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July 26, 2021, 12:54:54 PM
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If Haaland doesn't sell this year and Dortmund doesn't extend his contract, his contract expires next year. BvB Dortmund could lose a football star like Haaland for free with no revenue. They are also aware of this. So if the contract cannot be renewed, it would be more profitable for them to sell it.
Haaland contract expires in June 2024 but he can quit Dortmund next year after paying €75m.
I read Chelsea offered around €150m to Dortmund, accept it or leave it, I think it is a golden chance for Dortmund otherwise they will lose him next year most probably for half that number!

Oh Sorry. I was misremembering. I remembered the truth when you said it. Yes, he can be released for €75 million a year. There are at least 10 teams that will line up to pay this fee. So selling Haaland this year makes every sense. €150 million is a very good fee.  I hope Dortmund can sell it this year.  For that money they can get a very good striker.

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July 26, 2021, 02:43:11 PM
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I remembered the truth when you said it. Yes, he can be released for €75 million a year. There are at least 10 teams that will line up to pay this fee. So selling Haaland this year makes every sense. €150 million is a very good fee.  I hope Dortmund can sell it this year.  For that money they can get a very good striker.
If Dortmund can find a good offer about €150 million, they will sell Haaland immediately because they know Haaland will leave the club and they will have cheaper offer in the next two years.

Unfortunately, with financial sufferings from the pandemic, €150 million is very expensive, even the player is Haaland. Dortmund must announce cheaper transfer price for Haaland. €100 - 120 million is more realistic and feasible price for other clubs to buy Haaland.

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July 26, 2021, 06:07:01 PM
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I remembered the truth when you said it. Yes, he can be released for €75 million a year. There are at least 10 teams that will line up to pay this fee. So selling Haaland this year makes every sense. €150 million is a very good fee.  I hope Dortmund can sell it this year.  For that money they can get a very good striker.
If Dortmund can find a good offer about €150 million, they will sell Haaland immediately because they know Haaland will leave the club and they will have cheaper offer in the next two years.

Unfortunately, with financial sufferings from the pandemic, €150 million is very expensive, even the player is Haaland. Dortmund must announce cheaper transfer price for Haaland. €100 - 120 million is more realistic and feasible price for other clubs to buy Haaland.

Haaland's current market price is 130 million euros based on transfermarkt, rumors Chelsea are willing to pay but Dortmund are not willing to sell Haaland this season
It seems Dortmund are still ambitious with the title this season and Haaland is one of the proponents for that.

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July 26, 2021, 06:35:24 PM
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I remembered the truth when you said it. Yes, he can be released for €75 million a year. There are at least 10 teams that will line up to pay this fee. So selling Haaland this year makes every sense. €150 million is a very good fee.  I hope Dortmund can sell it this year.  For that money they can get a very good striker.
If Dortmund can find a good offer about €150 million, they will sell Haaland immediately because they know Haaland will leave the club and they will have cheaper offer in the next two years.

Unfortunately, with financial sufferings from the pandemic, €150 million is very expensive, even the player is Haaland. Dortmund must announce cheaper transfer price for Haaland. €100 - 120 million is more realistic and feasible price for other clubs to buy Haaland.

Haaland's current market price is 130 million euros based on transfermarkt, rumors Chelsea are willing to pay but Dortmund are not willing to sell Haaland this season
It seems Dortmund are still ambitious with the title this season and Haaland is one of the proponents for that.


If Dortmund wants to have any chance to compete for the title, they can't let Haaland go. If they let him go I would almost bet any amount of money that they are not going to be champion in the Bundesliga. Sancho is gone and if Haaland is also gone and two or three players might be injured during the season, it is definitely over.

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July 26, 2021, 08:06:38 PM
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To me, i see the Haaland situation as Dortmund refusing to sell up 2 core squad members in the same summer; it is not about the money involved, or the release clause in Haaland contract. It is about keeping the Dortmund squad competitive ahead of a new season.

On the other hand, the Player himself has shown no signs of wanting to leave, and ofcourse not to London. Dortmund would earn huge bucks from Haaland departure; either this summer or next summer
It is true that Haaland doesn't appear on rush to quit Dortmund as Mbappe on PSG but that doesn't mean that he wants to stay there until 2024 imo.
Dortmund is known to farm good players, I mean they pick future top players, make them stars then sell them and so on. They want to compete in European leagues, they want to have the Bundesliga title but they aren't spending a lot to do it.

