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September 05, 2018, 07:18:46 PM
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Guys, bleacher report published "NBA Goat at every position". Do you agree/disagree?


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September 05, 2018, 07:48:13 PM
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He is willing to take the risk again but if he fails again, I think no think will sign him anymore.

Worst case scenario : RIP. That's the big risk. This isn't a joke.

Wants to get money, I doubt a team will give him a good decent contract. More possibility of getting a minimum veteran contract I believed which is really low. Yes according to him he can still play basketball, he knows his body after all but if ever a team will signed him, will that be worth it? We can't expect more minutes for him to play since for sure a team will consider his health.

It's really hard to accept for a player that he can't now play on a big screen although he think he can. It's a game passion and he didn't want the way he ended up in his career. Chris Bosh should considered be part of coaching staff instead after finally retiring for good.

At 35 years old, Chris Bosh should really think of not playing in a big league especially with his health status. It's over now and he can still contribute to the basketball world on another way.

I know he really have some guts but guts isn't enough in terms of health issues.

Teams will just think that they can't fully used the whole 100% of Chris Bosh since they will care surely with his health. In other words, limited playing time. And I think with that limited playing time, Chris Bosh will be more frustrated because he will think that his team is worrying about his health therefore he can't give his 100% to the team . So instead, Im agree, he should considered be part of coaching staff or a team staff. And as reply above, alongside court analyst.

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September 06, 2018, 03:28:02 AM
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He is willing to take the risk again but if he fails again, I think no think will sign him anymore.

Worst case scenario : RIP. That's the big risk. This isn't a joke.

Wants to get money, I doubt a team will give him a good decent contract. More possibility of getting a minimum veteran contract I believed which is really low. Yes according to him he can still play basketball, he knows his body after all but if ever a team will signed him, will that be worth it? We can't expect more minutes for him to play since for sure a team will consider his health.

It's really hard to accept for a player that he can't now play on a big screen although he think he can. It's a game passion and he didn't want the way he ended up in his career. Chris Bosh should considered be part of coaching staff instead after finally retiring for good.

At 35 years old, Chris Bosh should really think of not playing in a big league especially with his health status. It's over now and he can still contribute to the basketball world on another way.

I know he really have some guts but guts isn't enough in terms of health issues.

Teams will just think that they can't fully used the whole 100% of Chris Bosh since they will care surely with his health. In other words, limited playing time. And I think with that limited playing time, Chris Bosh will be more frustrated because he will think that his team is worrying about his health therefore he can't give his 100% to the team . So instead, Im agree, he should considered be part of coaching staff or a team staff. And as reply above, alongside court analyst.
Also his confidence will be also be affected because he cannot be aggressive and physical anymore since he is prone to injury.
If Rose were not able to come back at the some age, how much more this guy who also has some serious health problem.

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September 06, 2018, 11:07:39 AM
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He is willing to take the risk again but if he fails again, I think no think will sign him anymore.

Worst case scenario : RIP. That's the big risk. This isn't a joke.

Wants to get money, I doubt a team will give him a good decent contract. More possibility of getting a minimum veteran contract I believed which is really low. Yes according to him he can still play basketball, he knows his body after all but if ever a team will signed him, will that be worth it? We can't expect more minutes for him to play since for sure a team will consider his health.

It's really hard to accept for a player that he can't now play on a big screen although he think he can. It's a game passion and he didn't want the way he ended up in his career. Chris Bosh should considered be part of coaching staff instead after finally retiring for good.
Yeah, if Chris Bosh really love basketball he does not have to play to show it but he can be part of the coaching if he wants so as not to risk his life by playing. Sometimes we have to swallow that pride that we have for the good of us.
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September 06, 2018, 11:25:12 AM
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Here is a good trivia for everyone ever since the hand check rule was removed in 2004.

It was just Dirk Nowitzki whose position is forward/center who have won the season MVP when the rule was implemented.
After him are all guards and small forward which is only Lebron.

Steve Nash
Harden
Westbrook
Curry
Kobe

Why?
Hand check have been a great help before to keep up in front of shooters.
Before it was implemented MVP's are big men and only Jordan took a snatch out of it.

David Robinson
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Karl Malone

It is also said that there have been issues with NBA regarding profits since people are getting exhausted seeing just big men taking the throne.
They also want to see new shooters.

Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?
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September 06, 2018, 01:36:07 PM
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Here is a good trivia for everyone ever since the hand check rule was removed in 2004.

