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August 24, 2019, 05:16:29 AM
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Underrated or it might also be unproven. This season with the Clippers will show what kind of an effect Kahwi has on which team he plays.

We should not be influenced by the media hype. They are similar to bitcoin news media that hype ICOs hehehe.

Winning 2 championship is enough to prove that Kawhi is star caliber type of player, actually he can retire now and he will be remembered as one of the best players in the NBA. There are a lot of good players in the NBA, but most of them did not win a championship, this guy won 2 championship and was a Finals MVP on that win.

Agreed. Kawhi is an NBA all star, however, I was asking whether he is on of the greatest of all time list with Michael Jordan, Kobe and Lebron. I do not think he is yet.

How do we know if a player a greatest of all time? Do we have a criteria for that? I think being great is now only based on the number of fans of a player and I believe Leonard does not have a lot of fans since he is kind of quite guy, other NBA star players like to tour around the world after the NBA season, that makes them gain more fan based in different countries.

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August 24, 2019, 05:18:22 AM
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For the second time around, Dwight Howard has officially signed with the Lakers.

I don't think they'll be looking for anyone else this pre-season. That also means Melo's chances of getting signed is getting lower and lower.
Good for Dwight to play back with the Lakers and show how can he deal and help them inside though same with what others opinions he's not that much addition since AD and McGee is there to fill the position, he can  give some minutes for the rotations and make some good rest for their big man.

In the other side, Melo's chances is really slimming to be signed and play for this season, how there's still team who's considering his service.
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August 24, 2019, 05:21:56 AM
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What a turn of events, this will be his second stint with the Lakers. First time went horribly bad for him, but the circumstances that time was very different (Kobe's being the alpha). And also, he won't be the main center here, it could either be AD or Javale as the first option and I do hope that he is ok with that role in LA.
He'll have to deal being a second or third option if he wants to have some minutes on the floor. He will be a bench warmer then gets kicked out if he becomes a diva again just like when he was with Kobe.
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What a turn of events, this will be his second stint with the Lakers. First time went horribly bad for him, but the circumstances that time was very different (Kobe's being the alpha). And also, he won't be the main center here, it could either be AD or Javale as the first option and I do hope that he is ok with that role in LA.
He'll have to deal being a second or third option if he wants to have some minutes on the floor. He will be a bench warmer then gets kicked out if he becomes a diva again just like when he was with Kobe.

Howard was good with the Lakers, just based on his stats.


With the total 76 games, he averaged a double double, 17.1 pts and 12.4 rebounds, if he can contribute with that stats again, Lakers will be a tough team to beat.

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August 24, 2019, 08:23:17 AM
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Howard was good with the Lakers, just based on his stats.


With the total 76 games, he averaged a double double, 17.1 pts and 12.4 rebounds, if he can contribute with that stats again, Lakers will be a tough team to beat.
He was still putting up double-double figures prior to his back surgery. Now that he is officially a Laker again, his play time may be decreased. I would like to see him emulate Mark Gasol (Toronto).
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August 24, 2019, 08:30:02 AM
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Howard was good with the Lakers, just based on his stats.


With the total 76 games, he averaged a double double, 17.1 pts and 12.4 rebounds, if he can contribute with that stats again, Lakers will be a tough team to beat.
He was still putting up double-double figures prior to his back surgery. Now that he is officially a Laker again, his play time may be decreased. I would like to see him emulate Mark Gasol (Toronto).


For him to regain his confident, he needs to be given good minutes, that guy provided a double double in the past, I'm sure that talent is still in him but the confident level may reduce. But I like to believe that the present team that he will play will help him to be aggressive again, he needs to tally that good stats again so he can secure his good future, this is his best chance especially if Lakers will win the Championship.

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August 24, 2019, 08:30:06 AM
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Howard was good with the Lakers, just based on his stats.


