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May 09, 2024, 08:43:51 PM
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It is true that it is very likely that football fans throughout Germany will support Dortmund in the UCL final, but facing Madrid in the final is not an easy thing, especially since Madrid is always the winner in every match in the UCL.
German fans should support Dortmund, it is normal, mate.  Grin
No, Real Madrid isn't always winning UCL final. Real Madrid could reach the final UCL 17 times, and they only lost 3 final matches.
However, the most interesting thing that Real Madrid always won the final matches since 1981.

References:
1. https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/Headline/How-many-UCL-finals-have-Real-Madrid-played-in-and-how-many-have-they-won/3374360
2. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40110912/champions-league-final-early-look-real-madrid-borussia-dortmund

Tomorrow Dortmund will face Mainz, this is quite an important match for Dortmund, don't let Dortmund's main players get injured in this match, Terzic will definitely field Dortmund's reserve players in this match.
I think it is not a really important match because Dortmund must finish the season in the top 5, they are safe in UCL zone. And Dortmund should win the match, Mainz is a weak team and they are even in relegation zone. Dortmund must be careful with Mainz, it is a home match for Mainz and they must try to get full points in order to get out from the relegation zone. If they can beat Dortmund, they have a chance to finish in 15th place.

I read that they are willing to spend over 100 million for a player and in this case the talk was about Wirtz. As a midfielder with 22 scorer points and 20 years old, it is risky I think. But competition will be there in the transfer market and Bayern might have no other chance but to pay that much. I was sceptic about the Bellingham transfer as it was more than 100 million I think, but looking back it did pay off for Real Madrid. On the one hand you want such a player when they are that good and that young, on the other hand there is some financial downside risk. But I am surprised that some Bayern official talks about it publicly because now he himself set a price tag.
Bayern Munich may have enough money to pay Wirtz but he seems to stay in Leverkusen if Xabi Alonso still becomes the coach of Leverkusen. Xabi Alonso won't let Wirtz to move to Bayern Munich, he is the mainstay player of Leverkusen. Honestly, I'm also surprised with this issue because I don't see a chance of this player to leave Leverkusen in the near future. Why Bayern talks about this?  Huh


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May 09, 2024, 09:11:23 PM
Last edit: May 13, 2024, 09:52:05 AM by tusandii
 #51622


It is true that it is very likely that football fans throughout Germany will support Dortmund in the UCL final, but facing Madrid in the final is not an easy thing, especially since Madrid is always the winner in every match in the UCL.

Tomorrow Dortmund will face Mainz, this is quite an important match for Dortmund, don't let Dortmund's main players get injured in this match, Terzic will definitely field Dortmund's reserve players in this match.
Yes, it won't be easy to beat Real Madrid, but we have to remember how Manchester City gave an unexpected surprise last season and this could be Dortmund's motivation to be more enthusiastic about winning the Champions League title and most importantly, maintaining the quality of players is now much more important.
I agree with you that Terzic will definitely prioritize the UCL matches and will give the main players a little more rest even though the results are bad in the Bundesliga. The most important thing is that the UCL will be Dortmund's priority.

What I thought became something real when Dortmund had to appear with reserve players and ended up losing points in the match against Mainz.
This is not something bad, but whatever the result is, Dortmund is ready to accept it because as I said before, Dortmund will prefer to focus on the Champions League match and that will be a very important match.
The defeat against Mainz will not disappoint the fans but everyone already understands Dortmund's goal this season to win the UCL title which is considered a more important title than 3 points in the Bundesliga.

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May 09, 2024, 10:00:05 PM
 #51623

Tomorrow Dortmund will face Mainz, this is quite an important match for Dortmund, don't let Dortmund's main players get injured in this match, Terzic will definitely field Dortmund's reserve players in this match.
Yes, now Dortmund must focus on returning to the Bundesliga because after all this is not over yet. Meanwhile they have to continue to struggle in the Bundesliga, because their position is also not good enough here. Dortmund is in 5th position. Yes, even though the club is still qualified for the next UCL, but at last they must maintain their position in the top 5. They still have opponents Mainz and Darmstadt and this shouldn't be a problem, and in fact it seems that the opponents this time for Dortmund are quite easy to defeat actually.