It was just Dirk Nowitzki whose position is forward/center who have won the season MVP when the rule was implemented.
After him are all guards and small forward which is only Lebron.

Steve Nash
Harden
Westbrook
Curry
Kobe

Why?
Hand check have been a great help before to keep up in front of shooters.
Before it was implemented MVP's are big men and only Jordan took a snatch out of it.

David Robinson
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Karl Malone

It is also said that there have been issues with NBA regarding profits since people are getting exhausted seeing just big men taking the throne.
They also want to see new shooters.

Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?



In some aspects - maybe. But I wouldn't be so critical. The game changes towards speed attack, small-ball & 3 pointers and it's fine for me. There are some other aspects of physicality, for example Russell Westbrook and his rides towards the rim.

Let's also check the new generation of centers - DeMarcus Cousins, Joel Embidd , Deandre Ayton. Even 7 years ago we didn't have in the league so strong and agile PF/C and this also change the game a lot. The other thing is that they are much more like Hakeem than Shaq + they started shooting threes as well.

I'm really curious in which direction will league evolve in upcoming years.
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September 06, 2018, 04:43:02 PM
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I doubt its about money to chris bosh, dude is a coder himself and has insane amount of investments in startups at silicon valley and made insane returns on those investments, so he is set for life about the money deal and according to
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/nba/chris-bosh-net-worth/ he worth around 80 million dollars which is insane amount for a person to live and he can make sure him and his family is set for generations with that kind of money, I am sure he can also get paid millions from endorsements and appearances so he will still have an income on his way if he decides to do that.
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September 06, 2018, 05:25:58 PM
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Here is a good trivia for everyone ever since the hand check rule was removed in 2004.

It was just Dirk Nowitzki whose position is forward/center who have won the season MVP when the rule was implemented.
After him are all guards and small forward which is only Lebron.

Steve Nash
Harden
Westbrook
Curry
Kobe

Why?
Hand check have been a great help before to keep up in front of shooters.
Before it was implemented MVP's are big men and only Jordan took a snatch out of it.

David Robinson
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Karl Malone

It is also said that there have been issues with NBA regarding profits since people are getting exhausted seeing just big men taking the throne.
They also want to see new shooters.

Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?



In some aspects - maybe. But I wouldn't be so critical. The game changes towards speed attack, small-ball & 3 pointers and it's fine for me. There are some other aspects of physicality, for example Russell Westbrook and his rides towards the rim.

Let's also check the new generation of centers - DeMarcus Cousins, Joel Embidd , Deandre Ayton. Even 7 years ago we didn't have in the league so strong and agile PF/C and this also change the game a lot. The other thing is that they are much more like Hakeem than Shaq + they started shooting threes as well.

I'm really curious in which direction will league evolve in upcoming years.

Well, that is what I heard from friends. Evolution of the league. Since they want Centers and Forwards to be faster now.
But have you seen the line up of GSW and Houston when they are playing the WCF?
It is a small one. GSW didnt use McGee much and Houston is also benching Clint Capela just to tie up with the GSW team with speed.

Before it was all about Rebounds and Blocks and mostly defensive thing that will win the game.
But now it became too much with offense. I just want to see another Piston team once again. If you know what I mean.
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September 06, 2018, 06:03:33 PM
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Here is a good trivia for everyone ever since the hand check rule was removed in 2004.

It was just Dirk Nowitzki whose position is forward/center who have won the season MVP when the rule was implemented.
After him are all guards and small forward which is only Lebron.

Steve Nash
Harden
Westbrook
Curry
Kobe

Why?
Hand check have been a great help before to keep up in front of shooters.
Before it was implemented MVP's are big men and only Jordan took a snatch out of it.

David Robinson
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Karl Malone

It is also said that there have been issues with NBA regarding profits since people are getting exhausted seeing just big men taking the throne.
They also want to see new shooters.

Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?



In some aspects - maybe. But I wouldn't be so critical. The game changes towards speed attack, small-ball & 3 pointers and it's fine for me. There are some other aspects of physicality, for example Russell Westbrook and his rides towards the rim.

Let's also check the new generation of centers - DeMarcus Cousins, Joel Embidd , Deandre Ayton. Even 7 years ago we didn't have in the league so strong and agile PF/C and this also change the game a lot. The other thing is that they are much more like Hakeem than Shaq + they started shooting threes as well.

I'm really curious in which direction will league evolve in upcoming years.

