[BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange [CLOSED]

[burnside]

Great improvements in the last weeks. You should post them here too and not only on Litcointalk.

What happened to the deposit status (0/3 confirmations...)?
Bids/Asks like 0.1000001 should be changed to 0.100001 and not to 0.1.

I'll check on the confirmations dialog.  Last I used it it was good, but I may have recently broken it.

The rounding is what is causing the odd behavior you're seeing.

On a bid of 0.1000001 I have to round down.  (I can't round up, or you'd be paying more than you agreed to.)

On an ask of 0.1000001 I have to round up.  (I can't round down, or you'd be selling for less than you agreed to.)

So you should see a bid get rounded to 0.1, and an ask get rounded to 0.100001.  I just confirmed this behavior by posting a BID of 0.1000001 on BTC-TRADING-PT (came out to 0.1) and by posting an ASK of 0.1000001 on S.DICE-PT. (came out to 0.100001)

It's crazy, the complexity of this stuff when you think about it. 

Cheers.

[MAC]

I recently secured a loan through BTCjam. After paying the loan off and trying to log back in to verify my funds have been transferred back into BTC-TC I keep getting an incorrect password error message. I have done the password reset feature multiple times but that too doesn't work. I then tried to write a support email but you first have to login to utilize that feature.

Please advice how I can get this password reset/corrected.

Thanks,
Mac

[freeAgent]

I recently secured a loan through BTCjam. After paying the loan off and trying to log back in to verify my funds have been transferred back into BTC-TC I keep getting an incorrect password error message. I have done the password reset feature multiple times but that too doesn't work. I then tried to write a support email but you first have to login to utilize that feature.

Please advice how I can get this password reset/corrected.

Thanks,
Mac

I am having the same problem.  I seem to be completely locked out of my account even though I know I have the right credentials.  I did a password reset, which went to my correct email address, and I changed my password yet I still cannot log in.

[EskimoBob]

I recently secured a loan through BTCjam. After paying the loan off and trying to log back in to verify my funds have been transferred back into BTC-TC I keep getting an incorrect password error message. I have done the password reset feature multiple times but that too doesn't work. I then tried to write a support email but you first have to login to utilize that feature.

Please advice how I can get this password reset/corrected.

Thanks,
Mac

I am having the same problem.  I seem to be completely locked out of my account even though I know I have the right credentials.  I did a password reset, which went to my correct email address, and I changed my password yet I still cannot log in.

Garbage cookies or cache? 

[burnside]

I recently secured a loan through BTCjam. After paying the loan off and trying to log back in to verify my funds have been transferred back into BTC-TC I keep getting an incorrect password error message. I have done the password reset feature multiple times but that too doesn't work. I then tried to write a support email but you first have to login to utilize that feature.

Please advice how I can get this password reset/corrected.

Thanks,
Mac

I am having the same problem.  I seem to be completely locked out of my account even though I know I have the right credentials.  I did a password reset, which went to my correct email address, and I changed my password yet I still cannot log in.

I think I may know what happened.  Can you guys PM me your login names?  There was a change made in dev a few weeks ago that made the logins case sensitive. (as they were intended to be from the beginning, but the sql query was executing case insensitive)  I inadvertently rolled out that change with another update I made last night to improve some of the backend logging granularity.  I was planning to announce the change before it went live.    

If you can PM me your login name I can look it up, figure out what the case is on it, and relay it back, -or-, we can change it to whatever else you might like.

Cheers.

[burnside]

Hi all.

I went through the logs, made a list of everyone that has had issues, grabbed their email addresses, and sent the following to everyone who has had login issues:

Hi all,

    I'm emailing you because I see in the logs that you had a hard time logging in in the last day or two.

    A change went out yesterday that was a bit premature.  I was planning on announcing and warning everyone in advance that the logins were going to become case sensitive.  They should have been from the beginning.  I had what I thought was a case-sensitive db query that turned out to be case-insensitive and I repaired it in dev, then inadvertently rolled it out last night with another change in the login system that only was supposed to affect logging.

    If you do not remember the case of your original account creation, please reply to this email with your login name and I'll reply back with the correct case.

