Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[pusaka]

What a strange start of the season.

While a not optimal start was predictrable for Napoli and Juventus, since they changed a lot in the pitch and their coaches too, this was not predictable for Atalanta and Inter.

Atalanta got 3 lost game in 5 games, and Inter lost around 5 point in comparison the past year.

It was fun to see 3 months ago that Inter's fan were calling out for giving the golden balon to Lautaro who scored 1 goal in the last 15 games.

Of the 4 teams you mentioned, there are 2 other teams that also experienced the same thing, namely AC Milan and AS Roma. Indeed, at the beginning of this season there were many teams that started badly and even far from what we thought. The beginning of the season is usually scary, because some teams are still looking for the best formula and if they are unlucky then they will get bad results. Even Torino, who is actually not much talked about to be able to compete at the top, can actually perform well and until the 5th week they can lead the Serie A points this season. I hope Torino can be consistent enough so that they can compete until the end of the season.

I was shocked by Varane retirement, i just dont see it coming.

I know injurys are a hell when they chase you but, i dont know he was that bad injured. 31 years old in modern football is "young".

This news is quite surprising, because he had just joined Como and only played a few minutes to help Como, but suddenly he decided to retire early at the age of 31.
I don't know for sure what the reason was for him deciding to retire at the age of 31, but maybe one of the reasons was because of the injury he suffered. It's rare for me to see a player who decides to retire at an age like Varane, so I'm sure he has considered this very carefully so that he made a decision that makes us a little surprised by the decision he made.

[Cryptoprincess101]

What Atalanta experienced was indeed beyond many people's predictions, how could they lose to a team that had never won and they felt it when playing at home. Not only that, because in terms of the game they also lost statistically to Como, so this was not great luck for Como but they deserved this victory. At first I was quite confident when they were able to take the lead first, but their advantage was reversed by Como so that Como won 3-1. The goal scored in the final minutes was not enough to bring Atalanta to get points in this match. Atalanta must evaluate what happened in this match, because in my opinion they experienced a slight decline, they will be left far behind if they continue like this.

Not only in the match against Como but it has been seen since several early matches of the season that Atalanta's performance at the beginning of this season was very bad and I think the Atalanta coach must immediately make improvements to solve this problem.
If we look at previous seasons, Atalanta has also experienced something like this and the coach who has been with them for a long time has many ways to solve this problem so I still believe that Atalanta will be able to rise in the near future.
However, the defeat against Como was a big highlight because it was a bit embarrassing for the Atalanta team who lost at home against a promoted team.

Atalanta was really very disappointing in the game they played against Como and i can't really say it was fatigue that affected the players because the champions league match they played against Arsenal was about 5 days before they played Como so it is believed that the players has rested a lot. Atalanta even in previous season are always back and forth, they don't make much improvements neither do they drop so much in form and they have been like that for years if not that they worked so hard last season and won the Europa league title.
        Ever since Atalanta won the Europa league last season, a lot is expected from them this season and starting up with this poor performance won't do the club any good, imagine playing 5 games in the serie A and winning just 2 and lost 3. The only game that they did better was the champions league match against Arsenal because they actually tried to draw that match so the coach needs good tactics on how he can step up their game and make better improvements.

[Juse14]

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Intermilan last season was able to impress us as a team that have a financial problems, but still Inzaghi was able to build the squad well enough to win the scudetto, what happened at the beginning of this season is of course very tragic for Intermilan, they not only drew from teams like Genoa and Monza but lost 3 points from eternal rivals is something that hurts very much after their dominance over Milan so far, this season Inzaghi obviously has a lot of difficult work to do and after the change of ownership of the team a few months ago, but what many fans expected of the new ownership did not happen and we can see how passive Intermilan was in the transfer market winter.

I think Intermilan will find it difficult to maintain their positive performance this season as defending champions, because with the absence of team improvement it will actually make them slump when other teams succeed in upgrading their current team, in a tight competition it is clear that retaining players and old coaches does not guarantee that a team can maintain their performance like last season, because other teams will actually improve the quality of their team for big ambition in the new season.

Inter Milan is really up against it this season. Having won the Scudetto last season despite the financial problems, the expectations were certainly high for them. However, they opened this season with that draw against Genoa, then another one against Monza, and it was so painful a defeat to AC Milan. It clearly indicates that Inter needs to do more improvements especially in the midst of growingly tight competition. If not a lot of improvements are done then it will be very tricky for them to retain the title especially when other teams are strengthening.

I was shocked by Varane retirement, i just dont see it coming.


