IOTA

[yassin54]

yassin54,
perhaps it is better to show how much in % of the total sum will be donated?
e.g. now was promised about 6 500 000 IOTA from the deal to the foundation. It's more than 30% from 21 million IOTA.
Is this change in your document possible? Thank you.

I will try to change this later.

Thanks secc!! 

[Seccour]

yassin54,
perhaps it is better to show how much in % of the total sum will be donated?
e.g. now was promised about 6 500 000 IOTA from the deal to the foundation. It's more than 30% from 21 million IOTA.
Is this change in your document possible? Thank you.

[iotanol]

Seccour, yassin54,
thank you very much.

[Jabbawa]

100%

EDIT: sorry, just seen you have added me, thought you'd missed my post.

[yassin54]

100%

EDIT: sorry, just seen you have added me, thought you'd missed my post.

Yes
Thanks man for your help!! 

[LitcoinCollector]

Also 100% donation.

[yassin54]

Also 100% donation.

add!!
Thanks Bro!! 

[rlh]

Glad to hear about all of the fund shifting going around and the new "old" GUI.

This morning I was thinking about all of this and I was about ready to speak up and say that we need to completely stop focusing on getting a UI.  Yes, it makes sense in the early days for testing but Iota is for IoT.  Any IoT device that will need some form of UI will need to implement it itself.  If it uses Iota, it will have to have it's own variation of a transaction interface, specific to the device.

The IRI is just to get the ball rolling and we must keep that perspective.  Iota is way to ambitious to be put in the standard cryptocurrency box of just a coin with some form of wallet UI.  It's not a cryptocurrency.  It's a token-based transaction system for the IoT and with 0-fee messaging, it could become the communications protocol for millions of devices.

[btcxyzzz]

From what I understand by googling competitors of IOTA are Filament, 21 Inc and IBM ADEPT project.
Lisk and wave are just cryptocoins, and as Crypti investor (which codebase inherented by Lisk) I know that this thing doesn't show natural traction (dapps in dappstore).

Every altcoin is competitor to every altcoin.

[50cent_rapper]

From what I understand by googling competitors of IOTA are Filament, 21 Inc and IBM ADEPT project.
Lisk and wave are just cryptocoins, and as Crypti investor (which codebase inherented by Lisk) I know that this thing doesn't show natural traction (dapps in dappstore).

Every altcoin is competitor to every altcoin.

And every human is competitor to every human.

[Cryptoartist]

From what I understand by googling competitors of IOTA are Filament, 21 Inc and IBM ADEPT project.
Lisk and wave are just cryptocoins, and as Crypti investor (which codebase inherented by Lisk) I know that this thing doesn't show natural traction (dapps in dappstore).

Every altcoin is competitor to every altcoin.

And every human is competitor to every human.

And every atom is a competitor to every atom

Our diverse universe somehow came to form out of this eternal battle of dog-eat-dog competition.

[rdanneskjoldr]

Glad to hear about all of the fund shifting going around and the new "old" GUI.

This morning I was thinking about all of this and I was about ready to speak up and say that we need to completely stop focusing on getting a UI.  Yes, it makes sense in the early days for testing but Iota is for IoT.  Any IoT device that will need some form of UI will need to implement it itself.  If it uses Iota, it will have to have it's own variation of a transaction interface, specific to the device.

The IRI is just to get the ball rolling and we must keep that perspective.  Iota is way to ambitious to be put in the standard cryptocurrency box of just a coin with some form of wallet UI.  It's not a cryptocurrency.  It's a token-based transaction system for the IoT and with 0-fee messaging, it could become the communications protocol for millions of devices.

But is it that necessary to close the door to human use cases which could be also important?

[Cryptoartist]

Glad to hear about all of the fund shifting going around and the new "old" GUI.

This morning I was thinking about all of this and I was about ready to speak up and say that we need to completely stop focusing on getting a UI.  Yes, it makes sense in the early days for testing but Iota is for IoT.  Any IoT device that will need some form of UI will need to implement it itself.  If it uses Iota, it will have to have it's own variation of a transaction interface, specific to the device.

The IRI is just to get the ball rolling and we must keep that perspective.  Iota is way to ambitious to be put in the standard cryptocurrency box of just a coin with some form of wallet UI.  It's not a cryptocurrency.  It's a token-based transaction system for the IoT and with 0-fee messaging, it could become the communications protocol for millions of devices.