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May 09, 2024, 10:06:34 PM
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Yes, it won't be easy to beat Real Madrid, but we have to remember how Manchester City gave an unexpected surprise last season and this could be Dortmund's motivation to be more enthusiastic about winning the Champions League title and most importantly, maintaining the quality of players is now much more important.
I agree with you that Terzic will definitely prioritize the UCL matches and will give the main players a little more rest even though the results are bad in the Bundesliga. The most important thing is that the UCL will be Dortmund's priority.

Manchester City is not the same as Dortmund, obviously, and you should know that. Manchester City were performing very well last season, while Dortmund are not, so you can’t compare what Manchester City did last season to what is about to happen between Real Madrid and Dortmund. However, even with the motivation, I don’t see any performance with Dortmund that will give them any hope of winning Real Madrid at the moment. Even Manchester City made it this way because they were in their best form that season.

So for me, I cannot guarantee Real Madrid winning this match, but honestly, Dortmund are not in a position to win them, and I believe they will not. Real Madrid have been consistently winning matches with even stronger Dortmund, so I doubt if they can concur. 

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May 09, 2024, 11:32:31 PM
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Tomorrow Dortmund will face Mainz, this is quite an important match for Dortmund, don't let Dortmund's main players get injured in this match, Terzic will definitely field Dortmund's reserve players in this match.
Yes, now Dortmund must focus on returning to the Bundesliga because after all this is not over yet. Meanwhile they have to continue to struggle in the Bundesliga, because their position is also not good enough here. Dortmund is in 5th position. Yes, even though the club is still qualified for the next UCL, but at last they must maintain their position in the top 5. They still have opponents Mainz and Darmstadt and this shouldn't be a problem, and in fact it seems that the opponents this time for Dortmund are quite easy to defeat actually.
Dortmund progressing to Champions League final is helping themself to make up for their struggle in the league. Bundesliga having three teams in european competitions, two in Champions League and one in Europa League, is resulting their representation in Champions League, which means Bundesliga will have five teams in Champions League next season. This also means Dortmund just need one point to qualify for Champions League spot next season.

However, Dortmund still need to play their last games in serious manner to secure the ticket for the Champions League next season and also to maintain their determination and rhythm of the game. They need to take those games as preparation to play against Real Madrid in Champions League Final. They have chance to make history by being the first team to beat Real Madrid in UEFA Champions League final.   

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May 09, 2024, 11:49:24 PM
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However, Dortmund still need to play their last games in serious manner to secure the ticket for the Champions League next season and also to maintain their determination and rhythm of the game. They need to take those games as preparation to play against Real Madrid in Champions League Final. They have chance to make history by being the first team to beat Real Madrid in UEFA Champions League final.   
The Bundesliga need to be proud because it has produced two teams that are in the major finals of two top European competitions which are;
 the Champions League and
 the Europa competition.

If Leverkusen can win the Europa, and Dortmund win the champions league, then it is a German year. Leverkusen however look more likely to be a better representative of Germany than Dortmund due to how well they always a way to win or not to loose.

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May 09, 2024, 11:50:05 PM
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Manchester City is not the same as Dortmund, obviously, and you should know that. Manchester City were performing very well last season, while Dortmund are not, so you can’t compare what Manchester City did last season to what is about to happen between Real Madrid and Dortmund. However, even with the motivation, I don’t see any performance with Dortmund that will give them any hope of winning Real Madrid at the moment. Even Manchester City made it this way because they were in their best form that season.
True. The condition between Man City and Dortmund are different. Man City performed well in domestic league, they have a chance to win EPL trophy this season. Sadly, they were defeated by Real Madrid because they were unlucky.  Grin But for Dortmund, they experienced bad season in domestic league. Dortmund is only in the 5th place, they are lucky still in UCL zone. With this condition, I honestly doubt that Dortmund can defeat Real Madrid because their squad isn't quite stable in this season. Even if they could reach the final round in UCL, I guess they are lucky because they didn't meet Real Madrid in the previous rounds.

