Avalon 6 Vs Antminer S7, which one you will choose?

[notlist3d]

I am glad to hear this, but the whole process is truly convoluted to say the least.
Spond was providing HST on the airbill. I don't see why BMT cannot do the same-the number that you researched.
as far as UPS/FEDEX from China-UPS is a bit faster, FEDEX is a bit cheaper and FEDEX is more prone to get stuck according to others (over the last two years or so), but i never experienced this myself. i am using UPS from BMT, but FEDEX ground domestically, especially in vicinity as it is both cheap and fast.

Same here.  I've tried both and liked the speed of UPS.  I've had UPS do a total of 9 shipments for me from China thus far.  8 of them went flawlessly.  This last one, however, ended up creating cause for concern.  I've had people who chose both UPS and FedEx go through a similar situation as mine.

Hence, the reasoning behind me taking the following action:

1.  Add the proper HST CODE out to the right of my street address for my account at bitmaintech.com
2.  Add the proper HST CODE out to the right of my Federal EIN/SSN number for my business on my account at bitmaintech.com
3.  Have UPS call me from now on anytime a shipment for me arrived inside the US from another country to allow me to provide the proper HST CODE.
4.  Add a NOTE to the carrier on bitmain's website when placing the order that includes the proper HST CODE.

UPS and Fedex both seem to work fine for me.  DHL is really hit/miss depending on where you live, I live on the edge of one of the routes.  This means the DHL guy receives it quickly then sometimes ships through USPS mail when he does not want to drive to my edge of his route.... so sucks horribly and adds day's.

I really like UPS thought.  I've had probley the best luck with them overall.

[dmwardjr]

UPS and Fedex both seem to work fine for me.  DHL is really hit/miss depending on where you live, I live on the edge of one of the routes.  This means the DHL guy receives it quickly then sometimes ships through USPS mail when he does not want to drive to my edge of his route.... so sucks horribly and adds day's.

I really like UPS thought.  I've had probley the best luck with them overall.

Same here...  Better luck with UPS.  The only time I use DHL is for any shipments I may get from J4bberwock in France.  The DHL driver will call me and I will meet them at Wendy's Restraunt about 15 minutes away to avoid having to wait longer.

[VirosaGITS]

UPS and Fedex both seem to work fine for me.  DHL is really hit/miss depending on where you live, I live on the edge of one of the routes.  This means the DHL guy receives it quickly then sometimes ships through USPS mail when he does not want to drive to my edge of his route.... so sucks horribly and adds day's.

I really like UPS thought.  I've had probley the best luck with them overall.

Same here...  Better luck with UPS.  The only time I use DHL is for any shipments I may get from J4bberwock in France.  The DHL driver will call me and I will meet them at Wendy's Restraunt about 15 minutes away to avoid having to wait longer.

I see, i used DHL to receive the one B8 i bought and it took an amazing 4 days(to Québec), so i received it the same week, i was able to pay duty online to avoid "delays" even though that was probably BS. And it was the cheapest.

All in all i liked my experience, UPS tend to be a bit slow, though i never had any actual problem with them whatsoever. Fedex however, i had really bad experience and i plan on not using them ever again. I had good experience with CP/USPS too but its not an option here.

[notlist3d]

UPS and Fedex both seem to work fine for me.  DHL is really hit/miss depending on where you live, I live on the edge of one of the routes.  This means the DHL guy receives it quickly then sometimes ships through USPS mail when he does not want to drive to my edge of his route.... so sucks horribly and adds day's.

I really like UPS thought.  I've had probley the best luck with them overall.

Same here...  Better luck with UPS.  The only time I use DHL is for any shipments I may get from J4bberwock in France.  The DHL driver will call me and I will meet them at Wendy's Restraunt about 15 minutes away to avoid having to wait longer.

I see, i used DHL to receive the one B8 i bought and it took an amazing 4 days(to Québec), so i received it the same week, i was able to pay duty online to avoid "delays" even though that was probably BS. And it was the cheapest.

All in all i liked my experience, UPS tend to be a bit slow, though i never had any actual problem with them whatsoever. Fedex however, i had really bad experience and i plan on not using them ever again. I had good experience with CP/USPS too but its not an option here.

And everyone has their own best.  Once you find it stick with it.  DHL is only one I have had not deliver and ship through USPS to my door when they could have delivered that day, so they add 2-3 extra day's on almost anything I get with them.

But for some they are in the center of the drivers area and it is good on DHL.  Just varies for each person.  But DHL if you don't get "DHL Door to Door" which most packages don't have (in my experience at least) they have the right to ship 3rd party like USPS to get to you.  And it's all up to driver on if they do that, so edge of delivery area experiences this much more.

[talks_cheep]

I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

[philipma1957]

I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

We all hope for better.  I am convinced miners see the glass as half full and the server is coming by to top it off.😀

[adaseb]

I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

But if the price of BTC doesn't sky rocket or if it stays the same or goes down, your miner will be worth something at least.

[notlist3d]

I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

But if the price of BTC doesn't sky rocket or if it stays the same or goes down, your miner will be worth something at least.

That is the thing if you use it and bought something and it goes down... you might get a better deal.  Part of this is luck and part of this is news, we have had some crap news in last month.  Cryptsy and dev who wanted to leave with a bang.

So you can never predict what will happen for sure.  I think long term holding it will go up.  But how much and when.... not sure on that.

