IOTA Crowdsale

[ozboom]

There is no official iota being traded over at Nxt that we (IOTA team) can vouch for. Any trading of this software is 100% your own responsibility.

Oh OK, thanks for the info Token, I'll keep reading and just wait then 

[Tobo]

Me. But it's unrelated to Iota, a modified SHA-3 could be used instead.

Was SaM primarily invented for Jinn?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Was SaM primarily invented for Jinn?

For trinary.

[IOTUSA]

Was SaM primarily invented for Jinn?

For trinary.

How long til the GUI 'wallet' release? Days?

[Come-from-Beyond]

How long til the GUI 'wallet' release? Days?

I've heard "days".

[rtrtcrypto]

How long til the GUI 'wallet' release? Days?

I've heard "days".

Quick question, as I just secured my keys in a bank vault. If I just want to hold long-term (years), I don't have to take any actions in the near future correct? The IOTA are safe and secure long term in the account I created for the genesis block - correct?

Thanks,

[dulinxu]

Me. But it's unrelated to Iota, a modified SHA-3 could be used instead.

Was SaM primarily invented for Jinn?

what is the SaM??

[Come-from-Beyond]

Quick question, as I just secured my keys in a bank vault. If I just want to hold long-term (years), I don't have to take any actions in the near future correct? The IOTA are safe and secure long term in the account I created for the genesis block - correct?

Thanks,

Yes, if there is no a flaw in security. Iota security hasn't been peer-reviewed yet.

[Come-from-Beyond]

what is the SaM??

A hashing algorithm using Split-and-Merge method - https://github.com/JinnLabs/SaM/blob/master/src/SaM.java.

[rtrtcrypto]

Ok,

I take it in case of a major security issue we might need to move coins to a new address that would be created using some upgraded algo... I will keep my keys close then.

Quick question, as I just secured my keys in a bank vault. If I just want to hold long-term (years), I don't have to take any actions in the near future correct? The IOTA are safe and secure long term in the account I created for the genesis block - correct?

Thanks,

Yes, if there is no a flaw in security. Iota security hasn't been peer-reviewed yet.

[tyz]

Is it planned to review IOTA by someone who has the skills and knowledge to do this? Something from  the community maybe?

Quick question, as I just secured my keys in a bank vault. If I just want to hold long-term (years), I don't have to take any actions in the near future correct? The IOTA are safe and secure long term in the account I created for the genesis block - correct?

Thanks,

Yes, if there is no a flaw in security. Iota security hasn't been peer-reviewed yet.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Is it planned to review IOTA by someone who has the skills and knowledge to do this? Something from  the community maybe?

Yes.

[Voice-Of-Reason]

Just checked the last couple of pages, the website, and the front page of this thread, but the information available seems rather thin.
Other than the whitepaper, is there any reading material of substance available for one to get familiar with IOTA? Perhaps a git repository, or a beta client, or... something? Thanks!

[AltcoinScamfinder]

Just checked the last couple of pages, the website, and the front page of this thread, but the information available seems rather thin.
Other than the whitepaper, is there any reading material of substance available for one to get familiar with IOTA? Perhaps a git repository, or a beta client, or... something? Thanks!

Ask for an invite to Ryver from the IOTA rep. lots going on.

[msin]

Just checked the last couple of pages, the website, and the front page of this thread, but the information available seems rather thin.
Other than the whitepaper, is there any reading material of substance available for one to get familiar with IOTA? Perhaps a git repository, or a beta client, or... something? Thanks!

Ask for an invite to Ryver from the IOTA rep. lots going on.

Not everyone wants to join Ryver though, so it's important that all updates and information are posted here as well.

[iotatoken]

Just checked the last couple of pages, the website, and the front page of this thread, but the information available seems rather thin.
Other than the whitepaper, is there any reading material of substance available for one to get familiar with IOTA? Perhaps a git repository, or a beta client, or... something? Thanks!

Ask for an invite to Ryver from the IOTA rep. lots going on.

Not everyone wants to join Ryver though, so it's important that all updates and information are posted here as well.

For sure. But to be honest, those that do not even care to enter a chat are most likely not the ones that have true intention for their IOTA tokens. Rest assured I am sure the community will continue to keep the threads alive here on BTT, that is always the case. We are setting up a stand-alone forum for IOTA and will continue to use Ryver for chat. Ryver UX is not as good as Slack, but Slack is too expensive for thousands of users, so if UX of Ryver does not improve we'll move over to RocketChat.

Right now people should rather focus on meet-ups, events and use-cases instead of relying on us doing everything.

[msin]

For sure. But to be honest, those that do not even care to enter a chat are most likely not the ones that have true intention for their IOTA tokens. Rest assured I am sure the community will continue to keep the threads alive here on BTT, that is always the case. We are setting up a stand-alone forum for IOTA and will continue to use Ryver for chat. Ryver UX is not as good as Slack, but Slack is too expensive for thousands of users, so if UX of Ryver does not improve we'll move over to RocketChat.