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July 26, 2021, 10:15:23 PM
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To me, i see the Haaland situation as Dortmund refusing to sell up 2 core squad members in the same summer; it is not about the money involved, or the release clause in Haaland contract. It is about keeping the Dortmund squad competitive ahead of a new season.

On the other hand, the Player himself has shown no signs of wanting to leave, and ofcourse not to London. Dortmund would earn huge bucks from Haaland departure; either this summer or next summer
It is true that Haaland doesn't appear on rush to quit Dortmund as Mbappe on PSG but that doesn't mean that he wants to stay there until 2024 imo.
Dortmund is known to farm good players, I mean they pick future top players, make them stars then sell them and so on. They want to compete in European leagues, they want to have the Bundesliga title but they aren't spending a lot to do it.

After Brentford in England, Dortmund is another team that i cherish their business model; they run the club properly and competitively on or off the pitch; with set targets in place for every transfer window, as well as a tailored replacements for players too. MY predicition though is an Haaland move to Manchester United in the 2022 summer; while Mbappe gets his dream move to Real Madrid
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To me, i see the Haaland situation as Dortmund refusing to sell up 2 core squad members in the same summer; it is not about the money involved, or the release clause in Haaland contract. It is about keeping the Dortmund squad competitive ahead of a new season.
On the other hand, the Player himself has shown no signs of wanting to leave, and ofcourse not to London. Dortmund would earn huge bucks from Haaland departure; either this summer or next summer
It is true that Haaland doesn't appear on rush to quit Dortmund as Mbappe on PSG but that doesn't mean that he wants to stay there until 2024 imo.
Dortmund is known to farm good players, I mean they pick future top players, make them stars then sell them and so on. They want to compete in European leagues, they want to have the Bundesliga title but they aren't spending a lot to do it.
It seems that Mbappe is also in no hurry to leave Paris Saint-Germain in this transfer window and is happy to finalize the contract Grin Another question is that, unlike the situation with Haaland, after the end of his contract, Mbappe will become a free agent and, to the great pleasure of Real Madrid, you will not have to pay anything for the transfer Wink Borussia Dortmund need to think a lot before turning down lucrative offers for Haaland, because anything can happen and no one is immune from injuries or a drop in the level of play that is characteristic of many young players after a couple of successful seasons in the championship at an adult level.
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July 26, 2021, 11:20:08 PM
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To me, i see the Haaland situation as Dortmund refusing to sell up 2 core squad members in the same summer; it is not about the money involved, or the release clause in Haaland contract. It is about keeping the Dortmund squad competitive ahead of a new season.

On the other hand, the Player himself has shown no signs of wanting to leave, and ofcourse not to London. Dortmund would earn huge bucks from Haaland departure; either this summer or next summer
It is true that Haaland doesn't appear on rush to quit Dortmund as Mbappe on PSG but that doesn't mean that he wants to stay there until 2024 imo.
Dortmund is known to farm good players, I mean they pick future top players, make them stars then sell them and so on. They want to compete in European leagues, they want to have the Bundesliga title but they aren't spending a lot to do it.

After Brentford in England, Dortmund is another team that i cherish their business model; they run the club properly and competitively on or off the pitch; with set targets in place for every transfer window, as well as a tailored replacements for players too. MY predicition though is an Haaland move to Manchester United in the 2022 summer; while Mbappe gets his dream move to Real Madrid
Dortmund's business modus operandi is always very good but the rate at which they sell their best players every season is what I don't like.Every season Dortmund must sell their very best players to one of their biggest rival,which ends up affecting them.When these players leave,they always replace them well which is makes me think the club is really a business club.
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July 27, 2021, 11:04:14 AM
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To me, i see the Haaland situation as Dortmund refusing to sell up 2 core squad members in the same summer; it is not about the money involved, or the release clause in Haaland contract. It is about keeping the Dortmund squad competitive ahead of a new season.

On the other hand, the Player himself has shown no signs of wanting to leave, and ofcourse not to London. Dortmund would earn huge bucks from Haaland departure; either this summer or next summer
It is true that Haaland doesn't appear on rush to quit Dortmund as Mbappe on PSG but that doesn't mean that he wants to stay there until 2024 imo.
Dortmund is known to farm good players, I mean they pick future top players, make them stars then sell them and so on. They want to compete in European leagues, they want to have the Bundesliga title but they aren't spending a lot to do it.

