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February 04, 2024, 03:13:48 PM
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Yeah for some reason Dallas totally fell apart after that great 1st quarter.
Milwaukee finished the 2nd on a 15:0 run and also had a 14:0 run in the 3rd, you can't show yourself in front of your home crowd like that.
Dallas never got Gianni under control, he could score at will so it seemed. Maxi Kleber is a decent defender in my opinion but against the greek freak he looked like a child that is playing with the big boys.
Still it was surprising that Dallas took such a big lead in the first place. They are still without Kyrie, that's a lot of points they are missing from him. Sure others step up but it's hard to replace him, especially against teams that have many offensive weapons. With Dallas it's easy to predict what's happening. It's Luka shootings, Luka drives or Luka makes the pass to an open shooter, that's pretty much it. With Kyrie they would have double this action.


This is the problem of the Dallas. They are always just compensating on lack of defense with the monster scoring of Doncic that usually always work against the team that will match their aggression.

It’s just bad matchup for them the Bucks since they have 2 scorer that is on fire that time that cover both inside and outside shooting. I believe Bucks can’t beat the Dallas without Lillard pestering them aside from Giannis unstoppable offense since Doncic can always cover the score being made by Giannis if they are just the only two toe to toe on scoring. This is why Kyrie Irving plays an important role before on Mavs success since he is the one helping Doncic to create some space and score when needed.

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First with Joel Embiid scoring 70 points, then Luka Doncic getting 73 points, and now Curry with 60 points as well. We are maybe entering a new era of basketball where ISO could be coming back in a different format where stars are taking most of the shots and just taking the load, not in an isolation matter of the scoring ways but more like field goal attempt ways.

The thing about these type of eras is that sometimes it looks like it will stay, like it is the new NBA thing, but then it doesn't pan out. Remember the years when Westbrook was doing TD season averages? Everyone said that became the norm, and plenty of other players had so many, became common and all, but looking at it now, it is not all that extra common, so maybe this one will fizzle out too.

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I’ve never been a big Trae Young fan, but in the last week he’s beaten LeBron James, Stephen Curry, & Kevin’s Durant. No matter the circumstances, that’s impressive. If he’d just shave his head and sign to a different team he wouldn’t be half bad.

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First with Joel Embiid scoring 70 points, then Luka Doncic getting 73 points, and now Curry with 60 points as well. We are maybe entering a new era of basketball where ISO could be coming back in a different format where stars are taking most of the shots and just taking the load, not in an isolation matter of the scoring ways but more like field goal attempt ways.

The thing about these type of eras is that sometimes it looks like it will stay, like it is the new NBA thing, but then it doesn't pan out. Remember the years when Westbrook was doing TD season averages? Everyone said that became the norm, and plenty of other players had so many, became common and all, but looking at it now, it is not all that extra common, so maybe this one will fizzle out too.

Defense is just terrible and doesn't exist anymore.  Points totals are getting shattered.  For those 3 players there are not any real good options after them.  Embid is just dominant and the game runs through him.  Same with Luka, with steph I think he is just getting fed up that his squad can't score without him.  The dynasty that was the Warriors is over.

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February 04, 2024, 09:33:41 PM
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While the trade rumors for Zach Lavine is there, he's going to undergo a surgery this coming week and he'll miss tons of games.
The recovery period could be for max of 6 months or possible to be more than that. If I'm the owner of the team, I'd definitely just trade him somewhere else and will take someone who's better than him. But will there be a team that's willing to take him now with that condition?

Zach will miss all the remaining games of the season. This means all strong teams that want more reinforcements this season won't accept him anymore. The Lakers are the favored team to get him but they will surely reject a Zach trade at this point.
No point of getting him if he' just going to destroy the bench and make a hole out of sitting.

Maybe some teams that are rebuilding are willing to accept but the problem is Zach's commitment.
That's right, a big problem for the team that are going to accept him this time. But if it's up as a business and there will be some locked in trades already, good for him and Bulls.

Zach said before that he wants to join a good team so it means not a rebuilding team.
Given with that, it's going to take to the next season for him to do that.


