Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[pusaka]

Wolfsburg against Frankfurt will be also very interesting game.

Yep, both teams got the same result at the beginning of this season. On paper Wolfsburg should be able to beat Frankfurt because according to H2H Wolfsburg can always find Frankfurt weaknesses. But in the upcoming match both teams have a very small difference in odds because Wolfsburg lost several key players who were injured.
So the bookmakers give odds that are not much different. Wolfsburg odds @2.65 and Frankfurt @2.55

I avoid this match because I don't want to get a surprise from both teams that could destroy my betting slip.

It can be said that this is a balanced match between the two teams, seen from the odds given which do not have a significant difference, so usually the match will be difficult to predict and a draw can occur in a match like this.
Although the statistics of the meeting record point to one team, it does not guarantee that they will be able to do the same in a different match. the risk of betting on this match is so clear, so this can also be a consideration whether we will bet or not. Especially if we prefer parlay betting, so maybe this might hinder the bets we make, and the choice is to avoid it rather than having to fail to win just because the match on paper is difficult to predict.

[HajiBagi]

I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.

Dortmund performance this season doesn't prove that they are capable of winning a trophy this season, from the beginning of the league I thought that Dortmund was going to play very well and compete with Bayern Munich, Leipzig and Leverkusen but after seeing Dortmund's performance in the last match they play I don't think they can compete with the big team's in the league and win a trophy, Dortmund last match against Werder was somehow poor because Dortmund can not score a goal in the match and the second half of the match Dortmund player got a red card in 73 minutes, some people might think the red card is the reason why Dortmund did not win the match but it is not the red card, Dortmund can not win the match and the red card was when the game is about to end.

Dortmund has a game today against Fc Heidenheim, I don't think betting on Dortmund to win the match is a good idea because Dortmund can still find it difficult to defeat Fc Heidenheim, Fc Heidenheim is not that strong like Dortmund but some teams that we didn't expect to play well against big team's surprise us by playing very well and also play a defensive game to not let the opponents score goals, so betting on Dortmund to win the match is risky but betting on the game for over 1.5 or for both teams to score a goal will be the best decision.

[Asiska02]

I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.

Dortmund have actually lost their dominance in football and I think that’s why you’re not trusting them that much to win this match even through they’re the most favourite in this match to win and get three points. Anything can happen though but the tendency of them losing this game is very minimal and we should not because of them not performing as much as expected have a very big disregard for them not to win the match. I still see them as one of the major contenders for the league title. We will see and tell how far they can go in the league for the support to still remain valid till the end of the season.

[Lida93]

But if anyone is saying that Brussia Dortmund is better than Bayer Leverkusen such a person is absolutely not making a wrong claims. The only arguments you guys are making here in favour of Bayer Leverkusen is their last season's unbeaten campaign which culminated to their winning the Bundlesliga title  whereas Brussia Dortmund has consistently been in a top outstanding form in all seasons for the past one decade both in the Bundlesliga and champions league competition's.  

For this current season we don't know for sure how far Bayer Leverkusen will go in maintaining their performance especially in the champions league and even in the Bundesliga but am quite sure that Brussia Dortmund as usual will make it far than Xabi Alonso and his boys this time in all competition's.

I don't see much chance for Leverkusen to win the title this season. This team did great last season and they went undefeated to win the local league title but this season is definitely tough for them. Bayern Munich have played two matches so far this season where they have earned full points in both matches. Leverkusen, on the other hand, have played two matches but lost one, meaning they are currently 3 points behind Bayern Munich. If we compare the performance of Leverkusen with Dortmund then we must put Bayern Munich ahead in the performance of the first two matches because they have not lost any of the two matches, they have won one match and they have drawn one match.

Whether Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga title is not possible so quickly. Bayern Munich have won their first two matches. However, Munich's performance in the first match against Wolfsburg was not good. Several weaknesses in Munich's squad are still quite visible. Leverkusen, on the other hand, lost against Leipzig. However, the teams have barely played two matches each. There is still a long journey ahead. Therefore, it is not yet possible to say for sure which team will be the Bundesliga champions.

