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September 18, 2024, 03:06:46 PM
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We got one coach sacked before the next week.
It is De Rossi, it has been removed and Juric will take his spot.
After a terrible start of the season they could have done nothing else.
Maybe was a better move changing him before the summer.
It only took 4 matches for AS Roma to fire their coach, De Rossi. They were not satisfied with what De Rossi showed in those 4 matches, so they decided to fire him sooner. Maybe they thought of responding sooner before things got worse, but they also had a risk because their new coach might not be better than De Rossi. However, with better hopes, they decided all that. De Rossi was quite promising at first, but who knows what happened at the beginning of this season he couldn't give what AS Roma expected, even worse than that. On the other hand, AS Roma also didn't want their team to continue to get negative results like that, because they also definitely wanted to compete at the top to win the title, or at least they could finish in a ranking that could take them to the Champions League next season.

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September 18, 2024, 03:34:09 PM
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Finally AS Roma chose to fire De Rossi after failing to bring victory in the first 4 matches, clearly this is a bad start and it seems AS Roma returned to their original plan. Because from the beginning De Rossi was appointed to be a temporary coach until the end of the season, but when he showed a progressive game AS Roma gave him a longer chance, and when he failed at the beginning of the season AS Roma did not hesitate to return to their original plan. De Rossi is one of the coaches who I think has the skills, it's just that he still has to gain a lot of experience. I think joining the Saudi Pro League team is not wrong, because he can learn a lot there. And when he succeeds in improving his skills I'm sure there will be many European teams who want to bring him in.
It is still too early and I think it is a loss for AS Roma to fire De Rossi because the new coach will have difficulty handling this team when the competition is already underway and the decision to fire a coach at the beginning of the season like this I think is not wise, AS Roma should give De Rossi time to adapt again to this team because in the previous season De Rossi has shown that he has good qualities as a coach so that he can develop the performance of the Roma team last season when he replaced Jose Mourinho.
I think they have giving him time but they see no change which is why they have to take this hard decision, checking from the beginning of the season, during the pre-season matches they never tried to be strong team for once, you saying it too early I think you are making a mistake, to me I gave him grace but he didn't bring out what they are expecting, Jose Mourinho actually tried but he faced the same thing and when De Rossi came him the game started changing, even I testified the As Roma have found a good replacement until now that we discovered it was all Jose Mourinho performance with the players he put in place, I will say from the beginning De Rossi wasn't fit to coach Roma.

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September 18, 2024, 03:41:52 PM
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We got one coach sacked before the next week.
It is De Rossi, it has been removed and Juric will take his spot.
After a terrible start of the season they could have done nothing else.
Maybe was a better move changing him before the summer.
It only took 4 matches for AS Roma to fire their coach, De Rossi. They were not satisfied with what De Rossi showed in those 4 matches, so they decided to fire him sooner. Maybe they thought of responding sooner before things got worse, but they also had a risk because their new coach might not be better than De Rossi. However, with better hopes, they decided all that. De Rossi was quite promising at first, but who knows what happened at the beginning of this season he couldn't give what AS Roma expected, even worse than that. On the other hand, AS Roma also didn't want their team to continue to get negative results like that, because they also definitely wanted to compete at the top to win the title, or at least they could finish in a ranking that could take them to the Champions League next season.
The results achieved by Roma this season in Serie A since the beginning of the season, 0 wins, 3 draws and 1 defeat, perhaps because the negative results in the last four matches made Roma Management annoyed and immediately pressured De Rossi since the beginning of the season. Previously, Roma's top brass were very satisfied with De Rossi performance after bringing the club to 7th position after 8 months of being appointed as coach, but after officially signing a 3-year contract, he was unable to show impressive performance even though he had received some new ammunition in the transfer market.
Now Ivan Juric will fill the vacant position of Roma Coach after De Rossi dismissal, can he lift Roma performance as expected by management? well, we'll see.

 
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September 18, 2024, 03:42:24 PM
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Fresh news here. De Rossi has officially got sacked by Roma after a poor start...



Honestly I'm very surprised with that. I mean it was only the beginning of the season. He wasn't given enough time to see whether he makes progress. I remember how long Arsenal kept patient with Arteta and how it paid out later on. What a pity...  Sad

With whom do you think his seat will be filled?  Huh  For now nobody comes to my mind honestly as I was following the players and managers closer in the latest transfer window. I hope Roma doesn't make a bad choice.