With the total 76 games, he averaged a double double, 17.1 pts and 12.4 rebounds, if he can contribute with that stats again, Lakers will be a tough team to beat.
Are these stats still significant? Nah sorry mate but I don't think so because. Why? He did such performance very long time ago where he is in his prime days, but remember, we are now living on 2019 — an era where skills are given and special talents are rare. Oops! By the way you forgot to put into consideration his stats on the remaining seasons up to now, here. And as you can see, his point average, assists and especially rebound (where he supposed to bw outstanding for having a tall height) diminished after years passed. Anyway, let's just hope that your "if" will become a reality despite the odds is not on his favor. I don't want to become pessimistic here but for me, we can't assure that he still play the same as before.
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August 24, 2019, 11:23:15 AM
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Howard was good with the Lakers, just based on his stats.


With the total 76 games, he averaged a double double, 17.1 pts and 12.4 rebounds, if he can contribute with that stats again, Lakers will be a tough team to beat.
Are these stats still significant? Nah sorry mate but I don't think so because. Why? He did such performance very long time ago where he is in his prime days, but remember, we are now living on 2019 — an era where skills are given and special talents are rare. Oops! By the way you forgot to put into consideration his stats on the remaining seasons up to now, here. And as you can see, his point average, assists and especially rebound (where he supposed to bw outstanding for having a tall height) diminished after years passed. Anyway, let's just hope that your "if" will become a reality despite the odds is not on his favor. I don't want to become pessimistic here but for me, we can't assure that he still play the same as before.
I don't think that is it also significant. He is still close to his prime, pre-injury Dwight Howard. And during that time, the game is still dominated around NBA centers that's why there was a lot of expectations from him and Kobe and Nash to deliver another ring for the Lakers.

However, we all know what happen to that team as they lost in the playoffs, 0-4 against San Antonio and that big 3 was disbanded after just a season, could be one of the worst big 3 we have seen.
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August 24, 2019, 11:41:27 AM
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For him to regain his confident, he needs to be given good minutes, that guy provided a double double in the past, I'm sure that talent is still in him but the confident level may reduce. But I like to believe that the present team that he will play will help him to be aggressive again, he needs to tally that good stats again so he can secure his good future, this is his best chance especially if Lakers will win the Championship.
He'll definitely get his rhythm much faster if he gets more minutes but I'm not sure if he'll get that confidence back, they will have to keep on winning. I also don't know about his talent, I mean he got some decent post moves but he has not really develop even a mid-range J which I think is very important for centers now. It was mainly his size and athleticism that made him dominant before and he may have lost them after the injury.
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August 24, 2019, 11:53:41 AM
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For the second time around, Dwight Howard has officially signed with the Lakers.

I don't think they'll be looking for anyone else this pre-season. That also means Melo's chances of getting signed is getting lower and lower.
Still not losing hope for Melo, hoping that someone will take him to their boat.

Any idea or insiders if there's a chance to other teams?



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For him to regain his confident, he needs to be given good minutes, that guy provided a double double in the past, I'm sure that talent is still in him but the confident level may reduce. But I like to believe that the present team that he will play will help him to be aggressive again, he needs to tally that good stats again so he can secure his good future, this is his best chance especially if Lakers will win the Championship.
He'll definitely get his rhythm much faster if he gets more minutes but I'm not sure if he'll get that confidence back, they will have to keep on winning. I also don't know about his talent, I mean he got some decent post moves but he has not really develop even a mid-range J which I think is very important for centers now. It was mainly his size and athleticism that made him dominant before and he may have lost them after the injury.

I dont think so. He is focused only with those skills. If he aint giving any chance for himself to shoot mid range shots then he still good under the rim.
With those only in his focus then I bet it wont be that difficult to do so.

I have been looking at Celtics and it looks like they are going small this season. More like the Houston Rockets.
With Al Horford not around anymore, they will be relying on Smart for defense.
Well, the guy is good at it, he defends players 1-5.
Gordon Hayward needs to go back to his old self though.
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For him to regain his confident, he needs to be given good minutes, that guy provided a double double in the past, I'm sure that talent is still in him but the confident level may reduce. But I like to believe that the present team that he will play will help him to be aggressive again, he needs to tally that good stats again so he can secure his good future, this is his best chance especially if Lakers will win the Championship.
He'll definitely get his rhythm much faster if he gets more minutes but I'm not sure if he'll get that confidence back, they will have to keep on winning. I also don't know about his talent, I mean he got some decent post moves but he has not really develop even a mid-range J which I think is very important for centers now. It was mainly his size and athleticism that made him dominant before and he may have lost them after the injury.