Point.
However the GUI can be beneficial in some ways -

1. Proof of concept for humans (zero fees, tangle vs. blockchain etc.)
2. Listing on exchanges so as to have an entry point for IOT enthusiasts to acquire some tokens for their pet projects.
3. Even though IOTA is IOT centric, i am not convinced (with my admittedly tiny understanding of the tech) that there will be no benefits of a zero-fee distributed ledger system for err.. human nodes shall we say. Of course, the architecture is designed with machines in mind (not all nodes seeing same tangle state at a given time, non-reusable addresses, non-enforceable tip selection algorithms, etc. etc.)

I mean we are talking about bitcoin-like properties without fees and scalability issues.
That in itself, is big enough to make people wonder.

Edit: Just a concluding thought, i think IOTA could very well be the bridge between the machines/sensors/AI economy and the human economy. Seamless interfacing on both ends, forming a mutually supportive and beneficial ecosystem.

[achimsmile]

Glad to hear about all of the fund shifting going around and the new "old" GUI.

This morning I was thinking about all of this and I was about ready to speak up and say that we need to completely stop focusing on getting a UI.  Yes, it makes sense in the early days for testing but Iota is for IoT.  Any IoT device that will need some form of UI will need to implement it itself.  If it uses Iota, it will have to have it's own variation of a transaction interface, specific to the device.

The IRI is just to get the ball rolling and we must keep that perspective.  Iota is way to ambitious to be put in the standard cryptocurrency box of just a coin with some form of wallet UI.  It's not a cryptocurrency.  It's a token-based transaction system for the IoT and with 0-fee messaging, it could become the communications protocol for millions of devices.

What you write could not be more true, although people on bct seem to ONLY care about the fanciness of the GUI. The question arises if we want to please users on bct or not. I'd say no, because Iota will not become widely used by bct users speculating, but by real world IoT usage.

The problem is that some Iota ICO investors are not very tech savy and would not be able to move funds around without a simple GUI. The interface is almost done, so it will get released anyway.

What we need are more proof of concepts, tinkerers, project devs, businesses implementing Iota etc.
I'm very optimistic that we'll get that once the tangle get's released into the wild.
If not, I'll definitely put up some bounties for good proof of concepts.

[rlh]

However the GUI can be beneficial in some ways -

*snip*
3. Even though IOTA is IOT centric, i am not convinced (with my admittedly tiny understanding of the tech) that there will be no benefits of a zero-fee distributed ledger system for err.. human nodes shall we say. Of course, the architecture is designed with machines in mind (not all nodes seeing same tangle state at a given time, non-reusable addresses, non-enforceable tip selection algorithms, etc. etc.)

I mean we are talking about bitcoin-like properties without fees and scalability issues.
That in itself, is big enough to make people wonder.
*snip

This is a VERY valid point and why I do hope that a good GUI wallet shows up.  In the short term, a simplistic GUI is good so that the "power user" types who've invested can easily test the software.  In the longer term, there is certainly no good reason why a solid GUI can't be created.  0-fees and (hopefully) fast confirmation times is, in my limited opinion, some of the most basic of advancements that I've been hoping for since I first read about bitcoin in early 2009. 

Many of the advancements that have taken place have centered around feature-creep, rather than fixing some of the most basic issues that could have the most profound (all though subtle) impact on crypto-currency adoption.

With that said, though.  We do not need to stay focused on the GUI.  It is just a small tool in a MUCH bigger project.  As such, I think it need to be a mid-priority requirement that could either come later or, better, members of the community could make their own special GUIs which could very easily be 100% HTML+Javascript.

[bitbytes]

I think Filament is a potential partner as it uses IBM ADEPT as its "blockchain", itself based on bitcoin/ethereum.

Here is a good article I haven't seen posted here that refers to it and also has several good biz dev/PR-awareness targets in it:

https://newsroom.cisco.com/feature-content?type=webcontent&articleId=1756804

- Alex Tapscott, coauthor with his father, Don Tapscott, of the "Blockchain Revolution" forthcoming book

- Filament (Reno, NV) http://filament.com/

- LO3 Lawrence Orsini, founder http://lo3energy.com/

- Transactive Grid  an open energy platform that will enable real-time smart metering of local energy generation which is a joint venture of LO3 and Consensus Systems (which seems to be a dev shop)

How is IOTA approaching biz dev?  I don't believe in decentralized biz dev, so someone needs to manage and prioritize outreach (target lists, status, goals, offers, manage technical resources, etc). Decentralized lead gen is fine, but then someone needs to followup with the latest materials and support, etc.  Be glad to help initially organize or do more as effort expands.

I can see that IOTA is mature story and not on exchange yet? any plans?