What's surprising about that if they sacked Mourinho, who brought them the title plus the Europa League final (where Roma were robbed)? Whoever they take to replace Rossi, Roma won't rise above what Mourinho did. It seems the management wants some incredible miracles with the usual level of investment. It will be nice to see them fail.

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September 18, 2024, 03:49:07 PM
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News from a few minutes ago, De Rossi sacked by Roma management.
The management judged the results to be truly disappointing for the first matches and given the nature of the investments and the fear of not entering the Champions League, they decided to sack the coach.
Very bad.

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September 18, 2024, 03:53:30 PM
 #80586

I think Roma did an injustice to the coach. Daniele De Rossi was the main element that brought Roma to this level with the success he achieved last year. However, after a few unsuccessful results this year, I think it is the biggest injustice to him to send him off the team. I don't think it is a decision taken together with the management. He probably had some disagreements with the management and the management cancelled his contract. Now we will see who will be the coach of Roma.

There are some teams that are always ungrateful to their coaches, others that don't give them much importance and leave their coaches there in the team and I really don't understand it, for me there is a clear example in the PL in a team, here in Serie A the opposite happens, it seems to me that Roma already had this planned and so they gave the final blow in that way, which didn't seem right to me, but let's make another reminder, they left the great Mourinho for quite a long time and so he didn't give very good results, however with De Rossi things were different, it's strange, but the management must have its good Reasons.


OFFICIAL: Roma have sacked Daniele De Rossi



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AS Roma has officially announced the decision to part ways with Daniele De Rossi, relieving him of his role as head coach of the First Team. The club’s statement emphasized that this decision was made in the best interest of the team, allowing them to quickly realign with their goals early in the season.

The announcement read: “AS Roma announces that it has relieved Daniele De Rossi of his role as head coach of the First Team. The Club’s decision is adopted in the interest of the team, in order to be able to promptly resume the desired path, at a time when the season is still at its beginning. To Daniele, who will always be at home in the Giallorossi Club, a heartfelt thank you for the work carried out in recent months with passion and dedication. Communications on the team’s technical guidance will follow.”

Source:https://www.footitalia.com/official-roma-have-sacked-daniele-de-rossi/

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September 18, 2024, 04:12:42 PM
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It is still too early and I think it is a loss for AS Roma to fire De Rossi because the new coach will have difficulty handling this team when the competition is already underway and the decision to fire a coach at the beginning of the season like this I think is not wise, AS Roma should give De Rossi time to adapt again to this team because in the previous season De Rossi has shown that he has good qualities as a coach so that he can develop the performance of the Roma team last season when he replaced Jose Mourinho.
I think they have giving him time but they see no change which is why they have to take this hard decision, checking from the beginning of the season, during the pre-season matches they never tried to be strong team for once, you saying it too early I think you are making a mistake, to me I gave him grace but he didn't bring out what they are expecting, Jose Mourinho actually tried but he faced the same thing and when De Rossi came him the game started changing, even I testified the As Roma have found a good replacement until now that we discovered it was all Jose Mourinho performance with the players he put in place, I will say from the beginning De Rossi wasn't fit to coach Roma.
De Rossi raised hopes, but at the same time he brought disappointment at the beginning of the season which is a very crucial time for a coach. It should also be remembered that the management of AS Roma gave him more opportunities after previously he was only planned until the end of the season.

Instead of making the management believe in him more, De Rossi actually started very badly. It may be true that he has only lost once in Serie A and the rest have drawn, but the calculation states that AS Roma has lost 9 points from the 4 matches they have played this season. That is what the management considered to decide something unpleasant for the coach.