That's one on his drawback, specially today that big guys are shooting long range. But I think Lakers didn't get him to shoot outside, but more of a defensive presence in the middle and probably some inside pass coming from Lebron. He will score definitely, but under the rim specially if he still have the ability to get those offensive rebounds like he used to.

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I dont think so. He is focused only with those skills. If he aint giving any chance for himself to shoot mid range shots then he still good under the rim.
With those only in his focus then I bet it wont be that difficult to do so.
We'll see how he performs. As I said, the injury may have taken away some of the athleticism and that's an important factor if he's going to compete against younger, more agile and more athletic centers now. Being predictable at this point of his career is also not something Dwight would benefit from.


I have been looking at Celtics and it looks like they are going small this season. More like the Houston Rockets.
With Al Horford not around anymore, they will be relying on Smart for defense.
Well, the guy is good at it, he defends players 1-5.
Gordon Hayward needs to go back to his old self though.
How about Tacko Fall and Enes Kanter?
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August 24, 2019, 05:21:32 PM
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It is such a bad deal for Dwight that he has to really play well and work hard and listen to whatever he is told, right now he is getting the "Melo-rockets" deal with this, he can be sent in 10 games and never be picked up by any team ever, or he could play here and actually prove that he is still playing decently as a role player. If he goes Melo route and think he worth anything than he will be cut from the team.

Contract is non-guaranteed so if he is cut from the team he will not be getting paid afterwards only until the time he played, normally teams sign guaranteed contracts where player gets money no matter what happens, you can't cut a player or even if you do you still have to pay them, this contract is not like that so Lakers could cut Dwight whenever they want and never have to pay.

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I dont think so. He is focused only with those skills. If he aint giving any chance for himself to shoot mid range shots then he still good under the rim.
With those only in his focus then I bet it wont be that difficult to do so.
We'll see how he performs. As I said, the injury may have taken away some of the athleticism and that's an important factor if he's going to compete against younger, more agile and more athletic centers now. Being predictable at this point of his career is also not something Dwight would benefit from.


I have been looking at Celtics and it looks like they are going small this season. More like the Houston Rockets.
With Al Horford not around anymore, they will be relying on Smart for defense.
Well, the guy is good at it, he defends players 1-5.
Gordon Hayward needs to go back to his old self though.
How about Tacko Fall and Enes Kanter?

Enas kanter is a terrible defender.  Great on the offensive boards but cant be counted on defensively.  He is too loose of a defender to be on a contending team.  Cant give him minutes in crunch time

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August 24, 2019, 10:27:42 PM
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I have been looking at Celtics and it looks like they are going small this season. More like the Houston Rockets.
With Al Horford not around anymore, they will be relying on Smart for defense.
Well, the guy is good at it, he defends players 1-5.
Gordon Hayward needs to go back to his old self though.
How about Tacko Fall and Enes Kanter?

They are hyping Tacko Fall but not yet. He is still a rookie so they will not give him that much minutes.
Also, this big men will be used depending who they are against with. They need more speed to shine the greatness of Kemba.

I hate to say it but I have been looking for any good news out there about NBA and there is not much. Still all about Dwight up until now.
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August 24, 2019, 10:59:00 PM
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I hate to say it but I have been looking for any good news out there about NBA and there is not much. Still all about Dwight up until now.
Nevertheless it is still good news for Lakers Fans out there  Smiley. Lakers is one of the favorites to win next season's championship and any news/changes on their roster is a news around the association for now.

