Placing machines outside on cold winter? -20

[Sweminer777]

Yeah i will try anyways.


I am hoping to overclock my sp20 and want to see the possibiliets if i can get 3thz from it running in cold weather.

[Sweminer777]

if they can run cpu at -225°C

what would mine be in danger at -20 ?




we could easy have 20thz machines at home ? 


http://www.snotr.com/video/8911/8429GHz_overclocked

[notlist3d]

if they can run cpu at -225°C

what would mine be in danger at -20 ?




we could easy have 20thz machines at home ? 


http://www.snotr.com/video/8911/8429GHz_overclocked

There were some pretty good anwsers already.  Asic miners just were not tested in these conditions.   

I don't think anyone can give you a good anwser as no one has done it. I personally would not choose outside and in -20.  But you seem determined so go for it document it and show it to everyone.   

Were just speculating.  You are only one who can test it if you feel it truly can make it.

[dre1982]

if they can run cpu at -225°C

what would mine be in danger at -20 ?




we could easy have 20thz machines at home ? 


http://www.snotr.com/video/8911/8429GHz_overclocked

There were some pretty good anwsers already.  Asic miners just were not tested in these conditions.   

I don't think anyone can give you a good anwser as no one has done it. I personally would not choose outside and in -20.  But you seem determined so go for it document it and show it to everyone.   

Were just speculating.  You are only one who can test it if you feel it truly can make it.

If it isn't tested OP should just do it. Take some pics for us and show us how its going.

[notlist3d]

if they can run cpu at -225°C

what would mine be in danger at -20 ?




we could easy have 20thz machines at home ? 


http://www.snotr.com/video/8911/8429GHz_overclocked

There were some pretty good anwsers already.  Asic miners just were not tested in these conditions.   

I don't think anyone can give you a good anwser as no one has done it. I personally would not choose outside and in -20.  But you seem determined so go for it document it and show it to everyone.   

Were just speculating.  You are only one who can test it if you feel it truly can make it.

If it isn't tested OP should just do it. Take some pics for us and show us how its going.

That is what it's going to come down to.  Were all speculating what will happen.  I personally think it's going to lead to problems down the road.

But I have been wrong before.  And I do hope op does document the process.

[Sweminer777]

Yeha ill be prepareing. ,my electric bill is 0.05 cents kwh so might overclocking my machines if it goes well else ioll be having them inside the house.

The climate is still warm . at -5 at nights and rainy on days. might have to wait a month untill it gets colder.


The climate is dry so it wouldnt conduct much moisture, more than normal, even less.


The main obstacle will be to have the protection totally sealed.

[Sweminer777]

Just ordered some new Thermal GReese, AS5 just dries to quick on the sp20, will repaste all the machines and get the chips on alot of compound to protect from the winter chills.


Also ordered a fan controller will have the fans run 100% whit no machine control.


As what i understand from Overclocking under freezing temperatures the cores need to warm up a little bit before running full pontetiall.


Also checking some absorbemt materials to cover under the intake just incase to abosorbe moisture.


A s3 won't be relevant for overclocking but will might give it a try aswell to see maybe can squish 700ghz out of it.

[coinbeast]

Why not just have a mining box with a small extra fan blowing -20 in and another blowing inside ambient box air out?

If possible have their speed controlled  so that the box temperature is at a more suitable temperature.

So just stick your miner/s into the box and regulate the temperature of the box by controlling the amount of air coming in and out of that box.

Of course be careful that your box temperature does not fluctuate up and down much. Fast temperature changes to electrical devices is death.

[Sweminer777]

Why not just have a mining box with a small extra fan blowing -20 in and another blowing inside ambient box air out?

If possible have their speed controlled  so that the box temperature is at a more suitable temperature.

So just stick your miner/s into the box and regulate the temperature of the box by controlling the amount of air coming in and out of that box.

Of course be careful that your box temperature does not fluctuate up and down much. Fast temperature changes to electrical devices is death.

