2024 NBA Season

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Gordon is good only at 3 points and he is not a good perimeter shooter. Melo can shoot at perimeter and at the same time can shoot threes. Take note that when Melo is on the Knicks, there is one time that they clinched the playoffs although they are 7th IIRC. They are putting Gordon into the 2nd unit in order to have a shooter and Melo doesn't want to be on the 2nd unit. Ego strikes again .

That's the reason why Melo is so overrated, he needs to live up on our expectation because he believe he is good.
Rockets is the best team in the west last season because they are the no. 1, I hope he will not ruin that reputation, we expect an improvement of Rockets.

Also rockets provide melo as a third option on starting spot, gordon is the leader of the second unit, there is a big difference.
When gordon is on the field, harden is usually not (sometimes they collide if cp3 rests) so when you talk about gordon being a bench leader, melo is a third option behind cp3 and harden yet gordon is FIRST when its bench time.

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Best website to follow NBA news is definitely reddit, they even share the twitter news there which means you can get the news in minutes after it will be released out. You may wonder like it is a not proper way of following NBA, but once start using, I am sure no one will leave off reddit for moving out for another one.

[FlightyPouch]

I read somewhere that Anthony will be Rockets' third option in offense. How come he is better option in offense than Gordon lol? You can compare Gordon with him, Gordon is way over Carmelo's league.

Gordon is better in shooting but not an all around shooter, the length and the strength of melo is a difference maker.
Well, we cannot conclude now, what I am saying is just based on their past performance, if Melo will step up, then for sure Rockets has a chance to be the number 1 in the west again.

Gordon is great but yeah he is not an all around shooter but if you will be watching the game of GSW and Rockets where Gordon is guarding Stephen Curry, Steph is having a hard time making some buckets. He did a great job last season and that is also the reason why he is also nominated as a sixth man. I guess there are a plan the reason why Melo is called out at Rockets. Let's just wait what will happen this season.

[Reid]

I read somewhere that Anthony will be Rockets' third option in offense. How come he is better option in offense than Gordon lol? You can compare Gordon with him, Gordon is way over Carmelo's league.

Gordon is better in shooting but not an all around shooter, the length and the strength of melo is a difference maker.
Well, we cannot conclude now, what I am saying is just based on their past performance, if Melo will step up, then for sure Rockets has a chance to be the number 1 in the west again.

Melo is no longer a difference maker.

And that is the truth.
He became a Grant Hill like and Carter like player but he did not get injured badly.
Shooting outside without inside moves anymore. Just doing perimeter shots and back down for 2 to 3 times for a fadeaway.
This aint his game before. He might be getting old but so is Lebron and yet they are way different with the kind of games they play.
The agility of Melo is not there anymore.

[Vasilije69]

I read somewhere that Anthony will be Rockets' third option in offense. How come he is better option in offense than Gordon lol? You can compare Gordon with him, Gordon is way over Carmelo's league.

Gordon is better in shooting but not an all around shooter, the length and the strength of melo is a difference maker.
Well, we cannot conclude now, what I am saying is just based on their past performance, if Melo will step up, then for sure Rockets has a chance to be the number 1 in the west again.

Melo is no longer a difference maker.

And that is the truth.
He became a Grant Hill like and Carter like player but he did not get injured badly.
Shooting outside without inside moves anymore. Just doing perimeter shots and back down for 2 to 3 times for a fadeaway.
This aint his game before. He might be getting old but so is Lebron and yet they are way different with the kind of games they play.
The agility of Melo is not there anymore.

That's true. Also, Melo looked kinda uninterested last two seasons. Let's see if the fact that he can finally fight for winning a title motivate him to push himself onto higher level.

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I guess the other thread must be closed now since OP has updated the title.

So everybody can stay with this thread and keep on discussing about the new season.

[LogitechMouse]

I guess the other thread must be closed now since OP has updated the title.

So everybody can stay with this thread and keep on discussing about the new season.

This has been done once when the OP of the new thread announced it here but unfortunately, many didn't see it and they continued to post here. I think we must migrate in that new thread and the OP of this thread must lock it.

[batang_bitcoin]

I guess the other thread must be closed now since OP has updated the title.

So everybody can stay with this thread and keep on discussing about the new season.