@BALIK  It's towards at the end of the season when the competition has deepen  that's when you gonna understand that every point matters in this title race because the beginning of the season which is the laying of foundation for points is as important as the end. So don't take it casual that Bayer Leverkusen losing 3points in two games played may not affect their chances should their opponent Bayern Munich continue in their campaign of winning more games. Drawing our attention to the EPL last season it was not less than 3points that Manchester City used in winning the trophy ahead of their major opponent Arsenal who lost points to Aston villa in the middle of the season.

[legendbtc]

The game between Leverkusen and Hoffenheim seems interesting to bet on because we expect to see Hoffenheim lose in this match because of the better performance we saw from Leverkusen. Also, Leverkusen was unbeaten in many games in the last season and even in this season their performance was not that bad to lose the chance to win this game.
They are now going to play against Hoffenheim and considering the chance of Leverkusen in this game, I think the 1.53 seems good safe for this match.
  

You are right I think Leverkusen will still be the favorite by bookmakers for the Bundesliga match especially since their opponent is not a tough club and last season Leverkusen was able to sweep all the defeats in one season their worst result last season was only a draw. But in this match I am sure Leverkusen will try their best to win because they have lost points in the previous match so Xabi Alonso does not want to repeat that mistake again and will make his club perform optimally, betting on Leverkusen's victory is the right choice but I also include other bets to get bigger odds in the match of the top clubs as below I get odds @4.01

Yes. What you expect is very likely to come true. Hoffenheim are currently without their strongest squad, while Leverkusen are not missing a single player.
The home side have several absentees, including striker Ihlas Bebou, as well as midfielders Finn Ole Becker and Marco John. Defenders David Jurasek, Ozan Kabak, and Grischa Promel are also expected to miss out, while midfielder Umut Tohumcu remains a doubt. As for the away team, they entered the match without any concerns, with all their main players available. It may not be easy for Leverkusen to get 3 points, but with the factors that can create a breakthrough, Leverkusen is likely to be the team to win this match.

[ndutndut]

Everyone has some concerns about Kompany because the last team he coached was relegated to a lower division in the Premier League. However, it is important to know that Bayern Munich did not sign him because of his performances in the Premier League. His defensive set- up and the passing game of his midfielders under pressure, which he practiced at Anderlecht, might not work in the Premier League, but it might work at Bayern Munich. There are better players at Bayern Munich who can implement his tactics. Also, the fact that he worked with Pep Guardiola at Manchester City at the end of his career is an important factor...

There is no need to dredge up pasts that have been bad in the eprosnas, now Kompany is directing them, I think that what he wants most is to win the Bundesliga, for me I do not see any problem with him, the team needed a change, it was given and now they are trying to get them ahead, Bayern is a big team, they have to fight against a Leverkusen that is very unmotivated and a Dortmund that has everything to succeed, I do not see anything wrong with the coach, however you have to be very aware of the performances, for me they have been very good so far , the process that will be a whole season is beginning.

Yes, that's right. Don't look at the past, because many coaches like that failed at their old clubs but when they coached new clubs they succeeded, so did Kompany. Indeed, Kompany's experience is still minimal, but if you look at the game, strategy and philosophy, Kompany is very suitable for Bayern Munich, especially the player material that Bayern Munich has is very good, this is very different from the previous team, the strategy he had did not work well because it was not supported by player material.

After watching several Bayern Munich matches so far, he has managed to make quite a big change for Bayern Munich, especially in terms of defense and the way he builds attacks. He also continues to use attacking tactics when the team is ahead, that's what I see from Kompany at Bayern Munich now. His task in the first season was not easy because he had to be able to win back the Bundesliga trophy from Leverkusen, but in my opinion it is not impossible if he can perform consistently. Moreover, Leverkusen has now lost points after losing for the first time so this will be another motivation for Bayern Munich to be able to maintain its consistency.

[MAAManda]

Dortmund vs Heidenheim is the stronger of the two teams, they had a great performance last season. However, Heidenheim have been the best performers in the current new season, and they are currently top of the points table with two wins from their opening matches. If Heidenheim can follow up their performances, then they will surely be in a good position by the end of the season. Dortmund's win against Heidenheim could be a surprise in this match, but it seems certain as the game will be played at their home ground. Moreover, the 1x2 odds between the two teams dictates Dortmund's win and most people will bet on Dortmund's side.