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While the trade rumors for Zach Lavine is there, he's going to undergo a surgery this coming week and he'll miss tons of games.
The recovery period could be for max of 6 months or possible to be more than that. If I'm the owner of the team, I'd definitely just trade him somewhere else and will take someone who's better than him. But will there be a team that's willing to take him now with that condition?

Bulls won't get anywhere close to what they are looking to get from him.  With him being hurt who is going to trade a better player for someone who might end up being shut down for the rest of the season.  The report says 6 or so weeks but you never know with these types of things how his body will respond.  His value went down significantly with that injury.

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While the trade rumors for Zach Lavine is there, he's going to undergo a surgery this coming week and he'll miss tons of games.
The recovery period could be for max of 6 months or possible to be more than that. If I'm the owner of the team, I'd definitely just trade him somewhere else and will take someone who's better than him. But will there be a team that's willing to take him now with that condition?

Bulls won't get anywhere close to what they are looking to get from him.  With him being hurt who is going to trade a better player for someone who might end up being shut down for the rest of the season. 
They're trying to dispose what they want to dump and that's true that they won't get anywhere close to the trade that they want.

The report says 6 or so weeks but you never know with these types of things how his body will respond.  His value went down significantly with that injury.
I agree with that.
It's just an estimation and who knows if the injury won't heal at that accurate timeframe that the doctors have given him. And it's certainly possible that it can go longer.


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That's sad.  Embarrassed

I do understand if no one had helped him. But just for the sake of what he has contributed to his former teams, they're a lot of it but still business is business I guess.

Maybe some exemption can be made just for him to be eligible let it do alone by the management.
We can't blame that no team would sign him since his numbers aren't really valuable for them.
Looking at his stats, (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/snellto01.html), nothing much in here, just a regular player that could and anyone that is young could contribute like this, maybe even with lower salary.
For the sake of his welfare and his family but then, yeah, it's all pure business and there's no need for any compassion just to take the eligiblity of the guy.  Undecided

According this website _ https://hoopshype.com/player/tony-snell/salary/

His total earnings in basketball is $53,175,288 ($64,432,174*).. if he was able to handle his finances well, he should not struggle after his NBA life.
That's a lot yes but I think that most of them are going to taxes, commissions of their agents, etc. And it's possible that he has saved a bit but then don't have managed to be financially well.

It's a common issue for many NBA players and athletes.

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Bulls won't get anywhere close to what they are looking to get from him.  With him being hurt who is going to trade a better player for someone who might end up being shut down for the rest of the season.  The report says 6 or so weeks but you never know with these types of things how his body will respond.  His value went down significantly with that injury.

Just like the others who were exploding and close to making their team a great contender in the league but then injuries got them and their skills and value has crashed dramatically because of it. now they no longer have any plan for him in terms of their progress in the team rather they are interested in trading him now. Man, they were unstoppable a few years back with DeRozan and Lonzo Ball, but because of their consistent injuries, their team didn't even make it to the semi-finals.

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Well there goes the Chicago Bulls chances of moving on from Zach Lavine and starting our rebuild.  Out for the rest of the season is a blow period, but it's no secret both parties want to go their own way...now, that's taken a major hit for this year and next.  The injury alone will cost us big time when we try and trade him next year. I was even seeing ideas of trading for Lebron floating around.. Sucks to be a bulls fan!!

Never heard that rumor about trading for LeBron James but right now LeBron James is still the cash cow for the Los Angeles Lakers which is why they can not get rid of LeBron James many want him to the team not because of getting the championship, but the money that LeBron will bring into the table for having him in the team will surely give the team boost in the money kid of thing the budget and salary for sure,


That hurt the Warriors. However, despite his 60 points performance, a lot of speculators aren't happy with it because he aren't sharing the ball well.

Curry had 38 attempts overall and made 23 of those. He is hot with 60% shooting percentage, but I understand why some are frustrated, maybe if he were able to win that game, his many attempts wouldn't matter. Klay Thompson was just lost in the picture, I think this guy should also be traded. IMO, he was already given enough time to get back to his old self but he is not the same anymore. 4-19 shooting? That's too bad, if he could have improve a bit, maybe they were able to win the game.

