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May 22, 2024, 11:01:58 PM
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What do you guys think of Leverkusen getting a proper beating from Atalanta and ending their 51 games without a loss streak? Will this affect their performance next season? Do you consider them to be the favourite to defend their title (if no major changes to the team are made)?

I think it was a sobering reality check and a signal that they need to continue working hard to repeat their success and nothing will be given to them for free. There was almost something magical about their undefeated streak, especially given the 3 recent 90+ minute equalisers, which could create an impression that there's some higher power behind them preventing them from losing. They might have believed it a little bit too much and got a cold shower.

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May 22, 2024, 11:39:06 PM
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I understand your point about Harry Kane's luck, but Bayern's difficulties arent his fault. The guy is killing it in his debut season with the team. He leads Bundesliga scoring! This is no easy feat for a rookie player to the league and organization. After years of dominance, Bayern losing the crown is frustrating. Kane's injury against Real Madrid is disappointing. I dont think it means he's cursed. Football sometimes works like way. Kane should prioritize his recovery and return stronger than ever. Perhaps he'll lead England to Euro 2024 victory!
I don't know friends, we don't know what really happened to Bayern Munich at this time which suddenly their performance dropped drastically, even in the last 10 seasons I see if Munich has never experienced a slump like what happened this season, Kane who has been the top scorer at Tottenham came at the wrong time, so indeed he was linked to the failure of Bayern Munich this season which is considered by Kane as a player who has zero champions,  For now we cannot deny this assumption if indeed Kane is not able to lead Bayern Munich to win the Bundesliga next season, next season is an opportunity for Kane to break all bad perceptions from fans towards him by winning the trophy with Munich.

Not only at the club, Kane also had bad luck in the England national team because he had never won a championship, and this season reportedly Kane also regained a place in the national team squad, but I think it seems that Kane will miss a long time and will miss euro 2024 due to his injury, reportedly Tuchel before being sacked he has confirmed,if Kane will be absent due to his severe injury and of course it is very detrimental to the England national team which will soon be Compete at Euro 2024.

We already knew he was going to leave Bayern Munich. Tuchel joined Bayern Munich to help this team have better performance during the Champions League because of the experience he had in Chelsea the Champions League and that is why they used this coach. But the fact about Tuche was about the bad performance he had in Bayern Munich made them lose the Bundesliga title after ten years of winning it.
On the other hand, Tuchel had a bad relationship with many players in Bayern Munich and this made Bayern Muhch to stop working with this coach.


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May 22, 2024, 11:43:13 PM
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What do you guys think of Leverkusen getting a proper beating from Atalanta and ending their 51 games without a loss streak? Will this affect their performance next season? Do you consider them to be the favourite to defend their title (if no major changes to the team are made)?
Nothing surprises here. People were underestimating atalanta with its parking bus combined with high pressing. Look at how lookman destroyed leverkusen with decent scores. Bayern leverkusen is playing so badly against high pressing strategy from gasperini.

Atalanta has very good resources to play defensively and high press. The strategy used by leverkusen is just getting countered back by gasperini. Atalanta has been showing very good high pressing against leverkuen. They deserved it.

Other club can copy and paste atalanta's strategy in order to beat leverkusen with their xabi ball.


I think it was a sobering reality check and a signal that they need to continue working hard to repeat their success and nothing will be given to them for free. There was almost something magical about their undefeated streak, especially given the 3 recent 90+ minute equalisers, which could create an impression that there's some higher power behind them preventing them from losing. They might have believed it a little bit too much and got a cold shower.
It's only happening when leverkusen faces the bundesliga team. Things may be different when it was facing a club how to counter it like atalanta. Congrats for all of atalnta bettors. You guys got decent return from betting on atalanta.