The idea is something like this.

But the fans of the machines are to strong to keep it sealed.

So exhaust will be completly open and intake aswell whit a fan pulling cold air inside from the bottom.

Fans form machines will be pushing out.

My IT techer even told me that why not put the machines inside Oil cooling and cool down the oil whit the winter cold.

Might even be a clever solution, oil will protect from outside and will be more seleaded swell.

[notlist3d]

Why not just have a mining box with a small extra fan blowing -20 in and another blowing inside ambient box air out?

If possible have their speed controlled  so that the box temperature is at a more suitable temperature.

So just stick your miner/s into the box and regulate the temperature of the box by controlling the amount of air coming in and out of that box.

Of course be careful that your box temperature does not fluctuate up and down much. Fast temperature changes to electrical devices is death.

The idea is something like this.

But the fans of the machines are to strong to keep it sealed.

So exhaust will be completly open and intake aswell whit a fan pulling cold air inside from the bottom.

Fans form machines will be pushing out.

My IT techer even told me that why not put the machines inside Oil cooling and cool down the oil whit the winter cold.

Might even be a clever solution, oil will protect from outside and will be more seleaded swell.

None of these machines you have mentioned were meant for immersion cooling. Be careful as it sounds like your teacher is giving advice he is not familiar with.

You might have to find special fans to handle this.  I don't think most of the fan's will last.  I think get brittle and break.  But that is a guess no one has tried what your doing that I know of.

[Sweminer777]

Why not just have a mining box with a small extra fan blowing -20 in and another blowing inside ambient box air out?

If possible have their speed controlled  so that the box temperature is at a more suitable temperature.

So just stick your miner/s into the box and regulate the temperature of the box by controlling the amount of air coming in and out of that box.

Of course be careful that your box temperature does not fluctuate up and down much. Fast temperature changes to electrical devices is death.

The idea is something like this.

But the fans of the machines are to strong to keep it sealed.

So exhaust will be completly open and intake aswell whit a fan pulling cold air inside from the bottom.

Fans form machines will be pushing out.

My IT techer even told me that why not put the machines inside Oil cooling and cool down the oil whit the winter cold.

Might even be a clever solution, oil will protect from outside and will be more seleaded swell.

None of these machines you have mentioned were meant for immersion cooling. Be careful as it sounds like your teacher is giving advice he is not familiar with.

You might have to find special fans to handle this.  I don't think most of the fan's will last.  I think get brittle and break.  But that is a guess no one has tried what your doing that I know of.

Yeah my teacher do not know anything about asics. tought it's cpus .

The idea of this is to not have fans but normal water cooling system like aquarium.




I don't think i will try out this tought it's just to much work to be done.












I've placed the machine outside, tought it still warm.

18 °C / 79,69 °C temps are a  bit high.


2 chips are running at 120c and rest aboud 100c.



Still waiting for the new thermal paste to get home, hopefully it will bring down the temps.



Outside temps are about 10c still nights around -3c.

[edric]

What types of damage could the machine takes if they are placed outside in the scandinavian winter.

whit roof . no walls ?

any overclock pocibilities?


Let's say s5 machines sp20s ?

this is the idea.

The Blow will be outside and the intake will be pulled from downside.


PLacing the Miners on the balconi the intake should not bring any moisture from the downside.

Weather is pretty dry were i live.

The little box will be weather prooff so no water or snow will be getting inside.

I don't know if this is a good idea but I am facing a long cold winter and plan to use my miners as heaters.  I live in a small apartment and can get away with spending a lot less on heat while my miners run.  I don't know why someone hasn't designed space heaters that are bitcoin miners.  What would the cost/benefit be?

[Sweminer777]

What types of damage could the machine takes if they are placed outside in the scandinavian winter.

whit roof . no walls ?

any overclock pocibilities?


Let's say s5 machines sp20s ?

this is the idea.

The Blow will be outside and the intake will be pulled from downside.