I know injurys are a hell when they chase you but, i dont know he was that bad injured. 31 years old in modern football is "young".

I also was surprised by Varane's decision to retire, especially considering he is just 31 years old. In today's world game, many players are still at their best since that age is considered peak. However, constant injuries can indeed be a big Perhaps influencing factor on decisions like this one. That is felt by Varane maybe his body no longer able to compete at the highest levels and for, us as fans, this decision came quite suddenly.

[hahay]

Inter players could be tired after the match with City, and I also think Milan was a little lucky in this match, a draw could have been a good result for this match, but for Fonseca the win was an important result, because of the bad start of the season it was important for them to get a win to show that they are able to beat big teams. I think that Inter will recover, and will be able to win, they will also beat Udinese, and I am not sure about Milan yet, but in the next match with Lecce I expect them to win.

She seemed very tired to me too, yes I'm right. In fact, you lost badly against Milan, which I would never have expected and among other things, all the predictions had you as a winner.
I believe there is a tiredness problem in Inzaghi's team and they should understand how to resolve this or everything can get out of hand.

There is no need to argue about the defeat due to fatigue because after all, Milan also previously played against Liverpool in the Champions League even though they lost, at least Milan also had one goal against Liverpool in the Champions League. After all, in the previous match, Inter was actually held to a draw by Monza and thus, it can be assumed that Inter cannot always have winning results throughout the season and thus, there is also a chance for other teams to be able to win the scudetto and not always obtained by Inter.

But anyway, Milan really managed to win in a big match like that and with that result too, then of course Fonseca might stay in Milan and not be fired in the near future as previously rumored. Victory in a match like this really proves that Fonseca has quality and is not as bad as imagined.

[Velvet78]

One of the games this week is Udinese - Inter. What do you think about the possible result?



These are the odds. Inter really couldn't make the start they wanted, did they?    They make really simple point losses. I can't say the Milano derby was also the result of a simple mistake though. Because no matter how bad Milan started it was still a big game on paper. Inter are having hard days and I can say the same for Lautaro as well.

But after losing points in two games in a row, I think it is time for Inter to win. I want to trust them once again and place a bet on these decent odds.

[Nanga Parbat]

True. Atalanta started the season unstable several times from their four matches, they were only able to win twice and lose twice and now it continues to be three defeats from five matches. Atalanta as the defending champion of the European league seems to have no significant development at the beginning of the season if it continues like this I am not sure they can finish in the top four of Serie A, even in the European arena they will not be able to compete anymore. Atalanta needs to improve starting now because seria a is still very long, and there is still a lot of time to make the best squad and find their best game again.

The defeat from como must be used as a moment to rise in the next match, the defeat from como can be said to be very embarrassing because como finally managed to achieve its first victory in seria a. This promoted club finally managed to embarrass atalanta in front of its own supporters. Como apart from being a promoted club also started the season less convincingly, but they were able to give a big surprise to Atalanta, So atalanta must take this defeat as a punishment that they must rise immediately.

This suggests that Atlanta performance is not so strong and good.  But then these games are good, but things that other teams have are not there.  They should have decided to work hard or change their coach which would have allowed them to perform well in some matches and learn something new from the new coach which would have benefited them in the game.  It cannot be that the teams that are strong and hardworking will be mentioned, those that have such action will be strong and what will be the difference between them.  Atalanta now have a chance to get back on track and if they win the match they can get there.  But if they will work hard in it, then there is enough time, if they do not pay attention to it and continue to show their performance like daily, then they will not be allowed to come in this field.  So this Como has done these things due to his hard work and speed which were doing poorly before.  And now they have improved at the start of the season.  Atlanta needs to get better now and it will only benefit them.

[Ruttoshi]

What Atalanta experienced was indeed beyond many people's predictions, how could they lose to a team that had never won and they felt it when playing at home. Not only that, because in terms of the game they also lost statistically to Como, so this was not great luck for Como but they deserved this victory. At first I was quite confident when they were able to take the lead first, but their advantage was reversed by Como so that Como won 3-1. The goal scored in the final minutes was not enough to bring Atalanta to get points in this match. Atalanta must evaluate what happened in this match, because in my opinion they experienced a slight decline, they will be left far behind if they continue like this.

Not only in the match against Como but it has been seen since several early matches of the season that Atalanta's performance at the beginning of this season was very bad and I think the Atalanta coach must immediately make improvements to solve this problem.
If we look at previous seasons, Atalanta has also experienced something like this and the coach who has been with them for a long time has many ways to solve this problem so I still believe that Atalanta will be able to rise in the near future.
However, the defeat against Como was a big highlight because it was a bit embarrassing for the Atalanta team who lost at home against a promoted team.