So for me, I cannot guarantee Real Madrid winning this match, but honestly, Dortmund are not in a position to win them, and I believe they will not. Real Madrid have been consistently winning matches with even stronger Dortmund, so I doubt if they can concur.
No one can guarantee which team to be the winner in UCL final match. UCL final match will be always unpredictable although the stats of Real Madrid final UCL looks very convincingly. When Real Madrid could be in the final UCL, they mostly won it. Real Madrid already did it many times, it lasted for many years and in many seasons of UCL. According to the stats, it is clear Real Madrid should be the champion.



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May 10, 2024, 12:54:59 AM
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Dortmund actually has a chance to win the UCL title this season if they are able to find gaps in Madrid's weaknesses and can steal a lucky goal, although it doesn't seem easy to do that. if we look at it in terms of strength, Madrid is much more experienced than Dortmund and I think Madrid will easily do it and win this match perfectly to get their 15th UCL trophy this season, so far Ancelotti's men have reached this point, it's impossible they will let Dortmund beat them. Moreover, Vini and her friends are also quite ready for the final match.
It's true that Dortmund has minor chances to win this UCL final against one of the best team ever in history of UCL named real Madrid so things will be quite difficult for them to settle down but one things we should keep in mind that nothing is permanent I mean it's not compulsory that strong side will always has dominance over weak side but its totally depend on current day performance and tactics so Dortmund can change history by beating them and to be honest it will not be much tough for them than beating PSG. So just like they done in his previous matches one single more victory will change thier life's and it will be one of the best retirement gift for Marco Reus because it's his last match and season in Borussia Dortmund. Anyway let see how they manage things and get a spectacular victory..

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However, Dortmund still need to play their last games in serious manner to secure the ticket for the Champions League next season and also to maintain their determination and rhythm of the game. They need to take those games as preparation to play against Real Madrid in Champions League Final. They have chance to make history by being the first team to beat Real Madrid in UEFA Champions League final.   
The Bundesliga need to be proud because it has produced two teams that are in the major finals of two top European competitions which are;
 the Champions League and
 the Europa competition.

If Leverkusen can win the Europa, and Dortmund win the champions league, then it is a German year. Leverkusen however look more likely to be a better representative of Germany than Dortmund due to how well they always a way to win or not to loose.
For the Europa League, I think they will get it, but for the Champions League I think they will fail. The reason is that the opponent they will face is Real Madrid. We know that Real Madrid is a team with superior status if we compare it with Borussia Dortmund. They have to work harder to beat Real Madrid and that is not an easy thing.

In the European League they have representatives, namely Leverkusen. Their representatives in the Europa League are a team that is unbeaten to date and the opponents they will face are also no better than them. I don't mean to underestimate Atalanta, but if we compare their performance this season, we will know who is better between the two teams that will meet. But apart from all that, this is a success for the Bundesliga because they can compete very well in European competitions. Even if Bayern Munich can beat Real Madrid then there will be a German derby in the Champions League this season.

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The Bundesliga need to be proud because it has produced two teams that are in the major finals of two top European competitions which are;
 the Champions League and
 the Europa competition.

If Leverkusen can win the Europa, and Dortmund win the champions league, then it is a German year. Leverkusen however look more likely to be a better representative of Germany than Dortmund due to how well they always a way to win or not to loose.
Leverkusen and Dortmund managed to enter the final of European competitions in two different competitions, Leverkusen, who had just broken Bayern Munich dominance after successfully winning the race for the Bundesliga title, managed to enter the final round of the Europa League. Meanwhile, Dortmund, which is still having difficulty competing in the hunt for the Bundesliga title, managed to enter the Champions League final. Leverkusen has a great chance of winning their second title this season based on their very consistent performance, the luck that always comes their way means they can still avoid defeat.

