Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Lafu]

Football is one game that produces shocking results especially when they're least expected so even when I know it's very unlikely to happen, I think Real Madrid is still very much beatable.
Their first UEFA Champions League game of this season will be against German club Stuttgart and I would've given Stuttgart a chance in my prediction of that game if they'll be the host but since it'll be played at Santiago Bernabeu, I think it'll be an easy win for Real Madrid.

Clubs and teams like Real Madrid are always the favorite in every game they playing in the league or in the international Cups.
Nobody was thinking that Frankfurt will win back 2 years ago in Barcelona in the European League and they did it.
But this is to much off topic here as we here in the German League thread , maybe we can discuss this in the other thread where it belongs.

[Docnaster]

Football is one game that produces shocking results especially when they're least expected so even when I know it's very unlikely to happen, I think Real Madrid is still very much beatable.
Their first UEFA Champions League game of this season will be against German club Stuttgart and I would've given Stuttgart a chance in my prediction of that game if they'll be the host but since it'll be played at Santiago Bernabeu, I think it'll be an easy win for Real Madrid.

Clubs and teams like Real Madrid are always the favorite in every game they playing in the league or in the international Cups.
Nobody was thinking that Frankfurt will win back 2 years ago in Barcelona in the European League and they did it.
But this is to much off topic here as we here in the German League thread , maybe we can discuss this in the other thread where it belongs.

I know this is a German Bundesliga thread but I was responding to the content of the post about Stuttgart's upcoming game against Real Madrid. That being said, I understand the point you're trying to make and have taken it into consideration as I'll try my possible best to discuss more if German Bundesliga related issues here instead of engaging on posts that'll make me go off topic.
To a more German Bundesliga related issue, do you think Bayer Leverkusen will be able to retain the league title this season or will the bookmakers' favorite Bayern Munich win the German league at the end of the season

[$crypto$]

Football is one game that produces shocking results especially when they're least expected so even when I know it's very unlikely to happen, I think Real Madrid is still very much beatable.
Their first UEFA Champions League game of this season will be against German club Stuttgart and I would've given Stuttgart a chance in my prediction of that game if they'll be the host but since it'll be played at Santiago Bernabeu, I think it'll be an easy win for Real Madrid.

Clubs and teams like Real Madrid are always the favorite in every game they playing in the league or in the international Cups.
Nobody was thinking that Frankfurt will win back 2 years ago in Barcelona in the European League and they did it.
But this is to much off topic here as we here in the German League thread , maybe we can discuss this in the other thread where it belongs.

Anything can happen and the German club Vfb could cause an upset but who knows if it will happen, even though Real Madrid is the favorite in every match they are bound to lose in a bad run of form.
What is clear is that Real Madrid will be evenly matched with Bayern Munich or Leverkusen.
What is certain is that their Bundesliga representatives will at least make it to the semi-finals of the UCL.

[Akbarkoe]

There are no player cuts at Bayer Leverkusen at the moment, that means they can still show the same performance but because the schedule plus the Champions League certainly does not guarantee that they can break the unbeaten record again. In terms of quality I remain convinced that Xabi Alonso with his ability to manage players is always able to make a difference from the Bundesliga team. If you look at their rivals Bayern Munich then everyone will be looking at the new coach whether he is able to answer the doubts of many people or not. Considering Bayern Munich reputation this season is at stake in Kompany hands especially his target to win the Bundesliga trophy.

Leverkusen would have had a chance if they had only been focused on the domestic league. However, since they have shifted their focus to the Champions League, they are unable to devote the same amount of energy to their home league, which would have resulted in significant differences. In my opinion, Leverkusen lacks the energy necessary to maintain a strong lead in either league, and the Champions League is worse because of the level of pressure they will face to effectively manage both. Alonso might be in a tight condition this time around we know Alonso might be the one with the brains but this is about capacity and a lot of clubs are looking more capable this season, it will look more challenging.

