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December 30, 2023, 02:51:22 PM
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The defending champion Denver Nuggets loss to the Oklahoma Thunder once again, it wasn't even a close game as OKC had dominated them in a 26 points victory. What happened here? I know    Aaron Gordon was out, but Murray and Jokic played, I don't understand what happened to the Nuggets, or just the OKC is so good right now?

BTW, SGA scored 40 points from a an efficient shooting (14-20), the consistency level of this guy is very impressive.

Should be at the top 3 of the MVP conversation now.

He can't be in the top 3 because he is just a scoring machine, unlike the top 3 now which are,
https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-dec-29-2023-edition

1- Embiid
2-Jokic
3- Antetokounmpo

These 3 averages a double double, and even Jokic almost average a triple double, just 1 assist needed for a triple double.
SGA could continue to play like that, maybe he'll win as the scoring champ, or most improved player this year.
I agree with the first point that SGA is great and playing splendidly but Embiid, Jokic and Giannis, also Doncic is whole another level. There has always been great players but the effect of these 4 is something else in my opinion. League is faster, tougher and much more scored but players also gotten much better. SGA maybe would have been in the mvp talk 10-20 or 30 years ago but this 4 is really something else. Although I remember the stats from Iverson, T-Mac or Kobe for example, none of them were this consistent with almost triple double numbers. In the modern nba at least.

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December 30, 2023, 03:04:09 PM
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He can't be in the top 3 because he is just a scoring machine, unlike the top 3 now which are,
https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-dec-29-2023-edition

1- Embiid
2-Jokic
3- Antetokounmpo

These 3 averages a double double, and even Jokic almost average a triple double, just 1 assist needed for a triple double.
SGA could continue to play like that, maybe he'll win as the scoring champ, or most improved player this year.

Fair enough, I get your point, very simple analysis but the truth.



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If you have ever followed the run of OKC, they're consistent. As you can see on the standings, they're currently ranked two on the West while Nuggets is 3rd.

They've got their key players and not just that they're key players but they're as well as the contributors of the team. SGA is getting the spotlight now and no contest that he's good.
Yeah of course, I know their ranking, but Nuggets are Nuggets, I mean they are the defending champion and they lose that big, and worst is it's on their home court where they are very dominant. I'm impresed with OKC, I think I should respect them and won't be betting against team, even at home or on the road. SGA the man, he should be the MVP of the month?


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On the other hand with Pistons, how long is the contract of Cunningham on them since he's their pick on the draft? 2 - 3 years?

He will stay for a while with the team as he is only RFA in 2025, so there's still 2 years (more or less).



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December 30, 2023, 03:12:14 PM
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A couple of good games on today. The 2-29 Detroit Pistons look to get win number 3 against the Toronto Raptors. Better matchups to actually watch are the Los Angeles Lakers against the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Golden State Warriors against the Dallas Mavericks. Luka has been on a tear lately so that should be a good one to see.

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December 30, 2023, 08:07:38 PM
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A close game from the Pistons wouldn't be unexpected. If you look at the results of the last four games, you'll notice that they've been losing by a few points. For example, the Pistons lost 6 points against the Hawks, 8 points against the Jazz, and they lost their last two games against the Nets by 11 and 6 points, respectively. I mean, sometimes it seems like the Pistons can break their losing streak, but at the same time, they don't get lucky or lack something else in the endings of games like this.

Actually, I was surprised by what is happening to the Detroit Pistons right now they are getting losses even though they might win the game last win for the Pistons was the win on their game against the Chicago Bulls game back on October 29, and since then they are currently in 29 losing streak if I am correct and I think the Detroit Piston is now on world record for so many losing streak and for sure that is the only good thing for them in getting a record in the NBA,

Celtics really have a very good squad depth on their roster, and that's why you guys like Luke Kornet, Sam Hauser and Pritchard come into the starting lineup or off the bench and make huge impact, and their latest Portugese center Neemsia Queta have been a solid addition to the team too.