Dortmund might experience a different fate because the opponents they face are stronger than them, although anything can still happen in football, Dortmund will have difficulty beating Real Madrid. It is unimaginable if Leverkusen and Dortmund succeed in bringing the UEL and UCL trophies to Germany, then this year will be a beautiful year for teams from Germany, the two of them will also meet each other to compete for the European Super Cup.

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May 10, 2024, 11:44:35 AM
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It is true that it is very likely that football fans throughout Germany will support Dortmund in the UCL final, but facing Madrid in the final is not an easy thing, especially since Madrid is always the winner in every match in the UCL.

Tomorrow Dortmund will face Mainz, this is quite an important match for Dortmund, don't let Dortmund's main players get injured in this match, Terzic will definitely field Dortmund's reserve players in this match.
The match against Mainz appears to be important to them but then I think Dortmund will not risk their key players for the game because somehow they may not have much to loose from that game because it's not going to have much effect on their position on the table and how well they are going to end the season in the German bundesliga but then the champions league is such that they have to give their very best if they will be able to get a chance at it.

Mainz isn't a team that will actually get to be a problem to Dortmund that much because they aren't of equals strength with Dortmund especially if Dortmund wants to bring their champions league performance to their domestic league I don't think Mainz will even get to see a draw by the end of the game but then Dortmund will most definitely be channeling all their efforts into preparations for the finals of the champions league which they have been able to so far made it through to, Dortmund know that this isn't a season fort them in the bundealiga so they better Chanel their energy to where they think they have got a chance.

The whole of Germany is most definitely going to support Dortmund in the champions league finals because that's the only representation they have got in the champions league at this time this season so they would want to give them the support with the hope the trophy comas to Germany as it's gone to Spain more often then it has been to Germany and even some other football fans away from Dortmund fans are definitely going to be supporting Dortmund having been able to have gotten this far.

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Bayern Munich failure in the Champions League could continue to have a negative impact on their performance in the Bundesliga. Remembering that Stuttgart will play a match that aims to take the runner up position which is currently occupied by Bayern Munich with 69 points. Meanwhile if Stuttgart manages to get 3 points from the match against Augsburg, it will have 70 points. Bayern will face Wolfsburg even though on paper Bayern Munich is superior, but I am quite worried that their spirit will no longer be able to be shown. Because there is nothing they can achieve this season, Bayern Munich is in a very worrying condition. Clarity regarding Tuchel fate seems to be complete that he will soon be fired.

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May 10, 2024, 01:52:17 PM
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Bayern Munich failure in the Champions League could continue to have a negative impact on their performance in the Bundesliga. Remembering that Stuttgart will play a match that aims to take the runner up position which is currently occupied by Bayern Munich with 69 points. Meanwhile if Stuttgart manages to get 3 points from the match against Augsburg, it will have 70 points. Bayern will face Wolfsburg even though on paper Bayern Munich is superior, but I am quite worried that their spirit will no longer be able to be shown. Because there is nothing they can achieve this season, Bayern Munich is in a very worrying condition. Clarity regarding Tuchel fate seems to be complete that he will soon be fired.
In general, after being eliminated from the Champions League, Bayern Munich will experience frustration and it will be very difficult to focus on the remaining Bundesliga matches. Moreover, they are aware that they have not won a single title this season so that will further erode their mentality.

From the start, Stuttgart has been a fierce competitor for Bayern Munich and next time they will definitely try to finish in second place in the standings and make Bayern Munich even more devastated. There is not much that Bayern Munich can do and Wolfsburg will definitely use Bayern Munich's guilt to their advantage later. Tuchel no longer has hope and, moreover, several months ago he stated that he had resigned at the end of the season as coach of Bayern Munich.