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September 18, 2024, 04:26:18 PM
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We got one coach sacked before the next week.
It is De Rossi, it has been removed and Juric will take his spot.
After a terrible start of the season they could have done nothing else.
Maybe was a better move changing him before the summer.
It only took 4 matches for AS Roma to fire their coach, De Rossi. They were not satisfied with what De Rossi showed in those 4 matches, so they decided to fire him sooner. Maybe they thought of responding sooner before things got worse, but they also had a risk because their new coach might not be better than De Rossi. However, with better hopes, they decided all that. De Rossi was quite promising at first, but who knows what happened at the beginning of this season he couldn't give what AS Roma expected, even worse than that. On the other hand, AS Roma also didn't want their team to continue to get negative results like that, because they also definitely wanted to compete at the top to win the title, or at least they could finish in a ranking that could take them to the Champions League next season.
In football cricket if a team does not have a good coach then the team cannot play using new strategies due to which they find themselves weaker than other teams when they take to the field. Although Roma is not a very strong team like Milan, Inter but their previous coach De Rossi could have trained them a bit better.  But the current coach seems a little weaker than him. But maybe this coach will be able to dispel this idea because some of his moves look potential to me. In the Italian league, Roma managed to win the championship 3 times and runner-up 17 times due to some minor weaknesses that prevented them from winning the championship.  That's why they need a good coach











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September 18, 2024, 05:07:22 PM
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Fresh news here. De Rossi has officially got sacked by Roma after a poor start...



Honestly I'm very surprised with that. I mean it was only the beginning of the season. He wasn't given enough time to see whether he makes progress. I remember how long Arsenal kept patient with Arteta and how it paid out later on. What a pity...  Sad

With whom do you think his seat will be filled?  Huh  For now nobody comes to my mind honestly as I was following the players and managers closer in the latest transfer window. I hope Roma doesn't make a bad choice.

What's surprising about that if they sacked Mourinho, who brought them the title plus the Europa League final (where Roma were robbed)? Whoever they take to replace Rossi, Roma won't rise above what Mourinho did. It seems the management wants some incredible miracles with the usual level of investment. It will be nice to see them fail.
De Rossi dismissal is not something surprising given Roma current very poor performance in Serie A, last season Roma sacked Mourinho only for being involved in a conflict with the club owner and De Rossi who had little experience in coaching became Mourinho successor in coaching Roma, in the rest of the season it is indeed seen if Roma experienced an improvement in game performance and was slowly able to lift their position to a better level in Serie A,  So many of us actually compare him to Mourinho when they are finally his able to end the season in the Europa League zone, what we see at Roma this season actually indicates how De Rossi does not have the ability to build a team even though the management has brought many star players to the squad.

Each team has a different policy in judging a coach and there is clearly a significant difference in performance when Arteta and De Rossi first coached, Arteta did fail to bring Arsenal to the championship in his first season in charge but Arsenal showed an improvement in terms of playing and also their performance at that time, while De Rossi was only able to maximize the squad left by Mourinho but failed with the squad he is building today?
It is likely that the next coach to be sacked in Serie A is fonsesca and it seems inevitable after Milan failure in the Champions League match yesterday.

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September 18, 2024, 05:34:17 PM
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The game of the next week it will be crucial for his destiny.
Now Fonseca future depends on the result of the Derby Della Madonnina against Inter Milan.

Paulo Fonseca was already at a tough place about his job because AC Milan's start to the season in the Serie A hadn't been convincing at all. Now they also lost against Liverpool, that too was one of the 4 home games they are playing in the UCL Group Stage. After the game, the Milan fans were chanting, which meant "Show us some balls", which really expresses their disturbed situation with the club's performance.

If they can't bounce back in the following weeks, it will be trouble. You also gotta understand that they were playing, who are one of the best in the world right now. So you have to at least give Fonseca a few more UCL games, and if things don't turn to the good side, he might not stay as the Milan manager anymore. Time to gear up for the Rossoneri.


You know, they already eyeing Former Dortmund coach Edin Terzic, According to Milan News Zlatan Ibrahimovic already had a meeting with Edin's representatives. So yes if they lose the Derby on Sunday things might not go well for Fonseca.