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May 23, 2024, 02:57:59 AM
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That move might be possible but in the media, I see more talks about Joshua Kimmich from Bayern Munich or Rodri from Manchester City. The first might be a good option since his contract will expire in one year in Bavaria while Rodri seems to be hard to pick since his contract with Man City will expire in three years..
I think that Real Madrid will tend to pick another player from Germany to continue with the good vibes in the midfield Wink
It's not enough just to bring in Mbappe, it turns out that Real Madrid is also interested in bringing in the best German player. Florian Wirtz is the best player in Germany this season. He is a midfielder who has contributed greatly to Leverkusen. He provides many goal opportunities and helps players create opportunities. He really deserves to be crowned. as the best player this season in the Bundesliga. Real Madrid is interested in him, meaning Real Madrid must buy this player at the price agreed by Leverkusen because it seems like Leverkusen is willing to sell this player considering his improving performance and will get big profits if he sells this player to a big club like Real Madrid and it will be a matter of pride for Florian Wirtz if he plays for this big European club.

Even though he sold his best player, Xabi Alonso has to look for other options to bring in a good midfielder to replace Florian Wirtz because if Leverkusen doesn't recruit better players, their performance next season will be affected because they will be competing in the Champions League and of course with more difficult competition in compare European League Xabi Alonso has to recruit players who will perform well next season and hopefully he makes the right choice.
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May 23, 2024, 03:12:37 AM
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We already knew he was going to leave Bayern Munich. Tuchel joined Bayern Munich to help this team have better performance during the Champions League because of the experience he had in Chelsea the Champions League and that is why they used this coach. But the fact about Tuche was about the bad performance he had in Bayern Munich made them lose the Bundesliga title after ten years of winning it.
On the other hand, Tuchel had a bad relationship with many players in Bayern Munich and this made Bayern Muhch to stop working with this coach.
Winning Champions League is not easy and we can see how long Real Madrid waited to win their Decima, the tenth Champions League title. It takes Real Madrid 11 years to get only one more Champions League title, from 2001 - 2002 season to 2013 - 2014 season. Tuchel could do his job bad and not as good as Bayern Munich expected from him but they must be realistic too, it's not easy to win Champions League.

List of Real Madrid's Champions League titles.

They possibly made a good decision to stop working with Tuchel because with his bad relationship with many players, it's hard for him to work with these players and improve Bayern Munich performances next season.

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May 23, 2024, 03:20:44 AM
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What do you guys think of Leverkusen getting a proper beating from Atalanta and ending their 51 games without a loss streak? Will this affect their performance next season? Do you consider them to be the favourite to defend their title (if no major changes to the team are made)?

I think it was a sobering reality check and a signal that they need to continue working hard to repeat their success and nothing will be given to them for free. There was almost something magical about their undefeated streak, especially given the 3 recent 90+ minute equalisers, which could create an impression that there's some higher power behind them preventing them from losing. They might have believed it a little bit too much and got a cold shower.

Well, the truth is that it is something very impressive, because I personally have always said something, Leverkusen made history in the Bundesliga, and that is something that cannot be taken away from me, what happened with Atalanta left me impressed, and it is for my job that I couldn't even make a strong bet, because I wanted to make a good bet in favor of Leverkusen, I Couldn't do it, but this is an example that you have to work hard, this team was surprising in every way By the way, Xabi Alonso still has a lot of work to do, we should not rely on local achievements, always when facing teams from other leagues they can make a difference and even more so in a final , it really is something that surprises but there is no harm second place.

Atalanta 3-0 Bayer Leverkusen: Goals, highlights and report – Europa League Final 2023/24



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Atalanta secured a first European trophy in their history with a dominant 3-0 victory over Bayer Leverkusen in the 2023/24 UEFA Europa League final at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin on Wednesday night and ended the Bundesliga champion’s unbeaten run in all competitions this season.

Attacker Ademola Lookman stood out on the night by scoring an astonishing hat-trick for the Serie A club, but overall it was a near perfect performance from all wearing the Nerazzurri shirt in Ireland, as the German team suffered their first loss in 51 games.

Source: https://total-italianfootball.com/atalanta-bayer-leverkusen-goals-highlights-report-europa-league-23-24/




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Well, the truth is that it is something very impressive, because I personally have always said something, Leverkusen made history in the Bundesliga, and that is something that cannot be taken away from me
Leverkusen made history in both Bundesliga with a perfectly complete unbeaten season but their season is not perfect by this defeat in Europa League final. No three titles, no perfect unbeaten season in all competitions when they only have 2 last matches to get it.