This has been done once when the OP of the new thread announced it here but unfortunately, many didn't see it and they continued to post here. I think we must migrate in that new thread and the OP of this thread must lock it.

Depends on what's the majority's decision otherwise, dual thread will be at the same section and ideas and thoughts will be divided.

If none of the two give way to close or lock their thread, a mod will lock it.

[btc_angela]

I read somewhere that Anthony will be Rockets' third option in offense. How come he is better option in offense than Gordon lol? You can compare Gordon with him, Gordon is way over Carmelo's league.

Gordon is better in shooting but not an all around shooter, the length and the strength of melo is a difference maker.
Well, we cannot conclude now, what I am saying is just based on their past performance, if Melo will step up, then for sure Rockets has a chance to be the number 1 in the west again.

Melo is no longer a difference maker.

And that is the truth.
He became a Grant Hill like and Carter like player but he did not get injured badly.
Shooting outside without inside moves anymore. Just doing perimeter shots and back down for 2 to 3 times for a fadeaway.
This aint his game before. He might be getting old but so is Lebron and yet they are way different with the kind of games they play.
The agility of Melo is not there anymore.

That's true. Also, Melo looked kinda uninterested last two seasons. Let's see if the fact that he can finally fight for winning a title motivate him to push himself onto higher level.

Yes, it looks like he lost some of his mentality about the game, specially what has happened to him in New York. Well Grant Hill just injured badly, but he somewhat improved a lot of defence that's why teams are still interested on him. While Carter loves shooting outside and can still put up some points and show flashes of his old self. Anthony though is different, no fire in his eye, no defence, shooting becomes worst.

[Reid]

Yes, it looks like he lost some of his mentality about the game, specially what has happened to him in New York. Well Grant Hill just injured badly, but he somewhat improved a lot of defence that's why teams are still interested on him. While Carter loves shooting outside and can still put up some points and show flashes of his old self. Anthony though is different, no fire in his eye, no defence, shooting becomes worst.

Grant Hill still proved himself worthy in his Phoenix times with Steve Nash. He can still run with the young players doing a lot of fastbreaks even with the injury that he had.

I guess you are right. There is no more fire in Melo. That kind of game where he could change the flow of it is left in the Denver histories.
After that there were no more explosions from him at New York Knicks. He is lucky that Knicks preserved him there with a good salary.
If I am the Houston Management, I would rather risk it with a young player.

[Indamuck]

Yes, it looks like he lost some of his mentality about the game, specially what has happened to him in New York. Well Grant Hill just injured badly, but he somewhat improved a lot of defence that's why teams are still interested on him. While Carter loves shooting outside and can still put up some points and show flashes of his old self. Anthony though is different, no fire in his eye, no defence, shooting becomes worst.

Grant Hill still proved himself worthy in his Phoenix times with Steve Nash. He can still run with the young players doing a lot of fastbreaks even with the injury that he had.

I guess you are right. There is no more fire in Melo. That kind of game where he could change the flow of it is left in the Denver histories.
After that there were no more explosions from him at New York Knicks. He is lucky that Knicks preserved him there with a good salary.
If I am the Houston Management, I would rather risk it with a young player.

It's rare for a player past the age of 35 to still perform at an elite level.  There are a few examples such as Kareem, Karl Malone, Jordan. etc.  I don't think Carmelo has the work ethic to contribute much to a new team at this point in his career.  Melo was never big on winning, he went to New York for the fame and the money, it wasn't about winning with Anthony.

[DIA7]

Yes, it looks like he lost some of his mentality about the game, specially what has happened to him in New York. Well Grant Hill just injured badly, but he somewhat improved a lot of defence that's why teams are still interested on him. While Carter loves shooting outside and can still put up some points and show flashes of his old self. Anthony though is different, no fire in his eye, no defence, shooting becomes worst.

Grant Hill still proved himself worthy in his Phoenix times with Steve Nash. He can still run with the young players doing a lot of fastbreaks even with the injury that he had.

I guess you are right. There is no more fire in Melo. That kind of game where he could change the flow of it is left in the Denver histories.
After that there were no more explosions from him at New York Knicks. He is lucky that Knicks preserved him there with a good salary.
If I am the Houston Management, I would rather risk it with a young player.