Source: https://onefootball.com

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September 18, 2024, 05:39:18 PM
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The first of the last matches of the week was played between Parma and Udinese. After leading 2-0 at home in the first half, Parma couldn't prevent Udinese's 3 goals in the second half and we witnessed an unexpected point loss by losing 3-2 in a match in which they were ahead. Udinese's shots found the net in the second half and the goals came.
The other match is still ongoing
Thus, Udinese is now the leader of the Italian League. Their comeback against Parma was incredible. I have not seen such a good comeback in recent years. It seems like they deserve to be the leader right now. I think Udinese has been playing well for two years. If they can continue their form at the beginning of this year, they can take part in European cups next year. As for the championship, I can say that their chances are low, to be realistic.
Udinese have made a really good comeback with this win.Even though they are the leaders in Italy, I don't think they will be able to hang around for long.Of course, if you look at the teams they have played, they haven't faced any stronger team yet except Bologna and Lazio.Next week they travel to Roma and honestly, maybe everything will start there for them because the following week they face Inter.
After watching the Udinese vs Parma match, I have to say that Serie A is producing much more exciting games these days. Udinese is in first place after an incredible comeback against Parma. It's been a crazy start under new coach Kosta Runjaic in his debut Serie A season. They'll probably drop points later on, but for now, they’re successful making good results early. They have a strong squad, and the coach knows how to manage them. They need to keep this great form going as long as possible. They haven’t faced any big teams yet, but we can expect some unreal performances from this squad this season.
That was incredible performance by players of Udinese team. Udinese could win only 2 matches from 6 matches which they played against Parma football team.  Parma team is good team and they tried their best to win last match but unfortunately they could not win this match. Thauvin  was top performer of this match and he was match changer because he did crucial two goals for his team and without his goals ,his team could lose this match. He did his first goal at 68 minutes of the match and after this goal , score was level. Most of the people thought that ,match will be draw but we saw change in this match and he did last goal of the match at 77 minutes of the match.

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September 18, 2024, 07:42:31 PM
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The results achieved by Roma this season in Serie A since the beginning of the season, 0 wins, 3 draws and 1 defeat, perhaps because the negative results in the last four matches made Roma Management annoyed and immediately pressured De Rossi since the beginning of the season. Previously, Roma's top brass were very satisfied with De Rossi performance after bringing the club to 7th position after 8 months of being appointed as coach, but after officially signing a 3-year contract, he was unable to show impressive performance even though he had received some new ammunition in the transfer market.
Now Ivan Juric will fill the vacant position of Roma Coach after De Rossi dismissal, can he lift Roma performance as expected by management? well, we'll see.

So, obviously, when such a performance is seen, the management will be angry and the way you describe their performance, I am amazed.  A performance like this should not be allowed to come into the season as it is.  I was also impressed with Roma's performance but this season they have turned their good performances into bad performances and we have seen the results.  But anyway, they should improve their performance now and if they play with such performance in this season and next season, they will be in a weak situation.  But I don't want that because I was impressed by his performance.  But in spite of this, if their performance were to be like this, wrong words will come out for them and the management will also be angry.  They have been coached but they have stopped working hard which is why these results are there.











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September 18, 2024, 07:42:58 PM
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News from a few minutes ago, De Rossi sacked by Roma management.
The management judged the results to be truly disappointing for the first matches and given the nature of the investments and the fear of not entering the Champions League, they decided to sack the coach.
Very bad.

It was the right decision, because AS Roma needed quick good results and even though it took time to make the team better, but at least the coach must be able to provide good hope over time with results that are not disappointing like what AS Roma experienced at the beginning of this season. Because after all, AS Roma has also brought in new players who have good quality, but De Rossi has not managed to utilize or maximize the great potential of his players. Therefore, firing De Rossi sooner is the right choice because De Rossi has continued to decline since the end of the season and last season.

I think, at the beginning of this season De Rossi will be able to make AS Roma perform well like when De Rossi was appointed to replace Mourinho at that time last season. But unfortunately, De Rossi made AS Roma continue to get bad results and very much not according to expectations, so for me it is reasonable if De Rossi is fired, because previously I also always said AS Roma to look for a new manager and that really happened now.