If Celtics are able to reduce their extreme dependence on 3 pointer shots, and find other ways like driving into perimiter more and geting more point from the paint area, they'll be a team to be in the league this season and I'll tip them as my favorite for the championship this year, provided they are able to keep their core players fit and avoid long term injuries that could deter their ambitions.

Well, this is why other teams should try and take their new players for a test run that means they will initially risk potential losses, but in doing so their new players will be exposed to the game of the NBA and get experience within the team, just like what the other teams are doing, for sure the Boston Celtics are gaining great depth in their roster if this continues and for sure Celtics is now on the top in the East with 25 wins, rivaling the Timberwolves, in the West,

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December 30, 2023, 08:18:25 PM
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I think Boston will win against Toronto today.

Boston won without Tatum and Porziņģis. Jaylen Brown carried the team this time. Kornet was very effective, Holiday and White used ball more often but their field goal percentages were low. It could've been easier for Celtics if they shot with more accuracy.
Despite the loss, I liked how Raptors play though. Barnes and Siakam were okay. By the way there's a flash news for Raptors. Anunoby is going to Knicks. They'll get Barrett and Quickley so this may be a positive trade for them.

"Toronto is expected to send OG Anunoby to New York in exchange for RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley."
source: nba.com Breaking news

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December 30, 2023, 09:55:08 PM
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I think Boston will win against Toronto today.

Boston won without Tatum and Porziņģis. Jaylen Brown carried the team this time. Kornet was very effective, Holiday and White used ball more often but their field goal percentages were low. It could've been easier for Celtics if they shot with more accuracy.
Despite the loss, I liked how Raptors play though. Barnes and Siakam were okay. By the way there's a flash news for Raptors. Anunoby is going to Knicks. They'll get Barrett and Quickley so this may be a positive trade for them.

"Toronto is expected to send OG Anunoby to New York in exchange for RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley."
source: nba.com Breaking news

And I thought that Wiggins is going to be traded to the Raptors as well, but so far this is just rumor.

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Knicks receive:

OG Anunoby
Malachi Flynn
Precious Achiuwa
Raptors receive:

RJ Barrett
Immanuel Quickley
2024 second-round draft pick (via Detroit)

https://www.nba.com/news/raptors-knicks-trade-og-anunoby-rj-barrett

Perhaps it was a tough decision to let go of the two Knicks player here as they have been part of the resurging Knicks in the last couple of years.

I took a ML bet on them against the Pacers, before I saw this news,  Cry

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Alright knicks fan here and have had some time to think on this and I think I like it.  Hate seeing quickley go but this summer he is set to get paid and now it looks like the Knicks weren't going to pay him anyway.  RJ is/was promising but he is crazy inefficient and takes bad shots at the wrong time of the game. OG is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league and can now full that role for the Knicks.  They don't give up any first round capital.  What I expect to happen is quickley plays 30 minutes on Toronto and averages 18-20 a game.  Dude is a baller.  They are gonna love rj early on but will eventually frustrate people because of the before mentioned I'll timed shot attempts.  Either way knicks had to make a move in not multiple so I like it.

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Unfortunately the streak is over.  Cry



Now the Raptors will forever be the team that lost to a team that had a 28 game losing streak until they beat them.

I was hoping the streak can hit 30 but I also had a feeling the struggling Raptors might be the ones that will fall to them. Detroit was also just a 4 point underdog so Vegas also had high hope for this to happen.

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December 31, 2023, 02:20:34 AM
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Unfortunately the streak is over.  Cry
You're not happy?  Grin




Now the Raptors will forever be the team that lost to a team that had a 28 game losing streak until they beat them.

I was hoping the streak can hit 30 but I also had a feeling the struggling Raptors might be the ones that will fall to them. Detroit was also just a 4 point underdog so Vegas also had high hope for this to happen.