Right now people should rather focus on meet-ups, events and use-cases instead of relying on us doing everything.

I wouldn't exclude those that don't want to enter Ryver. Some just don't have the time to navigate another forum or chat room. And I certainly wouldn't qualify their "true intentions", anyone who invested BTC has enough intentions to deserve any info they request. You guys raised 1.3k btc, so you shouldn't rely on anyone to do anything until you've released a stable client.

[iotatoken]

For sure. But to be honest, those that do not even care to enter a chat are most likely not the ones that have true intention for their IOTA tokens. Rest assured I am sure the community will continue to keep the threads alive here on BTT, that is always the case. We are setting up a stand-alone forum for IOTA and will continue to use Ryver for chat. Ryver UX is not as good as Slack, but Slack is too expensive for thousands of users, so if UX of Ryver does not improve we'll move over to RocketChat.

Right now people should rather focus on meet-ups, events and use-cases instead of relying on us doing everything.

I wouldn't exclude those that don't want to enter Ryver. Some just don't have the time to navigate another forum or chat room. And I certainly wouldn't qualify their "true intentions", anyone who invested BTC has enough intentions to deserve any info they request. You guys raised 1.3k btc, so you shouldn't rely on anyone to do anything until you've released a stable client.

False. We got 0 investors. We got buyers of software, software that they should focus on making useful (for themselves). This is why we are actually spending OUR time VOLUNTARILY to setup the community, get companies on board, get marketing done, get events setup, which got nothing to do with software. It got to do with us wanting (by our own volition) to grow the ecosystem, which we have NO obligation to do.

The backend client has been done and we're actively doing testing, the community wanted a glossy front-end so we decided to give it one, which caused delay, but in this time we did more testing and optimized IOTA further, so nothing has really been lost.

But don't think for a second that we should just pretend the emperor hath new clothes and that those who spend more time speculating on the value of the software post-launch rather than actually doing anything to achieve this, somehow got 'true intentions' in regards to growing IOTA as an ecosystem. This is why I have been so blunt towards them, to not have a scenario where we got tons of people complaining about things they got no right to complain about.

So yes, like we said before we even announced the crowdsale: the community has to do their own work to grow the eocsystem, we make the software. All these extra relationships, companies etc. is us being community members, not something we owe anyone.

[canth]

False. We got 0 investors. We got buyers of software, software that they should focus on making useful (for themselves). This is why we are actually spending OUR time VOLUNTARILY to setup the community, get companies on board, get marketing done, get events setup, which got nothing to do with software. It got to do with us wanting (by our own volition) to grow the ecosystem, which we have NO obligation to do.

The backend client has been done and we're actively doing testing, the community wanted a glossy front-end so we decided to give it one, which caused delay, but in this time we did more testing and optimized IOTA further, so nothing has really been lost.

But don't think for a second that we should just pretend the emperor hath new clothes and that those who spend more time speculating on the value of the software post-launch rather than actually doing anything to achieve this, somehow got 'true intentions' in regards to growing IOTA as an ecosystem. This is why I have been so blunt towards them, to not have a scenario where we got tons of people complaining about things they got no right to complain about.

So yes, like we said before we even announced the crowdsale: the community has to do their own work to grow the eocsystem, we make the software. All these extra relationships, companies etc. is us being community members, not something we owe anyone.

Totally reasonable and good to make that clear right now. There are plenty of entities interested in making the extra relationships work - you don't need to do all the heavy lifting yourself.

[iotatoken]

False. We got 0 investors. We got buyers of software, software that they should focus on making useful (for themselves). This is why we are actually spending OUR time VOLUNTARILY to setup the community, get companies on board, get marketing done, get events setup, which got nothing to do with software. It got to do with us wanting (by our own volition) to grow the ecosystem, which we have NO obligation to do.

The backend client has been done and we're actively doing testing, the community wanted a glossy front-end so we decided to give it one, which caused delay, but in this time we did more testing and optimized IOTA further, so nothing has really been lost.

But don't think for a second that we should just pretend the emperor hath new clothes and that those who spend more time speculating on the value of the software post-launch rather than actually doing anything to achieve this, somehow got 'true intentions' in regards to growing IOTA as an ecosystem. This is why I have been so blunt towards them, to not have a scenario where we got tons of people complaining about things they got no right to complain about.

So yes, like we said before we even announced the crowdsale: the community has to do their own work to grow the eocsystem, we make the software. All these extra relationships, companies etc. is us being community members, not something we owe anyone.

Totally reasonable and good to make that clear right now. There are plenty of entities interested in making the extra relationships work - you don't need to do all the heavy lifting yourself.

Indeed and I got A LOT of really big and exciting news that will be made available quite soon, but I don't want the commuity to become dependent on me, CfB or just another handful of people. None of us have any plans of suddenly ceasing to continue to grow IOTA and the ecosystem, but it needs to be a community effort. Everyone needs to understand that the more they put in, the more they get out.