After Brentford in England, Dortmund is another team that i cherish their business model; they run the club properly and competitively on or off the pitch; with set targets in place for every transfer window, as well as a tailored replacements for players too. MY predicition though is an Haaland move to Manchester United in the 2022 summer; while Mbappe gets his dream move to Real Madrid
Dortmund's business modus operandi is always very good but the rate at which they sell their best players every season is what I don't like.Every season Dortmund must sell their very best players to one of their biggest rival,which ends up affecting them.When these players leave,they always replace them well which is makes me think the club is really a business club.

I guess the rate or speed at which they sell their best players is also what Dortmund doesn't like, but do they have any choice? If you get an offer over 150 million in total for Ousmane Dembele, what the hell are you going to do as a club that is financially healthy, but far from being healthy as Bayern Munich? You have to sell. Dortmund does an outstanding job in recruiting young players and turning them into world stars, but they just can't pay the 20 million that Bayern can pay per year or clubs like Barcelona or Madrid, Paris or City.

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I guess the rate or speed at which they sell their best players is also what Dortmund doesn't like, but do they have any choice? If you get an offer over 150 million in total for Ousmane Dembele, what the hell are you going to do as a club that is financially healthy, but far from being healthy as Bayern Munich? You have to sell. Dortmund does an outstanding job in recruiting young players and turning them into world stars, but they just can't pay the 20 million that Bayern can pay per year or clubs like Barcelona or Madrid, Paris or City.

Dortmund's goal was never to win the title. They perform well enough throughout the season but can't win the title. Their main goal is to make a star player every year and sell him at a very high price. This is their business and they have been doing this for a long time.

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July 27, 2021, 03:05:25 PM
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The problem they have is that now they lack confidence massively and have enormous self-doubts. If they can't manage to get the situation under control quickly, I bet they are getting into serious trouble even in the second league. Other teams realize Schalke can be beaten and that raises optimism for any opponent Schalke is going to face. Rough times ahead of Schalke.

I wouldn't think it's that bad after the first game. In the past, it has been shown that all traditional clubs that have been relegated from the first league have had problems in the first games of the first season. In addition, they had Hamburg as an opponent who is also one of the top favorites for promotion. It will now depend on the next games for Schalke against Kiel and Aue. Schalke has to win these, otherwise they can get into a downward spiral again.
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July 28, 2021, 12:02:15 AM
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I guess the rate or speed at which they sell their best players is also what Dortmund doesn't like, but do they have any choice? If you get an offer over 150 million in total for Ousmane Dembele, what the hell are you going to do as a club that is financially healthy, but far from being healthy as Bayern Munich? You have to sell. Dortmund does an outstanding job in recruiting young players and turning them into world stars, but they just can't pay the 20 million that Bayern can pay per year or clubs like Barcelona or Madrid, Paris or City.

Dortmund's goal was never to win the title. They perform well enough throughout the season but can't win the title. Their main goal is to make a star player every year and sell him at a very high price. This is their business and they have been doing this for a long time.
This is really bad then,because they don't consider the feelings of their fans.Letting their star player go every season will be so annoying to those that don't understand that it's a business they have been doing for years now,and it is the reasons why they hardly win anything in the league..
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July 28, 2021, 08:21:05 AM
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This is really bad then,because they don't consider the feelings of their fans.Letting their star player go every season will be so annoying to those that don't understand that it's a business they have been doing for years now,and it is the reasons why they hardly win anything in the league..

could be bad, but their is also a fact that Bayern is too strong to beat, and Dortmund is always within top3 teams, with third team that accompanying Bayern and Dortmund constantly changing, since they are trying to beat Bayern, and could fight for year or two, but than eventually slide down to other half of the table, or Second league, just look at top teams that were trying to buy players and beat Bayern, they are always down - Schalke, Wolfsburg (get one title in the process), Stuttgart (won one title, but now in Second league), Werder (won one title, but now in Second league)

and Dortmund won three titles in last 20 years, and they are always within top, so, good tactics when you have one pre-dominant team (Bayern)
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This is really bad then,because they don't consider the feelings of their fans.Letting their star player go every season will be so annoying to those that don't understand that it's a business they have been doing for years now,and it is the reasons why they hardly win anything in the league..