@Reid, I have heard/read articles about Dwight's attitude problem or this so called locker room issues, do you think that Lebron could tame this beast? I just remember the time Dennis Rodman comes to Chicago and people question whether he could blend well with Scottie and MJ and it turns out to be positive.
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August 25, 2019, 03:30:32 AM
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Underrated or it might also be unproven. This season with the Clippers will show what kind of an effect Kahwi has on which team he plays.

We should not be influenced by the media hype. They are similar to bitcoin news media that hype ICOs hehehe.

Winning 2 championship is enough to prove that Kawhi is star caliber type of player, actually he can retire now and he will be remembered as one of the best players in the NBA. There are a lot of good players in the NBA, but most of them did not win a championship, this guy won 2 championship and was a Finals MVP on that win.

Agreed. Kawhi is an NBA all star, however, I was asking whether he is on of the greatest of all time list with Michael Jordan, Kobe and Lebron. I do not think he is yet.

How do we know if a player a greatest of all time? Do we have a criteria for that? I think being great is now only based on the number of fans of a player and I believe Leonard does not have a lot of fans since he is kind of quite guy, other NBA star players like to tour around the world after the NBA season, that makes them gain more fan based in different countries.

Ask the experts in the thread. However, I reckon there should be a criteria for that. Why are Michael Jordan, Kobe and Lebron considered the greatest of all time? Not because they have the most no. of fans, I hope.

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August 25, 2019, 04:47:16 AM
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I have been looking at Celtics and it looks like they are going small this season. More like the Houston Rockets.
With Al Horford not around anymore, they will be relying on Smart for defense.
Well, the guy is good at it, he defends players 1-5.
Gordon Hayward needs to go back to his old self though.
How about Tacko Fall and Enes Kanter?

They are hyping Tacko Fall but not yet. He is still a rookie so they will not give him that much minutes.
Also, this big men will be used depending who they are against with. They need more speed to shine the greatness of Kemba.

I hate to say it but I have been looking for any good news out there about NBA and there is not much. Still all about Dwight up until now.

Yea, NBA news is silent maybe just because the team are now settled and players who find a team this season is taking it easy because it's just about two months before the new season begins. I would say that the Dwight Howard news is big, although we all know that he is already past his prime but him coming back into Lakers uniform is consider big news specially for Howard's fans.

Or probably you can check out Team USA lost its first game against Australia in exhibition match.  Grin

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/fiba-world-cup-2019-australia-tops-team-usa-in-exhibition-to-give-us-first-loss-in-13-years/qqw15c7mr9lw18oi2i11q4j3t
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August 25, 2019, 08:49:57 AM
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I have been looking at Celtics and it looks like they are going small this season. More like the Houston Rockets.
With Al Horford not around anymore, they will be relying on Smart for defense.
Well, the guy is good at it, he defends players 1-5.
Gordon Hayward needs to go back to his old self though.
How about Tacko Fall and Enes Kanter?

They are hyping Tacko Fall but not yet. He is still a rookie so they will not give him that much minutes.
Also, this big men will be used depending who they are against with. They need more speed to shine the greatness of Kemba.

I hate to say it but I have been looking for any good news out there about NBA and there is not much. Still all about Dwight up until now.

Yea, NBA news is silent maybe just because the team are now settled and players who find a team this season is taking it easy because it's just about two months before the new season begins. I would say that the Dwight Howard news is big, although we all know that he is already past his prime but him coming back into Lakers uniform is consider big news specially for Howard's fans.

Or probably you can check out Team USA lost its first game against Australia in exhibition match.  Grin

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/fiba-world-cup-2019-australia-tops-team-usa-in-exhibition-to-give-us-first-loss-in-13-years/qqw15c7mr9lw18oi2i11q4j3t

Nah, thank you though. Dont like watching unfair games. They must really change the way rosters are being made with FIBA.
Last it was fun was with Spain only. But look at it now, just watch them recently and it fun too. Veterans from NBA are playing the Spain team while on the USA side they are using the young guns.

Looks like they know it will be those veterans which will play.
Training in different countries should also be hauled over. Grin
Sad thing is there is no budget for it and the government aint focused with sports but rather corruption. Grin
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