    Really sorry about the trouble.

Cheers

[freeAgent]

Yup, it was case sensitivity.  I'm in now.  Thanks for the quick response!

[GoldenWings91]

It would be great for us poorer folk if fractional drips where available. The sooner I get my coins working for the next dividend the better.

[MAC]

Thanks for fixing the login so quickly.

[EskimoBob]

Really pretty please, can you please fix the charts now. That 52w stuff they have in those real exchanges, can wait a bit longer.

I have an idea. Sign up with some online stock trading outfit, who has a good trading/reporting interface. You will get lot's of good ideas from there.

[burnside]

Really pretty please, can you please fix the charts now. That 52w stuff they have in those real exchanges, can wait a bit longer.

I have an idea. Sign up with some online stock trading outfit, who has a good trading/reporting interface. You will get lot's of good ideas from there.

Charts are definitely on my mental list of improvements.  I had really wanted to get a license to amstocks: http://www.amcharts.com/stock-chart/

Look familiar?    I don't want to look like I'm cloning stuff, but amcharts is what I've used on previous projects. 

Cheers.

[EskimoBob]

Those look good. Maybe you can work out some type of "promotion" deal with those guys?
There are plenty of open source and free chart engines around too.
Cheers

[creativex]

Perhaps you could contact XCHRIX over at ltc-charts for assistance.

[EskimoBob]

I started to enter trades to gnucash to experiment with.
What started to bother me was that I had to use Portfolio > Transactions and Wallet > Withdrawal pages to get this done.

So, here is another change request:

Portfolio > My Trades

Code:

Date                 Symbol    Action   Quantity    Price     Total
2013-03-06 14:57:48     ART       buy       1000   Ł 0.41   Ł 410.0

can this be upgraded to

Code:

Date                 | Symbol |  Action | Quantity |  Price | Commission |  Total 
2013-03-06 14:57:48  |   ART  |    buy  |    1000  |  0.41  |    0.8200  | 409.18

and btw, if you look at the Withdrawal History page, the date is at the wrong side of the table adn first cell has a split row so it's real PITA to copy/paste this to spread sheet. Yes I know, API has it in better format

Code:

Timestamp | Description | Transaction ID | Amount  | 

BTW, API has also one minor problem Action and Expense category are combined to one filed. 

Have you thought about using OFX format for exporting transactions? Kmymoney, GnuCash, Quicken etc can all eat this format with no problems.

[superbit]

Just a heads up looks like Mpex was hacked as it's redirecting too.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/

Hope you are secure.

[burnside]

For me, features are secondary.
The quality of companies / ventures listed is what counts.
And bitfunder seems to have a few more better ventures than btct at the moment.

I don't think both bitfunder and btct will be equally big. One of them will take a big lead. Because better companies attract better investors that attract better companies that attract better investors that attract.... A slight lead will build up a long way.

I hope I'm wrong, but I reckon the exchange that does its best in attracting awesome companies in the next 6 months will gain a big unassailable lead.

Seemed like a topic better fit to this thread.

I am absolutely not the person to be looking at this objectively.  I have a definite skew to my perspective.  Please keep that in mind as you read this, I'm sure it shows somewhat. 

My take though is that we are targeting different "markets".

Our market is virtual crypto organizations that don't mind working with a Belize company and don't mind our terms of service that everything is virtual and we're all playing a great big edu-tainment game.  (notably, this is also the MPEx perspective AFAIK.)  As far as I'm concerned, bitcoin is the same thing as linden dollars, WoW gold, Everquest platinum, etc, all of which freely trade on eBay and craigslist.

Bitfunder I feel is marketing itself like it's a real exchange.  But they're in the USA, and what they're doing is very clearly illegal in that jurisdiction.  (it's black and white.)  Read up the definition of a security in the US.  Profit sharing agreements are securities.  It's illegal to run the exchange in the USA without registering it.  It's illegal to invest in the securities in the USA without registering them.  It's illegal to market the securities to an investor in the USA from outside the USA without following strict rules.  Consult a lawyer.  It's scary what happens if you get this wrong.  Hopefully the recent big announcements that were hinted at involve moving it offshore or something.