It is indeed not easy for Alonso to be in a situation like this where the burden is quite heavy in the domestic league and the Champions League, but I think last season they also went through it quite well because the two leagues they focused on such as the Europa League even though they failed in the final, Leverkusen was quite optimal and could balance both at the same time, The current burden is only focused on the quality of strategy and the renewal carried out by many teams in the Bundesliga, because it is very unlikely that Alonso will use the same strategy to win again this season, other teams must have studied them, so in the Champions League Leverkusen must really be able to surprise again with something new to compete because in the Champions League are top class teams and is a prestigious league.

Bayern Munich are the one people are even expecting more from because of their new coach and they are positive that with their new coach. Will be at their rescue and they will be able to get back at their feet.
Kompany looks like still does not look like who is going to win the Bundesliga for now their are more reason to this his new and this is first attempt of leading bayern and this might be a season for him to fix and Improve the club that should be like the starting point for him, to focus on winning the trophy might just look like a set back for him. Everything is boiling down to the point that if they don't choose now just because they want to impress people and when they start that way they won't be able to keep up that show for a while but the outcome won't end well.

I don't think so, Bayer Munich is not so expected with their new coach Kompany, I see that more people doubt Kompany can bring Bayer Munich to victory, his dark history with Burnley makes him not so expected, but I think for these first 2 matches Kompany is not so bad and I hope Kompany can silence those who doubt him until today, the league journey is still very long he just needs to do his best.

[KTChampions]

Hoffenheim should not be an opponent that can make it difficult for Leverkusen in the next match because if you look at its quality, Hoffenheim is different from Leipzig, Hoffenheim is an average club that is trying to perform well but Leverkusen is not an easy opponent for it so even though playing at home Hoffenheim has a very small chance of winning compared to Leverkusen.


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I will still favor Leverkusen to win this match even though they just lost against Leipzig but I'm sure Xabi Alonso has fixed his previous mistakes so as not to repeat careless mistakes again, Leverkusen has odds @1.58 to win in my opinion this is a pretty good odds.

If we believe in the accuracy of this assessment, then the odds for Leverkusen to win do not look attractive, after all, the probability of winning is not much higher than 50% and the odds are very far from 2.0. But on the other hand, considering the difference in class, +58% for a simple victory for Bayer looks reliable, since no one expects Bayer to lose points two games in a row, especially against a clear underdog.

[bangjoe]

Hoffenheim should not be an opponent that can make it difficult for Leverkusen in the next match because if you look at its quality, Hoffenheim is different from Leipzig, Hoffenheim is an average club that is trying to perform well but Leverkusen is not an easy opponent for it so even though playing at home Hoffenheim has a very small chance of winning compared to Leverkusen.


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I will still favor Leverkusen to win this match even though they just lost against Leipzig but I'm sure Xabi Alonso has fixed his previous mistakes so as not to repeat careless mistakes again, Leverkusen has odds @1.58 to win in my opinion this is a pretty good odds.

If we believe in the accuracy of this assessment, then the odds for Leverkusen to win do not look attractive, after all, the probability of winning is not much higher than 50% and the odds are very far from 2.0. But on the other hand, considering the difference in class, +58% for a simple victory for Bayer looks reliable, since no one expects Bayer to lose points two games in a row, especially against a clear underdog.

Yes, although the odds offered are not very attractive, but it's not bad enough to try, Leverkusen's victory over Hoffenheim I believe it, rather than taking a much bigger win draw, the bookmakers also realize it and they also corner Bayer not to have a greater chance of giving profit to bettors.

Of course Hoffenheim are not favored in this match it is very clear and we will favor Bayer Leverkusen, yes despite the defeat by Leipzig the previous time, I think Xabi will not repeat it either.

[Velvet78]

There is no need to be negative about Leverkusen's future in the season. Just because they lost a game it doesn't prove anything. It is so early in the season. There are tons of games to be played. Just relax and enjoy the games. 

