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May 23, 2023, 05:29:57 PM
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The Nuggets are the better team, I think it just shows how they really are the number 1 team in the West as they finished the job here, sweeping the Lakers. And even if they are down like 15 points at the end of the first half, they didn't panic or what, because they know the caliber of the team.
We witnessed how they made a comeback in just one quarter, and they even took the lead in the third quarter. The Lakers, on the other hand, were able to mount their own run and come back in the fourth, but in the end, the Nuggets still won the game. Well, at least the Lakers reached this level despite their struggles in the regular season. I'm sure they'll be even better next season.


The best the Lakers can do in the 4th quarter was to tie the score. And then Jokic and Murray again pushed the lead to 5 with 4 minutes to go and that's it. The comeback was not enough or it's that the Denver  team are really prepared in this kind of game.

We might as well give coach Malone his due, at the start of the series he was saying that the narrative was on the Lakers. On the other hand the media is not taking Jokic accomplishments and at the end of the series on on the playoff itself, Jokic was on a mission and had one of the best statistical numbers for a big man.


Yup, Nothing else Lakers can do even they've tried everything to win the game and push this series to another day,

But Jokic and Murray are not willing to give that chance as we witness how they react and make
sure that the gap will be enough in winning the game, not a great player but my take with that
last play, Lakers should gamble taking 3's inside attacking the basket, they are having difficulty
with the Nuggets so pushing the game into OT might not be a good idea, just my cent!
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May 23, 2023, 06:48:38 PM
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Those 3 undrafted players of the Heat are leading the way for them to get Game 3, and remain undefeated on their home this playoffs. Vincent, Strus, and Martin are combined for 57 points while Vincent got a career-high 29 points.
This is a slap against Celtics and we're now having that 99.9% of probability that it's going to be the Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat that will face each other in the NBA finals. The problem with Celtics is that they're not rotating a lot unlike what Heat is doing. It's like that there's this superstar and minimum player on the Celtic's side. But look at the ball rotation of what Heat does, anyone who's open from the outside, just shoot it and we trust you. That's what they're trying to say.


They are trying to go one-on-one; there's no great team chemistry on the team as they do not trust each other so much. They had a plan to double Butler, but Butler is a good passer and can easily spot an outside shooter. This is embarrassing as it's a blowout loss for the Celtics. In my opinion, they are already out as no team has come back from a 0-3 deficit in the history of the NBA.

The three-point shooting is the biggest factor in this loss by the Celtics. They shot 26%, while the Heat shot 54%.
They'll surely have no comeback as the other team which is Lakers have already been eliminated. I don't think that they still have the nerve to move it along and beat the Heat tomorrow. Well, they might beat with a 1 game but as you've said, many of us think that it won't happen that they'll have a sweep and reverse wins against them. They should just let it go and let Heat and Nuggets have their own moments at the finals.

It's useless for them to fight anymore especially after what happened to the Lakers who just got defeated and was eliminated by a sweep 0-4 deficit. They might win at least one game if the Heat will give them some space this time but at what cost? Just for the Heat to travel back at Boston again, where they will waste some time again instead of resting. I know that the franchise are still rooting for their own team that they can still find a way but their players mainly their coach already know what's coming next and unfortunately, after having a good run during the regular season, this is their end and they have just defeated by a team that just barely clinched a spot in the Play-in.

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May 23, 2023, 07:13:43 PM
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Those 3 undrafted players of the Heat are leading the way for them to get Game 3, and remain undefeated on their home this playoffs. Vincent, Strus, and Martin are combined for 57 points while Vincent got a career-high 29 points.
This is a slap against Celtics and we're now having that 99.9% of probability that it's going to be the Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat that will face each other in the NBA finals. The problem with Celtics is that they're not rotating a lot unlike what Heat is doing. It's like that there's this superstar and minimum player on the Celtic's side. But look at the ball rotation of what Heat does, anyone who's open from the outside, just shoot it and we trust you. That's what they're trying to say.


They are trying to go one-on-one; there's no great team chemistry on the team as they do not trust each other so much. They had a plan to double Butler, but Butler is a good passer and can easily spot an outside shooter. This is embarrassing as it's a blowout loss for the Celtics. In my opinion, they are already out as no team has come back from a 0-3 deficit in the history of the NBA.

The three-point shooting is the biggest factor in this loss by the Celtics. They shot 26%, while the Heat shot 54%.
They'll surely have no comeback as the other team which is Lakers have already been eliminated. I don't think that they still have the nerve to move it along and beat the Heat tomorrow. Well, they might beat with a 1 game but as you've said, many of us think that it won't happen that they'll have a sweep and reverse wins against them. They should just let it go and let Heat and Nuggets have their own moments at the finals.

