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March 02, 2016, 08:41:26 PM
Last edit: March 02, 2016, 10:39:18 PM by soil
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I've send abvhiael 10k SOIL from the fund. So, he has no hassle to pay the server bills for the next time.
I know he has already used his dev fund for paying the bills...

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March 02, 2016, 10:51:38 PM
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What about Yobit?
Still no listing.


ive written them again. and again. AND AGAIN. no response whatsoever to support questions, which is, in my line of thinking, a really shitty way of doing business. extraspecially in the highly demanding cryptocurrency community. from reading the forum here on bitcointalk, it seems as though many developers have experienced this very same problem. this is the pitfall with centralized exchanges.

As cyberhacker says, Yobit is nothing but an exchange for scams, it's a shit hole and the volume is pathetic.

I wouldn't court them for a minute.
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March 03, 2016, 12:32:41 AM
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What about Yobit?
Still no listing.


ive written them again. and again. AND AGAIN. no response whatsoever to support questions, which is, in my line of thinking, a really shitty way of doing business. extraspecially in the highly demanding cryptocurrency community. from reading the forum here on bitcointalk, it seems as though many developers have experienced this very same problem. this is the pitfall with centralized exchanges.

As cyberhacker says, Yobit is nothing but an exchange for scams, it's a shit hole and the volume is pathetic.

I wouldn't court them for a minute.

with still zero response, ive asked via support to refund our listing cost. not that i actually expect to hear from them, a month in almost and they havent answered a single message. i dont know how an exchange like that manages to stay afloat.
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March 03, 2016, 06:34:28 AM
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yes really nice performance today soil:)
looks like buy support building up too, and nearly no sell pressure at the moment, which means people holding soil strong.
about yobit listing i will write the support there too now because its really a long time.
but i also think soil should go to some other bigger exchanges it totally deserve this.
so everyone do a coin request on their favourite trading sites.


The fluctuation is gigantic and I hope on a more stable rice of SOIL.
Yes I took also some profit but I still hold about 75K of SOIL.

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March 03, 2016, 07:19:10 AM
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We could use some more hashpower over at https://soil.suprnova.cc/index.php Smiley Not a lot of blocks being found lately, I only have my one GPU aimed at it with one at expanse.

Would be nice to find blocks more often, think someone is solo-mining at the moment. Tongue

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March 03, 2016, 01:06:08 PM
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We could use some more hashpower over at https://soil.suprnova.cc/index.php Smiley Not a lot of blocks being found lately, I only have my one GPU aimed at it with one at expanse.

Would be nice to find blocks more often, think someone is solo-mining at the moment. Tongue

if you check the info on our network intelligence page at stats.soilcoin.xyz, the "latest block finders" information panel shows that our official SOILpool (at http://45.63.4.165:7000/) seems to be finding the majority of blocks. both peter and i tend to keep our work on the consensus engine going from there.
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March 04, 2016, 03:38:52 PM
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What about Yobit?
Still no listing.


ive written them again. and again. AND AGAIN. no response whatsoever to support questions, which is, in my line of thinking, a really shitty way of doing business. extraspecially in the highly demanding cryptocurrency community. from reading the forum here on bitcointalk, it seems as though many developers have experienced this very same problem. this is the pitfall with centralized exchanges.

As cyberhacker says, Yobit is nothing but an exchange for scams, it's a shit hole and the volume is pathetic.

I wouldn't court them for a minute.

with still zero response, ive asked via support to refund our listing cost. not that i actually expect to hear from them, a month in almost and they havent answered a single message. i dont know how an exchange like that manages to stay afloat.


Have they refund you?

IMO is better push for Poloniex, maybe, if it would be possible, use that fund for add SOIL on it

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March 04, 2016, 05:21:23 PM
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IMO is better push for Poloniex, maybe, if it would be possible, use that fund for add SOIL on it

Poloniex won't take payment for listing a coin on their exchange, they don't announce what is going to be listed and SOIL has a long, long way to go before they will even consider it for listing.



