[ANN] Expanse (EXP) - 1st Stable fork of Ethereum (New Algo + PirlGuard)

[bitmaster1x]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

[spacelab]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

1% per month i think? 3 month contracts, which allows you to compound quarterly

[bitmaster1x]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

1% per month i think? 3 month contracts, which allows you to compound quarterly

With a 1% return & EXP being locked in for three months. Given the volatility, I definitely would not hold any EXP at all. Trading and churning would yield far better results without the risks.
 

Case point: You could get 1%, but in those 3 months the value of EXP could have slid 75% or more (which is not unrealistic in crypto). I definitely would not want to be stuck holding EXP in those scenarios.    The risks outweigh the reward. It actually kind of reminds me that Paycoin (XPY) did something similar. That didn't work out so well.

[eternalhash]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

1% per month i think? 3 month contracts, which allows you to compound quarterly

With a 1% return & EXP being locked in for three months. Given the volatility, I definitely would not hold any EXP at all. Trading and churning would yield far better results without the risks.
 

Case point: You could get 1%, but in those 3 months the value of EXP could have slid 75% or more (which is not unrealistic in crypto). I definitely would not want to be stuck holding EXP in those scenarios.    The risks outweigh the reward. It actually kind of reminds me that Paycoin (XPY) did something similar. That didn't work out so well.

actually you get 3% in 3 months; to me it sounds like your simply trying to 'slide' expanse. Why? most likely because youre a trader trying to find a cheaper entry point. Sorry bud, this train is leaving the station, no more 20k expanse for you! Your intentions are definitely not trustworthy by making claims attributing similarities to Paycoin, like are you fucking serious right now?! Hashlets were a product of a ponzi (which inherently represented supposed mining power), with a bait and switch to sell paycoin, nothing at all comparable to innovative concepts such as a bond system on the blockchain, where expanse tokens are awarded as an extension to the PoW process.

[agatha818]

http://blog.expanse.tech/post/155248278338/expanse-newsletter-vo-2-no1-112017-a-new

Check out the news from Expanse, thanks!

hey,the picture is very cool.

agreed, they got the picture from the expanse home page, then insert the  year 2017, that makes 2017 is the expanse year.. i find it really cool!

[bitmaster1x]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

1% per month i think? 3 month contracts, which allows you to compound quarterly

With a 1% return & EXP being locked in for three months. Given the volatility, I definitely would not hold any EXP at all. Trading and churning would yield far better results without the risks.
 

Case point: You could get 1%, but in those 3 months the value of EXP could have slid 75% or more (which is not unrealistic in crypto). I definitely would not want to be stuck holding EXP in those scenarios.    The risks outweigh the reward. It actually kind of reminds me that Paycoin (XPY) did something similar. That didn't work out so well.

actually you get 3% in 3 months; to me it sounds like your simply trying to 'slide' expanse. Why? most likely because youre a trader trying to find a cheaper entry point. Sorry bud, this train is leaving the station, no more 20k expanse for you! Your intentions are definitely not trustworthy by making claims attributing similarities to Paycoin, like are you fucking serious right now?! Hashlets were a product of a ponzi (which inherently represented supposed mining power), with a bait and switch to sell paycoin, nothing at all comparable to innovative concepts such as a bond system on the blockchain, where expanse tokens are awarded as an extension to the PoW process.

I believe you are smarter than what you've just said. Unless you think I'm wrong.

[CryptoClub]

Update: The Expanse Bond System is releasing in days, BEFORE the newsletter unless there are unforeseen delays. So make sure and check out Expanse now. Offline interest coming soon with the Bond System, no need to run a system to stake coins, smart contract based!

[eternalhash]

I believe you are smarter than what you've just said. Unless you think I'm wrong.
[/quote]

thats some real mental gymnastics there, mr semantics.   

[ahmad.siddiqi]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

1% per month i think? 3 month contracts, which allows you to compound quarterly

With a 1% return & EXP being locked in for three months. Given the volatility, I definitely would not hold any EXP at all. Trading and churning would yield far better results without the risks.
 

Case point: You could get 1%, but in those 3 months the value of EXP could have slid 75% or more (which is not unrealistic in crypto). I definitely would not want to be stuck holding EXP in those scenarios.    The risks outweigh the reward. It actually kind of reminds me that Paycoin (XPY) did something similar. That didn't work out so well.

Im sorry man but you're really short sighted. EXP has a very grass roots approach. They never raised even a single penny in crowd funding and they keep on delivering day after day month after month. I will keep buying EXP because I am a 100% sure that they will be the premier blockchain platform in the future.

[spacelab]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

1% per month i think? 3 month contracts, which allows you to compound quarterly

With a 1% return & EXP being locked in for three months. Given the volatility, I definitely would not hold any EXP at all. Trading and churning would yield far better results without the risks.
 

Case point: You could get 1%, but in those 3 months the value of EXP could have slid 75% or more (which is not unrealistic in crypto). I definitely would not want to be stuck holding EXP in those scenarios.    The risks outweigh the reward. It actually kind of reminds me that Paycoin (XPY) did something similar. That didn't work out so well.

Im sorry man but you're really short sighted. EXP has a very grass roots approach. They never raised even a single penny in crowd funding and they keep on delivering day after day month after month. I will keep buying EXP because I am a 100% sure that they will be the premier blockchain platform in the future.

with all of the consistent development, and supportive community, its surprising to me that Expanse seems to still be in the underdog phase. But all in due time, definitely has the potential to be in the top 10 (already is #1 in my mind)

[eternalhash]

Any ETA on the bonds system?! I am pretty excited to lock up my stash and earn some interest!!!!!  BTW the expanse chart looks real nice with that slow and steady uptrend from 18k to 27k

[spacelab]

Any ETA on the bonds system?! I am pretty excited to lock up my stash and earn some interest!!!!!  BTW the expanse chart looks real nice with that slow and steady uptrend from 18k to 27k

I read somewhere its going to be in the next few days, maybe 1-3days? Suppose to be out before the newsletter which is on the 1st, so within the week at least.