Despite his impressive 60% shooting percentage, the outcome of the game might have shifted the narrative. Klay Thompson's struggles, going 4-19, add to the team's challenges. The idea of trading Thompson is brought up, emphasizing the need for improvement.

In the dynamic world of basketball, opinions on player performances and team strategies vary. The Warriors' situation sparks discussions about balancing individual brilliance with team dynamics for a successful outcome.

Just like the others who were exploding and close to making their team a great contender in the league but then injuries got them and their skills and value has crashed dramatically because of it. now they no longer have any plan for him in terms of their progress in the team rather they are interested in trading him now. Man, they were unstoppable a few years back with DeRozan and Lonzo Ball, but because of their consistent injuries, their team didn't even make it to the semi-finals.

It's truly unfortunate to see players like DeRozan and Lonzo Ball, who once played pivotal roles in making their team formidable, face setbacks due to injuries. Injuries can indeed have a significant impact on a player's skills and overall value, altering the trajectory of their careers.

The team's focus shifting from future plans to considering trades reflects the challenges of managing player injuries in professional sports. It's a reminder of the unpredictable nature of the game and the resilience required to navigate such obstacles. Here's hoping for the best for these players and the team as they navigate this phase.
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Well there goes the Chicago Bulls chances of moving on from Zach Lavine and starting our rebuild.  Out for the rest of the season is a blow period, but it's no secret both parties want to go their own way...now, that's taken a major hit for this year and next.  The injury alone will cost us big time when we try and trade him next year. I was even seeing ideas of trading for Lebron floating around.. Sucks to be a bulls fan!!

Never heard that rumor about trading for LeBron James but right now LeBron James is still the cash cow for the Los Angeles Lakers which is why they can not get rid of LeBron James many want him to the team not because of getting the championship, but the money that LeBron will bring into the table for having him in the team will surely give the team boost in the money kid of thing the budget and salary for sure,


I mean there's always all sorts of rumors of course when it comes to trades and around the trade deadline, of course.  Lebron is a cash cow of course, but dude the La Lakers are one of the most historic franchises in the world of sports, and they make TONS of money regardless (sort of like the Chicago Cubs).  I'm not saying Lebron doesn't bring more money in ..of course he does..but at some point it's not just about the money, it's about long term success..and Lebron is nearing the end of his career.  The Lakers are not hooked to Lebron and if the right trade came along they'd do.  He'd do it too because the Lakers are not a championship caliber team.

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According this website _ https://hoopshype.com/player/tony-snell/salary/

His total earnings in basketball is $53,175,288 ($64,432,174*).. if he was able to handle his finances well, he should not struggle after his NBA life.
That's a lot yes but I think that most of them are going to taxes, commissions of their agents, etc. And it's possible that he has saved a bit but then don't have managed to be financially well.

It's a common issue for many NBA players and athletes.

Then I guess he has to adjust his lifestyle as he is not making this huge money anymore. Let's say he has to pay for the expsenses you've mentioned, say 50% was for that, then maybe he was able to keep $30m in his career in the NBA, that's still a lot of money if he was able to manage it right.

NBA is truly purely business, if you don't play your cards well, you'll end up not getting a team.
So back up plan is always necessary, like having a livelihood after basketball, easiest is to start a business since he was able to raise a capaital.

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According this website _ https://hoopshype.com/player/tony-snell/salary/

His total earnings in basketball is $53,175,288 ($64,432,174*).. if he was able to handle his finances well, he should not struggle after his NBA life.
That's a lot yes but I think that most of them are going to taxes, commissions of their agents, etc. And it's possible that he has saved a bit but then don't have managed to be financially well.

It's a common issue for many NBA players and athletes.

NBA is truly purely business, if you don't play your cards well, you'll end up not getting a team.
So back up plan is always necessary, like having a livelihood after basketball, easiest is to start a business since he was able to raise a capaital.

Well, there are only few athletes who has been thinking forward ahead of their career. Those who understand the business, the probability of the length of their career, and how to handle their money in general. Some former superstars became broke because they fail to manage their finances.
One of the most successful athlete or NBA player who are most likely not going to get broke is LeBron as he have built an empire already outside the league.
I understand, a guy like Tony Snell are just a mediocre player in the NBA, but their salary is more than enough to make another living outside his career.