Anyway the final ended, the unbeaten streak was broken, a title was lost but they will still have one last match, one more final match to play and get one more title. It's interesting to guess how Xabi Alonso and his players will return next season and will they make another shock next season in Champions League.

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what happened with Atalanta left me impressed, and it is for my job that I couldn't even make a strong bet, because I wanted to make a good bet in favor of Leverkusen, I Couldn't do it, but this is an example that you have to work hard, this team was surprising in every way

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Gasperini is more experienced than Xabi Alonso and this defeat of Leverkusen reminds me how Xabi Alonso failed last season in Europa League when he faced with Jose Mourinho. Xabi is a very talented young coach but he still need to improve a lot to win in knock out matches like this.

Gasperini has a happy ending with Atalanta because he will leave Atalanta after this season. Rumor says he will be appointed as a new coach of Napoli in coming days.

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Bochum vs Düsseldorf
A two match play out series to qualify for next season's Bundesliga begins. Bochum, who finished the regular season in 16th place in the Bundesliga, will play their first match against Fortuna Düsseldorf, who finished 3rd in Bundesliga 2. Bochum had shown a very poor defensive performance in the last weeks of the season and had lost their last four league matches by different scores.

Düsseldorf, on the other hand, surprised everyone by going undefeated in the last 14 weeks of the season, even though they had mediocre performances at times during the season. It would not be surprising if Düsseldorf, who are also in good form, make it difficult for their opponents in this match. Düsseldorf, who are looking for a return to the Bundesliga, can take advantage of the first game and then triumph at home in the second game. My prediction for this match is a draw or a Düsseldorf victory.

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May 23, 2024, 06:15:58 AM
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I want to collect how many people predicted the final match of the UEFA Europe League wrongly? Because, for me, the results were quite surprising and unexpected. Yes, even though Atalanta is not a small team, looking at the situation, they really deserved to win. Atalanta can play very effectively. Meanwhile, Leverkusen, as usual, but this day, when it is being in a very crucial match and special momentum, they just played the ball without being able to score a goal. Poorly like this.

Leverkusen has failed to maintain their unbeaten record. but, I also still appreciate of their achievement this season. because they are progressing significantly, surprising most people, and now the final result is also surprising.
Perhaps almost all football fans in the world predict Leverkusen will win this match, because of their excellent performance and reputation this season. However, in fact, the results of the UEFA Europa League final match this time made many people surprised and disappointed with the final result of the match. Atalanta really showed a very good performance in their game and proved their toughness in attacking the Leverkusen defense and in the end Atalanta won the match. However, as stated, Leverkusen seemed unable to take advantage of this important momentum and failed to score a goal in this crucial match. This shows how unpredictable football is and always brings surprises to everyone.
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May 23, 2024, 06:41:19 AM
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What do you guys think of Leverkusen getting a proper beating from Atalanta and ending their 51 games without a loss streak? Will this affect their performance next season? Do you consider them to be the favourite to defend their title (if no major changes to the team are made)?

I think it was a sobering reality check and a signal that they need to continue working hard to repeat their success and nothing will be given to them for free. There was almost something magical about their undefeated streak, especially given the 3 recent 90+ minute equalisers, which could create an impression that there's some higher power behind them preventing them from losing. They might have believed it a little bit too much and got a cold shower.
This was quite a disappointing result for Leverkusen because they had to end their unbeaten record and that happened in the final which meant they failed to become champions of the Europa League this season. They also had to lose by a fairly heavy score of 3 goals without reply, so that made them suffer a painful defeat in this match.

This is something they have to fix, because now it seems that other teams are also aware of the weak points that they can exploit, so Atalanta is the first team to be able to do that. I think other teams will also learn what Atalanta did in this match so that they will apply it when they face Leverkusen next season.

However, even though they lost and failed to become champions, it did not reduce their extraordinary performance for a full season, it was just a bit of disappointment because they failed to give their best to make them achieve the treble winners this season.

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May 23, 2024, 08:00:29 AM
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Leverkusen made history in both Bundesliga with a perfectly complete unbeaten season but their season is not perfect by this defeat in Europa League final. No three titles, no perfect unbeaten season in all competitions when they only have 2 last matches to get it.

