2024 NBA Season

[FanEagle]

I think it is the difference of teams success as well. Last season Harden won the MVP and his team was around the same places as this season, so when you look at it harden and rockets didn't do anything out of ordinary for them, it was expected of harden to lead rockets to top of the west conference.

On the other hand, Giannis made bucks a lot better this season (of course coach bud had a lot to do with it) and then bucks became the first seed in the east. Which means giannis both improved himself but also improved his team as well. That is why Giannis got the MVP, not because he was better than Harden but because he was the most "valuable" player, if we gave the award to the best player ever then KD or Lebron would have got all mvp's in the past decade every single year.

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[mich]

Having some major nba withdraws right now anyone else missing the 'kiss cam'?
https://twitter.com/betmybookie/status/1144057590344749056
Hoping to make some nba future bets soon when they are available:
 https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/2019-20-nba-championship-odds-warriors-bucks-celtics-rockets

[Indamuck]

I think it is the difference of teams success as well. Last season Harden won the MVP and his team was around the same places as this season, so when you look at it harden and rockets didn't do anything out of ordinary for them, it was expected of harden to lead rockets to top of the west conference.

On the other hand, Giannis made bucks a lot better this season (of course coach bud had a lot to do with it) and then bucks became the first seed in the east. Which means giannis both improved himself but also improved his team as well. That is why Giannis got the MVP, not because he was better than Harden but because he was the most "valuable" player, if we gave the award to the best player ever then KD or Lebron would have got all mvp's in the past decade every single year.

I don't think team record should matter at all, I would just give the mvp to the best player in the league.

For example in MLB: Alex Rodriguez won the AL MVP in 2003 and the Texas Rangers had a  Season Record of 71-91,  The NBA should take notes from the MLB.

[Reid]

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If CP3 gets out then there will be a lot of changes.
Got to stay healthy if he wants that crown again.
But why not aim better. Get the Finals Championship trophy and a ring. That will be better than just aiming for a season MVP.
It is like Steve Nash once again. Same coach different team but with same gameplay. Steve Nash ball hog but with lots of assist. This time Harden ball hog but with lots of dribbles.
He should really change that to save some stamina.

It is still Gianis who deserves it for me. He is an all around guy. Hell! He should have also that Most Defensive Player crown.

That is what I'm trying to say, he had a good season, but they always fell short during crunch time. I don't want to used the word "choke", but since @harizen said it, then Harden should not be just a statistics player but rather go for all the marbles of it, winning a NBA ring.  . Speaking of CP3, he said he wanted to stay with Houston so let's see.

It is just the same as the story of Russell Westbrook.
He can pull some good games and break records if he want to but yet he could not get to win a ring.
He is also an MVP and almost a triple double every game and yet still fell short. He had different players who sided with him who are now champions but why the hell when it is with him they could not get it?

At the end of the day, if it is really for you then it will be done.
Just need to make the efforts higher and also the will to win the game and not just for statistics.

I can see a lot of fire in Giannis, I bet in 2 to 3 years he will be more than just a monster in the basketball court and then win that NBA championship.

[rosezionjohn]

I've been scanning some basketball rumors and read some interesting moves. As we await the situation on Durant and Klay, how about the latest on the Rockets - Rockets Working On Clint Capela, Eric Gordon, PJ Tucker Trades As Part Of Jimmy Butler Pursuit

Can you imagine a harden, CP3, and Butler big 3? Their locker room would be interesting 

[Theb]

I think it is the difference of teams success as well. Last season Harden won the MVP and his team was around the same places as this season, so when you look at it harden and rockets didn't do anything out of ordinary for them, it was expected of harden to lead rockets to top of the west conference.

On the other hand, Giannis made bucks a lot better this season (of course coach bud had a lot to do with it) and then bucks became the first seed in the east. Which means giannis both improved himself but also improved his team as well. That is why Giannis got the MVP, not because he was better than Harden but because he was the most "valuable" player, if we gave the award to the best player ever then KD or Lebron would have got all mvp's in the past decade every single year.

I have to disagree with you winning NBA awards is more of politics and personal biases nowadays that is why there are a lot of questionable players winning an award like Rudy Gobert taking away the DPOY from a lot of worthy players not even mentioned in the top 3. Other awars such first, second, and third team all-nba all have very questionable inclusions but we cannot really do anything since unlike the All-star games fans aren't the ones who are voting its all up to the media on who they want and who they think who will win.

