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September 12, 2024, 03:40:21 PM
 #80241

* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

I agree with Juvetus, Torino, Inter and Lazio.
Napoli and Atalanta are expected to win indeed although Napoli is a fluctuating team and Atalanta are facing Fiorentina which is powerless this season. Otherwise the game will be harder for Atalanta.
AC Milan should normally win against Venezia because both of them are struggling too much with Venezia playing worse than AC Milan..
Overall, the stability of Serie A teams is far from being found and some of the top teams are showing a bad performance.

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September 12, 2024, 04:04:21 PM
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* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

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Are you sure that all these teams you bet to win are capable of winning the game? Because I'm not sure that all these teams that you bet on to win are going to win the game, a game of Fiorentina against Atlanta is going to be tough and If you look at Fiorentina's performance since the beginning of the league you will see that they are doing well and they can play against Atlanta and end the game draw, Atlanta is a good team and they are capable of defeating Fiorentina but sometimes Atlanta finds it difficult to defeat some opponents that are very strong and I think that Fiorentina will also go to give them a problem in the game.

Another game that I am still doubting about is Napoli, Napoli's performance in the Series A league is not that good and they have been stressing about defeating Some teams, although the team has signed a striker and I think the reason why they can't score goals is that they don't have striker. After signing another striker I think it can help them I don't expect to win many games as we expect, betting on some games should be like over 1.5 and that can help.

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September 12, 2024, 04:19:11 PM
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As a long-time Juventus fan, I am satisfied with Thiago Motta's work. Of course I'm not happy about the Federico Chiesa issue, I've said it several times that this has left a bad taste in my mouth.
However, I understand that we cannot always think the same and above all he is a coach and I am just a fan.
Although in the transfer market we saw squad changes which even resulted in Federico Chiesa being released to Liverpool. But it seems like the decision taken wasn't so bad after all. Because currently Juventus looks even better. Thiago Motta seems to understand which players he needs in his plans this season. And as a result he is now able to show good progress for Juventus. And for Federico Chiesa he also got a good team. Because moving to Liverpool is not a bad thing. In fact, it could be a good development for his career. As long as he is able to compete there well. And yes, we are all currently quite happy with the work of the new Juventus coach. But if we talk about Federico Chiesa I don't think we see him in the Italian national team? Does that mean he is not included in Spalletti's plans for the Italian national team? Or maybe Federico Chiesa wants to focus on adapting to Liverpool? I still have a lot of questions about Federico Chiesa at the moment.

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September 12, 2024, 04:21:24 PM
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* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

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If we should pick based on the teams' current performance, I don't think anybody will argue that the selected teams are not the favorite to win. However, it would be better if we could look into the selected teams again and remove some, like Atalanta and probably Lazio, rather than be confused by their performances and think they will win. It's possible for them, but the opponent's performance level seems similar to me. The teams I have more confidence in are Juventus, Inter Milan, and Torino. If I were to bet, I would only pick these three games from Serie A. But the truth about football is that it is sometimes unpredictable. Let's just see what happens; maybe it will unfold as predicted.

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September 12, 2024, 04:47:03 PM
 #80245

* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

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I don't want to discuss about  your favorite teams for win in the 4th week of Serie A this season, because almost all of the choices you make are teams that are currently performing quite well in the league, except for Milan, which hasn't 't found its best their performance,  In my opinion, the match between Fiorentina vs Atlanta will be the most difficult match to predict, considering that so far the two teams have performances that we can say are not much different, apart from that the poor defense of the two teams makes it possible for us to see  maybe a draw at the end of the match later, another team that makes me doubt can winning in the match is Milan, Milan which is under Fonsesca coaching, currently under strong pressure after 3 matches without a win and I think the motivation of the Milan players is dropping, so it will most likely Venezia can make good use of it to get at least 1 point in the match.

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September 12, 2024, 04:56:49 PM
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Juventus is improving and they knew the performance of this team was getting better when Motta started working there. He tried to make some changes and so far the changes he made in Juventus were working for this team. Dušan Vlahović was one the effective players on this team and in the game they won the games, Dušan Vlahović played a key role. Dušan Vlahović is a young 24-year-old player who can play there for more years and that's why Juventus is going to take any risk and they want to extend the contract Dušan Vlahović for two more years. His current contract will end in 2026 and Juvnetos is going to extend his contract until 2028.
 


