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Author Topic: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1]  (Read 152154 times)
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January 18, 2013, 11:34:28 AM
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Why is it normal in the BTC community to demand photos of products before they are released? It's not like Apple would show us the iphone 6 just so we could cream our panties in anticipation.

That said, Apple is apple and BTC is something else.

This is normal in any kind of community. Usually you can see what you're buying, besides buying a lottery ticket.

Well, a pot of gold is kinda like a lottery ticket. :-)

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January 18, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
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It will cause delay once we start shipping, it was pretty much a heads up before the 20th. I'll get to you guys early next week. I simply haven't gotten around to double check yet due to being swarmed.

Can you give us an update about this 'order status = Processing' problem and what delay we can expect ?
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January 18, 2013, 04:28:37 PM
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when is THE day?
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January 18, 2013, 04:34:09 PM
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when is THE day?

1d ~21h to go.....
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January 18, 2013, 04:43:52 PM
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Countdown at: http://www.avalon-asics.com/

Looks like it's set for Sunday 20-Jan 12:00 PM UTC, which is Sunday 20-Jan 8:00 PM CST (China Standard Time).

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January 18, 2013, 05:21:16 PM
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Why is it normal in the BTC community to demand photos of products before they are released? It's not like Apple would show us the iphone 6 just so we could cream our panties in anticipation.

That said, Apple is apple and BTC is something else.
Normally I'm with you, but they did say that they'd release a demo...  Roll Eyes

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January 18, 2013, 05:23:33 PM
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I wish them the best ! Go team China Wink

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January 18, 2013, 06:23:33 PM
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you guys noticed the title for the www.avalon-asic.com website?

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world's first consumer bitcoin mining ASIC.

sounds pretty confident.

I just saw this. what about you?

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January 18, 2013, 07:04:45 PM
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Are there any confirmed miners like cgminer that will work or has worked with them?

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January 18, 2013, 07:08:36 PM
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Are there any confirmed miners like cgminer that will work or has worked with them?
They had stated that they would be using a version of CGMiner, but Kano pointed out that they cannot use an altered version of CGMiner without first releasing their code changes, which they have not done.

Edit: Meh I was confused. Turns out they can ship an image with a modified CGMiner without having to publicly release the source code.

What they did promise was a system image for their WRT that would include a version of CGMiner. This is what they havn't made public yet, to my knowledge. Again, I got a little confused, so apologies.

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January 18, 2013, 07:12:26 PM
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Are there any confirmed miners like cgminer that will work or has worked with them?

It's to come with it's own on-board miner host.  All you need to do is plug Avalon into a DHCP-enabled LAN, configure using a browser (presumably), and you're mining.

I believe internally it's to run cgminer or bfgminer (I forget which), and is to be all open source and friendly so you can connect your own miner host if you wish instead of using the onboard one.

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January 18, 2013, 07:37:06 PM
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perhaps they feel if they ship first, they can catch BFL with their pants down.

If they release a demo now, BFL might rush to ship theirs and negate the Avalon advantage.  Just a thought coming from an ex-bASIC preorderer.

BFL is rushing to ship theirs as best they can. They have nothing to ship, and Avalon shipping or not won't speed up the fact that their chips aren't ready to ship.

Avalon could demo now and start taking preorders for the next batch in late Feb. Given the delays BFL has had, it wouldn't be too far fetched that customers with high preorder numbers might jump ship and join new money in buying Avalon. The could sell a ridiculous number of units in a short time with proof that they have a working, mining ASIC.

That they don't, 3 days before their countdown expires... We'll see. Maybe they'll just delay a couple days, but I'd be shocked if they had units in the mail 55 hours from now.

True but BFL may have more expensive options they don't wish to do at this time.  For example Tom with the bASIC had mentioned assembly in the USA vs China which would be faster but cost more.  Avalon showing off their device might make it worthwhile for BFL to pay more for domestic assembly to maintain their reputation.  However if Avalon just ships with no notice, BFL will not have the time to switch production lines.
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January 18, 2013, 07:54:06 PM
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make it worthwhile for BFL to pay more for domestic assembly to maintain their reputation.  However if Avalon just ships with no notice, BFL will not have the time to switch production lines.

Please know your subject before posting:

BFL is already doing it domistically in the US

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January 18, 2013, 08:04:43 PM
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Are there any confirmed miners like cgminer that will work or has worked with them?
They had stated that they would be using a version of CGMiner, but Kano pointed out that they cannot use an altered version of CGMiner without first releasing their code changes, which they have not done.
Kano is wrong, if he actually said this. The license cgminer and BFGMiner are distributed under allows them to keep their code semi-private, so long as they ship the devices with the code (including instructions for putting it on the device). Of course, any customer who receives this may do what they want with it (including send it to Con), but there is no reason to assume they need to send it to him themselves beforehand.

Also, I'm not aware of any statement that they are switching to the cgminer fork instead of sticking with BFGMiner.

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January 18, 2013, 08:10:35 PM
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Are there any confirmed miners like cgminer that will work or has worked with them?
They had stated that they would be using a version of CGMiner, but Kano pointed out that they cannot use an altered version of CGMiner without first releasing their code changes, which they have not done.
Kano is wrong, if he actually said this. The license cgminer and BFGMiner are distributed under allows them to keep their code semi-private, so long as they ship the devices with the code (including instructions for putting it on the device). Of course, any customer who receives this may do what they want with it (including send it to Con), but there is no reason to assume they need to send it to him themselves beforehand.

Also, I'm not aware of any statement that they are switching to the cgminer fork instead of sticking with BFGMiner.
I may have misread him, so if I did, I"m sorry. It's been a weird couple of days. Maybe I'm thinking of them saying that they would release an image with the included CGMiner, and they never did?

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January 18, 2013, 08:13:42 PM
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I for one can't wait to get in on the next batch.
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January 18, 2013, 08:24:07 PM
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Are there any confirmed miners like cgminer that will work or has worked with them?
They had stated that they would be using a version of CGMiner, but Kano pointed out that they cannot use an altered version of CGMiner without first releasing their code changes, which they have not done.

That is incorrect. They can release their software, and then wait for requests for source code, and fulfill them as per GPL. They do NOT have to pre-release their modifications.
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January 18, 2013, 08:25:38 PM
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Are there any confirmed miners like cgminer that will work or has worked with them?
They had stated that they would be using a version of CGMiner, but Kano pointed out that they cannot use an altered version of CGMiner without first releasing their code changes, which they have not done.

That is incorrect. They can release their software, and then wait for requests for source code, and fulfill them as per GPL. They do NOT have to pre-release their modifications.
The GPL allows the product to ship with an offer to anyone to send the code. If they elected this option, they could not keep it even semi-private, since anyone (not only their customers) would have a right to request the code from them.

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January 18, 2013, 08:26:02 PM
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Are there any confirmed miners like cgminer that will work or has worked with them?
They had stated that they would be using a version of CGMiner, but Kano pointed out that they cannot use an altered version of CGMiner without first releasing their code changes, which they have not done.
That is incorrect. They can release their software, and then wait for requests for source code, and fulfill them as per GPL. They do NOT have to pre-release their modifications.
Ya LJR already stated that above. Thanks tho.

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January 18, 2013, 08:38:03 PM
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Also, I'm not aware of any statement that they are switching to the cgminer fork instead of sticking with BFGMiner.

I see your reality distortion field is in full operation. BFGMiner was forked from CGMiner. It will always be so, no matter how many times you try to convince others of the inverse.

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