Besides it is better to see them losing finally honestly.    Of course I was very glad to see them putting an end to Bayern Munich's unreal title streak in the Bundesliga. But I don't just want to see seasons ending without a title race either. If Kompany's Bayern Munich and Nuri Şahin's Dortmund stay strong, we can watch a lovely rivalry. I know Leipzig also started well but they aren't very good at keeping consistent you know.

[Jody.Drummer]

There is a difference in our talk this season, because previously I always saw a lot of talk about Borussia Dortmund, but this season I see a decline and more focus on Leverkusen who holds the status of defending champion in the Bundesliga. Borussia Dortmund was actually the first club that was believed to be able to break the dominance of Bayern Munich, but in reality they could not do it. This season will be a challenge for them to show again that they are a club worth considering. I want to see what they will do to make all that happen, or they will feel normal because what they prioritize is business that must continue to run. If they think like that, then I really regret it, because they are a club that has great potential.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

Yes, although the odds offered are not very attractive, but it's not bad enough to try, Leverkusen's victory over Hoffenheim I believe it, rather than taking a much bigger win draw, the bookmakers also realize it and they also corner Bayer not to have a greater chance of giving profit to bettors.

Of course Hoffenheim are not favored in this match it is very clear and we will favor Bayer Leverkusen, yes despite the defeat by Leipzig the previous time, I think Xabi will not repeat it either.

I am more confident Leverkusen in the match so betting on it is not too bad. Statistics also show that the level of victory will be much greater for Leverkusen compared to Hoffenheim because it talks about the quality of both teams. If you want to bet, you should take the opportunity for Leverkusen's victory because there are many factors that make them much more favored. Leipzig is much more balanced when facing Leverkusen and they also have quality players.

In the match Leverkusen also did not play badly, only they were unable to take advantage of several opportunities to score goals and their form of play was also inconsistent so they suffered a defeat. While Leipzig played more coordinated so they managed to take advantage of the opportunities to score the winning goal.

[Fuso.hp]

The victory of Leverkusen as Bundlesliga champions last season was magical which has boosted their confidence in the league but about this new season it's very obvious with how they are starting off that they can't repeat the spell of retaining the title no matter how they try because other opponents like Bayern Munich, Brussia Dortmund and RB Leipzig look very set and prepared for them, especially Bayern Munich because to them it's somehow a challenge that Leverkusen had to strip them of their birth right and letting Leverkusen retaining it this season is very unlikely.

Bayer Leverkusen still has the oppurtunitty win the Bundesliga because the league is still young. They still have the quality players since they retained most players who made them champions last season. What is certain now is that they will not maintain their unbeaten run this season since they have already lost a game. The Xabi Alonso side was defeated by RB Leipzig making them to lose three points. The league is competitive with good sides like Bayern Munich with some of the best players in Europe. The surprising leader of the table now is Heidenheim, while Leverkusen is in the eighth position.

How can Leverkusen remain unbeaten in the local league tournament as they have already lost one match. They did not start this season the way they finished last season. Losing an early match means a huge drop in confidence, as was the case with Leverkusen. However, the idea that a team from undefeated will usually win the title every season is wrong, so Leverkusen will have to keep trying and compete hard with the big teams. Essentially easy matches they must win especially if they are to go level with Bayern Munich at the end of the competition. Leverkusen will certainly have higher expectations as they move from the Europa League to the Champions League this season.

[Palakka]

Yes, although the odds offered are not very attractive, but it's not bad enough to try, Leverkusen's victory over Hoffenheim I believe it, rather than taking a much bigger win draw, the bookmakers also realize it and they also corner Bayer not to have a greater chance of giving profit to bettors.

Of course Hoffenheim are not favored in this match it is very clear and we will favor Bayer Leverkusen, yes despite the defeat by Leipzig the previous time, I think Xabi will not repeat it either.

I am more confident Leverkusen in the match so betting on it is not too bad. Statistics also show that the level of victory will be much greater for Leverkusen compared to Hoffenheim because it talks about the quality of both teams. If you want to bet, you should take the opportunity for Leverkusen's victory because there are many factors that make them much more favored. Leipzig is much more balanced when facing Leverkusen and they also have quality players.