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May 10, 2024, 02:24:35 PM
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Bayern Munich failure in the Champions League could continue to have a negative impact on their performance in the Bundesliga. Remembering that Stuttgart will play a match that aims to take the runner up position which is currently occupied by Bayern Munich with 69 points. Meanwhile if Stuttgart manages to get 3 points from the match against Augsburg, it will have 70 points. Bayern will face Wolfsburg even though on paper Bayern Munich is superior, but I am quite worried that their spirit will no longer be able to be shown. Because there is nothing they can achieve this season, Bayern Munich is in a very worrying condition. Clarity regarding Tuchel fate seems to be complete that he will soon be fired.
Bayern Munich has been eliminated from all competitions they are currently participating in, Bayern Munich failure in the Champions League certainly can no longer lift the morale of players because indeed for the next Bayern Munich only has the remaining matches without any targets they can achieve again, Bayern Munich painfully eliminated from the Champions League this season even though that is the only hope from Tuchel to be able to win the championship trophy title this season,  This week match is just to fight for second place but that does not mean Munich will play with high intensity in the match, because indeed the position number is no longer important for Munich as long as they can remain in the top 5 to play in the Champions League next season.

I think for now Tuchel only needs to wait for the time for the dismissal he will receive, this season only leaves 2 games left and it means sooner or later of course Munich will officially announce Tuchel dismissal because indeed Munich has been making competition in the Champions League as a reason to keep Tuchel this season, so that when Munich no longer play in the Champions League of course Tuchel future in Munich has ended.

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May 10, 2024, 02:31:40 PM
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Stuttgart will fight against Augsburg today and Stuttgart is really in the good shape because they were unbeated in the last 2 matches even the latest is Stuttgart can able to overcomes Bayern Munich with final scores 3-1 and i know their position on League Table is safe because certainly Stuttgart will playing at Champion League next season but because Stuttgart only have 2 points below to Bayern Munich then if they can win for next 2 matches remaining then there is possibility for them to taking over runner up place from Bayern Munich

As a host Augsburg conditions is not really good because they were suffering 3 losing streak and the latest is Augsburg was lost with big scores from Dortmund 5-1 and about head to head statistics i can see Stuttgart has good records from Augsburg because from 5 meetings Stuttgart can gets 3 wins and only lost once from Augsburg

About squad conditions from both teams Augsburg conditions is not really good because at least 4 players from them will be absense because of injured including their main goalkeeper Finn Dahmen and i think losing him will have big impact for Augsburg performance later because for goalkeeper position previously Augsburg always be rely on him and for Stuttgart their condition is much better than Augsburg because there was no key players from them who got injured and Stuttgart main striker Serhou Guirassy will be available today and considering recent condition from Stuttgart which much better than Augsburg then my predictions is Stuttgart will be the winner of this match and Stuttgart win has odds @1.75

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May 10, 2024, 03:41:26 PM
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In general, after being eliminated from the Champions League, Bayern Munich will experience frustration and it will be very difficult to focus on the remaining Bundesliga matches. Moreover, they are aware that they have not won a single title this season so that will further erode their mentality.

From the start, Stuttgart has been a fierce competitor for Bayern Munich and next time they will definitely try to finish in second place in the standings and make Bayern Munich even more devastated. There is not much that Bayern Munich can do and Wolfsburg will definitely use Bayern Munich's guilt to their advantage later. Tuchel no longer has hope and, moreover, several months ago he stated that he had resigned at the end of the season as coach of Bayern Munich.
Munich have been officially eliminated from the Champions League this season and their hopes of winning the trophy are of course no longer there, now Munich will only focus on the Bundesliga this season to secure their position as runners up at the end of the season, Bayern Munich remaining two games this season are only against Wolfsburg and also Hoffenheim which is relatively easier for them to beat,  Although Bayern Munich may fail to finish runners-up at the end of the season, but still at this time their position and chances to play in the Champions League have been very safe and will not be usurped by other teams in the Bundesliga.

The competition for the runner up position is between Stuttgart and also Bayern Munich, but after the defeat to Madrid before, of course it is difficult to say if Bayern Munich mentality and performance have improved again at this time, I think Bayern Munich current condition is so bad that maybe they will lose points even if they face weak teams like Hoffenheim or Wolfsburg later and make Stuttgart will be more free to be able to take second place from Munich and keep it until the season ends.

