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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case?
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August 27, 2017, 01:18:23 AM |
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? I know IT was injured in the finals game but I don't that was really a serious injury like what happened to Paul George and Derrick Rose. It should be a rumor, maybe Boston still cannot accept this decision because IMO it would be the cavaliers who will surely get the big benefits in this trade. If we compare Thomas and Irving's performance this season, there is no big difference but the advantage is they got crowder who's a good shooter and a defender.
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August 27, 2017, 01:25:28 AM |
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Well the Cavs got the benefit of the trade simply because Kyrie does not want to play there anymore. My thoughts are that Kyrie just doesn't want to put in the work that LBJ requires from his players. He got his title, he probably just wants to chill and play no D, coast through the season. No one can question Isaiah Thomas' heart but he's a class below Kyrie. Crowder's a dime a dozen player you can find anywhere, nothing special about him. Key to the Celtics recent success has always been their coach Brad Stevens, probably best in the league.
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August 27, 2017, 03:57:18 AM |
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team.
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August 27, 2017, 06:27:07 AM |
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Well the Cavs got the benefit of the trade simply because Kyrie does not want to play there anymore. My thoughts are that Kyrie just doesn't want to put in the work that LBJ requires from his players. He got his title, he probably just wants to chill and play no D, coast through the season. No one can question Isaiah Thomas' heart but he's a class below Kyrie. Crowder's a dime a dozen player you can find anywhere, nothing special about him. Key to the Celtics recent success has always been their coach Brad Stevens, probably best in the league.
I don't think kyrie's planning on just chilling and be the main man without defending like harden, no by a long shot. You can't question he kid's heart and personally, i don't think the cavs would've won a championship without irving even with lebron leading. I kinda like the celtics' lineup on paper though but i agree, coach stevens would have to find a way to make things work after their good run last season with isaiah
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August 27, 2017, 07:36:18 AM |
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Well the Cavs got the benefit of the trade simply because Kyrie does not want to play there anymore. My thoughts are that Kyrie just doesn't want to put in the work that LBJ requires from his players. He got his title, he probably just wants to chill and play no D, coast through the season. No one can question Isaiah Thomas' heart but he's a class below Kyrie. Crowder's a dime a dozen player you can find anywhere, nothing special about him. Key to the Celtics recent success has always been their coach Brad Stevens, probably best in the league.
I don't think kyrie's planning on just chilling and be the main man without defending like harden, no by a long shot. You can't question he kid's heart and personally, i don't think the cavs would've won a championship without irving even with lebron leading. I kinda like the celtics' lineup on paper though but i agree, coach stevens would have to find a way to make things work after their good run last season with isaiah We are about to find out once the season will start, this move is needed for both team because they are all looking for improvement. In my personal view, I really like the move of the cavaliers, and I think they have a shot to compete with the cavaliers this season.
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August 27, 2017, 07:46:47 AM |
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Well the Cavs got the benefit of the trade simply because Kyrie does not want to play there anymore. My thoughts are that Kyrie just doesn't want to put in the work that LBJ requires from his players. He got his title, he probably just wants to chill and play no D, coast through the season. No one can question Isaiah Thomas' heart but he's a class below Kyrie. Crowder's a dime a dozen player you can find anywhere, nothing special about him. Key to the Celtics recent success has always been their coach Brad Stevens, probably best in the league.
I don't think kyrie's planning on just chilling and be the main man without defending like harden, no by a long shot. You can't question he kid's heart and personally, i don't think the cavs would've won a championship without irving even with lebron leading. I kinda like the celtics' lineup on paper though but i agree, coach stevens would have to find a way to make things work after their good run last season with isaiah I think his defense is under rated. He is a good defender and he can even make a steal from Curry during the last finals. So no question that he has defensive skills. Unless Coach Stevens can draw plays that will make it easier for Irving to score then the better. We all know what he can do as evident of last year run. But for me it will take at least 20 games or more to see where Kyrie really fit in the Boston roster. Let see how Kyrie adjust to Brad Stevens offensive/defensive kind of game. However, Cavs still get the good end of the bargain here.