In the match Leverkusen also did not play badly, only they were unable to take advantage of several opportunities to score goals and their form of play was also inconsistent so they suffered a defeat. While Leipzig played more coordinated so they managed to take advantage of the opportunities to score the winning goal.

Leverkusen vs hoffenheim will be the third week of the Bundesliga this season, the two teams so far have no difference at all in the early season matches because they both won 1 win and also 1 defeat, but even that does not mean that the two clubs have the same quality so it is difficult for us to betting on them, if you look at the performance and quality of the team, of course Leverkusen is the right choice for our favorite,  because obviously they are still a tough team this season even though in the previous match they lost, what @MarjorieZimmermanGinger said is very true, because indeed in the match against Leipzig Leverkusen was still able to show the same performance and quality of play as last season but they were a little unlucky when they started to lose focus when the match almost ended,  So I think the Leverkusen squad has certainly learned from the mistake and doesn't want to repeat it again in the match against Hoffenheim later, the odds of 1.57 for a Leverkusen victory to be a more realistic option compared to the odds of 5.50 for a Hoffenheim victory.   

[SOKO-DEKE]

Leverkusen would have had a chance if they had only been focused on the domestic league. However, since they have shifted their focus to the Champions League, they are unable to devote the same amount of energy to their home league, which would have resulted in significant differences. In my opinion, Leverkusen lacks the energy necessary to maintain a strong lead in either league, and the Champions League is worse because of the level of pressure they will face to effectively manage both. Alonso might be in a tight condition this time around we know Alonso might be the one with the brains but this is about capacity and a lot of clubs are looking more capable this season, it will look more challenging.

When a team has a number of quality players and they are in good form, no matter the number of competitions, I don't think it will be a great problem for them because they have the players to switch for different competitions. However, as for Bayer Leverkusen, I can't say they have as many quality players in their team as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester, Bayern, and so on. These teams have won different trophies in a season before.

If Leverkusen is really as strong as some people are hyping them to be, focusing on different competitions should not be their problem. The truth about Bayer Leverkusen winning the league last season is that it was largely because Bayern was not in great form. I saw last season as an opportunity for Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga. This season hasn’t gone far, and they have already encountered one loss.

Bayern Munich are the one people are even expecting more from because of their new coach and they are positive that with their new coach. Will be at their rescue and they will be able to get back at their feet.
Kompany looks like still does not look like who is going to win the Bundesliga for now their are more reason to this his new and this is first attempt of leading bayern and this might be a season for him to fix and Improve the club that should be like the starting point for him, to focus on winning the trophy might just look like a set back for him. Everything is boiling down to the point that if they don't choose now just because they want to impress people and when they start that way they won't be able to keep up that show for a while but the outcome won't end well.

It is only a few people that are expecting Bayern Munich to win this season's trophy. Many people are still keeping hope in Leverkusen to win it again this season. The reason why many are not giving hope to Bayern is because of their new coach, Kompany, which they view is not an experienced coach based on his records as coach in football and agan this is first season in Bayern Munich, so thinking it may things difficult to fix, which could distract him from winning the Bundesliga trophy this season. However, I have more confidence in Bayern Munich to win the Bundesliga than Leverkusen or any other team. But let's see what will happen after the results of a few more matches before judging and finding the favorite team to win the Bundesliga.

[hahay]

There is a difference in our talk this season, because previously I always saw a lot of talk about Borussia Dortmund, but this season I see a decline and more focus on Leverkusen who holds the status of defending champion in the Bundesliga. Borussia Dortmund was actually the first club that was believed to be able to break the dominance of Bayern Munich, but in reality they could not do it. This season will be a challenge for them to show again that they are a club worth considering. I want to see what they will do to make all that happen, or they will feel normal because what they prioritize is business that must continue to run. If they think like that, then I really regret it, because they are a club that has great potential.