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May 10, 2024, 03:44:25 PM
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When we look at the teams which have officially relegated we only see Darmstadt. However maybe not official yet but Koln are very likely to say goodbye anytime as well. The interesting thing is they are hosting Union Berlin with whom they need to drop the gap by 3 more points to keep their hopes for the final week.  Smiley

But it depends on what Mainz will do on one hand. They are going to host Dortmund which have already secured the Champions League ticket. Even if Mainz get one point it is going to be really difficult for Koln to get past them mathematically.  Sad

I think Koln will also relegate directly. It is tough to predict the play-out position. I will continue with Mainz for that.

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May 10, 2024, 04:13:59 PM
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One of the two teams in the German league lost last night's match against Real Madrid in the last minute and now only waits for the match in Dortmund to see how they perform. Bayern Munich almost came close to winning but they unexpectedly lost in the end. In a match different from the semi-final against PSG, Dortmund, the only team in the German league, will enter the field, although this team is already one goal ahead of PSG at the end of the first leg. If the German league can defeat PSG in the second leg to secure the Champions League final, the fans of every team in the German league will probably support Dortmund in their league. Now it remains to be seen whether they can overcome the obstacles of the second leg match well.

It is true that it is very likely that football fans throughout Germany will support Dortmund in the UCL final, but facing Madrid in the final is not an easy thing, especially since Madrid is always the winner in every match in the UCL.

Tomorrow Dortmund will face Mainz, this is quite an important match for Dortmund, don't let Dortmund's main players get injured in this match, Terzic will definitely field Dortmund's reserve players in this match.
Its tough to lose to Real Madrid in the final. Its one of the hardest things you can do. But look, outsiders always win. Remember last year when Man City won? Everyone was shocked! Dortmund needs to focus on that; they can pull off the surprise. The Terzic team is likely to rest some players for the game against Mainz. Trust me, thats the smart move. Theres no need to hurt yourself right before the BIG game. Even though Mainz is nice, the Champions League is the real deal. Its not going to change much tomorrow, Bundesliga or not. The goal is to give the backups a chance to play and keep the big stars ready to ROCK the final. We're going for the long haul here; Dortmund can win this if they pay attention.

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May 10, 2024, 04:16:17 PM
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I read that they are willing to spend over 100 million for a player and in this case the talk was about Wirtz. As a midfielder with 22 scorer points and 20 years old, it is risky I think.
But I am surprised that some Bayern official talks about it publicly because now he himself set a price tag.
They maybe are talking about , but i guess that Wirtz will be not leave Leverkusen after this season and will stay in Leverkusen.
Also i think that Bayern Munich dont will spend 100 to 150 Mil for one player after this season.
At the moment i guess Wirtz is worth around that Amount of money , the Bellingham transfer was a different Story from Dortmund.

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May 10, 2024, 04:27:04 PM
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I read that they are willing to spend over 100 million for a player and in this case the talk was about Wirtz. As a midfielder with 22 scorer points and 20 years old, it is risky I think.
But I am surprised that some Bayern official talks about it publicly because now he himself set a price tag.
They maybe are talking about , but i guess that Wirtz will be not leave Leverkusen after this season and will stay in Leverkusen.
Also i think that Bayern Munich dont will spend 100 to 150 Mil for one player after this season.
At the moment i guess Wirtz is worth around that Amount of money , the Bellingham transfer was a different Story from Dortmund.
The truth is that many of the Bayer Leverkusen players are surely going to get juicy and tempting offers from the big clubs in Europe during the summer transfer window because of their incredible performances this season and one of those players I expect to become a sought-after player in the summer transfer window is German international Florian Wirtz who's been immense with his performances this season. The truth is that we aren't sure if he'll reject to join other clubs when those offers are tabled before him. It's very possible that the midfielder will remain at Bayer Leverkusen beyond the current season and it's also very possible that he may likely leave the club in the summer. But whatever happens in the future, the good thing is that Bayer Leverkusen manager will remain as the club manager for next season campaign.

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