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August 27, 2017, 08:25:23 AM |
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Well the Cavs got the benefit of the trade simply because Kyrie does not want to play there anymore. My thoughts are that Kyrie just doesn't want to put in the work that LBJ requires from his players. He got his title, he probably just wants to chill and play no D, coast through the season. No one can question Isaiah Thomas' heart but he's a class below Kyrie. Crowder's a dime a dozen player you can find anywhere, nothing special about him. Key to the Celtics recent success has always been their coach Brad Stevens, probably best in the league.
I don't think kyrie's planning on just chilling and be the main man without defending like harden, no by a long shot. You can't question he kid's heart and personally, i don't think the cavs would've won a championship without irving even with lebron leading. I kinda like the celtics' lineup on paper though but i agree, coach stevens would have to find a way to make things work after their good run last season with isaiah I think his defense is under rated. He is a good defender and he can even make a steal from Curry during the last finals. So no question that he has defensive skills. Unless Coach Stevens can draw plays that will make it easier for Irving to score then the better. We all know what he can do as evident of last year run. But for me it will take at least 20 games or more to see where Kyrie really fit in the Boston roster. Let see how Kyrie adjust to Brad Stevens offensive/defensive kind of game. However, Cavs still get the good end of the bargain here. Yeah I also believe on that, Kyrie is a talented player but it's not enough to run a good team alone. If Lebron cannot win a championship with him alone, I don't think Kyrie can. IMO, there is no big names in Boston to play with Kyrie, although I may say that players like Hayward and Horford are improving but they do not possess an MVP talent.
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August 27, 2017, 05:36:36 PM |
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I think his defense is under rated. He is a good defender and he can even make a steal from Curry during the last finals. So no question that he has defensive skills.
Unless Coach Stevens can draw plays that will make it easier for Irving to score then the better. We all know what he can do as evident of last year run. But for me it will take at least 20 games or more to see where Kyrie really fit in the Boston roster. Let see how Kyrie adjust to Brad Stevens offensive/defensive kind of game. However, Cavs still get the good end of the bargain here.
Yeah I also believe on that, Kyrie is a talented player but it's not enough to run a good team alone. If Lebron cannot win a championship with him alone, I don't think Kyrie can. IMO, there is no big names in Boston to play with Kyrie, although I may say that players like Hayward and Horford are improving but they do not possess an MVP talent. That's why to cover criticism, Boston Celtics must made it somehow on the top even they will not win a championship just to prove that the deal is really worth. It's not just about Kyrie Irving but Celtics is on the table too since they gave up their key players. Is it a good decision for Celtics management or they totally waste some players just to acquire Kyrie? They must prove it once season started and must finish a good spot in case there is no finals appearance show for this team.
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August 28, 2017, 01:12:44 AM |
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team. Or it could be a bluff by the Cavs to get more assets from Boston.
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August 28, 2017, 03:29:50 AM |
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team. Or it could be a bluff by the Cavs to get more assets from Boston. can consider that mate as we knew that cavs really aiming again for another rematch against gsw and doing everything to make sure that they have that edge because losing kyrie will be a big adjustment though they've got thomas and Crowder but still its different when kyrie who really can manage the floor without lbj inside, let see how this drama will end and how the season will start.
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August 28, 2017, 03:55:49 AM |
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team. Or it could be a bluff by the Cavs to get more assets from Boston. can consider that mate as we knew that cavs really aiming again for another rematch against gsw and doing everything to make sure that they have that edge because losing kyrie will be a big adjustment though they've got thomas and Crowder but still its different when kyrie who really can manage the floor without lbj inside, let see how this drama will end and how the season will start. This is really a serious thing in sports also considering the fact that Isaiah Thomas is one of the centerpiece in this trade the Cavaliers should really re-visit the negotiations. You know how serious are the medical check ups in the Football worlds? If you are not cleared in your medical the transfer will be void immediately, as having a player who isn't worth the money isn't worth the trade at all. I am just saying if the Cavaliers are wanting to give away Kyrie Irving then they should really look if Isaiah Thomas can play.