Seems like their performance on their previous game had help them to win here. They were close on beating the Celtics, that was helpful to increase their confidence on the game. Raptors also played without OG Anunoby, so that was big for them and Detroit took advantage on that. Regardless though, a win is a win, so I think I should be happy with their win. Hopefully they'll start losing again!  Tongue

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Finally! Pistons got the win after the worst losing streak in history and Raptors is the victim. Smiley
I had Cunningham 28+ points bet but Markkanen blew my parlay. He shot 0/7 behind the 3-pt line and could score only 12. Whatever, Pistons won tonight and that's the only important news.

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Finally! Pistons got the win after the worst losing streak in history and Raptors is the victim. Smiley
I had Cunningham 28+ points bet but Markkanen blew my parlay. He shot 0/7 behind the 3-pt line and could score only 12. Whatever, Pistons won tonight and that's the only important news.
That moment reminded me of something that happened years ago.
I just watched a video online regarding how the fans reacted after they saw their team ending their losing streak. It's like how the fans of Timberwolves reacted after they won that playoff game years ago where even PatBev even cried.

Sounds funny, but for a Pistons fan, this win is big for them. I mean just imagine how demoralizing is for a player to be on a team that's on a losing streak of more than 25+. Nevertheless, it's a win for the Pistons, and I don't expect too much for them this season because like always, they're tanking, but I hope this win that they got after 2 months of losing will create at least a bit of morale to the whole team.

As for the Raptors, they got at least RJ Barrett, and Immanuel Quickley in that trade with the Knicks, so let's see how these 2 players will fit to the system of the team. They're victims indeed  Cheesy Cheesy

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December 31, 2023, 04:22:58 AM
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Finally! Pistons got the win after the worst losing streak in history and Raptors is the victim. Smiley
I had Cunningham 28+ points bet but Markkanen blew my parlay. He shot 0/7 behind the 3-pt line and could score only 12. Whatever, Pistons won tonight and that's the only important news.
Yeah, not fake news anymore. Cheesy Finally! I was shocked considering it was the Raptors they were up against. The record was broken but they finally stopped it from swelling.

How about the game in Minnesota? Lebron James was furious about his three-point shot. There's just a single string of different behind the three-point line and yet the referee still called it a 2 pointer. That's sucks. My bet was -2.5 for the Timberwolves that's why I badly want it to go to overtime instead of a 2-pointer. Then, Anthony Edwards missed one shot. Crap. My bet was not covered.
But thumbs up to the Lakers for making an effort to almost tie that game on the road.

Golden State Warriors also lost in their home. Luka Doncic went nuts again recording 39 points and 10 assists. Klay Thompson with just 3 points in 26 minutes, again with the inconsistent Klay. It sucks to see one of the splash brothers having this kind of bad performance in his last 3 games. I thought he was back as he was performing well in 6 games before Christmas but after that was all bad games for him. Maybe he had too much fun during the Holidays.

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SGA also has defense compared to other players. Embiid and Jokic are not known for their defense, and that means SGA is better than them at one half of the game, the fact that they are ranked higher is mainly because NBA cares about offense more than they care about defense, not just fans but also the whole entire organization tries to minimize defense as much as possible by calling almost everything a foul, so that is why we are seeing SGA not getting the attention he deserves.

How many players in that list could be considered a great scorer with 30+ ppg and then still be in race for being a great defender at the same time? Giannis could be the only one, he defends well, but he is not a great perimeter defender, he is great at inside, and most teams play outside these days.

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December 31, 2023, 06:29:06 AM
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SGA also has defense compared to other players. Embiid and Jokic are not known for their defense, and that means SGA is better than them at one half of the game, the fact that they are ranked higher is mainly because NBA cares about offense more than they care about defense, not just fans but also the whole entire organization tries to minimize defense as much as possible by calling almost everything a foul, so that is why we are seeing SGA not getting the attention he deserves.

How many players in that list could be considered a great scorer with 30+ ppg and then still be in race for being a great defender at the same time? Giannis could be the only one, he defends well, but he is not a great perimeter defender, he is great at inside, and most teams play outside these days.

I'm not a Philly supporter but embid has made all defensive team 3 times in his career and his defensive ratings are great.  And jokic is just on another level than most other players.  Dude almost averages a triple double.  He is one of the best passers in the league and makes players on his team better.  He is almost unstoppable when he digs in.  Sga is phenomenal but not in the ranks of those 2 yet.