Atalanta was really very disappointing in the game they played against Como and i can't really say it was fatigue that affected the players because the champions league match they played against Arsenal was about 5 days before they played Como so it is believed that the players has rested a lot. Atalanta even in previous season are always back and forth, they don't make much improvements neither do they drop so much in form and they have been like that for years if not that they worked so hard last season and won the Europa league title.
        Ever since Atalanta won the Europa league last season, a lot is expected from them this season and starting up with this poor performance won't do the club any good, imagine playing 5 games in the serie A and winning just 2 and lost 3. The only game that they did better was the champions league match against Arsenal because they actually tried to draw that match so the coach needs good tactics on how he can step up their game and make better improvements.

A lot needs to be done by the coach because it baffles me to see Europa title winners of last season in a messy state to the point that Coma and average team was able to defeat the hands down without any difficulties. Atalanta performance was pretty good last season but it declined this season for a reason I don't know.

If they continue like this we might not see them in any European league next season only if they improve their performance and start winning matches later before it is too late for them to catch up a spot in European league.

[Hvdv]

I was shocked by Varane retirement, i just dont see it coming.


I know injurys are a hell when they chase you but, i dont know he was that bad injured. 31 years old in modern football is "young".

Especially for a football player of this quality, retiring at the age of 31 is an unexpected decision. Even if he has an injury, he is still young enough to play after his injury heals. I don't know if Varane will be able to return to football, but I can say that this decision is very surprising since he is a new transfer. Retiring at the age of 31 is a big surprise for a defender.

[Raflesia]

Atalanta are still struggling with their uncertainty. The loss of Scammacca seems to have had a big impact on Gasperini's squad at the moment with Lookman now back in the side and not breaking down like before but it wasn't enough to get them back on track at the start of the season.

It was definitely unexpected that Como could get 3 points from Atalanta although this kind of thing always happens for a surprise but still it was a big loss for Atalanta when they lost their home match.
With this result, Atalanta was thrown to 12th place and of course this is not comfortable for them considering 5 matches with 2 wins and 3 defeats as well as being the weakest club in terms of defense because they have missed 11 goals, obviously this does not reflect them as a dark horse club in previous seasons.

Atlanta who is currently Europa Cup winner having their fourth defeat of this season with play just seven games which is clearly indicating how awful they are specially after losing against Como things are going from bad to worse, and they needed to think about their strategy because if they are fail to do required changes then surely we are going to have them into problematic area.

Their finishing is completely out of the way as they are having in last season and return of Lookman is surely going to have good impact on them, but they need to work on their defense which is giving them not good support they already concede 11 goals from their 5 games with performance like this we can't expect them into better place because now in this season things are going to be more challenging as many teams are preparing for the better performance, and they are also ready for this.

Gasperini's strategy is actually not too bad but he will definitely still find it difficult to carry out the current game scheme especially when there are surprises in the days before the transfer closes where players leave and get injured for a long time so that the plans he has built perfectly must fail due to some unexpected conditions and the result is Atalanta's performance as now where there is no clarity and actually tends to decline over time.

Gasperini seems to need to think of a new step because when it comes to finsihing in the match against Como it's actually not that bad it's just that they can't make the momentum good especially when the possession that is done is not supported by the creation of opportunities so that even though they have the ball but progressively Como is much better in building their attacks. This is what Atalanta must pay attention to at this time because after all, a difficult start to the season can make their situation worse if conditions like this are not improved from now on, especially since their schedule is quite busy for now because they are not only focused on one competition.

[Dzwaafu11]

One of the games this week is Udinese - Inter. What do you think about the possible result?



These are the odds. Inter really couldn't make the start they wanted, did they?    They make really simple point losses. I can't say the Milano derby was also the result of a simple mistake though. Because no matter how bad Milan started it was still a big game on paper. Inter are having hard days and I can say the same for Lautaro as well.

But after losing points in two games in a row, I think it is time for Inter to win. I want to trust them once again and place a bet on these decent odds.

Let see what will happen; they will get winning at this point; they have been disappointing this while. Their against Udinese should be something we should be expecting to win from Inter and not lose. I can also trust them once again. Sometimes a team can have a bad time and still comeback in a short period of time.

I hope that happens to Inter this time around, although I know that Udinese will want to do everything in their power to see that they do something positive in this game. However, let's wait and see what Inter will offer us this time around again. I can’t predict either, but I’m expecting them to win the match. 