It's useless for them to fight anymore especially after what happened to the Lakers who just got defeated and was eliminated by a sweep 0-4 deficit. They might win at least one game if the Heat will give them some space this time but at what cost? Just for the Heat to travel back at Boston again, where they will waste some time again instead of resting. I know that the franchise are still rooting for their own team that they can still find a way but their players mainly their coach already know what's coming next and unfortunately, after having a good run during the regular season, this is their end and they have just defeated by a team that just barely clinched a spot in the Play-in.

I guess we all think now that the Lakers shouldn't be fighting. They didn't play well throughout the series and it's normal to think so. What will happen if they win 1 game? No team has managed to bounce back from these results in the past. I want to watch Heat and Nuggets in the final as soon as possible.
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May 23, 2023, 07:36:39 PM
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When they're down by two, everyone expected by third game it will be theirs but we're all wrong with that expectation and that goes to show that we have the idea where this is going.

Because they are playing on their home court, it's expected that they will win. However, we are now in Game 4 where the Lakers are 0-3. Even if the Lakers win, it's challenging to defy history as no team has ever come back from a 0-3 deficit. Currently, they are leading and having a great start, but the question remains: Can it last?
Not just that and it was thought that they'll be able to recover but then their match has to end over against Nuggets and it's on them.

They didn't last, I thought that they'll win that game but then Nuggets has managed to recover from the lead that the Lakers has made. I really thought we'll see a game 5 but not anymore.

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May 23, 2023, 08:16:39 PM
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I am not going to like, I have to say that I did not expected Lakers to get swept at all, that was an unexpected situation for me as well and Nuggets really did something wonderful there. I understand that it wasn't really that better for Lakers to hang on, because after 3-0 it was obvious that they would lose and go away and that is why we are talking about a situation where it would be Nuggets winning so why try to take that extra game, just lose and go to vacation already and start your offseason.

However, I did not see this coming before the series started, it looks like something that would have beaten a lot of people as well and bets must have been something that made the sportsbooks a lot of money as well, definitely unexpected result in the end.

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May 23, 2023, 08:30:30 PM
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I am not going to like, I have to say that I did not expected Lakers to get swept at all, that was an unexpected situation for me as well and Nuggets really did something wonderful there. I understand that it wasn't really that better for Lakers to hang on, because after 3-0 it was obvious that they would lose and go away and that is why we are talking about a situation where it would be Nuggets winning so why try to take that extra game, just lose and go to vacation already and start your offseason.

However, I did not see this coming before the series started, it looks like something that would have beaten a lot of people as well and bets must have been something that made the sportsbooks a lot of money as well, definitely unexpected result in the end.

The Denver Nuggets just had the better team.  The Lakers had no answer for Jamal Murray or MPJ.  Not to mention the Lakers were a team thrown together at the last minute who barely played together while the Nuggets have been building their team for years.  I think if the Lakers had a healthy LeBron for an entire year and were able to address some of their weaknesses in the offseason, they could have a shot.  It'll be tough though with teams like Denver existing, who are still very young and could be a new dynasty.

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May 23, 2023, 08:32:34 PM
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I am not going to like, I have to say that I did not expected Lakers to get swept at all, that was an unexpected situation for me as well and Nuggets really did something wonderful there. I understand that it wasn't really that better for Lakers to hang on, because after 3-0 it was obvious that they would lose and go away and that is why we are talking about a situation where it would be Nuggets winning so why try to take that extra game, just lose and go to vacation already and start your offseason.

However, I did not see this coming before the series started, it looks like something that would have beaten a lot of people as well and bets must have been something that made the sportsbooks a lot of money as well, definitely unexpected result in the end.

Man, I myself did not expect this kind of outcome, but at the same time I know the Nuggets would have a better chances to win this series, but then again we are all surprised how easy this one for the Nuggets LOL. Malone was never wrong when he said they look pretty fine because they just scored 132 against the number 1 defensive team even with that late adjustments the Lakers made in game 1.
I noticed the Lakers just gave up in the final quarter of game 4. They're not moving without the ball, it seems like they don't have an actual play at all.

The bookies surely did make a lot of money, because people were expecting the Lakers to have at least 1 win back at home, but definitely didn't happen lol.

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May 23, 2023, 08:40:53 PM
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They'll surely have no comeback as the other team which is Lakers have already been eliminated. I don't think that they still have the nerve to move it along and beat the Heat tomorrow. Well, they might beat with a 1 game but as you've said, many of us think that it won't happen that they'll have a sweep and reverse wins against them. They should just let it go and let Heat and Nuggets have their own moments at the finals.

They are out of confidence now as the Heat is continuously bullying them inside the court and they show no mercy to celtics especially that Butler is so hot in the floor right now. Maybe tomorrow will be the final series as the heat will advance to finals and face off Nuggets on finals.