It's rare for a player past the age of 35 to still perform at an elite level.  There are a few examples such as Kareem, Karl Malone, Jordan. etc.  I don't think Carmelo has the work ethic to contribute much to a new team at this point in his career.  Melo was never big on winning, he went to New York for the fame and the money, it wasn't about winning with Anthony.

Melo is known in the league for his jump and shooting and at the time the NBA was still a grit and grind, heavy defense league. This made him a standout scorer but the game has changed and now his style is becoming more irrelevant so if Melo  improved his defense and maybe try to spent some time on his defense that will defintly be a gamechanger for him and teams would be lining up to get him. Rocket's maybe should go for Ariza as he is better at defense but Melo beat him in offense but again Ariza still can't match GSW with his defense so Melo will be better at that game also a defensive liability at the same time at the end i expect Melo to play at SF a lot of the time with the Rockets and average above 30 minutes per game.

[Ranly123]

I read somewhere that Anthony will be Rockets' third option in offense. How come he is better option in offense than Gordon lol? You can compare Gordon with him, Gordon is way over Carmelo's league.

Gordon is better in shooting but not an all around shooter, the length and the strength of melo is a difference maker.
Well, we cannot conclude now, what I am saying is just based on their past performance, if Melo will step up, then for sure Rockets has a chance to be the number 1 in the west again.

Melo stepping up? How? He can't even carry a team now. I will choose Gordon over melo even with their high difference, though melo had the advantage but the heart of Gordon is way bigger than him.

[btc_angela]

Yes, it looks like he lost some of his mentality about the game, specially what has happened to him in New York. Well Grant Hill just injured badly, but he somewhat improved a lot of defence that's why teams are still interested on him. While Carter loves shooting outside and can still put up some points and show flashes of his old self. Anthony though is different, no fire in his eye, no defence, shooting becomes worst.

Grant Hill still proved himself worthy in his Phoenix times with Steve Nash. He can still run with the young players doing a lot of fastbreaks even with the injury that he had.

I guess you are right. There is no more fire in Melo. That kind of game where he could change the flow of it is left in the Denver histories.
After that there were no more explosions from him at New York Knicks. He is lucky that Knicks preserved him there with a good salary.
If I am the Houston Management, I would rather risk it with a young player.

Aww, the truth really hurts, hehehe

@Indamuck, that's the main difference between an elite players like you mentioned, and good players, elite performs consistent even if their body and age says otherwise, while good players, can't cope with the demands and can't evolve and doesn't want to get out of there comfort zone.

@DIA7, he may average above 30 minutes, but if he can't contribute, then I would rather bench him and get players that can help at least in defense, the offense can be taken care of Harden / Paul. Ariza though has left Houston and chooses Phoenix for a 1 year deal.

[crwth]

I read somewhere that Anthony will be Rockets' third option in offense. How come he is better option in offense than Gordon lol? You can compare Gordon with him, Gordon is way over Carmelo's league.

Gordon is better in shooting but not an all around shooter, the length and the strength of melo is a difference maker.
Well, we cannot conclude now, what I am saying is just based on their past performance, if Melo will step up, then for sure Rockets has a chance to be the number 1 in the west again.

Melo stepping up? How? He can't even carry a team now. I will choose Gordon over melo even with their high difference, though melo had the advantage but the heart of Gordon is way bigger than him.

If he continues to the rockets, he would have less ball time knowing he has Chris Paul and James Harden as a teammate. Knowing that last season, he didn't get well with George and Westbrook and had a low scoring point and shorter time during the Playoffs. As I have read in an article.

[Captain Corporate]

I guess the other thread must be closed now since OP has updated the title.

So everybody can stay with this thread and keep on discussing about the new season.

This has been done once when the OP of the new thread announced it here but unfortunately, many didn't see it and they continued to post here. I think we must migrate in that new thread and the OP of this thread must lock it.

Depends on what's the majority's decision otherwise, dual thread will be at the same section and ideas and thoughts will be divided.

If none of the two give way to close or lock their thread, a mod will lock it.

 Locked it, wasn't expecting this one to change.

[Kemarit]

Ok guys, let move on and not discuss about Melo anymore.  . I'm really interested to see what's the reason behind Paul George opting to stay with OKC despite their poor showing last season. OKC have every reason to suspect that Paul will leave because he wanted to play close to home, with the Los Angeles Lakers. However, it looks like Russ has played a major part and it seems those two are pretty close more than we initially thought. And for me that is the reason why he stayed with OKC, those two are building up some chemistry it and out of the court.