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August 29, 2017, 04:16:00 AM |
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team. Or it could be a bluff by the Cavs to get more assets from Boston. can consider that mate as we knew that cavs really aiming again for another rematch against gsw and doing everything to make sure that they have that edge because losing kyrie will be a big adjustment though they've got thomas and Crowder but still its different when kyrie who really can manage the floor without lbj inside, let see how this drama will end and how the season will start. Actually, I've read an article analyzing the Cav's offense. There they conclyded that Kyrie, on his own, without LBJ on the floor, isn't very efficient, as compared to LBJ alone in the floor without Kyrie. So it suggests that it's Kyrie that needs LBJ in the team and not the other way around.
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August 29, 2017, 05:31:37 AM |
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team. Or it could be a bluff by the Cavs to get more assets from Boston. can consider that mate as we knew that cavs really aiming again for another rematch against gsw and doing everything to make sure that they have that edge because losing kyrie will be a big adjustment though they've got thomas and Crowder but still its different when kyrie who really can manage the floor without lbj inside, let see how this drama will end and how the season will start. Actually, I've read an article analyzing the Cav's offense. There they conclyded that Kyrie, on his own, without LBJ on the floor, isn't very efficient, as compared to LBJ alone in the floor without Kyrie. So it suggests that it's Kyrie that needs LBJ in the team and not the other way around. That's pretty obvious, Kyrie is good but Lebron is better than him, there is a reason why Lebron is a high paid athlete and has won championships in different team. When Lebron want anything he gets it, that's how valuable he is in the team now that he has proven he can give championship to the team.
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August 29, 2017, 06:48:28 AM |
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team. Or it could be a bluff by the Cavs to get more assets from Boston. can consider that mate as we knew that cavs really aiming again for another rematch against gsw and doing everything to make sure that they have that edge because losing kyrie will be a big adjustment though they've got thomas and Crowder but still its different when kyrie who really can manage the floor without lbj inside, let see how this drama will end and how the season will start. Actually, I've read an article analyzing the Cav's offense. There they conclyded that Kyrie, on his own, without LBJ on the floor, isn't very efficient, as compared to LBJ alone in the floor without Kyrie. So it suggests that it's Kyrie that needs LBJ in the team and not the other way around. That's pretty obvious, Kyrie is good but Lebron is better than him, there is a reason why Lebron is a high paid athlete and has won championships in different team. When Lebron want anything he gets it, that's how valuable he is in the team now that he has proven he can give championship to the team. Both of them can't win championships on their own. Last years championship was more kyrie responding to pressure and the clutch. Though ge cavs probably wouldn't even be the championship without lebron. Let's see how things go from as we might be seeing an early meeting betweem the cavs and the celtics.
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August 29, 2017, 08:41:53 AM |
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Can't wait for the start of the next season. This should be another exciting one as more players are showcasing their talents for different teams. I would love to see Kristaps Porzingis takeover the New York Knicks and unleash the full potential and hopefully become an All-Star. The West is still pretty predictable with the Warriors looking stronger than ever, while the East could be anybody's ballgame, given how the Bucks, the Wizards, and of course the Celtics have gained confidence in the last playoffs, but the Cavs could prove to still be the best in the East after all that's been said and done.
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August 29, 2017, 09:22:15 AM |
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team. Or it could be a bluff by the Cavs to get more assets from Boston. can consider that mate as we knew that cavs really aiming again for another rematch against gsw and doing everything to make sure that they have that edge because losing kyrie will be a big adjustment though they've got thomas and Crowder but still its different when kyrie who really can manage the floor without lbj inside, let see how this drama will end and how the season will start. Actually, I've read an article analyzing the Cav's offense. There they conclyded that Kyrie, on his own, without LBJ on the floor, isn't very efficient, as compared to LBJ alone in the floor without Kyrie. So it suggests that it's Kyrie that needs LBJ in the team and not the other way around. That's pretty obvious, Kyrie is good but Lebron is better than him, there is a reason why Lebron is a high paid athlete and has won championships in different team. When Lebron want anything he gets it, that's how valuable he is in the team now that he has proven he can give championship to the team. Both of them can't win championships on their own. Last years championship was more kyrie responding to pressure and the clutch. Though ge cavs probably wouldn't even be the championship without lebron. Let's see how things go from as we might be seeing an early meeting betweem the cavs and the celtics. Of course you don't need analysis on that. Its easy to see the Lebron is really the heart and soul of the Cavs. And its also pretty much obvious that Lebron is a total package, unlike Kyrie, though they really compensate each other very well. But during the last final meeting with Golden State, I saw something that I might say that there is going on between the two that affected the performance of the team. As a result, Kyrie decided to leave and pursue other teams and the rest is history.