Yes, I'm in touch with 6 different big exchanges and working out a big 'marketing campaign' with them to boost the launch event further.

Just one question please with all the publicity and momentum  Lisk and waves are having at the moment and knowing Lisk will be released by the end of this month and Wave the following month,  don't you think you should launch IOTA before they do if not IOTA will be hidden in the shadows of WAVE and LISK, its just an opinion, I know I can be wrong

From what I understand by googling competitors of IOTA are Filament, 21 Inc and IBM ADEPT project.

Lisk and wave are just cryptocoins, and as Crypti investor (which codebase inherented by Lisk) I know that this thing doesn't show natural traction (dapps in dappstore).

P.S.
I donate my proceeds from the deal to foundation.

[bitbytes]

More about Filament. Venture backed and also has a hardware offering powered by a software stack.

http://www.coindesk.com/filament-nets-5-million-for-blockchain-based-internet-of-things-hardware/

I think Filament is a potential partner as it uses IBM ADEPT as its "blockchain", itself based on bitcoin/ethereum.

Here is a good article I haven't seen posted here that refers to it and also has several good biz dev/PR-awareness targets in it:

https://newsroom.cisco.com/feature-content?type=webcontent&articleId=1756804

- Alex Tapscott, coauthor with his father, Don Tapscott, of the "Blockchain Revolution" forthcoming book

- Filament (Reno, NV) http://filament.com/

- LO3 Lawrence Orsini, founder http://lo3energy.com/

- Transactive Grid  an open energy platform that will enable real-time smart metering of local energy generation which is a joint venture of LO3 and Consensus Systems (which seems to be a dev shop)

How is IOTA approaching biz dev?  I don't believe in decentralized biz dev, so someone needs to manage and prioritize outreach (target lists, status, goals, offers, manage technical resources, etc). Decentralized lead gen is fine, but then someone needs to followup with the latest materials and support, etc.  Be glad to help initially organize or do more as effort expands.

I can see that IOTA is mature story and not on exchange yet? any plans?

Yes, I'm in touch with 6 different big exchanges and working out a big 'marketing campaign' with them to boost the launch event further.

Just one question please with all the publicity and momentum  Lisk and waves are having at the moment and knowing Lisk will be released by the end of this month and Wave the following month,  don't you think you should launch IOTA before they do if not IOTA will be hidden in the shadows of WAVE and LISK, its just an opinion, I know I can be wrong

From what I understand by googling competitors of IOTA are Filament, 21 Inc and IBM ADEPT project.

Lisk and wave are just cryptocoins, and as Crypti investor (which codebase inherented by Lisk) I know that this thing doesn't show natural traction (dapps in dappstore).

P.S.
I donate my proceeds from the deal to foundation.

[marcus1986]

On the topic of Foundation: I see a lot of people want to pledge the proceeds from the 'Big deal' sales to the foundation. This is a great thing and I am very proud that we got such a forward thinking community that understand the importance of having continuous growth and active people ensuring future expansion of IOTA. If most of the pledged 'Big deal' proceeds go to the foundation I'll set the new limit on the Foundation to 30 million IOTA, instead of 50 million.

hi community IOTA
I have add new column % of the deal given to the Foundation    
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17d2k_0Xgy2SSFx6NWx2xyrgF9pFcs_Mr-GgVg5Uvzjw/edit?ts=56eac2b7#gid=0
if you can help me and posted how much % here
Thanks!!
and Thanks for Seccour for help me!!  

Hi, yassin! I want to change my donation. All iotas (50k+150k) comes to big deal. And 100% of the deal given to the Foundation. Thanks!

[Colombina]

Where can I buy IOTA?

[yassin54]

On the topic of Foundation: I see a lot of people want to pledge the proceeds from the 'Big deal' sales to the foundation. This is a great thing and I am very proud that we got such a forward thinking community that understand the importance of having continuous growth and active people ensuring future expansion of IOTA. If most of the pledged 'Big deal' proceeds go to the foundation I'll set the new limit on the Foundation to 30 million IOTA, instead of 50 million.

hi community IOTA
I have add new column % of the deal given to the Foundation    
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17d2k_0Xgy2SSFx6NWx2xyrgF9pFcs_Mr-GgVg5Uvzjw/edit?ts=56eac2b7#gid=0
if you can help me and posted how much % here
Thanks!!
and Thanks for Seccour for help me!!  

Hi, yassin! I want to change my donation. All iotas (50k+150k) comes to big deal. And 100% of the deal given to the Foundation. Thanks!

Done!!