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October 16, 2015, 01:46:13 AM |
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10....Nd7
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October 16, 2015, 03:21:57 AM |
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Bd7
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dre1982
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October 16, 2015, 06:48:55 AM |
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second vote for Bd7.
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October 16, 2015, 10:19:08 PM |
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By my count: 3 votes Nd7, 1 vote Bd7 I am following the CT discussions. The first CryptoNote coin to add Confidential Transactions will receive a huge amount of attention from the bitcoin community (many of whom have rejected the very idea of alt coins so far). The current CryptoNote community today is tiny compared to how large it may be once more merchants embrace it and something like this happens. |
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boolberry (OP)
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October 17, 2015, 12:01:34 AM |
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Current positionBased on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play Nd7. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC. Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)white to move  1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Qxd4 a6 5.c4 Nc6 6.Qe3 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 8.Be2 Nf6 9.O-O O-O 10.h3 Nd7
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October 17, 2015, 01:37:36 AM |
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h3 to stop Ng4
those moves are very ineffective. It better to develop. Will post tomorrow a game I just played at the club where you can see why. I don't see Ng4 as that dangerous (we can just move the queen) but I'm going to vote for h3 because I don't like having to go on the defensive.
I see no point in debating because O-O looks fine and I agree with smooth that Ng4 is not "dangerous". However h3 is also a good move. See this game: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1802118&kpage=39.h3 would lead to literally the exact same position. In that game black played 9....Nd7 and 10....Nde5 It is not hard to imagine how h3 could be helpful since Ng4 and Nde5 accomplishes the same thing (as Nd7 and Nde5) and makes white move the queen again. So if any time is "wasted" with h3, time is potentially gained by not having to move the queen in response to Ng4 on its way to e5. We have a nice center with white. The problem is finding an easy way to develop our pieces to good squares. For example, we would like to play b3 and Bb2 but it is not always so easy for tactical reasons on the long diagonal. Svidler ended up "wasting" a move with Rb1 in a failed attempt to prepare it. We may want to talk about another plan besides Rb1 based on the game linked above. We could just skip Rb1 and just play b3. I don't see where Rb1 is needed, although maybe it helps a deter an attack on that side a bit. EDIT: Oh, okay the pawn at b2 is protecting the c3 knight from being pinned once black moves the knight (as in above game). Hmm. 11.b3 followed by 12.Bb2 Last move 10.b3 would have failed to 10.b3 Nxe4 11.Nxe4 Bxa1 or 11.Qxe4 Bxc3 but with the knight on d7 we should be safe now. |
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October 17, 2015, 01:41:48 AM |
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11.b3 followed by 12.Bb2
Last move b3 would have failed to Nxe4 because of the pin but with the knight on d7 we should be safe now without the need to play Rb1 first.
I vote for 11. b3; however there are lines where I would play 12 Rd1 rather than Bb2. |
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October 17, 2015, 01:44:27 AM |
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11.b3 followed by 12.Bb2
Last move b3 would have failed to Nxe4 because of the pin but with the knight on d7 we should be safe now without the need to play Rb1 first.
I vote for 11. b3; however there are lines where I would play 12 Rd1 rather than Bb2. Good point. You are right that our next move should depend on how our opponent reacts. |
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October 17, 2015, 08:05:52 PM |
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11. b3
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October 17, 2015, 10:22:55 PM |
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The debate in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1211093.0 and related subreddit post is quite interesting. I wish it was as civilized as the technical discussions I have seen in this thread. Maybe my view is simplistic since my current focus is just to learn more about cryptography. I have no economic incentive to favor one coin or developer over another. |
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boolberry (OP)
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October 18, 2015, 12:38:04 AM |
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Current positionBased on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play b3. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC. Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)black to move  1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Qxd4 a6 5.c4 Nc6 6.Qe3 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 8.Be2 Nf6 9.O-O O-O 10.h3 Nd7 11.b3
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boolberry (OP)
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October 18, 2015, 12:52:18 AM
Last edit: October 18, 2015, 03:22:19 AM by boolberry |
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The debate in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1211093.0 and related subreddit post is quite interesting. I wish it was as civilized as the technical discussions I have seen in this thread. Maybe my view is simplistic since my current focus is just to learn more about cryptography. I have no economic incentive to favor one coin or developer over another. You are right that is is easier to remain neutral when you have no vested interest. I think most of us are weighted in favor of one coin or another even if we have a position in several. That does not mean we cannot remain civil and learn from each other. Open source software is built with cooperation! There has indeed been some informative CryptoNote discussion in this thread. I am glad it interests you. Your chess thread has become quite popular! I like the problems you have been posting. |
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boolberry (OP)
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October 18, 2015, 03:22:44 AM |
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I vote Nc5
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dre1982
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October 18, 2015, 05:19:17 AM |
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newb4now
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October 18, 2015, 06:52:42 PM |
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Qb6
lets trade queens
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boolberry (OP)
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October 18, 2015, 11:30:29 PM
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Current positionBased on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Bb2. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC. Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)black to move  1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Qxd4 a6 5.c4 Nc6 6.Qe3 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 8.Be2 Nf6 9.O-O O-O 10.h3 Nd7 11.b3 Nc5 12.Bb2
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October 19, 2015, 12:34:39 AM |
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Current positionBased on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play Nc5. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC. Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)white to move  1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Qxd4 a6 5.c4 Nc6 6.Qe3 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 8.Be2 Nf6 9.O-O O-O 10.h3 Nd7 11.b3 Nc5 12.Bb2 |
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