Well, that is what I heard from friends. Evolution of the league. Since they want Centers and Forwards to be faster now.
But have you seen the line up of GSW and Houston when they are playing the WCF?
It is a small one. GSW didnt use McGee much and Houston is also benching Clint Capela just to tie up with the GSW team with speed.

Before it was all about Rebounds and Blocks and mostly defensive thing that will win the game.
But now it became too much with offense. I just want to see another Piston team once again. If you know what I mean.

Well it's not just the game that evolved, the players adapted and have become more well rounded. You were right about the new generation of big men who could easily run the floor or shoot like a guard. Men who physically are able to play all 5 spots. Let's see in a couple of more years how this evolution would play out and it's quite interestinf as well. Another 04 pistons would be quite hard to come by at this age

 
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September 06, 2018, 07:39:40 PM
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Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?

In my view, no.

People are just seeing things like this because they are not used to it so there's really a comparison. Back then big guys doesn't really have a good shooting percentage so obviously they will try to dominate inside. Players today are more of sharp shooters even those centers so instead of pushing inside, they will used their advantage.

Again like I said in my past post back then, we just have to wait for those players that will back the inside action that most people want during past eras.

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September 06, 2018, 07:56:14 PM
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Here is a good trivia for everyone ever since the hand check rule was removed in 2004.

It was just Dirk Nowitzki whose position is forward/center who have won the season MVP when the rule was implemented.
After him are all guards and small forward which is only Lebron.

Steve Nash
Harden
Westbrook
Curry
Kobe

Why?
Hand check have been a great help before to keep up in front of shooters.
Before it was implemented MVP's are big men and only Jordan took a snatch out of it.

David Robinson
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Karl Malone

It is also said that there have been issues with NBA regarding profits since people are getting exhausted seeing just big men taking the throne.
They also want to see new shooters.

Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?


Of course NBA has evolved a lot but I'm not saying its getting soft. Perhaps coaches find ways to offset what the big Centers or Power Forwards we have seen in the past. Like D'Antoni's 7 second rule for instant, its a fast pace game and I don't think that Centers are the 'center' of that kind of plays anymore. Although as NBA fans, we really missed those days when Pistons used to dominate and intimated teams with the way they played.

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September 06, 2018, 09:55:58 PM
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Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?

Nah, NBA league is getting tough! You can only say the league has become soft because it became less physical than the 80's and 90's era. The players now has evolve into a more agile individuals that could score with a minimal body contact. Everyone in the league today could shoot a three or hit from the perimeter, big men doesnt need to be always on the low post, they could even dribble drive their way to the basket. Only those butthurt haters  would say the 90's era is better than today.
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Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?
No, they aren't soft. These new sets of MVP from big men are just good in playing. We can be the judge on how they are very well in playing and can be a candidate to get the MVP title for each season. I've noticed that change as well but the games changing as well and many players are discovering new strategies on how they can score inside the court.

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September 07, 2018, 02:11:15 AM
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Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?

Nah, NBA league is getting tough! You can only say the league has become soft because it became less physical than the 80's and 90's era. The players now has evolve into a more agile individuals that could score with a minimal body contact. Everyone in the league today could shoot a three or hit from the perimeter, big men doesnt need to be always on the low post, they could even dribble drive their way to the basket. Only those butthurt haters  would say the 90's era is better than today.


I agree. The era of 80's and 90's are all on the type of plays that is mostly connected to physical contacts. With the flashy dribble handles by GOD Shammgod, I guess that started the next great dribblers of NBA history.

With a lot of moves and dribbling skills being passed down, that kind of play is being there for a long time now. And with a lot of new skills being shown, next generations will tend to improve and be developed in these games. Expect that in the next generations, having a 100 points in a game will be common as having a 70 points in our current generation. For me, great shooters and dribblers will be getting in the court of NBA soon.
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September 07, 2018, 05:05:36 AM
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Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?

Nah, NBA league is getting tough! You can only say the league has become soft because it became less physical than the 80's and 90's era. The players now has evolve into a more agile individuals that could score with a minimal body contact. Everyone in the league today could shoot a three or hit from the perimeter, big men doesnt need to be always on the low post, they could even dribble drive their way to the basket. Only those butthurt haters  would say the 90's era is better than today.


I agree. The era of 80's and 90's are all on the type of plays that is mostly connected to physical contacts. With the flashy dribble handles by GOD Shammgod, I guess that started the next great dribblers of NBA history.