[VirosaGITS]

Right now i got both A6s and a S7 B8 and i'm strongly self-debating getting one last unit. I have strongly mixed feeling between getting something like a Batch 7 S7 or any other S7 that has high chip count or high efficiency or a last A6.

I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

We all hope for better.  I am convinced miners see the glass as half full and the server is coming by to top it off.😀

Its not that bad, with cheap electricity, you can be looking at a slowish break even at current BTC price + average 5-7% diff raises until halving. But if the price of BTC keep up, it would actually be great profit.

And when its time to sell, the unit will still be worth something, so thats a plus.

[newcoins1978]

None of them. I rather wait for the next generation miners.
Looking at the difficulty i got no trust this machine will even get me my investment back, let alone make a profit.

[mavericklm]

edit after b8 has arrived in the house:

s7 any batch but not 6, 8 & 9!

[VirosaGITS]

None of them. I rather wait for the next generation miners.
Looking at the difficulty i got no trust this machine will even get me my investment back, let alone make a profit.

But when the next batch arrive, the difficulty will raise again like it is now and you will see about the same profits as now. It will always be like this. The problem is probably your running costs and not the miner's efficiency.

[mavericklm]

1. In mining you should mine yesterday....

2. If he is speaking about concurrency between miner producers, he is right, but go back and read no. 1 again....

[notlist3d]

None of them. I rather wait for the next generation miners.
Looking at the difficulty i got no trust this machine will even get me my investment back, let alone make a profit.

But when the next batch arrive, the difficulty will raise again like it is now and you will see about the same profits as now. It will always be like this. The problem is probably your running costs and not the miner's efficiency.

A lot of the people who say "I'm waiting on next gen" never end up being miners.  Truth is there always will be a next gen.  Does not matter what miner you buy it will one day be replaced.    A lot justify it with themself's and say they are waiting.... but the truth is most never get in the game.

Having is coming if your going to mine do some ROI and jump in.  If your sitting on side you might think about buying BTC, is only other thing that some can argue it's better all depends on situation.

[talks_cheep]

A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

[VirosaGITS]

A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

I don,t know about that.

Sell ASIC's when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone go in a buying frenzy. Buy Miners when Bitcoin is low. Same thing with BTC for buying, i guess.

I'd rather just have more miners however.

[talks_cheep]

A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

I don,t know about that.

Sell ASIC's when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone go in a buying frenzy. Buy Miners when Bitcoin is low. Same thing with BTC for buying, i guess.

I'd rather just have more miners however.

You know nothing, VirosaGITS!

"Sell bitcoins when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone goes in a buying frenzy. Buy bitcoins when bitcoin is low. Buy miners when bitcoin is high, I guess"

There I fixed it for you!

[VirosaGITS]

A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

I don,t know about that.

Sell ASIC's when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone go in a buying frenzy. Buy Miners when Bitcoin is low. Same thing with BTC for buying, i guess.

I'd rather just have more miners however.

You know nothing, VirosaGITS!

"Sell bitcoins when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone goes in a buying frenzy. Buy bitcoins when bitcoin is low. Buy miners when bitcoin is high, I guess"

There I fixed it for you!

Naw people buy Miners at crazy high prices when the BTC price because they think the price will continue raising non stop or something. You could sell a S5 for 500$ last time.

[notlist3d]

A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

I don,t know about that.

Sell ASIC's when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone go in a buying frenzy. Buy Miners when Bitcoin is low. Same thing with BTC for buying, i guess.

I'd rather just have more miners however.

You know nothing, VirosaGITS!

"Sell bitcoins when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone goes in a buying frenzy. Buy bitcoins when bitcoin is low. Buy miners when bitcoin is high, I guess"

There I fixed it for you!

Naw people buy Miners at crazy high prices when the BTC price because they think the price will continue raising non stop or something. You could sell a S5 for 500$ last time.

I have to give VirosaGITS credit, he is actually out there buying miners and mining with them.   He is a miner I could be seen as siding with him as I to enjoy mining.

If you buy a miner when BTC is "low" and it rises you can make money off of sell as long as price did not go down and difficulty is not surging.  We saw this with machines when we were getting "low" bumps on difficulty for the longest time if BTC rised you could sell a miner for higher.     With difficulty jumping so much right now and btc not jumping it's hard to show this.  But it has happened in past.

On your BTC being "cheap" under 600 I don't think that is really true.  If market believed that we would be much closer to 600 then 400.  We hope it rises, but were not there right now.   Cheap was when we hit 350 or so not to long ago.... that was quick profit for some.

[chikenfeed]

I'll take a delta over pretty much anything else on the market, 8 out of 7 days of the week. There aren't many others I would trust to keep a $2k investment from burning itself down.

Seriously? There are plenty of good fans out there that are reliable and quieter, Noctuas like i said earlier are pretty damn prestigious in the fan world, I haven't heard of anyone having issues with them.

dont know about the other s5 and s4 n stuff but my s7 antminer fan died and i tried 2 of the top of the line Noctua fans they went at about 3500rpm and the air coming out wasen't even half of what the stock fans do, my s7 started heating up fast so i returned the Noctuas and now ordered the Original Delta 12038 fan 12V 3.9A TFC1212DE hope the voltage gona be ok for the s7 not sure if they are exactly the same amps as the stock fans.