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December 31, 2023, 07:51:47 AM
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Finally! Pistons got the win after the worst losing streak in history and Raptors is the victim. Smiley
I had Cunningham 28+ points bet but Markkanen blew my parlay. He shot 0/7 behind the 3-pt line and could score only 12. Whatever, Pistons won tonight and that's the only important news.
I believe this was one of the surprises at the end of 2023 lol
Even so, it was a very competitive and fierce game... the statistics were similar between the Pistons and Raptors.
Cunningham once again played an important role in the Piston's victory.

Detroit's next game will be against the Rockets, can the Pistons win this game?

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Pistons really managed to do something that I didn't think would be possible in the modern basketball world, what was it, 28 loss in a row or something? That feels like you may literally end up winning one game with just luck for that matter. In the last 1 minute of the game, Raptors tried their best, and they tried to make a come back as much as they possibly could. There was like 3 minutes or so left and then they scored another 20 points in that 3-4 minutes of playing. The result was shocking, but also they would eventually win we knew that, Pistons couldn't just goa ll season without winning a single game, we knew that they would eventually win, Raptors happened to be the one.

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December 31, 2023, 10:48:33 AM
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Finally! Pistons got the win after the worst losing streak in history and Raptors is the victim. Smiley
I had Cunningham 28+ points bet but Markkanen blew my parlay. He shot 0/7 behind the 3-pt line and could score only 12. Whatever, Pistons won tonight and that's the only important news.
I believe this was one of the surprises at the end of 2023 lol
Even so, it was a very competitive and fierce game... the statistics were similar between the Pistons and Raptors.
Cunningham once again played an important role in the Piston's victory.
I'd say they were lucky to survive a 2 point victory only. Cunningham played well here, he was the best scorer but everyone was playing great basketball with 5 players more from this team scored a double digit. They are due for a win though, they just fell short against the Celtics, but it's a nice way to end the losing streak on their home court.

Detroit's next game will be against the Rockets, can the Pistons win this game?

Nope, I think they'll start losing again. Rockets need a win and I think they'll play harder this time beating the Pistons with a huge margin.
I hope they'll not break their losing streak this season with another one ( if there are more than 28 games remaining).

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December 31, 2023, 10:52:32 AM
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Their game against the Celtics was the point when I thought the losing streak could be ending soon. It's a different confidence boost when you know you almost defeated the top team so that carries on to the next game. Unlucky day for the Raptors' 4 out 5 starters since they all registered over 20 points. That would have been a better story if they won but it is what it is.

Some controversy on Lebron's "three" that was ruled as only two points. It's close but it seems the tip of his shoe touched the line.

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December 31, 2023, 11:04:52 AM
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Finally! Pistons got the win after the worst losing streak in history and Raptors is the victim. Smiley
I had Cunningham 28+ points bet but Markkanen blew my parlay. He shot 0/7 behind the 3-pt line and could score only 12. Whatever, Pistons won tonight and that's the only important news.
LOL hate to be a Pistons fan this year. Unreal losing streak they are on and it's not like the team is terrible. Pistons actually led at the end of every quarter, maybe this game is a momentum builder for them.


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December 31, 2023, 11:13:42 AM
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Finally! Pistons got the win after the worst losing streak in history and Raptors is the victim. Smiley
I had Cunningham 28+ points bet but Markkanen blew my parlay. He shot 0/7 behind the 3-pt line and could score only 12. Whatever, Pistons won tonight and that's the only important news.
LOL hate to be a Pistons fan this year. Unreal losing streak they are on and it's not like the team is terrible. Pistons actually led at the end of every quarter, maybe this game is a momentum builder for them.



Hard to tell though, but as long as they will remain healthy, they might not be able to create another losing streak. First win after a 28 losing streak, it's a big relief for them but that doesn't change anything a lot, they still need to prove that they already figure out how to win the game, not just this one but on the games to come.

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