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March 04, 2016, 10:29:52 PM
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Awesome info from the dev! Thought this would be valuable to repost:



first of all, id like to apologize for the lengthiness of this post, its the first in a series im hoping to pen in order to introduce everyone to smart contracts and dApps, in the hopes of getting more and varied dApps deployed onto the SOIL-VM.

as ive said before, i think the most important thing about SOIL is the fact we can run smart contracts (or dApps) on the blockchain. i truly believe that these are the the future of how we interact online, and given five years, smart contracts will be the underlying layer from everything from our email and social media to how we perform scientific studies and computational needs. it will lead, over the course of the next decade, to what stephen tual from Ethereum calls the "decentralization singularity".

right now, with SOIL as well as ETH, smart contracts remain fairly esoteric, not only in definition, but in building, deployment and essential end-user interaction. im hoping that thru some discussions here, we can get some other folks working of dApps on the SOIL blockchain.

why would SOIL be a great place to deploy smart contracts? the cost of the computational actions. where ETH is now $6.25, and "gas" to perform a transaction or deployment is 500 szabo (1 szabo=.00001ETH) the cost of transactions is $0.03125USD. this can add up in one is doing many transactions, which in business terms cuts in to the bottom line.

with SOIL, where whole unit costs are hovering around $0.015USD, the same transaction or computational cost works out to $0.000075USD. gas price acceptance by miners is alterable, as is the gas you want to use to perform a computation or transaction, but..well, default is default. with little incentive and nearly non-existent instructions to do so from a miners perspective, the "gas" system is becoming very inefficient and costly using ETH. what happens when ETH hits $10, or $20?

beyond the basic economic considerations of use on the EVM, the documentation for deployment and interaction with smart contracts is also less than accessible. so, maybe we need to break it down a little and put everything in simpler terms.

ive been watching the expansion of the dAppsphere over the last several months, and theres a lot of really promising projects being developed for Ethereum. being open source, this gives SOIL, as well as Expanse, the ability to really work with whats out there. unfortunately, generally without much support from the developers. but what makes smart contracts so important in the first place, especially now, in the nascent stages of the Virtual Machine architecture? and where does it go from here?

smart contracts are self-executing or self-enforcing (or both) bits of code that run on top of the virtual machine, which will create a decentralized internet, where we can access documents, perform scientific computations, and run financial and organizational schemes, just as a few examples. pretty much... imagination is the limit. as we continue to build this architecture into the blockchain, smart contracts will be able to communicate with each-other, creating massive scalability. right now, the bulk of contracts are very simple things, while there are some massive projects out there such as augur.

ethereum uses, essentially, three programming languages... solidity, serpent and lll. solidity is the language being pushed most, while serpent (a near relation to python) remains very usable. a number of online compilers exist, generally for the solidity language, to make setting up a contract from basic progamming language into machine code that is readable on the EVM. there are tons of tutorials online, although, with the speed of evolution for these languages, many times the example script is outdated and doesnt compile right, which just leads to frustration. other dApp development package managers are becoming available as well, both for solidity and for serpent, which seek to make building and deploying a contract much simpler. as we approach Homestead on ETH, which will naturally lead to improvements here on SOIL, we'll see a much greater accessibility to building dApps.

so, online compilers, on-console compilers.... thanks to peter, we have the SOIL development tool, based on cosmo, to work with.
( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1176709.msg13574585#msg13574585 ) but using the other compilers to break a contract code into bytecode or "web3 deployment code" can be used as well. one of the issues ive found working with these is that not every online compiler works the same, or provides the same output.

probably the most well-known online compiler is chriseth's one at github ( https://chriseth.github.io/browser-solidity/ ) and it remains the one im using more often than not. entering in your contract code in the left-side pane will present different forms of compiled code. bytecode, which is how a contract is STORED on the blockchain is a long line of hexidecimal digits (0-9, a-h).

