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October 22, 2019, 08:03:52 PM
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Can you name shooters that became HOF? Is Ray Allen HOF?

Hmm, don't know how you missed that. Ray Allen is a HOF.

And just for a quick note, being included in HOF takes several years in the process. There will be a selection out of all candidates every year. It can't be achieved right before a player retires or a few seasons later, even how good they are. There are even players from the 1960's which just recently included in HOF.


A hall of famer is the only person that has great criteria for judging another player and MJ is that person. He said that Curry isn't yet a HOF, then we need to respect that.

Disagree.

Jordan or any of these HOF players is entitled to say whatever they want in terms of judging another player however it doesn't make sense to include the HOF discussion in a conversation where it shouldn't be. Saying MJ is the only person that has great criteria for judging a player looks like a BS to me. As I said above, that's Jordan's view so we have just to let it that way but we don't have to take that "generally".

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October 22, 2019, 08:28:05 PM
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Just spare that opinion of Michael Jordan, he is a legend and his standard is way different and far from us who are just watching the league. Although we can be aware of the technicalities and we're all watching their play and performances, there's something that the legend is wanting to see more about Curry but if it's just being an Hall of famer, well then still spare his opinion and credit the title to him. For someone who understands the circle inside the league, he knows what he's saying. It's not about jealousy or the achievement, he just might have higher standard.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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October 22, 2019, 09:14:59 PM
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Staples Center will surely be jampacked later as the NBA season will now begin.

I wonder who will receive the loudest cheer from LA fans between their home teams, Lakers or Clippers? Smiley
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October 22, 2019, 09:27:05 PM
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Just a Game 1 though. But still, surely they will show us a close match since key players of both teams are there.

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LAC@2.26 / LAL@1.68 (NitrogenSports)
Still nice if you vote for LAC. That's Kawhi Leonard and anything can happen in basketball. And besides, even without PG the lineup is so good.

I am not going to bet on them against the Lakers with PG.
maybe we can take that discussion in the NBA betting thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5091185.1440

Anyway, thoughts on this one?

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“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”
That's a challenge of Curry, he need to take his team now to the Championship to prove the doubters, he is already a GOAT IMO, and I think he can be a hall famer as he still has a lot of games to play and every season we see some improvement.

I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.

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October 22, 2019, 10:33:22 PM
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I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.
People are not appreciating curry despite him being the big reason why the Warriors are winning championship after championship.
Jordan if he compares curry to him, he might not appreciate him being a HOF but if he will compare to the current era, he will see that curry had change the NBA with his great 3 point shooting and even big man now are already adjusting themselves to learn how to shoot 3s.

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October 22, 2019, 11:42:49 PM
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I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.
People are not appreciating curry despite him being the big reason why the Warriors are winning championship after championship.
Jordan if he compares curry to him, he might not appreciate him being a HOF but if he will compare to the current era, he will see that curry had change the NBA with his great 3 point shooting and even big man now are already adjusting themselves to learn how to shoot 3s.

You got a point there, but there are more players before Curry that's making these threes so how does he became different from those players before him? I don't think making threes makes you HOF but only if you change the game. However I still believe will be HOF in the future.

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October 22, 2019, 11:48:38 PM
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October 22, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
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I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.
People are not appreciating curry despite him being the big reason why the Warriors are winning championship after championship.
Jordan if he compares curry to him, he might not appreciate him being a HOF but if he will compare to the current era, he will see that curry had change the NBA with his great 3 point shooting and even big man now are already adjusting themselves to learn how to shoot 3s.

You got a point there, but there are more players before Curry that's making these threes so how does he became different from those players before him? I don't think making threes makes you HOF but only if you change the game. However I still believe will be HOF in the future.

It was done before but curry made it looks easy and he is not only scoring in 3s, he is different because he also win MVP and won the NBA finals several times. I don't know if the ranking is accurate here but among the greatest, curry is rank number 3 which soon he might surpass his own coach record.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg3_pct_career.html
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2849517-ranking-the-nbas-all-time-greatest-3-point-shooters#slide0

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October 23, 2019, 01:13:50 AM
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I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.
People are not appreciating curry despite him being the big reason why the Warriors are winning championship after championship.
Jordan if he compares curry to him, he might not appreciate him being a HOF but if he will compare to the current era, he will see that curry had change the NBA with his great 3 point shooting and even big man now are already adjusting themselves to learn how to shoot 3s.

You got a point there, but there are more players before Curry that's making these threes so how does he became different from those players before him? I don't think making threes makes you HOF but only if you change the game. However I still believe will be HOF in the future.

Prior to Curry 3's, we haven't seen it used as a tool as much as it is being used today because of Curry. 3's are used only in the dying seconds of a game. But Curry changes everything specially how it easy for him and his accuracy. And now the game has evolved because of him, we are not seeing 3's more of a weapon. It even affected the centre position now, as big guys are also spotting 3's here and there. Just imagine Shaq pulling that one?

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Staples Center will surely be jampacked later as the NBA season will now begin.

I wonder who will receive the loudest cheer from LA fans between their home teams, Lakers or Clippers? Smiley

Clippers! However, they will be playing without Paul George who has an injured shoulder undergoing rehabilitation.

I hope the world series will be over before this game begins hehehe!