[peter0425]

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It is just the same as the story of Russell Westbrook.
He can pull some good games and break records if he want to but yet he could not get to win a ring.
He is also an MVP and almost a triple double every game and yet still fell short. He had different players who sided with him who are now champions but why the hell when it is with him they could not get it?

At the end of the day, if it is really for you then it will be done.
Just need to make the efforts higher and also the will to win the game and not just for statistics.

I can see a lot of fire in Giannis, I bet in 2 to 3 years he will be more than just a monster in the basketball court and then win that NBA championship.

Yep, he is still young and just entering his prime and if Bucks will upgrade some players then an eventual ring is on the horizon for him in the next 2-3 years. Russ and Hardens are all statistical players,  . Setting records after records and as a result they falter when they are needed to bring their team to the next level.

[Lan75]

I've been scanning some basketball rumors and read some interesting moves. As we await the situation on Durant and Klay, how about the latest on the Rockets - Rockets Working On Clint Capela, Eric Gordon, PJ Tucker Trades As Part Of Jimmy Butler Pursuit

Can you imagine a harden, CP3, and Butler big 3? Their locker room would be interesting 

CP3 is done at the Rockets i think. The Rockets is willing to trade their point guard as stated after the playoffs that they are rebuilding around Harden and they are willing to trade anybody. They are interested on getting Butler which for me interesting move since Butler is a ball hugger and might not work for Harden.

[harizen]

I've been scanning some basketball rumors and read some interesting moves. As we await the situation on Durant and Klay, how about the latest on the Rockets - Rockets Working On Clint Capela, Eric Gordon, PJ Tucker Trades As Part Of Jimmy Butler Pursuit

Can you imagine a harden, CP3, and Butler big 3? Their locker room would be interesting  

That's quite a long time rumor and NBA enthusiast are waiting for the update. Surely, Harden will stay or should I say, Rockets will make him stay.

Just feel like a bad move here if they will market Capela, Tucker, and Gordon too but they have no choice if they are targeting big fish. They need to destroy their current core lineup.

CP3 + HARDEN + BUTLER?
= ROCKETS 30W -52L - First time not to make a Playoffs appearance since 2011-2012 Season.

[Japinat]

CP3 + HARDEN + BUTLER?
= ROCKETS 30W -52L - First time not to make a Playoffs appearance since 2011-2012 Season.

Actually I think this would work if Harden will become a willing passer and Chris Paul will play on a consistent PG position.
If Harden would still be Harden, I don't think we will see some improvement here.

[jakelyson]

CP3 + HARDEN + BUTLER?
= ROCKETS 30W -52L - First time not to make a Playoffs appearance since 2011-2012 Season.

Actually I think this would work if Harden will become a willing passer and Chris Paul will play on a consistent PG position.
If Harden would still be Harden, I don't think we will see some improvement here.

I do not see that happening. We already know that that was the cause of the friction between CP3 and Harden. Harden refuses to be couched or play off the ball. And if you add Butler, it would be just what he said ...

Their locker room would be interesting 

How about KD? He declined player option with GSW. Do you think it is a good decision, Achilles injury, and everything?

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/kevin-durant-declines-player-option-will-become-free-agent/

[Japinat]

CP3 + HARDEN + BUTLER?
= ROCKETS 30W -52L - First time not to make a Playoffs appearance since 2011-2012 Season.

Actually I think this would work if Harden will become a willing passer and Chris Paul will play on a consistent PG position.
If Harden would still be Harden, I don't think we will see some improvement here.

I do not see that happening. We already know that that was the cause of the friction between CP3 and Harden. Harden refuses to be couched or play off the ball. And if you add Butler, it would be just what he said ...

BUTLER will be more valuable in other team but not in Rockets, not with Harden particularly.
I would rather see him teaming Lebron James if possible than with Harden honestly, he actually deserve a better team as we know what he can do in big games like in the playoffs, if we followed him in the last playoffs against the Raptors, we saw how valuable he is.

[bbc.reporter]

@jakelyson. It is a risk, however, maybe the extent of Kevin Durant's injury might not be that bad. His handler and his doctors know more than us.

[Sanitough]

@jakelyson. It is a risk, however, maybe the extent of Kevin Durant's injury might not be that bad. His handler and his doctors know more than us.

I agree, he would not make his own decision without consulting the experts and professionals since it's his future is at stake here.
Also remember that Durant is a star which most teams are rooting for him to play with them, so I think that decision was the right thing to bring more entertainment int he other team, not only for the warriors since he have proven enough.