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September 18, 2024, 07:49:04 PM
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After the big defeat of Milan in Champions League now Fornseca is at high risk.
Fans are already against the squad and their management for the bad cheap choice at the start of the season.
The crushing defeat against Liverpool made the management and fans furious with Fornseca performance, Milan's defense was very fragile which made it very easy for the opposing players to tear through their goal net. Rossoneri management must act quickly to resolve this issue to calm the fans' anger. Allegri is starting to be linked with Milan and is considered the right person to fix the defense area. Several other coaches are also still unemployed, Maurizio Sarri and Andrea Pirlo, maybe Management can appoint a Foreign Coach like Thomas Tuchel.
I mean not like it wasn't unexpected, we did see that Liverpool was better and Milan was worse and then Liverpool won, that seems like the most expected result and shouldn't really be that shocking to any of them. I am not saying that they are dealing with this the wrong way, sure if they dislike their manager then fire him early and get someone decent but that doesn't mean that it should be because of this game. They are not doing that great at the league as well and because of that maybe manager could be fired as well.

I know that it is taking some time right now for Fornseca looks like he is at a wobbly chair and could be fired at any given moment. He needs to go on a winning streak to keep his job, which is possible because if he is not fired until the next game and he goes on to win the next ten games or something then suddenly he has a very stable job and not getting fired at all. This is what he needs but I do not see how he can do it, looks like he is in trouble.

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September 18, 2024, 09:20:45 PM
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De Rossi became the fastest manager to be fired in Serie A this season, AS Roma poor performance in 4 matches made the management and club officials take a firm stance, in order to avoid the relegation zone. Ivan Juric has now been appointed as the new manager, and has started working to prepare his squad to host Udinese this weekend. On paper Ivan Juric has good momentum to record his first win, because he is acting as the host. However, on the other hand, Udinese is currently in impressive form, they have better confidence because they are at the top of the standings. Overall, this match will be troublesome for both teams.

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De Rossi raised hopes, but at the same time he brought disappointment at the beginning of the season which is a very crucial time for a coach. It should also be remembered that the management of AS Roma gave him more opportunities after previously he was only planned until the end of the season.

Good development in terms of performance last season does not seem to be going well at the beginning of this season but it does not mean that this is the end for De Rosi.

Now he is still quite trustworthy as a coach but the demands are clearly greater especially considering Roma's progress at the beginning of the season which seemed not too good of course this must be used as a lesson so that De Rosi can be able to utilize the squad he has so that its performance does not continue to decline compared to last season. De Rosi must change several things especially for the match scheme that is carried out because when talking about the formation and how the performance on the field is actually still quite good, it's just a small touch of finishing which until now is still constrained to be a problem and De Rosi must be able to change this from now on so that he can prove that he is still capable of being in Roma.

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September 18, 2024, 10:32:42 PM
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Finally AS Roma chose to fire De Rossi after failing to bring victory in the first 4 matches, clearly this is a bad start and it seems AS Roma returned to their original plan. Because from the beginning De Rossi was appointed to be a temporary coach until the end of the season, but when he showed a progressive game AS Roma gave him a longer chance, and when he failed at the beginning of the season AS Roma did not hesitate to return to their original plan. De Rossi is one of the coaches who I think has the skills, it's just that he still has to gain a lot of experience. I think joining the Saudi Pro League team is not wrong, because he can learn a lot there. And when he succeeds in improving his skills I'm sure there will be many European teams who want to bring him in.
It is still too early and I think it is a loss for AS Roma to fire De Rossi because the new coach will have difficulty handling this team when the competition is already underway and the decision to fire a coach at the beginning of the season like this I think is not wise, AS Roma should give De Rossi time to adapt again to this team because in the previous season De Rossi has shown that he has good qualities as a coach so that he can develop the performance of the Roma team last season when he replaced Jose Mourinho.
I think they have giving him time but they see no change which is why they have to take this hard decision, checking from the beginning of the season, during the pre-season matches they never tried to be strong team for once, you saying it too early I think you are making a mistake, to me I gave him grace but he didn't bring out what they are expecting, Jose Mourinho actually tried but he faced the same thing and when De Rossi came him the game started changing, even I testified the As Roma have found a good replacement until now that we discovered it was all Jose Mourinho performance with the players he put in place, I will say from the beginning De Rossi wasn't fit to coach Roma.
I agree with you that Roma was surviving initially with Mourinho game strategy when he left but we thought that it was De Rossi good work on the club unknown to people that he has nothing to offer to the club and people were singing his praises that he is a good coach and he is winning matches with the players Mourinho was complaining about.

It was when the players could no longer use Mourinho strategy to continue winning because they lack the understanding without him for libg and that waa when we saw the true side of De Rossi that he cannot add any value to the team performance. Assuming Mourinho was still Roma's head their performance would have improved.