Heindenheim was just lucky because they met weak teams at the start of the season, they managed to get 6 points from St. Pauli & Augsburg with a satisfactory score. 0 - 2 when they met St. Pauli & 4 - 0 when they met Augsburg, this record also made their clean sheet record. On the third matchday they will suffer their first lose, what's the reason I say this?

- Borussia Dortmund plays at home.
- Borussia Dortmund has a perfect player composition, if we compare it with Heidenheim.
- Borussia Dortmund are favored by bookies, they only have @1.38 for 1X2 betting, while to get at least @2 odds in handicap betting, bettors should choose -1,5.

I predict that Borussia Dortmund will score a lot of goals, at least within 2 goals.

[wmaurik]

Nuri Sahin was indeed doubted because he did not have sufficient experience, but whatever it is, Dortmund has always been a team that cannot be underestimated even though they have made many changes.
To be able to become a fierce competitor in the Bundesliga title race may be very difficult, but at least Dortmund will still be able to compete to stay in the top 4.
The Bundesliga is now a more competitive competition because not only Borussia Dortmund and Bayern are competing like in previous seasons, but the increase in several other teams has made the competition even fiercer.

This season the competition in the Bundesliga could be different from last season and it is quite clear that a team like Dortmund should not be underestimated because the Dortmund team can sometimes surprise any opponent in a match that we do not expect. Last season Dortmund successfully advanced to the UCL final which was something that no one expected, as well as this season in the Bundesliga where Dortmund could be in a much better position than last season in the Bundesliga.

[mammusu]

I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.

Dortmund have actually lost their dominance in football and I think that’s why you’re not trusting them that much to win this match even through they’re the most favourite in this match to win and get three points. Anything can happen though but the tendency of them losing this game is very minimal and we should not because of them not performing as much as expected have a very big disregard for them not to win the match. I still see them as one of the major contenders for the league title. We will see and tell how far they can go in the league for the support to still remain valid till the end of the season.

Heidenheim was surprisingly able to appear consistent in achieving victory in the first two Bundesliga matches and this is different from what happened with Dortmund who were still not consistent in their game, So far we might consider Dortmund to be one of the teams that is capable and strong in competing in the Bundesliga but seeing their game under the coaching of Nuri Sahin makes me also doubt if they can win against Heidenheim in the match, especially since so far Heidenheim performance and motivation are in very good condition ahead of the match, Dortmund have better quality in terms of squad compared to Heidenheim at the moment, but, I think the strategy and game implemented by Nuri Sahin are still in transition and have not really been understood by the Dortmund players, so I think Heidenheim will win 1-0 over Dortmund in the match.

[ajanwalker]

Two extremely fit teams will meet in Dortmund. Dortmund is one step ahead because it is the home team, but Heidenheim is a modest team that I like as a team.
They do not have star players, but they are a very well organized team. Their achievements until reaching the Bundesliga are great. The team I follow in the Bundesliga this year is Heidenheim.

[Xcode7]

Two extremely fit teams will meet in Dortmund. Dortmund is one step ahead because it is the home team, but Heidenheim is a modest team that I like as a team.
They do not have star players, but they are a very well organized team. Their achievements until reaching the Bundesliga are great. The team I follow in the Bundesliga this year is Heidenheim.

Heidenheim is the current top team in the Bundesliga standings, their performance in the first two matches of the season is quite impressive.
This match will be quite fierce for both of them, Dotmund is slightly advantaged because they will play at home but if you look at Dortmund's performance, it is not so good at the start of this season and also the last two meetings between the two teams last season ended in a draw which makes it possible for this to happen this season.
I predict the final result of this match will be a draw later, that is fair enough for Heidenheim who are in top form and Dortmund who are playing at home.

[rahmad2nd]

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Indeed, it is an initial view that when a match occurs, the depth of the squad from the data and statistics owned will of course be a good benchmark to determine the final result.

However, this is not always accurate, although the probability is high, there are always some surprises in the 90 minutes of the match, so although data and statistics are important, we also cannot forget the probability of luck and determination in the 90 minutes of the game.

Statistically and actual game data certainly Leverkusen is still the favorite especially after the previous season they are still very superior and the difference is not too far where Leverkusen is better is still a benchmark that Leverkusen is definitely the favorite but Feyenoord is also certainly not an easy opponent to conquer.