[Pokapoka124]

Varane retirement announcement: The decision has been made

Raphael Varane has decided to retire from professional football with immediate effect, bringing to an end a storied career that saw him turn out with Real Madrid and Manchester United among others.

According to Matteo Moretto, the centre-back has decided to hang up his boots at the age of just 31.

Le Parisien had reported that Varane was on the brink of terminating his contract with Serie A side Como, which was only signed in the summer, and that he was considering quitting the game.

Moretto has now confirmed the decision via a tweet.

“Raphael Varane is retiring from football. The decision has been made,” he reports.

Why is Raphael Varane retiring from football?
Varane had been plagued with injury problems in the recent years of his career and following the 2022 World Cup, in which he gave a titanic performance for France in their failed attempt to defend the trophy, he elected to quit international football in a bid to prolong his club career.

Source link: https://www.footballtransfers.com/us/transfer-news/uk-premier-league/2024/09/raphael-varane-retirement-announcement-us

It’s a shame to see one of the best centre-backs in his time retiring at a young age. At 31, Varane still has a couple of years to play competitively before he retires. I read he has suffered a couple of injuries lately that has become too frequent which has resulted to him making this decision to take a rest from professional football. Varane had a great career, he won all the major trophies in football. I wish him all the best off the pitch.

[Oluwa-btc]

I was shocked by Varane retirement, i just dont see it coming.


I know injurys are a hell when they chase you but, i dont know he was that bad injured. 31 years old in modern football is "young".

Did you not see him Injured all these years with Manchester United? Last time I saw him having impressive game time was with France during the FIFA World Cup Competition they won.
It's good to see that he's paying close attention to what the body and the brain also says. Just as other famous and top footballers has said, football will definitely miss the five times Champions League Competition winner and FIFA World Cup Competition winner. Goodluck to him in the next phase of his career.

[redsun114]

Varane retiring doesn't really surprise me anymore because he was playing just for money for a while now, and he did the right thing by retiring, which means Como won't be forced to pay him anymore, and that is money saved, from a player who wouldn't play anyway. This was something I expected from Neymar honestly, dude is getting paid 100 million just to rest at home, and that's shady at best, I feel like that's actually a bit like a scam at this point, but there is a contract so they can't do anything about it.

Varane wasn't good for the past few years, and hasn't played much for United neither, since his Madrid days he hasn't been good and when he joined Como it was obvious that he wouldn't be great, and after the injury he just decided his body can't take it anymore.

[kawetsriyanto]

I was shocked by Varane retirement, i just dont see it coming.
I know injurys are a hell when they chase you but, i dont know he was that bad injured. 31 years old in modern football is "young".

Yep. It seems too early for him to retire. He is still 31 years old, some players can play until 40 years old. However, he has a serious injury, it is a severe knee injury. Everyone mustn't expect him to retire, but the medical team may advise him to retire considering the possibility of a worse condition of his knee injury. I think it is the best decision for him.

By the way, Varane has won any prestigious trophies in football. He doesn't need to prove anything else, he is one of the best defender in history. If he retires now, he can start to begin his a new career as a coach. Or he may consider to be a staff in Como, he can support Fabregas. Thierry Henry is also a part of board of director there. He has good relationship with some people there.

[Baki202]

I have the impression, like Real Madrid, of seeing a very tired team and also very exhausted from last season's effort
I always say that these poor players play too much and a lot, in my opinion that's the reason
I don't see any other reason, the team is the same, the coach is the same and they haven't suddenly become poor

Real Madrid is not as strong as they are last season and it is normal you can not get what you want everytime, but we all know real Madrid to be all and doing so playing this way is not what they expect and even me did not expect this from them, real Madrid is usually very vibrant  but this now is not what we want to see or get from them. Playing ball is their profession and this something that they are use to, given an excuses of how they are tired from last season to me is an excuse and that is why they even brought in a new player and how did it turn out worse than last season and everyone was excited when they heard it was Mbappe that they are bringing in, the mbappe now is just there with a very low performance even when people expected a lot from him, it is not to late. For him to actually make amendment to become a supper player that he his.

[Jegileman]

I also was surprised by Varane's decision to retire, especially considering he is just 31 years old. In today's world game, many players are still at their best since that age is considered peak. However, constant injuries can indeed be a big Perhaps influencing factor on decisions like this one. That is felt by Varane maybe his body no longer able to compete at the highest levels and for, us as fans, this decision came quite suddenly.