(*you can view the bytecode for many contracts already existing on the ETH blockchain at ( https://live.ether.camp/contracts ) and using some of the ETH block explorers, you can call up a contract's address and view the code built into it. ( https://www.etherchain.org provides the basic code (for verified source code), ABI, bytecodes and opcodes for contracts; https://etherscan.io provides opcodes and bytecodes) )

interface brings up the contract API, which is used to communicate with the contract.
web3 deploy brings the information necessary to copy/paste into the clientside CLI (gsoil) in order to deploy the contract simply
uDApp is short for Universal DApp, which is considered "a Universal Interface for contracts on the Ethereum blockchain". the project behind this feature seems to have been abandoned, or rolled into the basic solidity compiler, solc.
other features with chriseth's compiler give you the solidity interface, opcodes, functions, and gas estimates.

etherchain's compiler at ( https://www.etherchain.org/solc ) presents much of the same information, but i find it buggy, with lots of errors in compiling presented. simple contracts work well, but anything meaty seems to have issues.

cosmo ( http://meteor-dapp-cosmo.meteor.com/ ) which is what peter's development tools are based on, presents a clean interface with which to build, compile and deploy dApps, including basic interfaces with which to call and transact with a smart contract (methods) and to interact with state-changing events, which is VERY helpful.

ether-fund (http://ether.fund/tools/) has a development tool and compiler available under the "tools" section, but it requires an account with them, the creation of which seems to be broken. verification emails never arrive, setting up a new account leads to an error thats been in place for many months, unfixed.

compiling can also be done via the console on gsoil. first you must make sure that the compilers are available and installed. (https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/wiki/Contract-Tutorial) has a not-so-clear tutorial on how to enable this. you will have to do a little searching to find the necessary repositories for the various compilers.

ether-scripter (http://etherscripter.com/0-5-1/) also maintains an online development tool for the serpent and lll languages, but ive not had much luck working with it thus far.

serpent also has the pyepm (pyethereum package manager) available, which requires building a .yaml file to handle releasing and setting up contracts. ill go into the list of  development packages in another post.

for right now, id suggest looking into the projects available (http://dapps.ethercasts.com/ , https://consensys.net/ventures/spokes/ , http://hack.ether.camp/) and see what interests you. start small, and work your way up into larger projects. a quick search for "smart contracts" at github also reveals a plethora of contracts being worked on. hope everyone is having a great day. me, im taking a long-deserved hike in the woods today and then, more work on my pet projects this evening.

Awesome information, thanks a lot! Thould this would be valuable to repost for information.

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March 05, 2016, 01:23:35 AM
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Would be nice if you guys used Github and updated with new clients and available downloads and also kept OP updated too. Had a bunch of problems downloading block chain updating client and getting connected peers. Took over an hour or more to find latest client update and working nodes but still only got 2 peers connected and downloading. Hoping this solves the errors and stuck chain.

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March 05, 2016, 07:19:50 AM
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IMO is better push for Poloniex, maybe, if it would be possible, use that fund for add SOIL on it

Poloniex won't take payment for listing a coin on their exchange, they don't announce what is going to be listed and SOIL has a long, long way to go before they will even consider it for listing.





Your opinion or you are trying to speak on their behalf? Smiley
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March 05, 2016, 11:05:44 AM
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IMO is better push for Poloniex, maybe, if it would be possible, use that fund for add SOIL on it

Poloniex won't take payment for listing a coin on their exchange, they don't announce what is going to be listed and SOIL has a long, long way to go before they will even consider it for listing.





Your opinion or you are trying to speak on their behalf? Smiley

Poloniex never announces, I know this for fact. They also will not ask for BTC to be listed.  It has been that way for as long as I can remember. They usually just drop a link in the thread. Examples below.  Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1333026.msg13898446#msg13898446
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850070.msg12602329#msg12602329
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173722.msg12444096#msg12444096
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SOIL looks so  interesting and promising . I bought today almoust 20K coins. I hope we see it on poloniex soon.
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Would be nice if you guys used Github and updated with new clients and available downloads and also kept OP updated too. Had a bunch of problems downloading block chain updating client and getting connected peers. Took over an hour or more to find latest client update and working nodes but still only got 2 peers connected and downloading. Hoping this solves the errors and stuck chain.

Thanks for your feedback!

Here you go:
https://github.com/soilcurrency/go-ethereum/releases/tag/1.4.0

Keeping the OP updated is important and we always try to ensure that you folks get all the essential information right from the OP.
I saw that the download offer on our website was one version below and it's fixed now.
We have not released an OS X version in the last release and no one was complaining, therefore we omit it.