Dušan Vlahović is still 24 years old and since his arrival at Juventus, this player has continued to show good progress and it is indeed fitting for Juventus management to extend his contract.

I highlight Juventus' performance not only on individual players and indeed under Motta's coaching, the Juventus team has changed for the better even though at the beginning of this season we have not been able to measure the true strength of the team but there is progress being made by Motta to be able to make Juventus much better this season and I am quite optimistic about that and do not even rule out the possibility that Juventus can compete fiercely in the fight for the Serie A title this season.
The total overhaul carried out by Motta this season at Juventus is starting to show positive results, not from the match results they got but the real changes can be seen from Juventus game which is indeed more aggressive and braver in controlling the ball in a match, apart from that we can see how Juventus the Motta era appeared more aggressive in attacking to look for lots of goals in a match and that was different compared to when Allegri was still coaching Juventus, where Juventus played more defensively and did not dare to controll the ball for dominated the match, so we can see how Juventus in the Allegri era won more often and losing by a narrow score so far.

a game that tends to rely on ball possession and pressure in attack makes Juventus game more interesting to watch at the moment, but even so, I think there are still several problems that must be fixed by Motta at this time, including the accuracy of the passes and also the speed of their midfielders and wingers in building fast attacks, having Dusan Vlahovic on the front line of course gives Juventus an advantage with his sharpness so far, but I think motta must be able to make the midfielders and also the wing line  provide accurate passes to support and pamper Dusan Vlahovic as Juventus main striker at the moment.

Dusan Vlahovic is definitely a good player in Juventus and he was effective for this team. Even Dusan Vlahovic helped his team in many games and without this player, they would have problems differently. But the thing about Dusan Vlahovic and this team is about the huge money he gets in Juventus.
If you compare Juventus and Inter Milan you can understand in Inter Milan Marko Arnautović's salary is 3 million euros, Lautaro Martínez gets 9 million euros, Marcus Thuram gets 6 million and Mehdi Taremi gets 3 million euros salary in Inter Milan while Dusan Vlahovic himself will get 22 million euros salary which much higher than what they get in Inter Milan.
 





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September 12, 2024, 05:01:02 PM
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Juventus is improving and they knew the performance of this team was getting better when Motta started working there. He tried to make some changes and so far the changes he made in Juventus were working for this team. Dušan Vlahović was one the effective players on this team and in the game they won the games, Dušan Vlahović played a key role. Dušan Vlahović is a young 24-year-old player who can play there for more years and that's why Juventus is going to take any risk and they want to extend the contract Dušan Vlahović for two more years. His current contract will end in 2026 and Juvnetos is going to extend his contract until 2028.
 



Vlahovic is really a great talent. He is still very young indeed. However Juventus couldn't make use of his scoring skills very well so far. I must say Allegri actually.  Tongue

Because like I said before, Allegri adopts a defensive system. He likes to focus on preserving a score advantage rather than opening the gap more. This was why Vlahovic couldn't reach his potential under his management. But now they have Motta thankfully! This has already reflected on Vlahovic's game too. He already scored 2 goals in 3 games.  Smiley  Juventus should have always played an attacking game instead of that ugly game!

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September 12, 2024, 05:36:41 PM
 #80248

* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

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start again the betting with serie A, i try this

If we should pick based on the teams' current performance, I don't think anybody will argue that the selected teams are not the favorite to win. However, it would be better if we could look into the selected teams again and remove some, like Atalanta and probably Lazio, rather than be confused by their performances and think they will win. It's possible for them, but the opponent's performance level seems similar to me. The teams I have more confidence in are Juventus, Inter Milan, and Torino. If I were to bet, I would only pick these three games from Serie A. But the truth about football is that it is sometimes unpredictable. Let's just see what happens; maybe it will unfold as predicted.
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the list of clubs that OP will bet on, because on paper the clubs that will be bet on are indeed the favorite clubs from each match. However, the results cannot guarantee that they will win, especially since there are still several clubs that are still shaky in their performance. AC Milan for example, they have never won until week 3 this season, and in this match they may continue their poor record like in the previous match. However, even so, on paper they are still favored, especially since they will face a club that has just been promoted this season. In terms of opportunities, no one doubts that they have a very big chance.

