choice because for me these two teams will not score big.
And for the Roma vs Empoli match, I think I prefer to bet on Roma victory -1.25 with odds @2.07 because I am sure Empoli will not score in that match.

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August 23, 2024, 03:33:40 PM
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I initially thought Napoli would continue to retain Victor Oshimen and had no intention of selling him when they found out Napoli extended his contract and raised his salary. I thought it was solely so that Oshimen could continue to feel at home in Napoli. But for some reason, the club suddenly changed its plans and wanted to immediately sell this player at a high price to a top club so that they could reap huge profits even though this player is a very valuable asset. Napoli seemed to forget Oshimen's previous sacrifices that led Napoli to win the Serie A title. Even though if Oshimen stayed at Napoli, it would also be good for the club because he would still contribute well, his abilities are still quite good on the front line.

Although Osimhen is an asset for Napoli, I think he will develop better when he is in another club. It doesn't mean Napoli is not good, he has shown how Napoli can win Serie A. Oshimen is very productive. And even though this season is not so good for him and the team. He still made extraordinary achievements for the team.
I think the contract extension given to Oshimen only binds him so that he does not leave the club for free. Now Napoli has a very good chance to get benefits and strengthen the club's finances.
If their target is not to be the champion this season, I think it doesn't matter with the current team. They are still able to compete in the middle of the Serie A standings. I don't expect much for Napoli to be able to compete at the top of the standings.

Osimhen's departure from Napoli is not so about the club, but the player himself. I think Osimhen wants out, and Napoli have no option but to look for a good fee for a striker as good as Osimhen. Conte would have loved to keep such an amazing striker, but when a player wants to go, you have to let them go.

There are murmurs that Lukaku is joining Napoli, and it's a fact that Lukaku is great at the Serie A. Napoli does not look that strong as of right now, because I really don't see that level of determination and guts from Antonio Conte. I think they are happy with a UCL spot, and that's it. If Napoli wants to win the league, they have a long way to go,  and that starts with proper management, strengthening the squad a bit more with the money that they get from selling Osimhen.

If Napoli does not sort things out soon, they are in trouble. Serious problems are gonna occur, and since the other teams are getting better with Juve, both Milans, Napoli need to fix things ASAP.

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Since Motta joined Juventus and he took the place of Allegri in this team he made some changes in the team and he tried to make the improvements by these changes however one change he made was interesting and wried because he decided to stop working with Federico Chiesa while he was one the good players in this team and he was effective enough to Juventus but Federico Chiesa had to leave and Motta is about to hire Nicolás González the current player of Fiorentina to fill the pacle of Chiesa in this team.



Under Juventus' new coaching, there have been quite clear changes in the composition of the Juventus squad and even great players like Federico Chiesa are not included in Thiago Motta's plans. So Juventus is trying to let him go. And currently Barcelona is the club closest to getting Federico Chiesa's signature. I might prefer to say that Federico Chiesa would actually turn out to be very lucky if he managed to go to Barcelona after he was dumped from Juventus.

at first I thought that what Thiago motta was doing wouldn't be good enough. Moreover, they also looked quite bad in pre-season. Where Juventus did not win even once in the pre-season match. But it was quite surprising at the start of this season in the first week that Juventus were able to play very strongly and beat Como with a big score of 3-0. So I started to believe that what Motta was doing was right.

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August 23, 2024, 03:53:21 PM
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Antonio Conte knows what needs to be done to improve his squad, he really wants Lukaku in his squad and Napoli are trying to sign him. Selling Osimhen would benefit Napoli and Chelsea are desperate for him, Napoli could get Lukaku plus some cash, while Chelsea could ease the burden as Lukaku is not in Enzo Maresca plans. The heavy defeat in the first game made Conte debut with Napoli less than impressive, of course he will try to organize his squad to improve the quality in the next match.

It is because of such a difficult start that there are doubts that Conte knows what to do to make Napoli better. And they lost not to some strong team, but to a potential mid-table team in the league, and the team looked somehow helpless. Could Osimhen's absence really have such an impact on the team's attack, he is not the only striker, there is also Kvaratskhelia. Perhaps Lukaku is not worse than Osimhen, and for Conte he is even better, but he is not in the team and with such a start, Conte may be limited with new transfers.

I believe, Lukaku is not a solution to make Napoli better because anyway, if Lukaku still has a good performance too then I am sure, Enzo Maresca will include Lukaku in the Chelsea squad this season. But anyway, the fact that Enzo Maresca did not include Lukaku means that Lukaku is also not Enzo Maresca plan in the current Chelsea squad.

Indeed, this is the same thing that happened to Osimhen at Napoli but I am sure, there are different reasons for not including Osimhen in the current Napoli squad. Because I am sure, Conte did this so that Napoli bought Lukaku but anyway, the fact is that Napoli also stated that they would buy Lukaku if Osimhen was also sold first. But unfortunately, because of the high price tag, it makes it difficult for Napoli to reach an agreement with any team to sell Osimhen.

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August 23, 2024, 03:54:28 PM
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Antonio Conte is certainly one of the best coaches around, of those who have won. However, Jose Mourinho was also like him and now he is struggling a little to make his strategy work. Many have understood his schemes and play in a way that invalidates his playing style. It could happen to him too, we'll see if he can do well with Napoli.
If not supported by a qualified squad or players, I think all coaches will also have difficulty building a team, as is the case with Antonio Conte now.
Napoli has been quite depressed last season, so don't expect too much from Antonio Conte to immediately be able to develop Napoli's performance in his first season. I think a quality coach like Antonio Conte also needs time and support to be able to build Napoli slowly.
So let's just wait for Antonio Conte to go through that process and fix all the problems that exist and that certainly won't happen this season or in the near future.
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It is very surprising how a goal machine has to leave and it seems that this information is quite accurate where Ademola Lookman will not be seen with Atalanta this season. Plettigoal said that the two teams competing to get him are PSG and Arsenal, for Liverpool it seems that it is not on his radar.

This will be a difficult situation for Atalanta because inevitably if Lookman does leave then they must be prepared to look for other options to cover an attacking line that will definitely lose its productivity in terms of goals because now Scammacca is injured and Lookman wants to leave.
If there was still a long time to go for the transfer season then maybe it would be better but the problem is that we are now at the end where there is only 1 week left until the transfer season closes for this summer.

Koopmeiners' troubles are not over for Atalanta now they have to deal with the Lookman problem which is likely to infuriate Gasperini even more. With the conditions that occur now, especially with several core players leaving and injuries, it will be very difficult for Atalanta to navigate the season in the Champions League and Serie A simultaneously.

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