could be bad, but their is also a fact that Bayern is too strong to beat, and Dortmund is always within top3 teams, with third team that accompanying Bayern and Dortmund constantly changing, since they are trying to beat Bayern, and could fight for year or two, but than eventually slide down to other half of the table, or Second league, just look at top teams that were trying to buy players and beat Bayern, they are always down - Schalke, Wolfsburg (get one title in the process), Stuttgart (won one title, but now in Second league), Werder (won one title, but now in Second league)

and Dortmund won three titles in last 20 years, and they are always within top, so, good tactics when you have one pre-dominant team (Bayern)
there must be at least two or three top teams in the championship to compete. competition makes you stronger and allows you to fight for international cups. Look at England. They were able to create competition in the Premier League and this made English clubs dominant in the Champions League and in the Europa League. And now they have no financial problems, unlike other teams. and can now buy good players at low prices.
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July 28, 2021, 01:51:26 PM
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Dortmund's goal was never to win the title. They perform well enough throughout the season but can't win the title. Their main goal is to make a star player every year and sell him at a very high price. This is their business and they have been doing this for a long time.
For sure there Goal is to win the title , but the problem is that they got no luck for it and played not at the best Level when they should .
Also there was a lot of players that was injured a bit at some stage , and that was there problem that they dont won games that would keep them into the race for the title.
There main goals are not to make or form star players , they only cant hold them when they are good becuase of the Big Clubs.

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July 28, 2021, 03:10:51 PM
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This is really bad then,because they don't consider the feelings of their fans.Letting their star player go every season will be so annoying to those that don't understand that it's a business they have been doing for years now,and it is the reasons why they hardly win anything in the league..

could be bad, but their is also a fact that Bayern is too strong to beat, and Dortmund is always within top3 teams, with third team that accompanying Bayern and Dortmund constantly changing, since they are trying to beat Bayern, and could fight for year or two, but than eventually slide down to other half of the table, or Second league, just look at top teams that were trying to buy players and beat Bayern, they are always down - Schalke, Wolfsburg (get one title in the process), Stuttgart (won one title, but now in Second league), Werder (won one title, but now in Second league)

and Dortmund won three titles in last 20 years, and they are always within top, so, good tactics when you have one pre-dominant team (Bayern)
there must be at least two or three top teams in the championship to compete. competition makes you stronger and allows you to fight for international cups. Look at England. They were able to create competition in the Premier League and this made English clubs dominant in the Champions League and in the Europa League. And now they have no financial problems, unlike other teams. and can now buy good players at low prices.

Premier League clubs are much richer than Bundesliga clubs. So there is more competition in the Premier League. There are many teams who are able to win the title. In the Bundesliga, on the other hand, every year we see the dominance of Bayern Munich. Bayern leads by more points than any other team.

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July 28, 2021, 03:17:27 PM
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Haaland seems to be shocked by the news that Chelsea are preparing to offer €175m for him. He thinks that it's really too much money for one person and he hopes that it's just a rumour.

It could be a rumour too but I'm very sure that Chelsea are going to offer a great sum to be able to sign Haaland.

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July 28, 2021, 03:41:53 PM
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Haaland seems to be shocked by the news that Chelsea are preparing to offer €175m for him. He thinks that it's really too much money for one person and he hopes that it's just a rumour.

It could be a rumour too but I'm very sure that Chelsea are going to offer a great sum to be able to sign Haaland.
I think it is a rumour that Chelsea wants to spend such price for one person but Dortmund fixing that price to chase other clubs from offering a lower price is true.
Haaland came from RBS for ~€20m which means in case they sold him for €175m = 875% profit, better than gambling Tongue

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July 28, 2021, 05:38:37 PM
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Haaland seems to be shocked by the news that Chelsea are preparing to offer €175m for him. He thinks that it's really too much money for one person and he hopes that it's just a rumour.

It could be a rumour too but I'm very sure that Chelsea are going to offer a great sum to be able to sign Haaland.
That is enormous amount of money, especially in these covid times. He is great player but that kind of money is just too much when you are unsure if you will be able to at least have a full stadium on home games. Chelsea started to do serius shopping in Germany, first Werner and Havertz and now Haaland Smiley

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July 28, 2021, 10:30:01 PM
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Haaland seems to be shocked by the news that Chelsea are preparing to offer €175m for him. He thinks that it's really too much money for one person and he hopes that it's just a rumour.

It could be a rumour too but I'm very sure that Chelsea are going to offer a great sum to be able to sign Haaland.
That is enormous amount of money, especially in these covid times. He is great player but that kind of money is just too much when you are unsure if you will be able to at least have a full stadium on home games. Chelsea started to do serius shopping in Germany, first Werner and Havertz and now Haaland Smiley

Despite Chelsea having the money to buy halland, i don't think Chelsea eill splash the cash on halland, taking a good look at how things is playing,i dont think they'll sign him from Dortmund.this season.
Putting pressure on Werner to give he's best this season,once he starts scoring goals the movement for halland will drastically be of no use.

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