Varane have achieved a lot in football and I don’t think it is a problem if he considers to go for a retirement at this age of his, it’s perfectly okay if he doesn’t want to continue again. He has achieved a lot in football by now and he’ll really enjoy the remaining moments outside the football career with his family. He’s a player and leader that I respect a lot. I also respected his decision to retire now and really in support of it. He knows better where he’s getting at and I hope he achieves everything even after his football career.

If they continue like this we might not see them in any European league next season only if they improve their performance and start winning matches later before it is too late for them to catch up a spot in European league.

They should be fighting for a spot for the champions league and not the Europa league again this season. They’re the defending champions of the Europa league and also currently participating in the champions league which is a sign for them to improve their performance if they really want to fare far in this season. Atalanta has that quality to defeat big teams, so I expect that they do the needful from now.

[Jatiluhung]

I was shocked by Varane retirement, i just dont see it coming.


I know injurys are a hell when they chase you but, i dont know he was that bad injured. 31 years old in modern football is "young".

But it seems that Varane's retirement is not that surprising for those who have known Varane for a long time. Like the people closest to Varane. because it is reported that all this time he has been fighting hard to fight his own body which is often haunted by injuries. Retiring at 31 is really too young. But yeah, he did it reluctantly because it seemed like it was what was best for him. And it seems he has had enough of his struggles so far. Well, we can only wish the best for Varane, who has now officially retired at a young age.

Reference: https://www.bola.com/dunia/read/5712001/hugo-lloris-ungkap-penderitaan-varane-sebelum-memutuskan-pensiun-ia-terus-menerus-berjuang-melawan-tubuhnya?page=2

[Pokapoka124]

Como team is performing well today against Atalanta. The Como team is yet to win a match this season. This party is not a strong party. So in today's match we all considered Atalanta as the favorite. This is Atalanta's home match so we expected to see Atalanta's dominance. But Atalanta players are not able to perform well in this match.

Como is not a strong team and they only promoted to Serie A this season. Losing points to an opponent like Como is a bad performance and result from Atalanta that is one of representative clubs for Serie A in Champions League. With Como, this draw against a strong team in Serie A is a motivating result for their fight to stay in Serie A after this season ending.

As we know already, anything is possible in the world of football and I believe people who stake on these games can testify to this. Six points in five games is a really poor stat for Atalanta, playing at home against Como one will likely predict Atalanta to get a win but they performed poorly and let the away team get all three points.

[EL MOHA]

Varane retiring doesn't really surprise me anymore because he was playing just for money for a while now, and he did the right thing by retiring, which means Como won't be forced to pay him anymore, and that is money saved, from a player who wouldn't play anyway. This was something I expected from Neymar honestly, dude is getting paid 100 million just to rest at home, and that's shady at best, I feel like that's actually a bit like a scam at this point, but there is a contract so they can't do anything about it.

Varane wasn't good for the past few years, and hasn't played much for United neither, since his Madrid days he hasn't been good and when he joined Como it was obvious that he wouldn't be great, and after the injury he just decided his body can't take it anymore.

I think you’re actually mixing things up here, there is a clear difference between the player not actually playing well or a good player than him getting injured, Varane was always a good defender whenever he was called upon by even Manchester United where he last played his professional football at, Varane wasn’t Mr reliable Due to his injury but I can tell you he was always one of the first players on the team whenever his club plays football.

Moreover Como was actually going to terminate his contract right before he announced the end of his illustrious career so there was nothin for him at como even if he didn’t end it now. So I think Anybody who is actually insisting he wasn’t good even at United is just throwing Shades  at him for no reason because he was good or excellent whenever he is available and a clear example is the just concluded FA cup final between Manchester United and Manchester city where he pocketed Halaand the deadliest striker.

[Pokapoka124]

I would like to try this bet

• Atalanta BC - Como i will bet on Atalanta BC
• AC Milan - Lecce i will bet on AC Milan
• Udinese - Inter Milan i will bet on Inter Milan
• AS Roma - Venezia i will bet on AS Roma
• Napoli - Monza i will bet on Napoli

Como is last and Atalanta is very strong, ditto Milan and ditto Inter
Roma also seem very aggressive
Napoli wants to shine this season, so I think they will win

AC Milan is very likely to win against Lecce who have managed to get one win out of five games in the league this season especially when AC Milan is playing at home.

Inter Milan have a high winning probability in this game even though they are playing away to Udinese, my prediction is a win also.

Napoli to win against Monza and AS Roma to defeat Venezia.