[To Theymos] Why was Goat banned?

[smoothie]

BadBear

I don't follow goats posts but I hear and BELIEVE what you are saying.  I think Phinn when through a phase like that too a while back during the initial pirate witch hunt.   I think some of my eventually need  a 12-step program to be able to step away from bitcoin (I'm not kidding).

Bitcoin is like a drug....JUSSSSS GOTTTAAAH  HAAAAV ITTTTT! 

[BCB]

PLEASE BAN SMOOTHIE

His ignore button can't possible get any darker.

[smoothie]

PLEASE BAN SMOOTHIE

His ignore button can't possible get any darker.

Oh on grounds of what?

I've been good. I have been adding meaningful content and even giving people credit for things they prove to be true (i.e. Goat not running with the money he was sent by users).

 

P.S. Perhaps we can get you banned for trying to be the goodie-two-shoes who is asking for people to be banned without good reasons?? I'm for it! LOL!

[BCB]

For using BOLD BLUE TEXT and too many emoticons for starters....

[2112]

EDIT: Atlas actually just made a pretty good thread.  I optimistically retract my ban suggestion. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119885.msg1291504#msg1291504

Acording to the above-mentioned thread Atlas has had self-imposed a ban on himself.

I will not questions things any further. I submit. I am gone.

[repentance]

Acording to the above-mentioned thread Atlas has had self-imposed a ban on himself.

I will not questions things any further. I submit. I am gone.

Like Atlas has never done that before.

[Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza]

PLEASE BAN SMOOTHIE

His ignore button can't possible get any darker.

Hi, I'm smoothie's biggest fan!

[DiCE1904]

I am also very glad to see this. I got very tired of seeing Goat start pointless fights and ruin threads.

He wasn't discussing anything anymore, just restating the same points over and over. 

agreed

[cryptoanarchist]

Can Theymos please point out what post by Goat was worthy of a permanent ban? I just red through his last posts and saw nothing deserving of that.

[Transisto]

Atlas does add to the discussion once every 300 post,

[Beans]

The censorship is getting absolutely out of control, you need to be aware that by posting this question you are at risk of being banned.

Check out here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118154.0

User Rarity was banned for criticizing Theymos.  Dancing Dan posted a thread asking for discussion about this and was banned for it as well.  The Iron Curtain is falling on Bitcointalk, we must all watch what we say around Dear Leader Theymos and his Central Committee of yes-men.  If I stop posting on these forums soon, it means I was banned for pointing this out too.

Seriously? Rarity was spamming garbage all over the place. Other then EskimoBob, Rarity would be my top pick. All the coins goat scammed on pirates behalf should have got him banned in my opinion. He's definitely been acting arrogant since the default. I don't keep up with all his ramblings, but I don't see what he's contributed to this community. He mainly just causes drama and trolls glbse threads.

[greyhawk]

EDIT: Atlas actually just made a pretty good thread.  I optimistically retract my ban suggestion. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119885.msg1291504#msg1291504

Acording to the above-mentioned thread Atlas has had self-imposed a ban on himself.

I will not questions things any further. I submit. I am gone.

Yeah, we've been there before. Expect a Atlas suicide threat thread in about 12 hours.

[caffeinewriter]

theymos if that's the criteria could I give you a list of about a dozen other users who should also be banned for the same reason.

And what value is Atlas adding to the conversation??

Or Maria. Or those noobs that only post "cool" five times for their minimum posts.

[riX]

I'm not against banning people in general, but I think there should be predefined forum rules, and all bans or other actions should be according to those.
Also, when a ban is set, the responsible mod/admin should post stating that he banned some user and which rule was broken.

One rule could definitely be "All posts should have content of high quality." (I don't know if this applies to goat).

[Ente]

I decided that he harms discussions too much to be allowed to continue. He posts more than Atlas and his posts are of lower quality. When he argues about something, he ignores all of the arguments of his opponents and just repeats the same nonsense over and over. I suspect that he may be intentionally trying to stir up drama in order to hurt the forum and the community.

The ban will not expire automatically. I may review it later.

I am disappointed.
This is a horrible reason to ban someone.

I had goat on ignore since a while. Problem solved for me.
Atlas derails threads? Then too many people still read him. If they don't ignore him, they obviously are not interested in removing him from the forum altogether.

I already abandoned a forum as a senior member when censorship started.. I am worried and pretty surprised.. Here, in my Bitcoin forum? Really?

Ente

[repentance]

One rule could definitely be "All posts should have content of high quality." (I don't know if this applies to goat).

That's an incredibly subjective benchmark, especially on a forum whose first principal is free speech.

A lot of possible solutions require a fair bit of active moderation.  Splitting derailed threads works well of you can do it quickly enough.  You can split and lock the derailment and send it to some wasteland forum, but you need to be able to catch the derailment when it first happens otherwise it's a pain in the ass to do it manually once you've got a couple of pages of legitimate posts interspersed with derailing posts.

[Raoul Duke]

Also, when a ban is set, the responsible mod/admin should post stating that he banned some user and which rule was broken.

lolwut
You're not a member in many forums, I see... On 90% of the forums I have an account with they ban anyone who just asks why someone else was banned. They don't even get the chance to question the reasons, unlike here, where it seems to be an habit to start a shitstorm because someone else was banned.
Moderators and Administrators owe you no explanation for their decisions or actions when those decisions and actions don't affect you, even if you think they do owe you something.
No one forced you to register, and if you don't like to be here no one forces you to stay. Just press the logout button and go.

[Ente]

1) Set clear rules about when and for how long to halt/ban someone

2) Have one central thread where each case is announced (and except that the thread stays locked)

This is the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM. Of course then I still don't like that (in my opinion) baseless banning. But these two points at least set you one step above despotism.

3)

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Ente

[Ente]

Also, when a ban is set, the responsible mod/admin should post stating that he banned some user and which rule was broken.

lolwut
You're not a member in many forums, I see... On 90% of the forums I have an account with they ban anyone who just asks why someone else was banned. They don't even get the chance to question the reasons, unlike here, where it seems to be an habit to start a shitstorm because someone else was banned.
Moderators and Administrators owe you no explanation for their decisions or actions when those decisions and actions don't affect you, even if you think they do owe you something.
No one forced you to register, and if you don't like to be here no one forces you to stay. Just press the logout button and go.

..glad you are no mod then.

Ente

[Raoul Duke]

Also, when a ban is set, the responsible mod/admin should post stating that he banned some user and which rule was broken.

lolwut
You're not a member in many forums, I see... On 90% of the forums I have an account with they ban anyone who just asks why someone else was banned. They don't even get the chance to question the reasons, unlike here, where it seems to be an habit to start a shitstorm because someone else was banned.
Moderators and Administrators owe you no explanation for their decisions or actions when those decisions and actions don't affect you, even if you think they do owe you something.
No one forced you to register, and if you don't like to be here no one forces you to stay. Just press the logout button and go.

..glad you are no mod then.

Ente

errrmmm... yes, I am...
And the only persons I owe explanations for my actions as a Janitor are Administrators and maybe Global Moderators.