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team. Or it could be a bluff by the Cavs to get more assets from Boston. can consider that mate as we knew that cavs really aiming again for another rematch against gsw and doing everything to make sure that they have that edge because losing kyrie will be a big adjustment though they've got thomas and Crowder but still its different when kyrie who really can manage the floor without lbj inside, let see how this drama will end and how the season will start. Actually, I've read an article analyzing the Cav's offense. There they conclyded that Kyrie, on his own, without LBJ on the floor, isn't very efficient, as compared to LBJ alone in the floor without Kyrie. So it suggests that it's Kyrie that needs LBJ in the team and not the other way around. That's pretty obvious, Kyrie is good but Lebron is better than him, there is a reason why Lebron is a high paid athlete and has won championships in different team. When Lebron want anything he gets it, that's how valuable he is in the team now that he has proven he can give championship to the team. Both of them can't win championships on their own. Last years championship was more kyrie responding to pressure and the clutch. Though ge cavs probably wouldn't even be the championship without lebron. Let's see how things go from as we might be seeing an early meeting betweem the cavs and the celtics. Of course you don't need analysis on that. Its easy to see the Lebron is really the heart and soul of the Cavs. And its also pretty much obvious that Lebron is a total package, unlike Kyrie, though they really compensate each other very well. But during the last final meeting with Golden State, I saw something that I might say that there is going on between the two that affected the performance of the team. As a result, Kyrie decided to leave and pursue other teams and the rest is history. Well take away kyrie from the cav's championship run coming back from 1-3 and the outcome may have been different. Kyrie carried the cavs during the crucial stages of that series and bron, though getting his usual numbers, isn't as dependable as kyrie in crunch
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Hip injury? I thought that was all recovered. Anyways, I've never heard of a trade void before, because of an injury. Would this be the first in case? Another twist in the ongoing drama about the trade. It could be included in the contract as well, that they can void it once they see that Isiah Thomas is not fit to play in exchange of a healthy Kyrie Irving. Well its just a rumor and we will have to what for the next episode of this soap opera. I also guessing that the extent of the injury of Isiah Thomas is not that big and he has already recovered. He's injury in not life threatening that he can't play anymore. But still though, maybe Cavaliers management just wanted to make sure because they are giving up their no. 2 scorer in the team. Or it could be a bluff by the Cavs to get more assets from Boston. can consider that mate as we knew that cavs really aiming again for another rematch against gsw and doing everything to make sure that they have that edge because losing kyrie will be a big adjustment though they've got thomas and Crowder but still its different when kyrie who really can manage the floor without lbj inside, let see how this drama will end and how the season will start. Actually, I've read an article analyzing the Cav's offense. There they conclyded that Kyrie, on his own, without LBJ on the floor, isn't very efficient, as compared to LBJ alone in the floor without Kyrie. So it suggests that it's Kyrie that needs LBJ in the team and not the other way around. That's pretty obvious, Kyrie is good but Lebron is better than him, there is a reason why Lebron is a high paid athlete and has won championships in different team. When Lebron want anything he gets it, that's how valuable he is in the team now that he has proven he can give championship to the team. Kyrie Irving is a deadly scorer, perhaps the one with the most killer instinct especially down the stretch but that's it sadly, he's not a good defender, not a good rebounder or even passer. He's of course lethal when he is on fire. I still think he's doing the right thing here if he doesn't want to progress in developing his game (like Kevin Love did). If he's just looking to be a star every night, take 25-30 shots, well he needs to go to another team, the Cavs doesn't have that many shots to spare plus he and Lebron get a lot of isolation plays and the rest of the team chemistry suffers. Irving would do well but he's very far from being able to win on his own. I would compare him to a poor's man Harden. On the other hand, he already has a ring and he's a Cavaliers legend, no one can take that away from him.
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