Well, you explained what I meant simply and very easy to understand by the community. The point is, football is not just about data and statistics. But much more than that, it often happens where a team has good statistics by playing their game but their game is very bad. We even have many teams like that, even some big teams often play badly even though in statistics they almost always win their games. Overall, what I said has been explained simply by you. Regarding the Leverkusen vs Feyenoord match, we will agree that Leverkusen has a great chance of winning the match. Apart from both of these teams being teams that have competed in the Europa League, now they meet in the Champions League. Of course, every coach of this team knows very well how the opposing team plays. To be honest, I side with Leverkusen, but the problem is that their pure strikers have not been able to score a single goal. If I'm wrong, please correct me. Therefore, if Boniface is not in his best form, Alonso will have to bench him.

[JeffBrad12]

The picture below the odds movement for Munich vs Zagreb. It's looking stable.



The huge gap in odds from either of club tells Bayern Munich most likely to win the game easily. I think it makes sense. They're unbeaten in their last five home games. They're facing a weak team, Zagreb.

And i see Zagreb has no chance to win against Bayern Munich. Their record is 3 wins, 1 loss, and 1 draw. It's not bad. But, those stats don't convince me they can beat Bayern away.

But i think the odds's not worthy enough (too small). And over 2.5 seems pretty good enough to bet in this game. 

Can you tell me the source of this graph? I always wanted to see statistics like this.
As for the low odds, it is suitable for adding this outcome to a multi-bet and increasing the overall odds, in addition, you can bet on Bayern's victory with a handicap of -1 and then it will already be quite acceptable. I think Bayern will win no less than 2-0, 3-1 so it will be a safe bet.

Yeah, I can. You can go here: https://oddspedia.com/football/bayern-munich-dinamo-zagreb-55879

There's a button where you can see the odds' movement like the picture below.



I hope this can help you.

[Docnaster]

I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.

Let's not forget that Borussia Dortmund started last Bundesliga season on a poor note but was still able to reach the final of the UEFA Champions League competition in June. That's how unpredictable Borussia Dortmund can be and that's why most gamblers find it difficult to add Borussia Dortmund games in their list of games to stake on since it's very difficult to predict their games.
Whenever I'm adding Borussia Dortmund to my slip of games to stake on, I don't for the option of straight wins but will rather go the option of goals to be scored. Their game this weekend in my prediction would produce more than 2 goals

[rahmad2nd]

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Dortmund have actually lost their dominance in football and I think that’s why you’re not trusting them that much to win this match even through they’re the most favourite in this match to win and get three points. Anything can happen though but the tendency of them losing this game is very minimal and we should not because of them not performing as much as expected have a very big disregard for them not to win the match. I still see them as one of the major contenders for the league title. We will see and tell how far they can go in the league for the support to still remain valid till the end of the season.

I suspect this match will be quite tough, considering Heidenheim has performed well in their two matches. For now I can't speculate too far, because I haven't gotten the data and information I need. However, if Beier is the pure striker in the match later, I doubt Dortmund can break through the opposing team's goal easily. Although Dortmund is playing at home and has a better team depth than Heidenheim, I haven't seen Nuri Sahin's gameplay that he implemented running effectively. However, that doesn't mean Dortmund is unable to defeat their opponent, after all they are more favored by the betting exchange. It's just that, I suspect this match will be quite tough. And what Nuri Sahin actually needs to pay attention to is the opposing team's counterattack, because even though they don't always dominate the course of the match, the attacks they make are quite effective. What I'm talking about based on the two matches they played previously, Heidenheim was able to win their match and they were quite productive. So, let's just wait for this match to be held.

[Leviathan.007]

I still believe in Leverkusen's performance this season because the defeat against Leipzig can certainly be a very valuable motivation for Leverkusen so that they will play better when they return to play against Hoffenheim. Because in terms of quality between Leipzig and Hoffenheim are clearly very different so Leverkusen will definitely be able to win again even though it has to be a difficult way but I have no doubts about the quality that Xabi Alonso is still building at Leverkusen this season.