If your client is not syncing you can copy paste the node list of the OP.


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Your opinion or you are trying to speak on their behalf? Smiley

It's a fact, they will not list this coin while found blocks are hours apart, there's less than half a dozen miners, volume is tiny etc etc etc.

Getting on Poloniex will not be quick.
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Would be nice if you guys used Github and updated with new clients and available downloads and also kept OP updated too. Had a bunch of problems downloading block chain updating client and getting connected peers. Took over an hour or more to find latest client update and working nodes but still only got 2 peers connected and downloading. Hoping this solves the errors and stuck chain.

Thanks for your feedback!

Here you go:
https://github.com/soilcurrency/go-ethereum/releases/tag/1.4.0

Keeping the OP updated is important and we always try to ensure that you folks get all the essential information right from the OP.
I saw that the download offer on our website was one version below and it's fixed now.
We have not released an OS X version in the last release and no one was complaining, therefore we omit it.

If your client is not syncing you can copy paste the node list of the OP.


I used the nodes that are on page 82 or 83 and updated to v7 client and all is good now. just took sometime in finding the posts needed to work it is running fine now and solo mining good blocks every few sec so am happy hoping this coin has a bright future Smiley

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March 05, 2016, 01:29:41 PM
 #1677

Would be nice if you guys used Github and updated with new clients and available downloads and also kept OP updated too. Had a bunch of problems downloading block chain updating client and getting connected peers. Took over an hour or more to find latest client update and working nodes but still only got 2 peers connected and downloading. Hoping this solves the errors and stuck chain.

Thanks for your feedback!

Here you go:
https://github.com/soilcurrency/go-ethereum/releases/tag/1.4.0

Keeping the OP updated is important and we always try to ensure that you folks get all the essential information right from the OP.
I saw that the download offer on our website was one version below and it's fixed now.
We have not released an OS X version in the last release and no one was complaining, therefore we omit it.

If your client is not syncing you can copy paste the node list of the OP.




Just to clarify again the certain state: You are going to fork Homestead upon release, right?
As Ethereum still struggles with finding a date for shifting from PoW to PoS, how are you doing it with Soil?

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March 05, 2016, 05:55:16 PM
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something i stumbled across:

https://www.ethernodes.org/network/42

this shows SOILs overall nodes. not a lot of pretty data, but interesting nonetheless
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Last edit: March 05, 2016, 09:49:35 PM by abvhiael
 #1679



Your opinion or you are trying to speak on their behalf? Smiley

It's a fact, they will not list this coin while found blocks are hours apart, there's less than half a dozen miners, volume is tiny etc etc etc.

Getting on Poloniex will not be quick.

to be concise, our block times have stabilized. we are between 30 seconds and 2 minutes for the last week. dificulty levels have scaled back smoothly.
 
volume has been very healthy. 6 BTC in the past 24 hours, and an average of 3 BTC/day over the last week, which is in the top 60 among cryptocurrencies overall. of all currencies listed on poloniex, only 30 are performing better than that today.

the number of miners isnt really a concern to exchanges, as long as the consensus engine is running smoothly.

etc etc etc

i dont mean to sound snarky, but it galls me when people make blanket statements like that without proper research or FACTS. sure, id love to get SOIL listed on poloniex, and communications from them have stated that they look at what community support is out there for a currency before they list it. as SOIL continues to improve, both in market capitalization and blockchain built contracts, other exchanges will accept us easily. right now, we're doing good with the bittrex listing, and ive made request for a refund from yobit as id rather not subject our community to the frustrations people experience dealing with support issues not being addressed at that exchange. i doubt yobit will even be in existence within a year, not with those business practices, so id rather not see us have people lose SOIL because the exchange pulls a mt.gox or cryptsy.
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March 05, 2016, 06:40:00 PM
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We are looking for people who wants to join the team.

Not only coders or graphic designer, everyone is welcome!
PM me if you want to contribute.

This is community!

I would be interesting in helping out if needed for configuration files I can provide to give people a lot more in hand ways of mining and having control over their wallets while mining.

been doing stuff like this with configurations from others but porting to this coin.


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