Even though Leverkusen suffered defeat in the Europa League, in my opinion, Leverkusen has done their best so that they can be at that peak point, because with Leverkusen having made new history in the Bundesliga, of course that is already good and must be appreciated by other teams and football fans. with Xabi Alonso guiding them so that they can become a fairly strong team in the Bundesliga, this is a good achievement.

It's true, their unbeaten record has been broken by another team. and this is football, of course, even though a team that is known to be strong can compete undefeated, but that doesn't mean there is no team that can beat it, as I have said before. with the remaining Final matches I hope Leverkusen can win so they can make new history with a little more completeness. and I think they have to train harder to compete in the Champions League next season, because of course the Champions League is a big league.

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May 23, 2024, 08:27:53 AM
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I want to collect how many people predicted the final match of the UEFA Europe League wrongly? Because, for me, the results were quite surprising and unexpected. Yes, even though Atalanta is not a small team, looking at the situation, they really deserved to win. Atalanta can play very effectively. Meanwhile, Leverkusen, as usual, but this day, when it is being in a very crucial match and special momentum, they just played the ball without being able to score a goal. Poorly like this.

Leverkusen has failed to maintain their unbeaten record. but, I also still appreciate of their achievement this season. because they are progressing significantly, surprising most people, and now the final result is also surprising.
Yesterday night will look like a dream for Bayern Leverkusen because they haven't lost any matches this season and they lost it where it matters the most. Even though Bayern Leverkusen was the favorite to win the Europa League trophy because of their performance this season, it was not an unexpected result for me. Atalanta has been good this season, and they displayed an amazing performance to beat Marseille 3-0 in the second meeting of their Europa League semi-final round. I knew Atalanta's performance in the Europa League was good enough to beat Bayern Leverkusen, but I wanted Bayern Leverkusen to lift the trophy so they could win the treble and make history this season. But I was surprised when Atalanta defeated Bayern Leverkusen easily, and Bayern Leverkusen couldn't score a goal against Atalanta.


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May 23, 2024, 09:00:53 AM
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Florian Wirtz has been given the Player of the Season award in the Bundesliga. I'm really happy for him because it is a fully deserved one.  Smiley
I fully agree on that , he played a very nice and good season at Leverkusen and also the last games in the National Team.
About a sign to Real Madrid in the next year i guess it can be possible after todays announcement from Toni Kroos that he will be end his Career after the EM.
Would be sad for the german league and Leverkusen but Wirtz would be fit into Real Madrid and he can be gettinf another big german player.

Wirtz is in the squad for Euro 2024 as well by the way which is quite natural.  Smiley  Leverkusen has nearly all of their German players in the Euro 2024 squad (They don't have so many German players in the squad though. Tongue).

Anyways, I also think the same. Real Madrid would absolutely go for Wirtz especially after Kroos' retirement decision. They are trying to fill the squad with young and talented players to build their future over them. This is a very nice thinking. I also don't expect Wirtz to have problems on adapting there. It is difficult to see a player having adaptation problems while playing for Real Madrid. But the competition level in his position will get harder for sure.

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May 23, 2024, 09:14:24 AM
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Even though Leverkusen suffered defeat in the Europa League, in my opinion, Leverkusen has done their best so that they can be at that peak point, because with Leverkusen having made new history in the Bundesliga, of course that is already good and must be appreciated by other teams and football fans. with Xabi Alonso guiding them so that they can become a fairly strong team in the Bundesliga, this is a good achievement.

It's true, their unbeaten record has been broken by another team. and this is football, of course, even though a team that is known to be strong can compete undefeated, but that doesn't mean there is no team that can beat it, as I have said before. with the remaining Final matches I hope Leverkusen can win so they can make new history with a little more completeness. and I think they have to train harder to compete in the Champions League next season, because of course the Champions League is a big league.

Bayer went through the entire season at a high level, without an obvious decline, it seems to me that this is very difficult and the players require rest. It’s difficult to predict what will happen next season, but it’s good that Alonso decided to stay in the team, which gives hope that Bayer will want to keep the team. As for the Champions League, I am sure that it will be much more difficult for them there, there is a big difference when you have to play with the champions.