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September 18, 2024, 10:50:31 PM
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What's surprising about that if they sacked Mourinho, who brought them the title plus the Europa League final (where Roma were robbed)? Whoever they take to replace Rossi, Roma won't rise above what Mourinho did. It seems the management wants some incredible miracles with the usual level of investment. It will be nice to see them fail.
De Rossi dismissal is not something surprising given Roma current very poor performance in Serie A, last season Roma sacked Mourinho only for being involved in a conflict with the club owner and De Rossi who had little experience in coaching became Mourinho successor in coaching Roma, in the rest of the season it is indeed seen if Roma experienced an improvement in game performance and was slowly able to lift their position to a better level in Serie A,  So many of us actually compare him to Mourinho when they are finally his able to end the season in the Europa League zone, what we see at Roma this season actually indicates how De Rossi does not have the ability to build a team even though the management has brought many star players to the squad.

Each team has a different policy in judging a coach and there is clearly a significant difference in performance when Arteta and De Rossi first coached, Arteta did fail to bring Arsenal to the championship in his first season in charge but Arsenal showed an improvement in terms of playing and also their performance at that time, while De Rossi was only able to maximize the squad left by Mourinho but failed with the squad he is building today?
It is likely that the next coach to be sacked in Serie A is fonsesca and it seems inevitable after Milan failure in the Champions League match yesterday.

I don't know how bad De Rossi is as a coach, maybe he should have been given more time to prove himself, but I am 100% sure that:
1. He is weaker than Mourinho.
2. What he achieved last season is the legacy of Mourinho.
The first three games that De Rossi had as a head coach were something like against the 20th, 18th and 16th teams in Serie A. It's hard not to start "showing yourself" with a calendar like this. With him, Roma started to score more but also to concede more, all the fans (many) were happy about the changes, but in the end it led to worse results.
But in any case, the main idiots in this story are Roma's management, they have unfounded ambitions, I don't know who they will be able to hire and how long he will last in such a club.

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September 18, 2024, 10:50:53 PM
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Fresh news here. De Rossi has officially got sacked by Roma after a poor start...



Honestly I'm very surprised with that. I mean it was only the beginning of the season. He wasn't given enough time to see whether he makes progress. I remember how long Arsenal kept patient with Arteta and how it paid out later on. What a pity...  Sad

With whom do you think his seat will be filled?  Huh  For now nobody comes to my mind honestly as I was following the players and managers closer in the latest transfer window. I hope Roma doesn't make a bad choice.
It's yet another season for Roma to suffer another high level of instability, this isn't the best way to go if they really want to achieve a result differently from that which they have been getting, I have to take a deep breath and ask, for how long will they keep sacking and hiring new coaches before they are going to get it right with their coaches, because this pattern of theirs is basically going to mess with the players to the best of my knowledge, because just when the players are already getting along with a new coach, he gets sacked and they have to start all over again to get along with another, its not a good management strategy. Currently like you said there's almost no better replacement and games have been fixed for the team, how are they going to manage, and for how long will they be with an intern till the arrival of an actual coach? Roma just be looking messy to me actually.

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September 18, 2024, 11:28:36 PM
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It's yet another season for Roma to suffer another high level of instability, this isn't the best way to go if they really want to achieve a result differently from that which they have been getting, I have to take a deep breath and ask, for how long will they keep sacking and hiring new coaches before they are going to get it right with their coaches,
Hemmm...
This is AS Roma's 4th match, is Roma too hasty with their decision to sack de Rossi?

but whatever it is, currently, AS Roma will be managed by Ivan Juric, a 49 YO Croatian manager, at least until the end of this season.

but basically, Ivan Juric is already quite close and familiar with Serie A because he has indeed been a football manager in Serie A several times, such as previously in Genoa, Verona, and most recently in Torino.


taken from: Serie A fixture-google

Actually in Serie A, there are several top clubs that are really tough at the beginning of this season. In addition to AS Roma, there are also AC Milan and Bologna. Bologna is also very bad this time, even its position is now below AS Roma, right in 17th position. And in the UCL, Bologna failed to win, only drawing against FC Shakhtar Donetsk.

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