PLacing the Miners on the balconi the intake should not bring any moisture from the downside.

Weather is pretty dry were i live.

The little box will be weather prooff so no water or snow will be getting inside.

I don't know if this is a good idea but I am facing a long cold winter and plan to use my miners as heaters.  I live in a small apartment and can get away with spending a lot less on heat while my miners run.  I don't know why someone hasn't designed space heaters that are bitcoin miners.  What would the cost/benefit be?

Well i was going to use them as heaters aswell, but apartments share liquid heating system, so i can not gain any benefit  as i can not shut down the heaters to save money it is just not a possible option.

I could  get the house warmer than usual whit hot fresh air..


I am still checking how SP20 is doing, but im astuck at 1650ghz as highest whit normal temps and fans at 100%.

Waiting for colder temps and the new thermal compund.


I will defeninitly have s5's inside the house heating the house but if i benefit from colt to overclock i will overlock them outside in the balcony..

ill be updating more soon

[SerenaL]

Condensation can still happen, even if you weather proof it. People have tried these sort of experiments with gaming computers and it never turns out so good.

[Sweminer777]

Condensation can still happen, even if you weather proof it. People have tried these sort of experiments with gaming computers and it never turns out so good.

Well condensation only happens when you have a high humidity ambient.

Wich skandinavian is not a humidity friendly place. air is cold and dry.

what i know is that KNC have open data centers and there is were i  got my idea of as i guess they run this in winter aswell.

They close the electric gates if needed but they are never 100% close, always making  some airflow whit half open gates atleast.

[Betwrong]

my electric bill is 0.05 cents kwh

Do you mean $0.05 kwh? I can't imagine such a low price as 0.05 cents kwh. Even $0.05 kwh is pretty low too.

[Sweminer777]

my electric bill is 0.05 cents kwh

Do you mean $0.05 kwh? I can't imagine such a low price as 0.05 cents kwh. Even $0.05 kwh is pretty low too.

Yeah still quite high for running few mahcines .

Global market has statet that Electricity will keep falling down as the usage keeps raising they need to compete whit the global prices.

This is for 2016 the prices would be falling 0.01- 0.02 usd and some more .

[torepia]

my electric bill is 0.05 cents kwh

Do you mean $0.05 kwh? I can't imagine such a low price as 0.05 cents kwh. Even $0.05 kwh is pretty low too.

Yeah still quite high for running few mahcines .

Global market has statet that Electricity will keep falling down as the usage keeps raising they need to compete whit the global prices.

This is for 2016 the prices would be falling 0.01- 0.02 usd and some more .

0.05$/kwh is very cheap tbh! Prices are gonna go up imo.. ^^

He's picking on your grammar btw, 0.05 cent = 0.00005$, you obviously don't have 0.00005$/kwh prices

[Sweminer777]

my electric bill is 0.05 cents kwh

Do you mean $0.05 kwh? I can't imagine such a low price as 0.05 cents kwh. Even $0.05 kwh is pretty low too.

Yeah still quite high for running few mahcines .

Global market has statet that Electricity will keep falling down as the usage keeps raising they need to compete whit the global prices.

This is for 2016 the prices would be falling 0.01- 0.02 usd and some more .

0.05$/kwh is very cheap tbh! Prices are gonna go up imo.. ^^

He's picking on your grammar btw, 0.05 cent = 0.00005$, you obviously don't have 0.00005$/kwh prices

is not a cent after 0. ? haha ,

But prices will keep falling, i've made some research.

Global comsumption is getting higher.

It don't mean it will go down to almost free from nowehre, it will take some time , specially were it is costly it might even take longer.

Companies always try to get you into contracts because the prices get lowered so if you bind yourself you will be paying 2 - 4 times more than what it should cost at current market price.

[torepia]

Excatly. So 0.05 CENT are how many dollars? 

Well sure, electricity cost might go down. But grid-fee or whatever you call it, will go up! At least here in Norway!