[batang_bitcoin]

CP3 + HARDEN + BUTLER?
= ROCKETS 30W -52L - First time not to make a Playoffs appearance since 2011-2012 Season.

Actually I think this would work if Harden will become a willing passer and Chris Paul will play on a consistent PG position.
If Harden would still be Harden, I don't think we will see some improvement here.

As far as I remember, there's an ego issue within these players. They are strong in terms of invidual and past performances but as a team I don't think that they have blended well for the past season. Is there a roster change for Houston Rockets and any of them will be eliminated from the team? if not I think they will try to blend well for the upcoming season and honestly this team is really strong as I've said for individual players but well it's a team game so I hope they'll do well soon.

[peter0425]

CP3 + HARDEN + BUTLER?
= ROCKETS 30W -52L - First time not to make a Playoffs appearance since 2011-2012 Season.

You gave me a good laugh @harizen. But I agree, adding Butler will be a disaster for Houston. They already had 2 high profile players who had a a lot of drama, so I don't think that Butler will be a fit to them. It could make the team worst, in my opinion and probably not make the play-offs.

[FlightyPouch]

Congratulations to Giannis Antetekoumpo for taking the MVP. There are some people that disagree with this decision but I don't think this is a mistake right? Here is an article saying that Houston Rockets disagree with this decision.

https://sports.inquirer.net/354598/rockets-respectfully-disagrees-with-nba-mvp-outcome

And whose crying there? The voice of those many people who voted for Giannis is bigger than those who questioned this decision, being all around player deserved the award, better luck next time for Harden's fans, as there's no chance anymore to change that as Giannis already won the MVP.

Yeah, I am a fan of Giannis and I really thought they could make it to the Finals but I guess it is still not their time. Giannis deserves this, I don't know why would Houston Rockets still chase this decision since the vote was cast off and I don't think the fans will cheat here. They saw how Giannis plays, they knew him as the MVP.

[rosezionjohn]

CP3 + HARDEN + BUTLER?
= ROCKETS 30W -52L - First time not to make a Playoffs appearance since 2011-2012 Season.

haha! I think they'll still make it with that line up but they'll lose in the first or second round. Same thing that happened to Oklahoma with Carmelo, PG, and Westbrook.

How about KD? He declined player option with GSW. Do you think it is a good decision, Achilles injury, and everything?
https://www.slamonline.com/nba/kevin-durant-declines-player-option-will-become-free-agent/

KD is still fine, his market value has not decline that much yet despite the injury. I read that the Warriors will try hard to sign him then trade rather than lose him for free.


It looks like the Clippers are also interested in pairing up Leonard and Butler.
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/2019-nba-free-agency-rumors-kawhi-leonard-jimmy-butler-clippers-increasingly-possible

[Caladonian]

CP3 + HARDEN + BUTLER?
= ROCKETS 30W -52L - First time not to make a Playoffs appearance since 2011-2012 Season.

You gave me a good laugh @harizen. But I agree, adding Butler will be a disaster for Houston. They already had 2 high profile players who had a a lot of drama, so I don't think that Butler will be a fit to them. It could make the team worst, in my opinion and probably not make the play-offs.

If only they will play for talents and no personal agenda maybe it can work but adding Butler as we know the attitude it's not going to work, two superstars which having some personal issues right now then adding another player who have the reputation wanting to have a star treated too, that's quite a ramble for this team.

[Reid]

CP3 + HARDEN + BUTLER?
= ROCKETS 30W -52L - First time not to make a Playoffs appearance since 2011-2012 Season.

You gave me a good laugh @harizen. But I agree, adding Butler will be a disaster for Houston. They already had 2 high profile players who had a a lot of drama, so I don't think that Butler will be a fit to them. It could make the team worst, in my opinion and probably not make the play-offs.

If only they will play for talents and no personal agenda maybe it can work but adding Butler as we know the attitude it's not going to work, two superstars which having some personal issues right now then adding another player who have the reputation wanting to have a star treated too, that's quite a ramble for this team.

You hit it.

Butler is the type also who wants to be a star in a team. He just cant do it.

I am not a Butler fan. It is like he is lacking something. Maybe some confidence or he is over confident that what he says have never been fruitful.

If I am Houston I will go with a better PF. Something like Tobias Harris with a shooting ability and also inside penetration who can also rebound.
Problem is Mike D'Antoni wants to much speed in offense. That is his weakness since the Phoenix Suns. (Steve Nash)