In terms of the actual companies on the exchanges.  I'm not going to critique on a ticker by ticker basis.  We both have our jewels and our turds I suspect.  Hopefully on btct.co with the community involvement it's a little easier to determine which is which. 

Cheers.

[superbit]

For me, features are secondary.
The quality of companies / ventures listed is what counts.
And bitfunder seems to have a few more better ventures than btct at the moment.

I don't think both bitfunder and btct will be equally big. One of them will take a big lead. Because better companies attract better investors that attract better companies that attract better investors that attract.... A slight lead will build up a long way.

I hope I'm wrong, but I reckon the exchange that does its best in attracting awesome companies in the next 6 months will gain a big unassailable lead.

Seemed like a topic better fit to this thread.

I am absolutely not the person to be looking at this objectively.  I have a definite skew to my perspective.  Please keep that in mind as you read this, I'm sure it shows somewhat. 

My take though is that we are targeting different "markets".

Our market is virtual crypto organizations that don't mind working with a Belize company and don't mind our terms of service that everything is virtual and we're all playing a great big edu-tainment game.  (notably, this is also the MPEx perspective AFAIK.)  As far as I'm concerned, bitcoin is the same thing as linden dollars, WoW gold, Everquest platinum, etc, all of which freely trade on eBay and craigslist.

Bitfunder I feel is marketing itself like it's a real exchange.  But they're in the USA, and what they're doing is very clearly illegal in that jurisdiction.  (it's black and white.)  Read up the definition of a security in the US.  Profit sharing agreements are securities.  It's illegal to run the exchange in the USA without registering it.  It's illegal to invest in the securities in the USA without registering them.  It's illegal to market the securities to an investor in the USA from outside the USA without following strict rules.  Consult a lawyer.  It's scary what happens if you get this wrong.  Hopefully the recent big announcements that were hinted at involve moving it offshore or something.

In terms of the actual companies on the exchanges.  I'm not going to critique on a ticker by ticker basis.  We both have our jewels and our turds I suspect.  Hopefully on btct.co with the community involvement it's a little easier to determine which is which. 

Cheers.

Just to add to this I've had my lawyer look into these exchanges and how they are being done with bitcoin.  His opinion is that bitfunder is playing a dangerous game.

[btcash]

Perhaps you could contact XCHRIX over at ltc-charts for assistance.

+1 I love his charts.

[burnside]

Just a heads up looks like Mpex was hacked as it's redirecting too.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/

Hope you are secure.

This is a good opportunity for a little education I suspect.

If our DNS is compromised, which is entirely possible, we do not operate it:  (The registrar does.)

    - A potential hacker could put up a clone of our login page and collect your logins and passwords.
    - Then the hacker could set his own /etc/hosts file and log into the real site with those logins and passwords.
    - Then the hacker trades all your stuff off for pennies on the dollar and withdraws all the coins and walks away.

The only protection from this is to use 2-Factor authentication.  If you don't already have a Yubikey or a mobile phone with Google Authenticator, NOW is the time to set it up.  Do not put it off.  Do it now.

[superbit]

Just a heads up looks like Mpex was hacked as it's redirecting too.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/

Hope you are secure.

This is a good opportunity for a little education I suspect.

If our DNS is compromised, which is entirely possible, we do not operate it:  (The registrar does.)

    - A potential hacker could put up a clone of our login page and collect your logins and passwords.
    - Then the hacker could set his own /etc/hosts file and log into the real site with those logins and passwords.
    - Then the hacker trades all your stuff off for pennies on the dollar and withdraws all the coins and walks away.

The only protection from this is to use 2-Factor authentication.  If you don't already have a Yubikey or a mobile phone with Google Authenticator, NOW is the time to set it up.  Do not put it off.  Do it now.

OK I have gone ahead and setup Google Authenticator on my google account, and on your site.  I know that I could print off some one time use codes for my google account in case I ever lose my phone, don't have it on me etc...

Will these same codes work on your site?  What do I do if my phone gets stolen?