With a lot of moves and dribbling skills being passed down, that kind of play is being there for a long time now. And with a lot of new skills being shown, next generations will tend to improve and be developed in these games. Expect that in the next generations, having a 100 points in a game will be common as having a 70 points in our current generation. For me, great shooters and dribblers will be getting in the court of NBA soon.
Like curry of course but if the NBA will change their rules and they will allow more physical game then I don't think the outside shooting
will be popular as with pressure defense they won't have an easy look.

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September 07, 2018, 05:54:54 AM
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Any comments? Is the NBA league really getting soft?

Nah, NBA league is getting tough! You can only say the league has become soft because it became less physical than the 80's and 90's era. The players now has evolve into a more agile individuals that could score with a minimal body contact. Everyone in the league today could shoot a three or hit from the perimeter, big men doesnt need to be always on the low post, they could even dribble drive their way to the basket. Only those butthurt haters  would say the 90's era is better than today.


I agree. The era of 80's and 90's are all on the type of plays that is mostly connected to physical contacts. With the flashy dribble handles by GOD Shammgod, I guess that started the next great dribblers of NBA history.

With a lot of moves and dribbling skills being passed down, that kind of play is being there for a long time now. And with a lot of new skills being shown, next generations will tend to improve and be developed in these games. Expect that in the next generations, having a 100 points in a game will be common as having a 70 points in our current generation. For me, great shooters and dribblers will be getting in the court of NBA soon.
Like curry of course but if the NBA will change their rules and they will allow more physical game then I don't think the outside shooting
will be popular as with pressure defense they won't have an easy look.

I don't really think there are any plans to change rule towards more physicality. Are they?
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September 07, 2018, 07:59:39 AM
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..but if the NBA will change their rules and they will allow more physical game then I don't think the outside shooting
will be popular as with pressure defense they won't have an easy look.

Rules allowing more physical game? What do you mean here? Like refs should just call a foul if they saw a drip of blood or something? Just a joke lol. Or something that even lots of physical contacts , no calls should be made? Honestly I don't have an idea about that said "ruling" or does it even existed?



Lebron James and Ben Simmons Highlight Video of their teamed up recently.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnZNhF5AslA/?taken-by=cbrickley603

Can't imagined the blend of this veteran and young gun if they able to teamed up at Sixers.



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September 07, 2018, 08:32:10 AM
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..but if the NBA will change their rules and they will allow more physical game then I don't think the outside shooting
will be popular as with pressure defense they won't have an easy look.

Rules allowing more physical game? What do you mean here? Like refs should just call a foul if they saw a drip of blood or something? Just a joke lol. Or something that even lots of physical contacts , no calls should be made? Honestly I don't have an idea about that said "ruling" or does it even existed?



Lebron James and Ben Simmons Highlight Video of their teamed up recently.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnZNhF5AslA/?taken-by=cbrickley603

Can't imagined the blend of this veteran and young gun if they able to teamed up at Sixers.




Just saw it in other place! I love the moves of Ben and hope that he'll learn to shoot from mid-range and long-range in the future.

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September 07, 2018, 09:37:36 AM
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Lebron James and Ben Simmons Highlight Video of their teamed up recently.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnZNhF5AslA/?taken-by=cbrickley603

Can't imagined the blend of this veteran and young gun if they able to teamed up at Sixers.



I wish Lebron just go into Sixers instead of Lakers because he and Simmons are a good duo and they can dominate. Simmons is young in NBA but he can cope up with some of the veterans and he is an all around player. On the other hand, Lebron is also an all around same with Simmons.

Simmons need more experience but now he needs to practice perimeter and 3 pt. shots I think. If he can do it, he can be an all star in the next 2-3 years.

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September 07, 2018, 11:17:00 AM
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Lebron James and Ben Simmons Highlight Video of their teamed up recently.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnZNhF5AslA/?taken-by=cbrickley603

Can't imagined the blend of this veteran and young gun if they able to teamed up at Sixers.



I wish Lebron just go into Sixers instead of Lakers because he and Simmons are a good duo and they can dominate. Simmons is young in NBA but he can cope up with some of the veterans and he is an all around player. On the other hand, Lebron is also an all around same with Simmons.

Simmons need more experience but now he needs to practice perimeter and 3 pt. shots I think. If he can do it, he can be an all star in the next 2-3 years.

Definitely!
If I had to say one player from last 3 drafts to build a team on, I'd mention Ben.

BTW. Today is the release date of NBA 2k19 LeBron edition. Are there any players here?



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