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October 23, 2019, 01:59:35 AM
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The legend has spoken and he's entitled with his opinion because he's been in the league and achieved a lot of things. I don't disagree nor agree with what he said, it's an opinion from him and we should respect that.
I agree, opinion is an opinion. I somewhat disagree since Curry have won 3 rings already since it also a great addition for him to enter HOF, but it's in a form of a superteam. Unlike Jordan, he's with Scottie.
But now, he's not yet part of the HOF and it's just an opinion from MJ so it's up to Curry if he will take this as a compliment or as an obstacle that should be taken seriously.

Nah, individual plays of MJ and Scottie are two different things. They can play altogether and they have the chemistry although individually and technically speaking, they are both great players and worth to be part of HOF. Whilst Curry, he's still young.
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Pascal Siakam looking good at the first game for the defending champ. The Raptors are gonna need performances like that from him to even have a chance at reaching the Finals again.

Meanwhile at Golden State, S. Kerr thinks Klay is unlikely to return this season.
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Pascal Siakam looking good at the first game for the defending champ. The Raptors are gonna need performances like that from him to even have a chance at reaching the Finals again.


Pascal Siakam is most likely to become a candidate to play for the all-star game this year. 18 boards and 34 pts is a spectacular season opener performance.
I've already seen his potential during the 2019 NBA finals against the Warriors, and I was thinking, he's gonna be a superstar in the making.
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LAC vs LAL are tied after 3 quarters. Danny Green was on fire for the LAL (5 for 5 beyond the arc)!



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Pascal Siakam is most likely to become a candidate to play for the all-star game this year. 18 boards and 34 pts is a spectacular season opener performance. I've already seen his potential during the 2019 NBA finals against the Warriors, and I was thinking, he's gonna be a superstar in the making.
If he can be consistent then I don't see any reason why he couldn't be in the All-Star selection.
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October 23, 2019, 05:18:22 AM
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Pascal Siakam looking good at the first game for the defending champ. The Raptors are gonna need performances like that from him to even have a chance at reaching the Finals again.

Meanwhile at Golden State, S. Kerr thinks Klay is unlikely to return this season.

Yep, Siakam showing that he will be the boss of the Raptors in years to come. But I must say that Pelicans didn't look bad at all, and it will look even better when Williamson comes back.


Clippers vs Lakers was also  a good game, this season will  be most fun to watch in years. Clippers showed why they are main contenders, and they were without their 2nd best player tonight. When Paul George comes back in a month or so, it will look even better.

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October 23, 2019, 05:22:23 AM
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The Lakers got beaten by the Clippers at the Staples center. I don't know why they keep Caldwell-pope in the game where he always throw away the ball. Also I don't see McGee in the whole second half of the game. I think it's the coach that's making this look ugly for the Lakers to play their debut in this season.

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October 23, 2019, 05:33:13 AM
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Clippers vs Lakers was also  a good game, this season will  be most fun to watch in years. Clippers showed why they are main contenders, and they were without their 2nd best player tonight. When Paul George comes back in a month or so, it will look even better.
It was an entertaining match. Defense was tough and it was like a playoff match. I particularly like Beverly's hustle towards the end of the game which made a lot of difference.




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Also I don't see McGee in the whole second half of the game. I think it's the coach that's making this look ugly for the Lakers to play their debut in this season.
It's not like that. The coach has no business making a player look ugly. It's his job to select a line up that will work against the Clipper and they did well in the third without McGee.
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October 23, 2019, 06:19:32 AM
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Clippers vs Lakers was also  a good game, this season will  be most fun to watch in years. Clippers showed why they are main contenders, and they were without their 2nd best player tonight. When Paul George comes back in a month or so, it will look even better.
It was an entertaining match. Defense was tough and it was like a playoff match. I particularly like Beverly's hustle towards the end of the game which made a lot of difference.




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Also I don't see McGee in the whole second half of the game. I think it's the coach that's making this look ugly for the Lakers to play their debut in this season.
It's not like that. The coach has no business making a player look ugly. It's his job to select a line up that will work against the Clipper and they did well in the third without McGee.

They did well in the third but they collapse on the fourth with Pope making most of the turn overs. It's better to have McGee cleaning for the boards and looseballs than having that KCP on the floor.

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October 23, 2019, 07:00:20 AM
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This would be the time that Lebron James will get again his MVP on the NBA year 2020 because as what I've seeing in the peformance of the Lakers they are very good in the offense of their team but their defenses is kind of weak or not strong enough. But I am still hoping that this time Lebron James will get his NBA champion and MVP this season. Probably he will carry again his team into the championship. Go Lakers!



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October 23, 2019, 07:40:33 AM
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The Lakers got beaten by the Clippers at the Staples center. I don't know why they keep Caldwell-pope in the game where he always throw away the ball. Also I don't see McGee in the whole second half of the game. I think it's the coach that's making this look ugly for the Lakers to play their debut in this season.
LeBron & AD doesn't light up much in the Second Half, especially after the third quarter. A pretty good debut for AD but even more so for Kawhi. AD scored 25 PTS, 10 REB, 5 AST & 2 BLK while Kawhi puts up 30 PTS, 6 REB, 5 AST & 2 STL. Overall, both teams played damn well. salute to the Clippers bench, they scored a total of 60 Points! Best bench in the NBA last season and perhaps this season as well. Relax, the two teams are not Full Power because Paul George and Kyle Kuzma still haven't played for their team. They will meet 2 more times in the Regular Season (hopefully also in the Playoffs). Clippers 1-0 Lakers.

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