I think it makes no difference because after all, previously Dortmund were also talked about again because of Klopp's presence at Dortmund's training session in this international break. But if that doesn't happen, I personally still believe that Dortmund always have a chance to at least be in the top four. Because after all, competition in the race for trophies is also becoming increasingly difficult because it is no longer just about one or two teams, but in fact there are other teams that have also managed to improve the quality of their performance to enter the race for trophies.

Regarding Dortmund who are considered to always prioritize their business, I think that is also true, but that does not mean Dortmund ignore the quality of their performance as well. Because anyway,  even though Dortmund often sells great players, but because Dortmund still manages to compete in the upper zone in the Bundesliga standings, then I think that is proof that Dortmund always strives to become a title candidate team. Moreover, the player purchases made by Dortmund for this season are also fairly good and thus, I still believe Dortmund will compete in the top four to compete in the title race this season.

[JeffBrad12]

There is no need to be negative about Leverkusen's future in the season. Just because they lost a game it doesn't prove anything. It is so early in the season. There are tons of games to be played. Just relax and enjoy the games. 

There are good and bad effects to the Leverkusen. The good thing is they have no duty to defend their record. The bad thing is they are crushed by their first loss since last season.

But i take it more positively, they can enjoy the upcoming game without a target to defend their record. It helps them to enjoy the game better than when they have a burden to defend their record.

Besides it is better to see them losing finally honestly.    Of course I was very glad to see them putting an end to Bayern Munich's unreal title streak in the Bundesliga. But I don't just want to see seasons ending without a title race either. If Kompany's Bayern Munich and Nuri Şahin's Dortmund stay strong, we can watch a lovely rivalry. I know Leipzig also started well but they aren't very good at keeping consistent you know.

There was no a better than than seeing a win streak more than a decade being stopped by them. I really appreciate that.

Leipzig lacked consistency. But, they destroyed Leverkusen's unbeaten record. So, they must be seen as a strong team.

[TelolettOm]

The good thing is they have no duty to defend their record. The bad thing is they are crushed by their first loss since last season.

Is it a duty to defend the unbeaten record? I think it is not a duty. It is not a must to repeat the unbeaten record in the last season. I'm very sure Xabi Alonso never tries to defend it because it is something really difficult to do. But I'm surprised that Leverkusen is quite fast to lose the points, they lost 3 points in matchday 2. Losing points will be always bad, they looked unconvincingly to win again the league title.

But i take it more positively, they can enjoy the upcoming game without a target to defend their record. It helps them to enjoy the game better than when they have a burden to defend their record.

Even they won the match, they will always target to win every single match. There will be no change with Leverkusen target, they must expect to win every match. They actually too enjoy the match, they made too many opportunities. Unfortunately Leverkusen show infective match, they wasted too many chances of scoring goals.

Leipzig lacked consistency. But, they destroyed Leverkusen's unbeaten record. So, they must be seen as a strong team.

Leipzig always finished the season in the top 4 (UCL zone). I don't think this team is lack of consistency. Sure Leipzig is a strong team in Bundesliga, it is actually not very surprising to see Leipzig beating Leverkusen.

[Nanga Parbat]

There is a difference in our talk this season, because previously I always saw a lot of talk about Borussia Dortmund, but this season I see a decline and more focus on Leverkusen who holds the status of defending champion in the Bundesliga. Borussia Dortmund was actually the first club that was believed to be able to break the dominance of Bayern Munich, but in reality they could not do it. This season will be a challenge for them to show again that they are a club worth considering. I want to see what they will do to make all that happen, or they will feel normal because what they prioritize is business that must continue to run. If they think like that, then I really regret it, because they are a club that has great potential.

Every team's performance is not the same every season, there are some changes.  And if they have aggi, it doesn't matter that much because it depends on the teams how they perform and what they don't.  Leverkusen's performance really suits him because they are hard-working and strong, if they weren't, it would have gone to any other team.  But at this time this right goes to them.  Look, there are teams with better performance than Bayern, but if they perform and play like Bayern, it is a little difficult to beat them because their players don't take time to change their direction and take the lost match to themselves.  It was not in their power to defeat them.  Now if they don't think about it then it will be good because they will think for their win then good otherwise they will play for something else then they will really regret it.