[TTMNewsK]

Update: The Expanse Bond System is releasing in days, BEFORE the newsletter unless there are unforeseen delays. So make sure and check out Expanse now. Offline interest coming soon with the Bond System, no need to run a system to stake coins, smart contract based!

Oh, great!
We are all excited for that.

[kampretkabur]

Update: The Expanse Bond System is releasing in days, BEFORE the newsletter unless there are unforeseen delays. So make sure and check out Expanse now. Offline interest coming soon with the Bond System, no need to run a system to stake coins, smart contract based!

Oh, great!
We are all excited for that.

Is it something like Antshares stake?

[brigabriela470]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

1% per month i think? 3 month contracts, which allows you to compound quarterly

With a 1% return & EXP being locked in for three months. Given the volatility, I definitely would not hold any EXP at all. Trading and churning would yield far better results without the risks.
 

Case point: You could get 1%, but in those 3 months the value of EXP could have slid 75% or more (which is not unrealistic in crypto). I definitely would not want to be stuck holding EXP in those scenarios.    The risks outweigh the reward. It actually kind of reminds me that Paycoin (XPY) did something similar. That didn't work out so well.

as many people are un market as their are the ideas but i am unaware of all this because i am new here.

[xdookiex]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

1% per month i think? 3 month contracts, which allows you to compound quarterly

With a 1% return & EXP being locked in for three months. Given the volatility, I definitely would not hold any EXP at all. Trading and churning would yield far better results without the risks.
 

Case point: You could get 1%, but in those 3 months the value of EXP could have slid 75% or more (which is not unrealistic in crypto). I definitely would not want to be stuck holding EXP in those scenarios.    The risks outweigh the reward. It actually kind of reminds me that Paycoin (XPY) did something similar. That didn't work out so well.

i would say to each is his own strategy, but for those who know how to successfully day trade, they will outperform, and over-perform any bonded ROI. That's where the conundrum sets in -- that successfully day trading is an art that many individuals are not ept too. However, if one were to incur a sell position before the ship takes off, they do miss a chunk of the pie, but at same time, it's almost irrelevant as long as when they price in, they are able to catch an upswing...regardless of it being sustained --- an upswing is exactly what it is --- a positive multiplication of your portfolio.

@bitmaster1x --- been reading some of your posts, and i do realize where you are coming from. It's actually quite brilliant, but 99% investors could lose money. You my friend, are the 1%.

[xdookiex]

@bitmaster1x if i had followed your trading strategy, I would have made substantial profits in ZCL, where I priced in mostly at .00035, however, my trading expertise is not quite up to your level. Hence trying to figure it out on my own terms...but I do see the beauty in it, especially if you consider that in the short-long term run, miners consistently push the price down until a new sustained bottom is reached before a breakout.

[bitmaster1x]

I believe you are smarter than what you've just said. Unless you think I'm wrong.

thats some real mental gymnastics there, mr semantics.   
[/quote]

Just being objective, that's all.

[bitmaster1x]

Can't get myself to hold EXP. I have no issues trading and churning it.  

the bonds and validators should be a good reason to hold exp longterm

People all have their different strategies and short-term traders also help with volume, so more power to them. I do quite well with a buy and hold strategy, and an abundance of patience, but that is certainly a learned skill in crypto.

Yes, the Bond system and Validator system are both designed to give more reasons to hold EXP off exchanges and lower resistance on the books. (Easier for the price to rise) Everything takes time, but our day will come

It also leaves it susceptible to a major slide as well if less people are trading.

I think for the moment, till the Validator system is in place, we'll have a unique opportunity to see how the market responds to the bond system with the current POW infrastructure. People have incentive to hold to make money through int earned through bonds though it does take a little while to get to a 1000 EXP while mining so they'll need to show a little patience which is often lacking in the crypto world.

Long term however fortune favors people who disciplined and patient. Its a time tested proven strategy.

What's the return on the bonds?

1% per month i think? 3 month contracts, which allows you to compound quarterly

With a 1% return & EXP being locked in for three months. Given the volatility, I definitely would not hold any EXP at all. Trading and churning would yield far better results without the risks.
 

Case point: You could get 1%, but in those 3 months the value of EXP could have slid 75% or more (which is not unrealistic in crypto). I definitely would not want to be stuck holding EXP in those scenarios.    The risks outweigh the reward. It actually kind of reminds me that Paycoin (XPY) did something similar. That didn't work out so well.

i would say to each is his own strategy, but for those who know how to successfully day trade, they will outperform, and over-perform any bonded ROI. That's where the conundrum sets in -- that successfully day trading is an art that many individuals are not ept too. However, if one were to incur a sell position before the ship takes off, they do miss a chunk of the pie, but at same time, it's almost irrelevant as long as when they price in, they are able to catch an upswing...regardless of it being sustained --- an upswing is exactly what it is --- a positive multiplication of your portfolio.

@bitmaster1x --- been reading some of your posts, and i do realize where you are coming from. It's actually quite brilliant, but 99% investors could lose money. You my friend, are the 1%.

Like you said, day trading isn't for everyone, but regardless it helps to be objective in any case. There's no right or wrong, but doing what the individual believe is right for themselves and dealing with any consequences or rewards associated with it.

[MofoMF]

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Any ideea on how to solve this problem ? i`ve searched everywhere and i cant get a fix on it