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September 12, 2024, 05:59:03 PM
 #80249

* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

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start again the betting with serie A, i try this

Well, it is a good choice for multi bets or parlay bets because indeed, the teams you choose are the favorite teams to win and that is also reflected in the odds available. In fact, without doing any analysis I think we will easily choose it, at least if to make a single bet it can also be a good choice with a higher bet. Based on the predictions on paper, I personally do not doubt their chances of winning even though they include Torino, Lazio and Atalanta but still, the opposing teams they face also do not look promising to be able to make a surprise.

But indeed, sometimes high confidence can also be a bad result but anyway, if we bet and are ready for bad results too of course the bets we make will still be safe and fine. So yes, for this time I agree with your choice and of course, I will also make a parlay bet and include those teams, hopefully this will be a good result as expected.

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September 12, 2024, 06:48:20 PM
 #80250

* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

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start again the betting with serie A, i try this

If we should pick based on the teams' current performance, I don't think anybody will argue that the selected teams are not the favorite to win. However, it would be better if we could look into the selected teams again and remove some, like Atalanta and probably Lazio, rather than be confused by their performances and think they will win. It's possible for them, but the opponent's performance level seems similar to me. The teams I have more confidence in are Juventus, Inter Milan, and Torino. If I were to bet, I would only pick these three games from Serie A. But the truth about football is that it is sometimes unpredictable. Let's just see what happens; maybe it will unfold as predicted.
I agree with your choice, but Milan actually deserves to be included in the betting slip. Although Milan has never won at the beginning of this season, Venezia is not a strong team and this is just a promoted team that should be worthy of being defeated.
And for Atalanta and Lazio, I have a prediction if BTTS is the right choice, or choose to bet on over. Because the teams that Lazio and Atalanta face actually have performances that are not easy to predict and sometimes can be a surprise with a draw.
For Napoli, I seem to avoid every match of this team before giving a convincing performance.

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September 12, 2024, 07:19:35 PM
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Juventus, who have been trained by Thiago Motta this season, could indeed be a tough opponent for other teams in Serie A, but Juventus must also be able to improve their performance over time this season because they must also be aware that there are many opponents and matches that they still have to go through with victory this season. I also do not consider Thiago Motta as a bad coach for Juventus because he is a coach who has a different perspective to improve Juventus' team performance this season and we will see how Juventus' condition is in the next few matches.
Motta definitely showed what he can do last season, and that's why he was hired by Juventus, and I am guessing that with a bigger team he has a chance to actually win a title. Would be lovely for Motta, he would be set for life, he would be the guy who brought title back to Juventus and I think he has what it takes to do it, and Juventus squad has what it takes to do it as well. He has a very very running oriented system, so players may get tired a lot more quicker this way, fatigue will be very important aspect of their season, I hope that he trained the players very well, because if he didn't, then injuries will happen too.

I think the best way would be just trying to figure out how they could avoid it all together and just rotate players smartly. If they can do that, then they will be doing something that could get a lot better, we should see this getting bigger importance, with a good rotation they can rest players very easily and not tire them too much.

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September 12, 2024, 07:23:08 PM
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But have you ever thought that we only have 3 matches in Serie a? Determining that Allegri is worse than Motta at Juventus cannot be concluded yet, maybe it's true and I admit that the previous season Bologna in Motta's hands experienced a very extraordinary improvement, on the other hand Juventus last season suffered a lot of defeats, but this is a new season and the journey is still far away, who is better we can see if a lot of match data is shown, we don't know if Juventus will be able to be consistent in this situation.

If we are talking about the best coaches that have ever coached or managed Juventus I will say Maximiliano Allegri is up there with them and no matter what Happened after he shouldn’t be disrespected. Last season Allegri had a poor season but I will say it is the club’s fault actually, he was hit with numerous penalties like points deduction and he had the injury crisis that had almost half of his players out which made it difficult for the team to get back to winning matches regularly although they still got to qualify for the European competitions which clearly shows how impactful he still was at the face of the crisis and that’s why he was not sacked like other coaches are him sacked.