 
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May 23, 2024, 09:25:02 AM
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Exactly, it's better to be at Real Madrid than to go to Barcelona. We can see that some time ago Barcelona had economic problems and it really disrupted the performance of the players at Barcelona. Real Madrid managed to become champions this season, so if you want to have an even better career then Real Madrid should be the best choice. But we also have to look at the ages of these players. because I'm sure Real Madrid will also consider this because age can have an influence on the performance of the players.
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May 23, 2024, 09:31:36 AM
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What do you guys think of Leverkusen getting a proper beating from Atalanta and ending their 51 games without a loss streak? Will this affect their performance next season? Do you consider them to be the favourite to defend their title (if no major changes to the team are made)?

I think it was a sobering reality check and a signal that they need to continue working hard to repeat their success and nothing will be given to them for free. There was almost something magical about their undefeated streak, especially given the 3 recent 90+ minute equalisers, which could create an impression that there's some higher power behind them preventing them from losing. They might have believed it a little bit too much and got a cold shower.
Leverkusen have ended their unbeaten record at the hands of Atlanta, Leverkusen's defeat of course surprised many people and now many are starting to doubt whether Leverkusen will be able to compete in the Champions League next season, currently Leverkusen has one more final match for them to face against Kaiserslautern in the final dfb pokal, leverkusen had to bury their dream of winning the treble after being destroyed by atlanta and now of course their mission is only to get the dfb pokal trophy to ensure double winners at the end of the season, currently i think leverkusen must immediately get up to forget their failure in the league final Europe and focus on facing Kaiserslautern which might also make things difficult for them in the final match.

Their defeat in the European League final has broken the unbeaten record they are currently maintaining, but I think for next season their performance in the Bundesliga will not change drastically if they are able to show their game and performance like this season, but reportedly some of their main players currently they are starting to be targeted by big clubs so perhaps retaining the championship trophy will be difficult for them, let alone maintaining an unbeaten record of course impossible, Alonso currently only needs to maintain Leverkusen main squad to remain in the team next season if they still want to be title challenger.

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May 23, 2024, 09:52:55 AM
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Bayer went through the entire season at a high level, without an obvious decline, it seems to me that this is very difficult and the players require rest. It’s difficult to predict what will happen next season, but it’s good that Alonso decided to stay in the team, which gives hope that Bayer will want to keep the team. As for the Champions League, I am sure that it will be much more difficult for them there, there is a big difference when you have to play with the champions.
Leverkusen did lose one trophy last night because the performance of its players was less than optimal, but talking about the Champions League this season is still very early, but here I am sure Leverkusen will be a strong competitor next season, because last night's defeat we cannot judge that it is the end for Leverkusen , if Leverkusen spend enough money at the end of this season to bring in some good players to improve Xabi Alonso's game, this will help Xabi in getting a better start to next season.

Indeed, last night's defeat was very painful for Bayer Leverkusen, considering how good they have been this season but had to stop at Atalanta, maybe the lack of a good mentality in the Final made the Leverkusen players lose their way, but Xabi is sensitive to this, I think there will be a change in the side players to start a good game next season.

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May 23, 2024, 10:07:39 AM
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Bochum vs Düsseldorf
A two match play out series to qualify for next season's Bundesliga begins. Bochum, who finished the regular season in 16th place in the Bundesliga, will play their first match against Fortuna Düsseldorf, who finished 3rd in Bundesliga 2. Bochum had shown a very poor defensive performance in the last weeks of the season and had lost their last four league matches by different scores.