But if Celtics can show some miracle and get courage maybe the story will became different and they can continue to compete and extend this series.
The Heat is just doing the capacity that they can. All of those wrong predictions have got them and they are there to prove that no prediction will be right if we're in the finals. Boston can win 1 game but what's next? They're just going to prolong the series but still will end up being beaten by the Heat. That is the sad reality for the Celtics and their fate has already been judged and it is going to be Miami Heat and the Denver Nuggets are going to face each other in the end.

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We will see once both of them is already there. Right now, we just have to wait for the other team to qualify and that's the Heat which has a high chance that they'll end their series against Celtics by tomorrow. Both teams didn't get any lose from the semis(conference finals) and have performed very well. While Heat has the history of getting in and out in the finals, the Denver Nuggets is gonna get in for the first time in history. They may be lack of experience on that bracket but sure they like challenges. If ever the Heat finishes the game by tomorrow and we're already in the finals, I'm more optimistic with Heat's roster because of these undrafted boys.

This season's playoffs have made a lot of unexpected results in NBA history. I guess this would be the first time that the 7th and 8th seeds are able to reach each other conference's finals. And probably the first time that a team with the most undrafted players reached the finals.

I would love Miami to close their series with Boston tomorrow while at home. Miami Heat has the most difficult matches en route to the finals compared to the Nuggets. Props to coach Spoelstra for utilizing and developing well what the management can only provide to the team which has a lot of undrafted players. And to Butler's tough mentality and leadership. Miami is once again overachieving IMO.

I am a fan of both Denver and Miami and I am happy that they are now in the finals. Technically, I am favoring the Nuggets to win the series as they are the more well-rounded team and are complete. It is really worth it that Denver's management decided to send reinforcements to Jokic. 
Coach Spo really knows how to utilize his roster and the same goes for coach Malone. They're both good coaches and they're not putting the pressure to their players but instead it's like you get inside and play along with your teammates and that's it. They know each of their roles and that can't be taken from them so, after the Celtics and Heat. The match of Denver and Heat is what we're all waiting to see since there has been a lot of interesting facts for both of them.

The bookies surely did make a lot of money, because people were expecting the Lakers to have at least 1 win back at home, but definitely didn't happen lol.
As always, they do. Whenever a favorite team plays, too many bettors are there and think of being able to recover and might defy the history but no can do.

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Nuggets vs Heat is a great finals matchup, they fit each other so well too. Lowry could defend Murray, but I am guessing that Butler, known for his defensive talents as well, could try his hand defending Murray too, or they could simply do a switch. Think about it, Adebayo and Butler facing Jokic and Murray down low, that is definitely something that can be done, a very difficult one to switch because Butler on Jokic is a tough one, but not an impossible one neither. I think it could definitely work, they could face each other equally. I am sure that it will not be easy series for anyone, both teams will be very tough to beat, but I still see Nuggets a bit better right now, Jokic deserved MVP this year too, it was just voters fatigue, and he will get FMVP instead.

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May 23, 2023, 10:09:10 PM
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well, I already commented here that I didn't understand why they were putting the lakers as favorites in this game when it just didn't make much sense to me since the Nuggets proved to be much superior to the lakers in every game and history shows that in this type of situation is irreversible, so lakers players would not come to this game hoping to win to reverse this whole situation, at most they would come to play to comply with the schedule and also avoid humiliating defeat and also all lakers players would probably be more worried getting out of the game without injuries and thinking about the next season because everything was already decided

As for today's heat game against the celtics and the same situation as the lakers, I don't believe that the celtics will be able to reverse this whole situation and it's funny that in this game the heat is the favorite and the bookmakers are right, the heat clearly have an irreversible advantage, they will be playing at home and motivated, so all the celtics can do is avoid having the same humiliating defeat they had in the last game, so they will do everything so that they don't lose by a big difference of points , the odds for this game are good, the heat has an odd of @1.84 in case of victory, I am considering betting on the heat to win the game

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The Denver Nuggets just had the better team.  The Lakers had no answer for Jamal Murray or MPJ.  Not to mention the Lakers were a team thrown together at the last minute who barely played together while the Nuggets have been building their team for years.  I think if the Lakers had a healthy LeBron for an entire year and were able to address some of their weaknesses in the offseason, they could have a shot.  It'll be tough though with teams like Denver existing, who are still very young and could be a new dynasty.

There's no doubt the Nuggets are better than the Lakers, as they didn't even give them a chance to come back in that series. However, we should also give credit to the Lakers, as they've done surprisingly well this season, especially in the playoffs. Honestly, I think getting rid of Westbrook was a turning point for the Lakers because that's when they started to perform much better.