[Reid]

Yes, it looks like he lost some of his mentality about the game, specially what has happened to him in New York. Well Grant Hill just injured badly, but he somewhat improved a lot of defence that's why teams are still interested on him. While Carter loves shooting outside and can still put up some points and show flashes of his old self. Anthony though is different, no fire in his eye, no defence, shooting becomes worst.

Grant Hill still proved himself worthy in his Phoenix times with Steve Nash. He can still run with the young players doing a lot of fastbreaks even with the injury that he had.

I guess you are right. There is no more fire in Melo. That kind of game where he could change the flow of it is left in the Denver histories.
After that there were no more explosions from him at New York Knicks. He is lucky that Knicks preserved him there with a good salary.
If I am the Houston Management, I would rather risk it with a young player.

It's rare for a player past the age of 35 to still perform at an elite level.  There are a few examples such as Kareem, Karl Malone, Jordan. etc.  I don't think Carmelo has the work ethic to contribute much to a new team at this point in his career.  Melo was never big on winning, he went to New York for the fame and the money, it wasn't about winning with Anthony.

Correct.
You will see how much a player will bring to the game when he want that championship.
Look at how Jordan even took the Defensive player of the year.  He had nothing to prove those years and yet he still did it.
Hard work and competitiveness, all of that are actually lost in the NBA. They began to just think about the salary.

I am not saying all of them though, but mostly.

[Indamuck]

Ok guys, let move on and not discuss about Melo anymore.  . I'm really interested to see what's the reason behind Paul George opting to stay with OKC despite their poor showing last season. OKC have every reason to suspect that Paul will leave because he wanted to play close to home, with the Los Angeles Lakers. However, it looks like Russ has played a major part and it seems those two are pretty close more than we initially thought. And for me that is the reason why he stayed with OKC, those two are building up some chemistry it and out of the court.

I'm starting to realize that many professional athletes don't care about winning.  They will usually decide to stay with a team because of their family,friendships, the location , or some other reason.  They are getting paid millions to play a sport I doubt they are stressing about whether or not their team will win some trophy.  Of course not all players are like this, some legends really want to build a legacy.

[TravelMug]

Ok guys, let move on and not discuss about Melo anymore.  . I'm really interested to see what's the reason behind Paul George opting to stay with OKC despite their poor showing last season. OKC have every reason to suspect that Paul will leave because he wanted to play close to home, with the Los Angeles Lakers. However, it looks like Russ has played a major part and it seems those two are pretty close more than we initially thought. And for me that is the reason why he stayed with OKC, those two are building up some chemistry it and out of the court.

I'm starting to realize that many professional athletes don't care about winning.  They will usually decide to stay with a team because of their family,friendships, the location , or some other reason.  They are getting paid millions to play a sport I doubt they are stressing about whether or not their team will win some trophy.  Of course not all players are like this, some legends really want to build a legacy.

Got me thinking. Since they are being offered and paid good amounts right now perhaps its a easy way out for them not to stress. Gone were the days when players are really chasing for the elusive ring like Barkley or Ewing. And that is their only one goal. Unlike some players who would just wanted to play with each other, enjoy have some fun but at the end of the day, still complaining that they never got a ring during their NBA careers.

[Reid]

Ok guys, let move on and not discuss about Melo anymore.  . I'm really interested to see what's the reason behind Paul George opting to stay with OKC despite their poor showing last season. OKC have every reason to suspect that Paul will leave because he wanted to play close to home, with the Los Angeles Lakers. However, it looks like Russ has played a major part and it seems those two are pretty close more than we initially thought. And for me that is the reason why he stayed with OKC, those two are building up some chemistry it and out of the court.

That might be correct.

George became the wingman of Westbrook and both do good when it comes to the offense. Looks like Westbrook found the family that he had been looking for with PG13.  
If that is the case then they might show good stats this season. I believe George is still at his peak and will be showing a better offense once the chemistry goes stronger.
With 3 more years for Steven Adams then they are almost a complete team. They just need Roberson to be back for defense and Schroder to be a good 2nd team point guard in case Westbrook's stamina gets depleted.