Leverkusen first defeat this season will make the players' mentality stronger, they have just learned a valuable lesson from Leipzig and will try not to underestimate their opponents in the next match. Leverkusen were actually already 2-0 up, but because they were too focused on attacking, they forgot to guard their defensive area.
The players are very enthusiastic about welcoming the next match, they will try to win this match as atonement for the mistakes made in the previous match. Leverkusen are still the favorites to win the title this season even though they have just lost three points at home, their squad depth is still very stable, Xabi Alonso will continue to try to improve the defense area after conceding three goals in one match.

I even thought this loss was needed for Leverkusen at the start of the season because this team was unbeaten for a long time and they had to lose a game to understand even though they had weaknesses and this could give Xabi Alonso some time to find the weakness and try to get the team improved for the next games. However, Leverkusen didn't lose anything yet because there is still a long way ahead to the end of this season and they have enough time to win the Bundesliga title for another time. This match against Hoffenheim can help them a lot.
 

[junder]

Two extremely fit teams will meet in Dortmund. Dortmund is one step ahead because it is the home team, but Heidenheim is a modest team that I like as a team.
They do not have star players, but they are a very well organized team. Their achievements until reaching the Bundesliga are great. The team I follow in the Bundesliga this year is Heidenheim.

Heidenheim relies on fast attacks without being too active in possession, seen in the previous two matches they lost in terms of possession, but they were very successful with this strategy, the fast flow of the ball and good finishing brought Heidenheim to win the previous two matches.
Regarding the Heidenheim match later, I admit that at Signal Iduna Park Dortmund will look more dominant in everything, but as I explained above Dortmund must be aware that if they make a mistake, it is very possible for Heidenheim to take advantage of it and steal points.
Another thing Heidenheim could be a surprise in the Bundesliga this season if they can maintain their consistency

[Jaycoinz]

I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.

Dortmund have actually lost their dominance in football and I think that’s why you’re not trusting them that much to win this match even through they’re the most favourite in this match to win and get three points. Anything can happen though but the tendency of them losing this game is very minimal and we should not because of them not performing as much as expected have a very big disregard for them not to win the match. I still see them as one of the major contenders for the league title. We will see and tell how far they can go in the league for the support to still remain valid till the end of the season.

With the way the German bundesLiga is now, I can't even place Bayern Munich as the favorite although they have started with promising steps as for Dortmund well they are still in the game and I know with the right spirited tempo then they can cause an upset in the title race. The way Bayer Leverkusen came and took the league by surprise has left everything open because even them winning the league is now something to question.

[verdinio]

I still believe in Leverkusen's performance this season because the defeat against Leipzig can certainly be a very valuable motivation for Leverkusen so that they will play better when they return to play against Hoffenheim. Because in terms of quality between Leipzig and Hoffenheim are clearly very different so Leverkusen will definitely be able to win again even though it has to be a difficult way but I have no doubts about the quality that Xabi Alonso is still building at Leverkusen this season.

Leverkusen first defeat this season will make the players' mentality stronger, they have just learned a valuable lesson from Leipzig and will try not to underestimate their opponents in the next match. Leverkusen were actually already 2-0 up, but because they were too focused on attacking, they forgot to guard their defensive area.
The players are very enthusiastic about welcoming the next match, they will try to win this match as atonement for the mistakes made in the previous match. Leverkusen are still the favorites to win the title this season even though they have just lost three points at home, their squad depth is still very stable, Xabi Alonso will continue to try to improve the defense area after conceding three goals in one match.

I even thought this loss was needed for Leverkusen at the start of the season because this team was unbeaten for a long time and they had to lose a game to understand even though they had weaknesses and this could give Xabi Alonso some time to find the weakness and try to get the team improved for the next games. However, Leverkusen didn't lose anything yet because there is still a long way ahead to the end of this season and they have enough time to win the Bundesliga title for another time. This match against Hoffenheim can help them a lot.
 

I agree with your points. The loss against Leipzig can indeed be a wake-up call for Leverkusen. It often takes a fall to realize areas of weakness and come back stronger. It is true that Leverkusen's squad is highly talented and capable, and this defeat should only serve as motivation to rectify their mistakes. They still have a long season ahead to showcase their strength and vie for the title. With Xabi Alonso's guidance, I believe they would improve significantly in both their attacking and defending strategies as the season progresses. The upcoming match against Hoffenheim will be a key opportunity to bounce back from their recent defeat and reinforce their determination to compete at the highest level.