[SatoPrincess]

There is a difference in our talk this season, because previously I always saw a lot of talk about Borussia Dortmund, but this season I see a decline and more focus on Leverkusen who holds the status of defending champion in the Bundesliga. Borussia Dortmund was actually the first club that was believed to be able to break the dominance of Bayern Munich, but in reality they could not do it. This season will be a challenge for them to show again that they are a club worth considering. I want to see what they will do to make all that happen, or they will feel normal because what they prioritize is business that must continue to run. If they think like that, then I really regret it, because they are a club that has great potential.

Dortmund are the engineers of their own downfall. I can remember those years when Dortmund were the only team giving Bayern Munich tough competition each season but those glory days are slowly disappearing because Dortmund turned their priority to be a business oriented club and selling out every top talent they get for huge profits not minding the competition ahead of them. Leverkusen have now stepped up to become the contender for Bayern Munich. They are focused on competing and winning trophies.

[Jegileman]

Besides it is better to see them losing finally honestly.    Of course I was very glad to see them putting an end to Bayern Munich's unreal title streak in the Bundesliga. But I don't just want to see seasons ending without a title race either. If Kompany's Bayern Munich and Nuri Şahin's Dortmund stay strong, we can watch a lovely rivalry. I know Leipzig also started well but they aren't very good at keeping consistent you know.

The Bundesliga have changed totally from last season after Bayern Leverkusen where able to win and collect the title of the Bundesliga form Bayern Munich who have been winning it for the past decade. It is good to see a worthy contender for the league title and not just one team winning it over again. Bayern Leverkusen have given hope to all other teams especially the top ones that always try to be competent competitors, they may as well try to win this time around and we going to see a more interesting Bundesliga than it use to be.

There are good and bad effects to the Leverkusen. The good thing is they have no duty to defend their record. The bad thing is they are crushed by their first loss since last season.

But i take it more positively, they can enjoy the upcoming game without a target to defend their record. It helps them to enjoy the game better than when they have a burden to defend their record.

Is defending a title some kind of burden? I don’t think so and if they feel they have a title defend, it will give them more hope and try their best to be at the top of the standings while prioritising every match and winning them. There must be a reason for a driven force in a team, and if that of the Bayern Leverkusen’s is the retaining of the title, that’s should be their watchword and target for the season.

[letteredhub]

https://twitter.com/HKane/status/1830497722761203879?t=SWWs_nFznb5I6sdfMYgDqQ&s=19
Harry Kane clinging on triple individual title award at a go Its something I thought would have spark up some discussions but no one is talking about it as anything of a serious milestone to his football career probably because it's not a trophy we are talking about here. Its a pity though that despite always being at the top of his game in every season even while he was with Tottenham Hotspur and still maintaining the top flight form in Bayern Munich he still has won a major trophy to his profile, but I personally believe the England striker has a higher chance of winning a major trophy with Bayern Munich very soon as he's with much favours playing for the Germany club.

[pawel7777]

Dortmund are the engineers of their own downfall. I can remember those years when Dortmund were the only team giving Bayern Munich tough competition each season but those glory days are slowly disappearing because Dortmund turned their priority to be a business oriented club and selling out every top talent they get for huge profits not minding the competition ahead of them. Leverkusen have now stepped up to become the contender for Bayern Munich. They are focused on competing and winning trophies.

BVB keeps saying they want to perform at the top level in all competitions, but talk is cheap. It doesn't seem like they are willing to put the money where their mouth is and invest in top-shelf players to stop being a permanent underdog in the European cups, counting mostly on luck.
As I said before, to me it looks like the club is content with staying in the shadow of Bayern (and maybe now Bayer as well), and they're not willing to risk any money to take the club to another level.
But it works for them I guess. That's still enough to finish in the top of the Bundesliga and qualify for the UCL.