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Well there goes the Chicago Bulls chances of moving on from Zach Lavine and starting our rebuild.  Out for the rest of the season is a blow period, but it's no secret both parties want to go their own way...now, that's taken a major hit for this year and next.  The injury alone will cost us big time when we try and trade him next year. I was even seeing ideas of trading for Lebron floating around.. Sucks to be a bulls fan!!

Never heard that rumor about trading for LeBron James but right now LeBron James is still the cash cow for the Los Angeles Lakers which is why they can not get rid of LeBron James many want him to the team not because of getting the championship, but the money that LeBron will bring into the table for having him in the team will surely give the team boost in the money kid of thing the budget and salary for sure,


Lebron James is 39 years old and his career is not long anymore. with high contracts and salaries it will be difficult for new clubs to accommodate him. because there are salary cap rules, aka there is a maximum budget limit for each club that can be spent. so if there is a club that wants Lebron James, they have to sell or throw away their star players so that the salary cap spot is there to accommodate Lebron James.

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The 23-point lead of the Toronto Raptors was deleted by the OKC Thunder and they won the game in double overtime. That was a fun game actually.
But like what @stadus said in the other thread.
OKC are not so good with weaker teams, so I'm expecting the Raptors to cover, or maybe upset the home team.
I believe this is real. I don't know why because the Thunder had been losing against weaker teams. The popular one was them being defeated by the Detroit Pistons. That was actually shocking.
It almost happened again today, but luckily, they had a good run in the 3rd quarter. The 2 overtimes though were so entertaining. The Raptors badly want the win but Chet Holmgren shuts them down with his three-pointers. He is growing and I love where it is going, surely he will be one of the promising players in the league as long as he keeps himself healthy.

Denver Nuggets also came from behind before they won the game. The Portland Trail Blazers prevented them from taking the lead for almost 3 quarters and it was damn frustrating if you are a Nuggets fan especially while they are playing at home.
The addition to the frustration, most of the top teams in the Western Conference won their respective games while the Nuggets seem to be having a hard time against a weaker team. Anyway, they still won it with Peyton Watson lifting up their energies on both ends of the floor.

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First with Joel Embiid scoring 70 points, then Luka Doncic getting 73 points, and now Curry with 60 points as well. We are maybe entering a new era of basketball where ISO could be coming back in a different format where stars are taking most of the shots and just taking the load, not in an isolation matter of the scoring ways but more like field goal attempt ways.

The thing about these type of eras is that sometimes it looks like it will stay, like it is the new NBA thing, but then it doesn't pan out. Remember the years when Westbrook was doing TD season averages? Everyone said that became the norm, and plenty of other players had so many, became common and all, but looking at it now, it is not all that extra common, so maybe this one will fizzle out too.

Defense is just terrible and doesn't exist anymore.  Points totals are getting shattered.  For those 3 players there are not any real good options after them.  Embid is just dominant and the game runs through him.  Same with Luka, with steph I think he is just getting fed up that his squad can't score without him.  The dynasty that was the Warriors is over.
Yeah I agree that it is because defense is not what it used to be. But also these players are also a different kind these days. In the old days of MJ, Kobe or idk even Olajuwan, these players could be somewhat defended. But Embiid and Luka is seriously something else. Embiid is just a machine, no way in sight for a way to stop him. And Luka is just strolling in through and make a slow lay up, so hard to defense. And the shooting is unbelievable these days. Generally, everyone is shooting incredibly. But I don't see it as a new era, it is just the natural part of the sport that progress was inevitable. And the training got so incredibly good too, it is only natural.

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February 05, 2024, 09:27:00 AM
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Never heard that rumor about trading for LeBron James but right now LeBron James is still the cash cow for the Los Angeles Lakers which is why they can not get rid of LeBron James many want him to the team not because of getting the championship, but the money that LeBron will bring into the table for having him in the team will surely give the team boost in the money kid of thing the budget and salary for sure,

Lebron James is 39 years old and his career is not long anymore. with high contracts and salaries it will be difficult for new clubs to accommodate him. because there are salary cap rules, aka there is a maximum budget limit for each club that can be spent. so if there is a club that wants Lebron James, they have to sell or throw away their star players so that the salary cap spot is there to accommodate Lebron James.
In terms of having someone like him to their roster before his retirement is like some sort of history. But what most teams like to have history is to win championships. Each team has their own franchise and best player that they can have and give the salary cap.
While it is not going to give Lebron that much benefit but AFAIK, this is just a rumor and won't happen.