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May 24, 2023, 12:06:01 AM
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well, I already commented here that I didn't understand why they were putting the lakers as favorites in this game when it just didn't make much sense to me since the Nuggets proved to be much superior to the lakers in every game and history shows that in this type of situation is irreversible, so lakers players would not come to this game hoping to win to reverse this whole situation, at most they would come to play to comply with the schedule and also avoid humiliating defeat and also all lakers players would probably be more worried getting out of the game without injuries and thinking about the next season because everything was already decided

As for today's heat game against the celtics and the same situation as the lakers, I don't believe that the celtics will be able to reverse this whole situation and it's funny that in this game the heat is the favorite and the bookmakers are right, the heat clearly have an irreversible advantage, they will be playing at home and motivated, so all the celtics can do is avoid having the same humiliating defeat they had in the last game, so they will do everything so that they don't lose by a big difference of points , the odds for this game are good, the heat has an odd of @1.84 in case of victory, I am considering betting on the heat to win the game

It's because they are still in their homecourt, so bookies might think that it's a advantage. And it really affect how the players play on their homecourt. We've seen that the Lakers blew away Memphis and GSW at Crypto.com in their series.

But it's a different Nuggets team, Murray is healthy, Jokic is putting great numbers and the whole team is playing good defense.

Same with the Heat vs Celtics, the Heat is the favorite because they are going to play at home and they just defeated Boston Celtics with a huge numbers in game 3 as well.
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The Denver Nuggets just had the better team.  The Lakers had no answer for Jamal Murray or MPJ.  Not to mention the Lakers were a team thrown together at the last minute who barely played together while the Nuggets have been building their team for years.  I think if the Lakers had a healthy LeBron for an entire year and were able to address some of their weaknesses in the offseason, they could have a shot.  It'll be tough though with teams like Denver existing, who are still very young and could be a new dynasty.

There's no doubt the Nuggets are better than the Lakers, as they didn't even give them a chance to come back in that series. However, we should also give credit to the Lakers, as they've done surprisingly well this season, especially in the playoffs. Honestly, I think getting rid of Westbrook was a turning point for the Lakers because that's when they started to perform much better.

Yeah man I mean when your best player has been in the league for 20 years, and you still make your way to the conference finals, that's damn impressive.  I didn't expect them to take out the Golden State Warriors, even though I was certainly hoping that they would.

It was a positive year for them despite not making it on to the championships.  Hope Lebron comes back.  I think he will though.

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May 24, 2023, 04:06:22 AM
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It was a positive year for them despite not making it on to the championships.  Hope Lebron comes back.  I think he will though.

That's for sure. I think people are simply expecting too much from a team that hasn't been consistent in the regular season. The new additions came after Westbrook was traded, so they haven't had the opportunity to develop the chemistry necessary to win a championship. But, man, reaching the conference finals despite the odds is more than impressive; there isn't a word that adequately describes it.

LeBron haters will continue to hate, but the man is a legend, although he may not be considered the GOAT (Greatest of All Time) just yet.

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May 24, 2023, 04:57:56 AM
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Lebron James' cryptic message at the post-game interview is more on the trend than the game today.  Grin

Boston Celtics defeated the Miami Heat in Game 4. I think the Heat got relaxed. It was not the same energy as their last 3 games. The defense was not entirely there and their undrafted players are not as effective as in their past games. Boston Celtics on the other hand was locked in on both ends of the floor, with 8 steals and 8 blocks, 10 turnovers against 15 of Miami, their 3-pointers were sinking in, and Grant Williams was 4/6 from the distant range.
That's the best Celtics that I have seen in this entire series and Tatum also working on the 4th quarter.
There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.

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May 24, 2023, 05:40:06 AM
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There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.


They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.
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There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.


They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.
Celtics finally got a win, but there is no way they can win 4 in a row. All they did was delay the inevitable IMO. I was hoping we seen history though and both series finals ended with sweeps.

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May 24, 2023, 07:29:39 AM
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There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.


They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.
Celtics finally got a win, but there is no way they can win 4 in a row. All they did was delay the inevitable IMO. I was hoping we seen history though and both series finals ended with sweeps.
I was looking at that possibility as well, it's really something if that both happened. This means it could be a more epic NBA Finals if that happened but that didn't happen. Both teams would be fighting so much that they would be showing who's the real champs.



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There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.


They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.
Celtics finally got a win, but there is no way they can win 4 in a row. All they did was delay the inevitable IMO. I was hoping we seen history though and both series finals ended with sweeps.

Maybe they want the fans to witness them losing the game at home, LOL. But it was a great effort by the Celtics. That was the team that had been dominating in the regular season. The ball movement was very well organized, and they showed trust in each other. Additionally, their defense was notable as the Heat struggled with their 3-point shooting, indicating that the Celtics were quick enough to prevent open shots for the shooters.
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