Thiago Motta was excellent at Bologna taking them to the champions league places which I wouldn’t lie was a difficult job he did, but what’s more difficult is the consistency to repeat the same thing again. I won’t compare or rate him high enough as Allegri except if he backs it up with consistency and trophies. So for now we need to die down the comparison

I think it's a wiser answer to see this side because after all Allegri is very meritorious for Juventus even when the team's condition is in the worst but remains there and completed his assignments to get a decent place as much as possible he got last season.

Indeed, if you want to compare, we must first look at how much the trophy contribution can be given by Motta in the next few seasons for a more decent assessment and see who is the best in leading Juventus.

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September 12, 2024, 07:40:12 PM
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* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

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Are you playing parlay here, it's a big risk and can you afford it, I think you try your luck sir.

Because the matches that are very difficult to predict from my point of view are the Atalanta BC - Fiorentina, Torino - Lecce matches, these two matches are much more difficult because the condition of the team has ups and downs, especially like Atalanta, even though last season they got a win but it seems like this season they are a little different they experienced 2 defeats and one win, the same as Fiorentina, they have not been able to be sure that they have a match during their 3 matches in Serie A so far.

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September 12, 2024, 08:32:16 PM
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Dušan Vlahović is still 24 years old and since his arrival at Juventus, this player has continued to show good progress and it is indeed fitting for Juventus management to extend his contract.

I highlight Juventus' performance not only on individual players and indeed under Motta's coaching, the Juventus team has changed for the better even though at the beginning of this season we have not been able to measure the true strength of the team but there is progress being made by Motta to be able to make Juventus much better this season and I am quite optimistic about that and do not even rule out the possibility that Juventus can compete fiercely in the fight for the Serie A title this season.

He did a lot but he could did a lot more.
This year is the final test with a new coach.
If he keeps the same result it will be not such a good deal the renewal.

They paid him 80 mil, he should score nearly 30goal per year at that price and especially at that salary.

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September 12, 2024, 08:39:16 PM
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* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

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Super risky to bet on a league like this in SEVEN games, i know you want bulk odds, and i support that, but is super impossible to happen, plus Napoli Torino and Lazio are super risky teams in this seasons, they are super irregular, so for me is a must avoid.

Milan is in one of his worst start seasons ever, so avoid also, i know they can have good odds because of that but i prefer to stay away from them.
Of course it is good to avoid clubs that their performance is not consistent because no one knows what theor next match will be like maybe a win or not. This is because theu have not put that confidence on their fans that they are going to do better in the next match. I carefully pick the teams that i bet on this season because there are lots of clubs that are weak in the beginning of this season

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Last edit: September 12, 2024, 09:25:59 PM by Nanga Parbat
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Juventus, who have been trained by Thiago Motta this season, could indeed be a tough opponent for other teams in Serie A, but Juventus must also be able to improve their performance over time this season because they must also be aware that there are many opponents and matches that they still have to go through with victory this season. I also do not consider Thiago Motta as a bad coach for Juventus because he is a coach who has a different perspective to improve Juventus' team performance this season and we will see how Juventus' condition is in the next few matches.
Juventus performance was very good and strong in the first season.  But they have started ruining themselves by making their own standards.  And Motta has done a great job and got his win.  And really Juventus need to improve and revive their quality and try to win matches.  Hope to make yourself strong but this hope does not look very strong.  And they should act on it.And it will be great if they improve themselves in this season otherwise they will lose this season's win as well.











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September 12, 2024, 09:15:38 PM
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* Empoli - Juventus => Juventus
 * AC Milan - Venezia => AC Milan
 * Atalanta BC - Fiorentina => Atalanta BC
 * Torino - Lecce => Torino
 * Cagliari - Napoli => Napoli
 * Monza - Inter Milan => Inter Milan
 * Lazio - Hellas Verona => Lazio

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I agree with you almost 80 to 90 percent. Empoli team is more favorite than Juventus football team. Empoli team players are in good strength and they will play well in next match. I agree with you in the case of AC Milan prediction. AC Milan team will perform well in next match and we will see one sided game. We watched past matches in which they won the match one sided and we expected that they will continue that kind of performance. Atalanta team will win  next match because they are hard working in all things and they can perform well in any difficult situation. And for the other matches I have same opinion like you.