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February 05, 2024, 10:21:20 AM
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Never heard that rumor about trading for LeBron James but right now LeBron James is still the cash cow for the Los Angeles Lakers which is why they can not get rid of LeBron James many want him to the team not because of getting the championship, but the money that LeBron will bring into the table for having him in the team will surely give the team boost in the money kid of thing the budget and salary for sure,

Lebron James is 39 years old and his career is not long anymore. with high contracts and salaries it will be difficult for new clubs to accommodate him. because there are salary cap rules, aka there is a maximum budget limit for each club that can be spent. so if there is a club that wants Lebron James, they have to sell or throw away their star players so that the salary cap spot is there to accommodate Lebron James.
In terms of having someone like him to their roster before his retirement is like some sort of history. But what most teams like to have history is to win championships. Each team has their own franchise and best player that they can have and give the salary cap.
While it is not going to give Lebron that much benefit but AFAIK, this is just a rumor and won't happen.

We are talking about Lebron here, yes he is 39 years old but we haven't seen this kind of players, who is entering his 20+ seasons and yet he can still play better than 90% of the current players that we have. Dirk retired because he can't contribute as he used to, he was 40 years old that time. But look at Lebron this season, although he could be injury prone, but he can still run fast, chase for a block, shot outside and dunk in transition.

I don't see him getting traded by the Lakers, him and AD for that matter. And again, as what we have speculated, he is just waiting for his son to turn pro so that they can play together at least in a season. Doesn't matter which team, as long as they can make history together, it will be something for Lebron before he decided to retire.
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February 05, 2024, 11:26:08 AM
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I’ve never been a big Trae Young fan, but in the last week he’s beaten LeBron James, Stephen Curry, & Kevin’s Durant. No matter the circumstances, that’s impressive. If he’d just shave his head and sign to a different team he wouldn’t be half bad.

And he has that Mamba mentality, least we forget. He was a big fan of Kobe and that's why we have seen his emotions when Kobe passed. He also played and endured shoulder injuries and be as bad as he can be in the last couple of games. There was also a time that him and the Knicks put up a good playoff series way before he can somewhat to help in in Murray. And Knicks fan hate him in that series.

It's that that he hasn't got a good team mate that can really compliment his stay of play. But he got Murray now, but his names has been in the background for a trade to the Lakers so who knows if he can be his team mate as we are nearing the trade deadline.

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February 05, 2024, 11:29:52 AM
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I’ve never been a big Trae Young fan, but in the last week he’s beaten LeBron James, Stephen Curry, & Kevin’s Durant. No matter the circumstances, that’s impressive. If he’d just shave his head and sign to a different team he wouldn’t be half bad.

And he has that Mamba mentality, least we forget. He was a big fan of Kobe and that's why we have seen his emotions when Kobe passed. He also played and endured shoulder injuries and be as bad as he can be in the last couple of games. There was also a time that him and the Knicks put up a good playoff series way before he can somewhat to help in in Murray. And Knicks fan hate him in that series.



He is an underrated player, his team beat Embiid and the 76ers in a playoff. I think they even reach the ECF that time but loss to the Celtics IIRC. Trae Young as long as he controls the ball, he is unstoppable and he makes his team work based on their system. Tomorrow, they'll match up with the Clippers who have a lot of defenders that could potentially give him some problem, but let's see if he could still make that 30+ points because he's been hot lately and his 3 point shooting is very impressive.

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It's that that he hasn't got a good team mate that can really compliment his stay of play. But he got Murray now, but his names has been in the background for a trade to the Lakers so who knows if he can be his team mate as we are nearing the trade deadline.

I don't know but I think Trae Young is okay even without Murray. I mean, before Murray came it, they are already playing like a playoff team, so it doesn't matter, maybe D'Lo will be traded for Murray, I'm sure it will still work fine.

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