Düsseldorf, on the other hand, surprised everyone by going undefeated in the last 14 weeks of the season, even though they had mediocre performances at times during the season. It would not be surprising if Düsseldorf, who are also in good form, make it difficult for their opponents in this match. Düsseldorf, who are looking for a return to the Bundesliga, can take advantage of the first game and then triumph at home in the second game. My prediction for this match is a draw or a Düsseldorf victory.
Last time Fortuna Düsseldorf was playing at Bundesliga on season 2019/2020 at that time they have to finish at 19th place which automatically they have to be relegated to Bundesliga 2 and actually last season Fortuna Düsseldorf almost playing at play off stages but unfortunately they cannot able to managed their consistency and only finish at 4th place and this season Fortuna Düsseldorf has good chances to return to Bundesliga as long as they can eliminate Bochum and this is first leg match which helded at Bochum home ground

Both teams has been met several times at Bundesliga 2 and friendlies matches and Bochum has good records from Fortuna Düsseldorf and about the odds between them i can see Bochum is the favourite with odds @2.18 but because Bochum has good records from Fortuna Düsseldorf probably they will going to win this match but Fortuna Düsseldorf has several good striker such as Christos Tzolis, Vincent Vermeij and Shinta Appelkamp i think these players potentially can makes Bochum defensive lines will be gets in trouble so Bochum have to beware of these players

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May 23, 2024, 10:18:14 AM
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Exactly, it's better to be at Real Madrid than to go to Barcelona. We can see that some time ago Barcelona had economic problems and it really disrupted the performance of the players at Barcelona. Real Madrid managed to become champions this season, so if you want to have an even better career then Real Madrid should be the best choice. But we also have to look at the ages of these players. because I'm sure Real Madrid will also consider this because age can have an influence on the performance of the players.
A team as big as Real Madrid always needs regeneration in all aspects of its players every season, so players who still want to stay at Real Madrid may not necessarily be retained by the team if the players are no longer young. Even though a team still needs one or two players who already have a lot of experience, such as Kross and Modric at Real Madrid, in general the team will certainly prefer young players for their future. So it is quite natural that the team itself acts like that in selecting players every season.
Real Madrid have two old players who might go this season,which are Kross and Modric,but the problem is,can Real Madrid cope without those two experienced and versatile players? Modric has been the pillar of Madrid's midfield,and with his regular passes,Real Madrid have been scoring goals despite the fact that they do not have a recognised goalscorer or a false nine at that front.Their absence will be a big blow and a big loss to Madrid,and the signing of young midfielders who will fill in those positions will be hard to find.How ever,Madrid will still look for a way to do away with them so as to maintain the culture of using only young players at the club.

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May 23, 2024, 10:23:09 AM
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Yesterday night will look like a dream for Bayern Leverkusen because they haven't lost any matches this season and they lost it where it matters the most. Even though Bayern Leverkusen was the favorite to win the Europa League trophy because of their performance this season, it was not an unexpected result for me. Atalanta has been good this season, and they displayed an amazing performance to beat Marseille 3-0 in the second meeting of their Europa League semi-final round. I knew Atalanta's performance in the Europa League was good enough to beat Bayern Leverkusen, but I wanted Bayern Leverkusen to lift the trophy so they could win the treble and make history this season. But I was surprised when Atalanta defeated Bayern Leverkusen easily, and Bayern Leverkusen couldn't score a goal against Atalanta.
They actually had to struggle with the reality of loosing as it came like a surprise since it's the first they had to experience since this season and obviously it wasn't such that they were expecting because it was not just a regular league game but a very crucial and vital game for them that was a determinant to their chances of been in the record of champions and an uncommon record in the whole of Europe.

Of a Truth Atlanta have been of an average performance this season and after they were able to eliminate Liverpool they became even better as their confidence seem to be on a different level and their game style changed since them that they began to explore even more better heights in the Europa and that was the genesis of their infallible form in the Europa, just like you, I expected a tough game but not Atlanta been able bro win Leverkusen, I felt Leverkusen was going to get a goal and the game would have ended with Leverkusen scoring a goal and Atlanta not been able to get an equalizer but then it's really surprising how Leverkusen couldn't get a goal and weren't even brilliant enough in their performance.

I would said we could give Leverkusen the benefits of doubt if they were able to perform brilliantly a d say they probably weren't lucky but then Atalanta had the whole performance and were very much deserving of every or the results they got. Leverkusen hopes to do better by next season but then they will be playing in the champions league and not the Europa again. Been the favourite wasn't enough to win the trophy and that was exactly what happened to Leverkusen as they probably taught it was going to be that easy probably.

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