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September 12, 2024, 09:33:53 PM
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I agree with you almost 80 to 90 percent. Empoli team is more favorite than Juventus football team. Empoli team players are in good strength and they will play well in next match. I agree with you in the case of AC Milan prediction. AC Milan team will perform well in next match and we will see one sided game. We watched past matches in which they won the match one sided and we expected that they will continue that kind of performance. Atalanta team will win  next match because they are hard working in all things and they can perform well in any difficult situation. And for the other matches I have same opinion like you.

You have a point on saying that Empoli is more favourite than Juventus because they have good strength, but to me that is your own perception, so I can’t say you are wrong because I respect your choice, but did you know what Juventus can do? May be you have no idea why you will choose Empoli to them, but for me, I think in the game Juventus will play more than Empoli.
 
Or you conclude to choose Empoli over Juventus because of their last game that they played against AS Roma, which ended in a draw, and Empoli won when they played against them. Although you have your reasons for that, to me, I don’t think Empoli will win Juventus in the game. It will be somehow very hard for them to overcome that Juventus will not allow it to happen. 

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September 12, 2024, 11:51:43 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2024, 12:20:28 AM by BitcoinHunt3r
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Juventus performance was very good and strong in the first season.  But they have started ruining themselves by making their own standards.  And Motta has done a great job and got his win.  And really Juventus need to improve and revive their quality and try to win matches.  Hope to make yourself strong but this hope does not look very strong.  And they should act on it.And it will be great if they improve themselves in this season otherwise they will lose this season's win as well.

For this season Juventus is still on the right track, even though they only drew in the last match I think that is normal because their opponent was AS Roma. For the next match I am not saying Juventus will win easily because Empoli has played well so far especially when they play at home, Juventus really need luck to get 3 points or they will only get 1 point. By the way I am also highlighting Udinese and Torino both teams are in the top 4 with 7 points from 3 matches will they drop out of top 4 in week 4?

Also the match between Atalanta vs Fiorentina one of them tries to get 3 points to be able to move up to a better position, Fiorentina have not won so far and they have only draw their last 3 games, on the other hand, Atalanta does not want to lose any more points after being defeated by Inter Milan in the last match it means one of them needs luck to get 3 points. I expect both teams to score a lot of goals at least 3 goals and bet on total goals over 2.5 with odd  1.71

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September 13, 2024, 01:30:22 AM
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You have a point on saying that Empoli is more favourite than Juventus because they have good strength, but to me that is your own perception, so I can’t say you are wrong because I respect your choice, but did you know what Juventus can do? May be you have no idea why you will choose Empoli to them, but for me, I think in the game Juventus will play more than Empoli.
Empoli have their amazing start in this season and probably a best or one of best starts in their club history, but it's just only first three matches. In a long season, Empoli will have many difficulties to maintain this form, first of all they have limited resources; second they are not familiar with staying in top range of Serie A. Other clubs will pay more attention and play more careful in next matches with Empoli after seeing what they could do.

For this season Juventus is still on the right track, even though they only drew in the last match I think that is normal because their opponent was AS Roma. For the next match I am not saying Juventus will win easily because Empoli has played well so far especially when they play at home, Juventus really need luck to get 3 points or they will only get 1 point.
Juventus are back on where they used to belong to for years and they many matches ahead to improve themselves with new head coach, new players and to prove to all clubs in Serie A that the Old Lady is actually back for domination in Serie A. Empoli can try to challenge Juventus but it won't change a fact that Juventus are stronger in a direct match and through a long season.

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By the way I am also highlighting Udinese and Torino both teams are in the top 4 with 7 points from 3 matches will they drop out of top 4 in week 4?
If they not drop out of top four after the week 4, they will be kicked out of this range in future. It's only matter of time because with their resources, it's not easy for them to maintain such high positions against several big clubs in Serie A.

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